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Every football game and news channel was sucking the nut sacks of the military during their 9/11 tribute. What the fuck did the military do? I can understand the firemen and policemen getting recognition but they have these fucking 19 year old navy sailors wearing their gay white outfits like they did something during the football broadcasts. Doesn't the news even realize that a lot of these military losers they were thanking were in their early teens during 9/11?
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Every football game and news channel was sucking the nut sacks of the military during their 9/11 tribute. What the fuck did the military do? I can understand the firemen and policemen getting recognition but they have these fucking 19 year old navy sailors wearing their gay white outfits like they did something during the football broadcasts. Doesn't the news even realize that a lot of these military losers they were thanking were in their early teens during 9/11?
They were thanked for enlisting after 9/11..
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Every football game and news channel was sucking the nut sacks of the military during their 9/11 tribute. What the fuck did the military do? I can understand the firemen and policemen getting recognition but they have these fucking 19 year old navy sailors wearing their gay white outfits like they did something during the football broadcasts. Doesn't the news even realize that a lot of these military losers they were thanking were in their early teens during 9/11?
whether you agree with imperialist america's military or not, you have to admit they are largely responsible for america's way of life (good or bad) by pwning other inferior shitty countries. that is why they are thanked.
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whether you agree with imperialist america's military or not, you have to admit they are largely responsible for america's way of life (good or bad) by pwning other inferior shitty countries. that is why they are thanked.
yeah, it's about protecting our standard of living, very much so. You gotta throw the morals out. We got our independence from UK, and we were pwning african tripoli for their rubber supplies by 1805, I believe. COLONIALISM. It's how the world has and always will work. HOwever, since the internet is around to reveal what we're doing, we have to paint it with "WMD" and "communism" and every other "ism" around.
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Because they did it
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Honestly they messed up. 3 of our own planes flying into our own buildings?? The firemen and cops were the real heroes.
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Honestly they messed up. 3 of our own planes flying into our own buildings?? The firemen and cops were the real heroes.
Didn't they shoot the 4th one out of the sky ?
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I'm pro military but I have to kind of agree with this. They put the camera on some fat woman in an army uniform. You know she's just there for the G.I bill and other free things that come from being in the military. It gets a little annoying but you have to show respect.
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FFS
They made you bankrupt producing nothing but dollar bills and missiles >:( >:(
Show sum' respect, bro!!!
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I'm pro military but I have to kind of agree with this. They put the camera on some fat woman in an army uniform. You know she's just there for the G.I bill and other free things that come from being in the military. It gets a little annoying but you have to show respect.
Why?
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Didn't they shoot the 4th one out of the sky ?
Nope. passengers revolted and plane crashed in a field in Penn.
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Didn't they shoot the 4th one out of the sky ?
LOL
Imagine air force shooting a passenger plane down from the sky :o :o :o :o :o
You nuts ??? ??? :o :o :o :o
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American military is a joke. Wasting time and money in shitty 3rd world countries that have nothing to do with them while Mexican and other immigrants invade the Borders daily. Look after your own country first, then worry about kurdiakistan
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Nope. passengers revolted and plane crashed in a field in Penn.
the debris field was spread over 8 miles.
In a candid moment in front of U.S. troops, Donald Rumsfeld strays from the official story of heroic passengers flying fight 93 into the ground by saying it was "shot down."
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LOL
Imagine air force shooting a passenger plane down from the sky :o :o :o :o :o
You nuts ??? ??? :o :o :o :o
Our leaders thought Americans needed some positivity that day, so they created a story about "let's roll" and the passengers saving the day.
the photos, evidence, and words of our own secretary of defense show that it was in fact shot down. NBC choppers at the site initially saw zero wreckage, I can youtube that up too.
the plane was shot down to protect the 4th target. Can't blame our leaders for doing it. History will show this. But maybe americans needed that lie to be told to them. Kinda like "Your grandfather died killing nazis in WWII" as opposed to "your grandfather died when the ship he was travling on was sunk by U-boats, all 150 men perished in the cold sea". Ya know?
