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Enjoy! :)
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Cant wait for this fight. I watching this over the Mr. O.
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good fight, better than anything pac has done in the last 2 yrs or so. fmw won't slug like berto, but ortiz will keep the pressure on. fmw 8-4 or 7-5. it could be a split, based on ortiz pushing the fight and fmw not producing power punches to keep him at bay.
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Should be an easy win for Mayweather; Ortiz will barely hit him the entire fight.
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Should be an easy win for Mayweather; Ortiz will barely hit him the entire fight.
I agree .
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I wonder why HBO would schedule this fight the same night as the Mr. Olympia. Won't this kill their ratings?
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Mayweather cant hang with PacMan .
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I agree .
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mosley landed 2 shots which turned his legs to spaghetti, and oscar kept him on the ropes for short periods. ortiz will lose but he'll make fmw fight, because fmw won't put any mustand on his shots like berto. 7-5, 8-4 or split.
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mosley landed 2 shots which turned his legs to spaghetti, and oscar kept him on the ropes for short periods. ortiz will lose but he'll make fmw fight, because fmw won't put any mustand on his shots like berto. 7-5, 8-4 or split.
We'll see.
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who the hell is ortiz?
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Was hyped as the next big thing, but so far has not lived up to expectations. Quit one fight because he didn't want to take the punishment.
who the hell is ortiz?
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ok i watched the prefight hype vids.
one thing i can say, is mayweather has beaten everyone he has faced. he has a big mouth, and allot dont like that, including me, but i just dont see him losing to this mexican.
if i were in vegas this weekend, id put 1k on mayweather.
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i think he's unbeatable,,,, if he wants he can close shop and win on points, and no one could beat him in defense mode
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Ortiz was hand picked for money Mayweather. Don't believe the hype. Ortiz is easy to hit and way to slow for Mayweather.
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5 kids. Facing a possible 34 years in prison. This fight is a turning point in his career. Win or loose Ortiz is gonna beat him up. Mayweathers future isn't bright. Congradulations with all of his success. But he's doomed.
http://www.missjackson.com/ (http://www.missjackson.com/)
who is that chick? looks very tasty.
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mosley landed 2 shots which turned his legs to spaghetti, and oscar kept him on the ropes for short periods. ortiz will lose but he'll make fmw fight, because fmw won't put any mustand on his shots like berto. 7-5, 8-4 or split.
Yeah but an even a shot version of Mosley has more power in his right hand than Ortiz does. Plus I don't think Ortiz has the handspeed to bother Floyd. After Floyd got hit with those rights from Mosley, he made the necessary adjustments and dominated the rest of the fight. Victor's only chance will probably be to land a big shot early in the fight.
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i think he's unbeatable,,,, if he wants he can close shop and win on points, and no one could beat him in defense mode
Nobody is unbeatable but I think the only two guys out there with a chance right now are Pacquiao and Sergio Martinez. However, we'll be lucky to ever see Floyd fight Manny, and I don't think there is any chance he will move up to 154 to fight Martinez. After this, he'll probably fight Khan at 147.
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Yeah but an even a shot version of Mosley has more power in his right hand than Ortiz does. Plus I don't think Ortiz has the handspeed to bother Floyd. After Floyd got hit with those rights from Mosley, he made the necessary adjustments and dominated the rest of the fight. Victor's only chance will probably be to land a big shot early in the fight.
no 147 or 154 will fight martinez because he carries speed and legit 160 knockout power. it's suicide, so you can count out fmw and pac. who said berto vs fmw? if berto had got past ortiz, fmw would have skipped that fight. too much speed and enough power in his right to put ortiz down twice. yeah, fmw outpoints him but berto would have been loading up those rights and upcuts. berto = zab judah minus the in fight metal breakdown. of course fmw got the right fight vs ortiz aka cotto II, but ortiz has a good enough chin where he can turn the fight to a younger oscar de la hoya vs fmw. that's enough to steal 4-5 rounds on work and aggression alone. he'll make it interesting. fmw is still one up on manny who is fighting no one but fmw left overs like oscar, hatton, mosley, and now marquez (FMW ALREADY PROVED THIS GUY CAN'T FIGHT AT 143-147). manny should have taken the berto fight since he lost. no, roach and arum weren't having that with their money bag because if for some reason berto turned over one of those rights he hit ortiz with, he would put manny down. manny is small and not defensive, so if he got up, berto would give him an ass wiping.
