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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: bears on September 12, 2011, 01:26:56 PM
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http://culturerev.com/2011/09/the-latest-type-of-acceptable-abortion-strangling-your-newborn/
Wow. I'm going to grab some popcorn and watch a bunch of people try and defend this. This should be good.
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not sure how anyone could defend that shit. Very disturbing.
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not sure how anyone could defend that shit. Very disturbing.
Already been done by our Dear President bro.
Write a letter to the WH and he can send you his speeches defending live birth abortion.
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Already been done by our Dear President bro.
Write a letter to the WH and he can send you his speeches defending live birth abortion.
you're saying Obama supported the right of mothers to carry their babies 9 months, give birth to them, strangle them and then toss them over a fence? ::) Something tells me you're once again exaggerating. I'm not for abortion unless it's for fucked up shit like rape or a child that isn't going to live anyway so I don't agree with Obama's position but your ability to stretch the facts without blinking an eye is disturbing.
Here's the full story with both sides of what you're talking about with Obama, I can't see remotely where this means that Obama would support this woman killing her newborn baby and chucking it over a fence.
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/obama-and-infanticide/
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Classic 33333 ;D
Aside from that, what a tragic story and how this gal doesn't go to prison i don't know. WHACKED
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you're saying Obama supported the right of mothers to carry their babies 9 months, give birth to them, strangle them and then toss them over a fence? ::) Something tells me you're once again exaggerating. I'm not for abortion unless it's for fucked up shit like rape or a child that isn't going to live anyway so I don't agree with Obama's position but your ability to stretch the facts without blinking an eye is disturbing.
Here's the full story with both sides of what you're talking about with Obama, I can't see remotely where this means that Obama would support this woman killing her newborn baby and chucking it over a fence.
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/obama-and-infanticide/
There were many debates on this, many on which you posted.
Look it up. obama defended a policy that allowed a doctor carry out a live birth abortion because that was the mothers' intent.
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There were many debates on this, many on which you posted.
Look it up. obama defended a policy that allowed a doctor carry out a live birth abortion because that was the mothers' intent.
what the fuck do you think I just did... I looked it up.
"In 2002, Obama said that he thought Illinois already had laws sufficient to ensure that children that survived abortion received care. The proposed law would have required two doctors instead of one in the case of a live birth to ensure that care would be provided. "If these are children who are being born alive, I, at least, have confidence that a doctor who is in the room is going to make sure that they’re looked after," Obama said then.
At no time did Obama say that children born prematurely can be legally killed.
To reiterate what’s not in dispute: Obama opposed "born alive" legislation in Illinois and gave several reasons for opposing the proposals. But at no time did he make the argument that infants who survived botched abortions should be killed.
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PANTS ON FIRE
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/mar/10/rick-santorum/rick-santorum-said-obama-said-any-child-born-prema/
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what the fuck do you think I just did... I looked it up.
"In 2002, Obama said that he thought Illinois already had laws sufficient to ensure that children that survived abortion received care. The proposed law would have required two doctors instead of one in the case of a live birth to ensure that care would be provided. "If these are children who are being born alive, I, at least, have confidence that a doctor who is in the room is going to make sure that they’re looked after," Obama said then.
At no time did Obama say that children born prematurely can be legally killed."
PANTS ON FIRE
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/mar/10/rick-santorum/rick-santorum-said-obama-said-any-child-born-prema/
Yeah ok, Obama is always being too cute by half on that.
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tic toc tic toc
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Tic toc what - obama lied his ass off in the quote he pasted.
Collosus and Beach already posted obamas lies on this.
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Yeah ok, Obama is always being too cute by half on that.
So we went from you suggesting Obama supports a mother's right to strangle her newborn and chuck it over a fence to you saying "Obama is always being too cute" ::)
mmmkay....
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I don't see it.
Quote the lie, don't spam articles. quote the exact lie and link it. plz.
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Tic toc what - obama lied his ass off in the quote he pasted.
Collosus and Beach already posted obamas lies on this.
I like how neither of the major fact checking sites can conclude this the way you have so you just keep your opinion and say Obama and the known facts are bullshit lol...
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So we went from you suggesting Obama supports a mother's right to strangle her newborn and chuck it over a fence to you saying "Obama is always being too cute" ::)
mmmkay....
He supports the idea that if a mother wants an abortion, but the baby somehow is born alive for some reason, that it is ok to let the baby die or otherwise since that was the intent of the mother, to have the abortion.
Call it what you want, same end result.
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He supports the idea that if a mother wants an abortion, but the baby somehow is born alive for some reason, that it is ok to let the baby die or otherwise since that was the intent of the mother, to have the abortion.
Call it what you want, same end result.
Well, one thing for sure, you pretty much just admitted that you didn't read the fact checking sites I posted on this issue... Way to go 3333, typical. In fact there were already laws on the books in that state that stipulated medical help be given to viable babies born alive. If you would have read the information, you would know that. It also indicates Obama was well aware of that in the cases he made on this issue.
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Well, one thing for sure, you pretty much just admitted that you didn't read the fact checking sites I posted on this issue... Way to go 3333, typical. In fact there were already laws on the books in that state that stipulated medical help be given to viable babies born alive. If you would have read the information, you would know that. It also indicates Obama was well aware of that in the cases he made on this issue.