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Our leaders thought Americans needed some positivity that day, so they created a story about "let's roll" and the passengers saving the day.
the photos, evidence, and words of our own secretary of defense show that it was in fact shot down. NBC choppers at the site initially saw zero wreckage, I can youtube that up too.
the plane was shot down to protect the 4th target. Can't blame our leaders for doing it. History will show this. But maybe americans needed that lie to be told to them. Kinda like "Your grandfather died killing nazis in WWII" as opposed to "your grandfather died when the ship he was travling on was sunk by U-boats, all 150 men perished in the cold sea". Ya know?
Wasn't there evidence of people storming the cockpit and crashing the plane? ie phone calls with relatives who said they were about to do so... ???
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breaking news are prone to be wrong
1) "Art Dale Atwood died today in Dallas, Texas. He was 37 years old. The circumstances of his death are still unclear. Although, there have been several sources that have said that Art was at a pool party and fell or jumped in. When he was pulled out by fellow party goes he was already blue and wasn't able to be resuscitated."
2) "The real story is
Art Atwood was walking through his condo complex by the pool when he suffered a massive heart attack. He fell into the pool, people immediately rushed to help. Paramedics came pretty quickly, but couldn't help him"
3)"Art Atwood died of massive heart attack in Dallas aged 37 years old at a pool party after BabyGM fondled his left man-breast on the grassy knoll of his his condo complex "
You can see that the real story only comes out after a few news iterations. This leads to conspiracy theories
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breaking news are prone to be wrong
1) "Art Dale Atwood died today in Dallas, Texas. He was 37 years old. The circumstances of his death are still unclear. Although, there have been several sources that have said that Art was at a pool party and fell or jumped in. When he was pulled out by fellow party goes he was already blue and wasn't able to be resuscitated."
2) "The real story is
Art Atwood was walking through his condo complex by the pool when he suffered a massive heart attack. He fell into the pool, people immediately rushed to help. Paramedics came pretty quickly, but couldn't help him"
3)"Art Atwood died of massive heart attack in Dallas aged 37 years old at a pool party after BabyGM fondled his left man-breast on the grassy knoll of his his condo complex "
You can see that the real story only comes out after a few news iterations. This leads to conspiracy theories
;D
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Wasn't there evidence of people storming the cockpit and crashing the plane? ie phone calls with relatives who said they were about to do so... ???
Well, "evidence" came from the White House. The same White House that told us the "Let's roll" story. The same White House that told a lot of fibs that day. And independent analysis of the phone technology and the weirdness of the calls (people using their last name when talking to their mom, etc)...
Well, if they'll lie about shooting down a plane (they did, and Rummy points it out).... Methinks they'd lie about motivational phoe calls to sell their story.
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Well, "evidence" came from the White House. The same White House that told us the "Let's roll" story. The same White House that told a lot of fibs that day. And independent analysis of the phone technology and the weirdness of the calls (people using their last name when talking to their mom, etc)...
Well, if they'll lie about shooting down a plane (they did, and Rummy points it out).... Methinks they'd lie about motivational phoe calls to sell their story.
I don't doubt they wouldn't do that for a second but its just funny how they fabricated the story using people's names and these plot holes weren't found out earlier. Not to mention all the reenactment stories on A&E and Discovery about this that I watched for nothing, I feel so let down :-\
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I don't doubt they wouldn't do that for a second but its just funny how they fabricated the story using people's names and these plot holes weren't found out earlier. Not to mention all the reenactment stories on A&E and Discovery about this that I watched for nothing, I feel so let down :-\
it's possible they said all the cool inspirational things - THEN the govt shot them down.
THe cool calls and quotes might exist. But we know for fact they were shot down. Which kinda makes using their name/story even worse, but hey, that's how it works.
Pat Tillman... remember how he so bravely fought to the end? THen it turned out to be friendly fire and other shady coverup stuff.
Jessica Lynch? We were told she emptied 2 magazines into the bad guys before running out of ammo. Truth? She crashed and never fired a shot, sustained weeks of rape, and was left at a hospital.
Countries always make up stories of heroism to give their citizens something to be happy about it. When it comes out false later, the headlins are much smaller.