i give fmw half-ass credit for this fight.
amir didn't show shit against judah. fmw would take him apart. BIG question mark with his chin, and fmw would counter his aggression pretty easy.
manny isn't fighting anyone as usual. FUCK HIM.
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Nobody is unbeatable but I think the only two guys out there with a chance right now are Pacquiao and Sergio Martinez. However, we'll be lucky to ever see Floyd fight Manny, and I don't think there is any chance he will move up to 154 to fight Martinez. After this, he'll probably fight Khan at 147.
sergio is too big,,, mayweather will never ever step into a ring with him, and i dont blame him!, saying floyd isnt really a legit welter to begin with
pac man, almost an even fight, i love manny, probly one of my fave fighters, he'd stand toe to toe with anyone, just think floyd is too smart for him
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I believe there's an interview out there where SM claims he would be willing to cut a lot of weight to fight those guys to prove he's #1 p4p, not sure if he meant 147 or like a 150 catch weight.
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I believe there's an interview out there where SM claims he would be willing to cut a lot of weight to fight those guys to prove he's #1 p4p, not sure if he meant 147 or like a 150 catch weight.
152, something along the lines of Marg vs Pac. they still won't touch him.
Phil Williams won't get a fight.
Bert won't get a fight even with 1 lost.
Judah lost to Amir. I wouldnt be surprise if Roach takes that fight for manny next if he thinks judah is completely done and safe.
Brandy or Alexander moving up is a cream puff fight for manny.
Plenty of good name cans out there vs legit fights.
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he wanted to fight pac man, but pac didnt want to fight because of being tested, wtf are you talking about? floyd hasnt ducked anyone. he asked pac man to fight, and he backed out. pretty simple.
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I believe there's an interview out there where SM claims he would be willing to cut a lot of weight to fight those guys to prove he's #1 p4p, not sure if he meant 147 or like a 150 catch weight.
154lbs
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154lbs
no way, chepanzee. fmw or pac's camp would dehydrate him down to nothing, probably ask for him to weight in a 150-151 if his trainers were willing. they don't take it because when he re-inflates, he'll still carry a significant amount of that 160 pop.
he's jammed. maybe he has 3 good fights, and can't get a good money one. trainers have said no way in hell to move him up to 164 and face a 168 like ward.
too bad.
my response to Yuriorkis Gamboa:
i think we touched base on gamboa in the past. he's definitely an oddity, given most cuban fighters have illustrious and decorated amateur careers but don't have the resources to have equally successful pro careers. there are a couple fighting out of vegas right now but nothing to write about, and some ole school fighters but they all pretty much had 5 defeats or more.
at feather weight no one knows about him but you. i've said he'll have to move to lightweight 135 for recognition and money if he can maintain his power, just don't know if it is possible at 29-30. camacho made the move but at an earlier age.
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he wanted to fight pac man, but pac didnt want to fight because of being tested, wtf are you talking about? floyd hasnt ducked anyone. he asked pac man to fight, and he backed out. pretty simple.
UMM N0. HE ASKED PACMAN T0 BE TESTED UNDER FL0YD'S TERMS. THEY ALREADY HAVE TESTING AFTER THE FIGHT. MANNY HAS N0 REAS0N T0 ABIDE BY FL0YD'S TERMS. THAT IS RETARTED.
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UMM N0. HE ASKED PACMAN T0 BE TESTED UNDER FL0YD'S TERMS. THEY ALREADY HAVE TESTING AFTER THE FIGHT. MANNY HAS N0 REAS0N T0 ABIDE BY FL0YD'S TERMS. THAT IS RETARTED.
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what difference would it make with 50M on the table and if you are clean?
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no way, chepanzee. fmw or pac's camp would dehydrate him down to nothing, probably ask for him to weight in a 150-151 if his trainers were willing. they don't take it because when he re-inflates, he'll still carry a significant amount of that 160 pop.
he's jammed. maybe he has 3 good fights, and can't get a good money one. trainers have said no way in hell to move him up to 164 and face a 168 like ward.
too bad.
my response to Yuriorkis Gamboa:
i think we touched base on gamboa in the past. he's definitely an oddity, given most cuban fighters have illustrious and decorated amateur careers but don't have the resources to have equally successful pro careers. there are a couple fighting out of vegas right now but nothing to write about, and some ole school fighters but they all pretty much had 5 defeats or more.
at feather weight no one knows about him but you. i've said he'll have to move to lightweight 135 for recognition and money if he can maintain his power, just don't know if it is possible at 29-30. camacho made the move but at an earlier age.
Martinez said he can't go lower than 154lbs.
Gamboa, 29-30 yr/o it should be the start of his prime years .
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Mayweather knows that once he looses once he's done. Thats why he'll never fight Manny. After he walks through Ortiz he's gonna fight that Red Head Mexican Alverez. Mayweather isn't gonna fight Khan. Congradulations to Floyd with all of his success. No hate towards him. He's a buisiness man and has done a terrific job with it. But the guy will not enter the ring with anyone that has any sort of chance of beating him. He wants special tests for Manny? Why not for Marquez, Hatton, and Ortiz? They're all on it. Because Mayweather knows Manny can beat him. I have never in my entire life of watching boxing seen one boxer duck another boxer as bad as this.
QUOTED FOR FUCKING TRUTH!
I have been saying this for years!
Cowards like Maywather,greede promoters like Arum and the corrupted multiple world belts championship belts(WBO,WBA,WBC,IBF) are the reason why boxing is on his deathbed now!
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Ortiz is a bum who happened to beat Berto who also was a bum...both are no where near the level of fighter which is Floyd or Manny. Watching the Ortiz Maidano fight it is clear as day that Floyd just needs to do his thing and pick him apart so that by the 8-9th round it will be a KO. The only thing Ortiz has is a puncher's chance, he has a good left hook but other than that I doubt it will connect or cause trouble for Floyd who is the best defensive fighter in the modern era. Like I said... KO 8 - 9th Round Pretty Boy ....followed by further ducking of Manny with sayings like .." I have accomplished everything possible in the sport ..blah blah blah...no one left for me to fight blah blah blah ..." you know the routine... Manny is gonna eat Marquez for lunch when they meet, its no gonna to be close, he is much improved fighter since the last time...you'll see.
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what difference would it make with 50M on the table and if you are clean?
i agree, its cause hes not, simple as that
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what difference would it make with 50M on the table and if you are clean?
EXACTLY. ASK MAYWEATHER THIS. WHY D0SEN'T HE FIGHT MANNY UNDER NEUTRAL TERMS WITH 50 MILLI0N D0LLARS? INSTEAD HE HAS T0 MAKE HIS 0WN TERMS. WHY SH0ULD MANNY ABIDE BY IT? BECAUSE 0F THE 50 MILLI0N? THEN WHY CAN'T FL0YD ABIDE BY THE NEUTRAL TERMS 0F THE NEVADA C0MMISSI0N?
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i agree, its cause hes not, simple as that
N0. IT'S BECAUSE MAYWEATHER IS N0T IN A P0SITI0N T0 MAKE THE RULES F0R MANNY. WE HAVE A NEUTRAL PARTY CALLED THE NEVADA ATHLETIC C0MMISSI0N CALLING THE RULES N0T THE MAYWEATHER ALTHLETIC C0MMISSI0N. THIS IS A J0KE. MAYWEATHER IS USING EVERY EXCUSE IN THE B00K N0T T0 FIGHT MANNY. 0NE B0XER IS N0T IN A P0SITI0N T0 MAKE THE RULES F0R B0TH PARTIES. IT NEVER HAS W0RKED THAT WAY.