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yeah, it's about protecting our standard of living, very much so. You gotta throw the morals out. We got our independence from UK, and we were pwning african tripoli for their rubber supplies by 1805, I believe. COLONIALISM. It's how the world has and always will work. HOwever, since the internet is around to reveal what we're doing, we have to paint it with "WMD" and "communism" and every other "ism" around.
Jefferson sent some warships to fend of Barbary pirates (really!) from American Mediterranean shipping lanes. Not heard the rubber supply angle, or I've long forgotten it. I do know that's the 'to the shores of Tripoli' from the Marine song, tho.
/gettin' old
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Our leaders thought Americans needed some positivity that day, so they created a story about "let's roll" and the passengers saving the day.
the photos, evidence, and words of our own secretary of defense show that it was in fact shot down. NBC choppers at the site initially saw zero wreckage, I can youtube that up too.
the plane was shot down to protect the 4th target. Can't blame our leaders for doing it. History will show this. But maybe americans needed that lie to be told to them. Kinda like "Your grandfather died killing nazis in WWII" as opposed to "your grandfather died when the ship he was travling on was sunk by U-boats, all 150 men perished in the cold sea". Ya know?
Wait, youre saying the plane that went down over shanksville was in fact, shot down out of the air?
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The military marketing machine managed to now make 9/11 a way to promote themselves. They are the biggest attention whores of them all.
You should have seen some of these "elite" fat, young, moron soldiers they had on TV that the newscaster were honoring. It is drivel. Horrible exploitation of others deaths to make themselves seem too important.
The fact is the military is killing the US financial system and is the biggest jobs program the gov't has now. reducing the military means losing jobs and no politician wants to touch that. They created this creepy monopoly.
The Army spends hundreds of millions a year in advertising alone. Not on weapons, not on protecting our "freedom" but on fucking commericials during the superbowl, paying $25 MILLION a year to sponsor a NASCAR, and other shit. They are milking this country dry.
Then you have these uneducated high school dropouts getting honored like they are special. Fuck that shit.
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The military marketing machine managed to now make 9/11 a way to promote themselves. They are the biggest attention whores of them all.
You should have seen some of these "elite" fat, young, moron soldiers they had on TV that the newscaster were honoring. It is drivel. Horrible exploitation of others deaths to make themselves seem too important.
The fact is the military is killing the US financial system and is the biggest jobs program the gov't has now. reducing the military means losing jobs and no politician wants to touch that. They created this creepy monopoly.
The Army spends hundreds of millions a year in advertising alone. Not on weapons, not on protecting our "freedom" but on fucking commericials during the superbowl, paying $25 MILLION a year to sponsor a NASCAR, and other shit. They are milking this country dry.
Then you have these uneducated high school dropouts getting honored like they are special. Fuck that shit.
The military slice of the budget pie, must be maintained, and increased whenever possible. Heck, Eisenhower warned of the ever-growing 'Military Industrial' complex when exiting office. No one has really seemed up to the task of doing anything about it. Just so much gravy to be had.
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if 9/11 went down the way the way american government wants you to think it went down there'd be nothing to question- its the truth- the truth is never shady. but because what they are selling the public is complete bullshit, then of course people are going to question it.
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if 9/11 went down the way the way american government wants you to think it went down there'd be nothing to question- its the truth- the truth is never shady. but because what they are selling the public is complete bullshit, then of course people are going to question it.
Patriotism trumps truth.
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Wait, youre saying the plane that went down over shanksville was in fact, shot down out of the air?
Sec of Defense Donald Rumsfeld said it.
ALso the debris field was spread over EIGHT MILES. That is what happens when planes explode at high altitudes.
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Sec of Defense Donald Rumsfeld said it.
ALso the debris field was spread over EIGHT MILES. That is what happens when planes explode at high altitudes.
Interesting.
That was not the official story in the 9/11 commission, was it?
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Interesting.
That was not the official story in the 9/11 commission, was it?
Goodness no.
But again, it's like TIllman, Jessica Lynch, and others- Our leaders decide it's better for the national cause to have these stories of hope and patriotism.