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Because Manny juices, probably times his shit perfectly.....and Floyd knows it. or should i say Roger Mayweather knows it
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Ortiz is a bum who happened to beat Berto who also was a bum...both are no where near the level of fighter which is Floyd or Manny. Watching the Ortiz Maidano fight it is clear as day that Floyd just needs to do his thing and pick him apart so that by the 8-9th round it will be a KO. The only thing Ortiz has is a puncher's chance, he has a good left hook but other than that I doubt it will connect or cause trouble for Floyd who is the best defensive fighter in the modern era. Like I said... KO 8 - 9th Round Pretty Boy ....followed by further ducking of Manny with sayings like .." I have accomplished everything possible in the sport ..blah blah blah...no one left for me to fight blah blah blah ..." you know the routine... Manny is gonna eat Marquez for lunch when they meet, its no gonna to be close, he is much improved fighter since the last time...you'll see.
you keep believing this craziness. fmw's defense makes him a BIG problem. arum and roach make manny a problem. you better look REAL hard at all of manny's fights over 140. they were all done, except cotto, who i give him credit for beating. if manny was all they make him out to be, they would have took the berto fight while fmw took the ortiz. the problem is, if berto turned one of those right hay-makers over on manny, manny little ass isn't getting up like ortiz. instead he fights another fmw reject, marquez, who can't fight over 140. i give fmw some credit for ortiz, because he won't be able knock him out and ortiz will move forward and try to make a fight of it. 8-4 FMW. 4 rds to ortiz for effective aggression. that's better than any fight manny has had at 140 except cotto, who still had brain damage from the bricks in marg's gloves.
manny is all hype. i'm guessing if ray leonard, duran and hearns were in their primes at 147, arum would find away to keep manny out the ring with them. amazing, martinez is too big but margo is 2 ins taller than him. that goes to fmw also
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Because Manny juices, probably times his shit perfectly.....and Floyd knows it. or should i say Roger Mayweather knows it
MANNY JUICES THEN FL0YD JUICES AND S0 D0ES EVERY0NE ELSE. THERE'S N0 REAS0N T0 SUSPECT MANNY IS D0ING BUT N0T FL0YD. EVERY PR0 B0XER JUICES. IT'S LIKE SAYING 0NLY S0ME 0LYMPIC ATHLETES JUICE BUT N0 ALL. FL0YD IS JUST D0ING EVERYTHING P0SSIBLE T0 DEFLECT THE ATTENTI0N FR0M HIM AND 0N MANNY. IF MANNY IS D0ING IT, THEN S0 IS EVERY0NE ELSE AS THERE HAVE BEEN B0XERS LIKE M0SLEY TESTING P0SITIVE.
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you keep believing this craziness. fmw's defense makes him a BIG problem. arum and roach make manny a problem. you better look REAL hard at all of manny's fights over 140. they were all done, except cotto, who i give him credit for beating. if manny was all they make him out to be, they would have took the berto fight while fmw took the ortiz. the problem is, if berto turned one of those right hay-makers over on manny, manny little ass isn't getting up like ortiz. instead he fights another fmw reject, marquez, who can't fight over 140. i give fmw some credit for ortiz, because he won't be able knock him out and ortiz will move forward and try to make a fight of it. 8-4 FMW. 4 rds to ortiz for effective aggression. that's better than any fight manny has had at 140 except cotto, who still had brain damage from the bricks in marg's gloves.
manny is all hype. i'm guessing if ray leonard, duran and hearns were in their primes at 147, arum would find away to keep manny out the ring with them. amazing, martinez is too big but margo is 2 ins taller than him. that goes to fmw also
0RTIZ WILL N0T LAND 0NE PUNCH 0N MAYWEATHER. EASY STYLE F0R MAYWEATHER. 0RTIZ HAS P00R DEFENSE.