DId it help the war effort and get a few extra ten thousand people to enlist? you bet. Did it ramp up the 911 Red Cross donations? Surely that "lets's roll" story did. But the evidence, Rumsfeld, and the early helicopter footage of scene (followed by blanketing off everything so nobody could see anything) tell the story.
And sadly, if we ran america, we would probably lie the same way - for the greater good.
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Goodness no.
But again, it's like TIllman, Jessica Lynch, and others- Our leaders decide it's better for the national cause to have these stories of hope and patriotism.
DId it help the war effort and get a few extra ten thousand people to enlist? you bet. Did it ramp up the 911 Red Cross donations? Surely that "lets's roll" story did. But the evidence, Rumsfeld, and the early helicopter footage of scene (followed by blanketing off everything so nobody could see anything) tell the story.
And sadly, if we ran america, we would probably lie the same way - for the greater good.
Can you link me to rumsfeld's quote?
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Can you link me to rumsfeld's quote?
In a candid moment in front of U.S. troops, Donald Rumsfeld strays from the official story of heroic passengers flying fight 93 into the ground by saying it was "shot down."
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He doesn't say the military shot it down. He's talking in the context of terrorists bringing it down.
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He doesn't say the military shot it down. He's talking in the context of terrorists bringing it down.
He used the word "shot down".
We are all welcome to interpret it any way we please. When you add in the debris field over 8 miles, well, I tend to take his words to mean shot down.
I could be wrong, of course.
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He used the word "shot down".
We are all welcome to interpret it any way we please. When you add in the debris field over 8 miles, well, I tend to take his words to mean shot down.
I could be wrong, of course.
There is no doubt he is referring to terrorists destroying the plane, as it is mentioned in the middle of the list of terrorist acts.
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He used the word "shot down".
We are all welcome to interpret it any way we please. When you add in the debris field over 8 miles, well, I tend to take his words to mean shot down.
I could be wrong, of course.
Sigh.
Thanks i guess.
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He doesn't say the military shot it down. He's talking in the context of terrorists bringing it down.
How do you know that? The facts and evidence, and lack of footage or media coverage at the crash site absolutely suggest that mofo was shot out of mid air.
Flicking through the channels last night, I stopped at the SPEED network for a few minutes just to watch some stupid redneck show called Pass Time just because Im a car junkie. And honestly I couldnt watch 5 more minutes of it purely because of the ridiculous non stop Army advertisements (signs and symbols) constantly on camera in between the action. They must of showed the US Army symbol half a dozen times in only a few minutes. Simple farm boys who watch this and have only a family run business or farm to look forward to in the future see the army as a way out of the boring and depressing small town life. They have this US Army blurb imprinted in their brains from the subliminal BS they see on their favorite NASCAR or UFC fighter's shorts and they go for the bait.
The SPEED Network targets the audience of young men 18- 25 who live in rural areas and most of them haven't been out into the real world yet or outside the US and are fairly naive and super chauvinistic, they are perfect potential drones to mold. SPIKE TV is another massive super corporation with the same youth targeting propaganda policies. Very sad world we live in.
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The firemen and cops were the real heroes.
No they weren't, they were doing their job , that's what they get paid for , same thing with the military .
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How do you know that? The facts and evidence, and lack of footage or media coverage at the crash site absolutely suggest that mofo was shot out of mid air.
it's pretty unlikely that the secretary of defense would mix up his words and use words like "SHOT DOWN" accidentally.
The 911 report said the place nosedived and crashed on impact, and the reason none of the debris was at the crash site? It all sank into an underground mine shaft.
Because the debris fields were separate, rather than continuous, it is likely that they were produced by two separate incidents. type of debris is consistent with a pair of strikes by 20-mm cannon fire from an Air Force interceptor. fact that there are debris fields so far from the impact point indicates that the incidents occurred while the plane was still in flight. That differs significantly from the government-sponsored story that the airliner was damaged entirely by the crash impact.
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While we can all argue "was 911 an inside job" for the next 50 years, we may never know.
However, it's pretty well documented the plane was probably shot up before landed. Witnesses to a final explosion and lots of falling debris.
http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/kovach/051012 <=Written by a decorated navy vet
Read that. Lots of documentation and other items. F-15s strafed the plane with gunfire in 2 incidents, then finally took it down as it approached cities.
If you spend 60 seconds skimming that, and still believe the plane nosedived without being shot up, I'll be shocked.
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yeah, it's about protecting our standard of living, very much so. You gotta throw the morals out. We got our independence from UK, and we were pwning african tripoli for their rubber supplies by 1805, I believe. COLONIALISM. It's how the world has and always will work. HOwever, since the internet is around to reveal what we're doing, we have to paint it with "WMD" and "communism" and every other "ism" around.
But what standards? Detroit looks like a bomb went off. Our roads are crumbling. The Space program is virtually dismantled. So much for protecting the standards. The only thing protected was the interests of the elite. Thanks a lot fuckers!
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But if it's certain the plane is on its way to hit the White House, killing the passengers plus people on the ground, it makes sense to shoot it in the air...
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But if it's certain the plane is on its way to hit the White House, killing the passengers plus people on the ground, it makes sense to shoot it in the air...
agreed, which is why most skeptics just kinda roll with this part of the story. had to do it. didn't have to lie tho.
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But if it's certain the plane is on its way to hit the White House, killing the passengers plus people on the ground, it makes sense to shoot it in the air...
Yes.
I investigated this little more and seems like Superpowers can shoot passenger planes down if they want.
Here is example from goooood ol' USSR:
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Haha, shot down point blank in 1983 because it got too close :o Didn't give a shit.
62 Americans also died in it. among many many others :-\
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How do you know that? The facts and evidence, and lack of footage or media coverage at the crash site absolutely suggest that mofo was shot out of mid air.
I didn't say whether or not the plane was shot down. I said if you listen to Rumsfeld's comments, he was listing acts of terrorism, the plane in question being one of them. He said "imagine a world where if the people responsible for...." and listed all the acts.
So, he made a mistake, but it's not cut and dry which mistake he made. He either got the method (shot down) right, and the source (terrorists) wrong, or the method (shot down) wrong, and the source (Terrorists) right.
240 said it was unlikely that he could mix up his words, but it's obvious that he did. It just depends on which words you believe he mixed up.
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Don`t know if you can watch this 240 on the BBC i player,but this was shown last week in the UK,and the explanation for why there was just a hole in the ground was that the hole was that deep,the sides caved in and buried the plane.If that was the case,then why not just dig it out.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b014gpjx/9_11_Conspiracy_Road_Trip/
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But doesn't president Obama want to welcome all the illegal Mexicans?
American military is a joke. Wasting time and money in shitty 3rd world countries that have nothing to do with them while Mexican and other immigrants invade the Borders daily. Look after your own country first, then worry about kurdiakistan
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Well if the military shot the plane down then wouldn't that mean that 9/11 was not an inside job?
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because they're still in the line of fire for some of you ungrateful americans
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Lots of people in the military aren't there for me, they are there for themselves. A career move. Also for free education, free medical etc.
Send some of them to battle and they will shit themselves and probably run away or hide.
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The military slice of the budget pie, must be maintained, and increased whenever possible. Heck, Eisenhower warned of the ever-growing 'Military Industrial' complex when exiting office. No one has really seemed up to the task of doing anything about it. Just so much gravy to be had.
exactly. i'm for "gubernment jerbs" like i'm for a deep tissue massage, but the machine's become a hungry monster. hell, they make video games now.
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Well if the military shot the plane down then wouldn't that mean that 9/11 was not an inside job?
it would mean any investigation by this govt - which lied about a LOT of things we know already - woudn't be credible.
An independent investigation - scientists, physicists - with none of the politics or blame - would be ideal.
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it would mean any investigation by this govt - which lied about a LOT of things we know already - woudn't be credible.
An independent investigation - scientists, physicists - with none of the politics or blame - would be ideal.
yeah, but they're also on someone's payroll (usually government), so it'd be hard to find someone who's unbiased.
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yeah, but they're also on someone's payroll (usually government), so it'd be hard to find someone who's unbiased.
maybe - but just putting the evidence on a national/world stage will be enough to tell the world THE TRUTH. Sure, you'll have govt hackks selling their story. But some things you just can't lie thru.