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154lbs
yeah that would be an obvious choice but I believe he claimed could possibly catch weight a little lower since no way in hell does manny or fmw take that fight at 154.
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IT W0ULD N0T MAKE SENSE F0R MANNY T0 FIGHT MARTINEZ WH0 SH0WS UP FIGHT TIME AT 175 LBS WHEN MANNY WEIGHS IN AT 145 LBS. IT'S RETARTED T0 EVEN TALK AB0UT IT. THIS IS WHY WE HAVE WEIGHT CLASSES.
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yeah that would be an obvious choice but I believe he claimed could possibly catch weight a little lower since no way in hell does manny or fmw take that fight at 154.
He said not below 152 lbs
http://www.boxingnews24.com/2011/07/sergio-martinez-wants-mayweather-bout/
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IT W0ULD N0T MAKE SENSE F0R MANNY T0 FIGHT MARTINEZ WH0 SH0WS UP FIGHT TIME AT 175 LBS WHEN MANNY WEIGHS IN AT 145 LBS. IT'S RETARTED T0 EVEN TALK AB0UT IT. THIS IS WHY WE HAVE WEIGHT CLASSES.
I agree, Martinez sounds like a bully when talking about these possible fights.. doubt he weights anywhere near 175 when he fights at 154, maybe out of shaoe walking around weight.
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He said not below 152 lbs
http://www.boxingnews24.com/2011/07/sergio-martinez-wants-mayweather-bout/
there you go, thats what it was. knew it was below 54.
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I agree, Martinez sounds like a bully when talking about these possible fights.. doubt he weights anywhere near 175 when he fights at 154, maybe out of shaoe walking around weight.
He's not a bully he just wants to get paid , nobody wants to fight him at 154 lbs or 160lbs.
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I want to see Mayweather fight this guy at 147
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He's not a bully he just wants to get paid , nobody wants to fight him at 154 lbs or 160lbs.
UHH YAH N0B0DY WH0'S A NATURAL LIGHT WEIGHT 0R WELTER WEIGHT.
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He's not a bully he just wants to get paid , nobody wants to fight him at 154 lbs or 160lbs.
Yeah he wants to get paid, and there aren't too many other big fights for him atm.. whether he is or isn't a bully, a guy who fights at 160 calling out 47 pounders does sound like it :-\, not saying he is though as Pavlik was huge when SM fought him but sure sounds the part.
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UHH YAH N0B0DY WH0'S A NATURAL LIGHT WEIGHT 0R WELTER WEIGHT.
or MW
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or MW
HIGHLY D0UBT IT. I D0N'T SEE MARTINEZ CALLING 0UT H0PKINS 0R 0THER MIDDLE WEIGHTS. I D0 SEE HIM RUNNING AR0UND CALLING 0UT MAYWEATHER AND MANNY.
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Just like Mayweather is a buisiness man so is Manny. Manny/Marquez is a marketable fight. He's not a Mayweather reject at all. But he is an old man that has been through a life time of ring wars and will be destroyed this time around. Hatton was winning against Mayweather until he got gased. Oscar won on one of the judges score cards against Mayweather. Hatton had one defeat and it wasn't even a bad one. Manny almost killed Hatton. That guy will never be the same. Margeritto was 17 lbs heavier then Manny with a granite chin. Manny destroyed him. The Mosley fight was a rip off to the fans. It was not an in demand fight for the fans. Out of everyone on your list the only one that was truly done and you disagree was Cotto. Cotto will never be the same fighter after that fight with Margeritto. To think Cotto still had anything left after that fight is completely wrong. He is a broken fighter. Mannys team capitalized on it. Yes Mannys opponents are hand picked. But thats what the buisiness has become. Either way he's exciting to watch.
HATT0N WAS WINNING? Y0U CAN ST0P P0STING AFTER THIS.
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He said not below 152 lbs
http://www.boxingnews24.com/2011/07/sergio-martinez-wants-mayweather-bout/
i can see fmw taking amir, but he won't mess with martinez. really, the only fight i see for martinez with some money tied to it is edison maranda coming back to 160, given he can't take a 168 punch but can still send an 160 through the ropes with one punch.
martinez is like 36, so you know he must be good if younger guys are avoiding him. too bad he doesn't have time on his side and a good payday opponent.
outside of paul williams the guy has to fight tomatoes, not by choice, just to get a check.
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HIGHLY D0UBT IT. I D0N'T SEE MARTINEZ CALLING 0UT H0PKINS 0R 0THER MIDDLE WEIGHTS. I D0 SEE HIM RUNNING AR0UND CALLING 0UT MAYWEATHER AND MANNY.
He has called out every top 154-160lbs and nobody wants to fight him.
Hopkins hasn't fought as a MW since 2005 ,retard.
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He has called out every top 154-160lbs and nobody wants to fight him.
Hopkins hasn't fought as a MW since 2005 ,retard.
IRRELEVANT. MARTINEZ IS BIG EN0UGH T0 FIGHT H0PKINS AS H0PKINS IS SMALL F0R HIS WEIGHT CLASS AND MARTINEZ SH0WS UP 175 LBS FIGHT TIME. INSTEAD HE'S THE BEING THE PUSSY AND CALLING 0UT WELTER WEIGHTS. SEE THE D0UBLE STANDARDS. IT'S 0KAY F0R MARTINEZ T0 CALL 0UT 145 LBERS BUT N0T 0KAY F0R HIM T0 CALL 0UT BIGGER MEN.
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IRRELEVANT. MARTINEZ IS BIG EN0UGH T0 FIGHT H0PKINS AS H0PKINS IS SMALL F0R HIS WEIGHT CLASS AND MARTINEZ SH0WS UP 175 LBS FIGHT TIME. INSTEAD HE'S THE BEING THE PUSSY AND CALLING 0UT WELTER WEIGHTS. SEE THE D0UBLE STANDARDS. IT'S 0KAY F0R MARTINEZ T0 CALL 0UT 145 LBERS BUT N0T 0KAY F0R HIM T0 CALL 0UT BIGGER MEN.
He's not calling out welter weights ,he's calling out Floyd and Manny because that's where the money is .
Fight with Pac or FMW = $10,000,000 +
Fight with Hopkins or whoever = $1,000,000
How hard is it to understand ???
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Mayweather knows that once he looses once he's done. Thats why he'll never fight Manny. After he walks through Ortiz he's gonna fight that Red Head Mexican Alverez. Mayweather isn't gonna fight Khan. Congradulations to Floyd with all of his success. No hate towards him. He's a buisiness man and has done a terrific job with it. But the guy will not enter the ring with anyone that has any sort of chance of beating him. He wants special tests for Manny? Why not for Marquez, Hatton, and Ortiz? They're all on it. Because Mayweather knows Manny can beat him. I have never in my entire life of watching boxing seen one boxer duck another boxer as bad as this.
Each one of your posts deserve a double : ::) ::)
You hug onto little Manny's nuts soooooooooo tight, Timmy.
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IRRELEVANT. MARTINEZ IS BIG EN0UGH T0 FIGHT H0PKINS AS H0PKINS IS SMALL F0R HIS WEIGHT CLASS AND MARTINEZ SH0WS UP 175 LBS FIGHT TIME. INSTEAD HE'S THE BEING THE PUSSY AND CALLING 0UT WELTER WEIGHTS. SEE THE D0UBLE STANDARDS. IT'S 0KAY F0R MARTINEZ T0 CALL 0UT 145 LBERS BUT N0T 0KAY F0R HIM T0 CALL 0UT BIGGER MEN.
Do you have a source for this??
Check this out, first couple of seconds.. he had ball taking this fight then considering the weight difference.