I read everything on this and everyone knows obama lied his ass off. Sorry - his qualified statements to CYA dont cover it.
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I read everything on this and everyone knows obama lied his ass off. Sorry - his qualified statements to CYA dont cover it.
you read everything on this as it was provided by rightwing sources you trust on this. The ones that bash Obama daily. You didn't read the two fact checking links I provided that cover both sides of the controversy and conclude without bias that there is no evidense to accuse Obama of what you are accusing him of. But somehow you think it's cool to say Obama would support what this woman did in the original post. ::)
LOL, You say nobody takes me serious when infact you constantly give reasons like this for people to not take you serious.
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you read everything on this as it was provided by rightwing sources you trust on this. The ones that bash Obama daily. You didn't read the two fact checking links I provided that cover both sides of the controversy and conclude without bias that there is no evidense to accuse Obama of what you are accusing him of. But somehow you think it's cool to say Obama would support what this woman did in the original post. ::)
LOL, You say nobody takes me serious when infact you constantly give reasons like this for people to not take you serious.
Difference is that most of those sources have been dead right on everything about obama. Whether its the failed health care, the radical appiontments, the lies, the economic agenda, his energy insanity, etc.
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Difference is that most of those sources have been dead right on everything about obama. Whether its the failed health care, the radical appiontments, the lies, the economic agenda, his energy insanity, etc.
Making a great case for why people should take you serious... LOL... "My rightwing sources are spot on about Obama, I don't need no stinking fact checks"
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Right wing or left wing sources would never lie, propagate, spin or bend the truth.
EVER.
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3333, you suggested Obama would be in support of what the mother did in the original post. How does anything you've posted or bumped back that up?
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Right wing or left wing sources would never lie, propagate, spin or bend the truth.
EVER.
lol... I like how he felt that he was losing ground on his original claim in this thread so instead he bails on this thread and bumps old threads which doesn't make his case either. classic 3333....
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Based on the position he took in the live abortion debate way back when, why wouldn't he? Same end result and principle.
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I don't see it.
Quote the lie, don't spam articles. quote the exact lie and link it. plz.
I am still waiting for this.
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A THIRD FACT CHECK ON WHAT HAPPENED:
The Pinocchio Test
Reasonable people can differ on whether the 1975 Illinois state law needed to be strengthened, and the likely effect of the various "Born Alive" bills rejected by the Illinois legislature between 2001 and 2003. But it is unfair to accuse Obama of supporting the withdrawal of medical treatment from babies born as the result of a botched abortion. He has never adopted such an "extreme" position.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/10/is_obama_guilty_of_infanticide.html
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Hasn't it already been thoroughly establised that 333 "hears" and "reads" and "sees" whatever he wants to regardless of what is said or written in the video or document in question
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Hasn't it already been thoroughly establised that 333 "hears" and "reads" and "sees" whatever he wants to regardless of what is said or written in the video or document in question
and Plan B... Go on a bump rampage when "whatever he wants to see" doesn't work out lol....
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The kid was born, then she strangled it. Sounds like murder to me.
But, it's Canada and:
1. Nobody cares about Canada
2. Canada's never contributed anything of any significance to the world anyway - this included.
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The kid was born, then she strangled it. Sounds like murder to me.
But, it's Canada and:
1. Nobody cares about Canada
2. Canada's never contributed anything of any significance to the world anyway - this included.
;D
I believe you're mistaken, though. They graced us with a 160-IQ, snake-oil peddling, charlatan.
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I believe you're mistaken, though. They graced us with a 160-IQ, snake-oil peddling, charlatan.
oh, my bad.
Wonder where she's been anyway. Ever since Hugo destroyed her on the CT board it's been guideline #2 - Disappear!
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The kid was born, then she strangled it. Sounds like murder to me.
But, it's Canada and:
1. Nobody cares about Canada
2. Canada's never contributed anything of any significance to the world anyway - this included.
blasphemy!!! they gave us William Shatner!!!
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blasphemy!!! they gave us William Shatner!!!
Did you ever see his roast? I thought it was funny as hell.
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Did you ever see his roast? I thought it was funny as hell.
yea, it was funny, except for that sack of shit Andy Dick... I can't stand that guy.
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Canada has actually produced quite a few good actors now that I think about it.
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Canada has actually produced quite a few good actors now that I think about it.
true, but gotta neg them 1000 points for giving us celine dion.
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Now, gentlemen; please don't pick on 333386 too much today. He is probably busy defending the GOP debate last night and the
'case of the young man in a coma' - with the cheering crowd in support.
Let's sit back, have some popcorn, and read what 3333 has to say...so he got the abortion idea wrong, we still have a year to go to watch him really crash and burn.
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Now, gentlemen; please don't pick on 333386 too much today. He is probably busy defending the GOP debate last night and the
'case of the young man in a coma' - with the cheering crowd in support.
Let's sit back, have some popcorn, and read what 3333 has to say...so he got the abortion idea wrong, we still have a year to go to watch him really crash and burn.
Colossus and Beach already have threads exposing Obama's lies on this. BTW - I have no problem pulling the plug on someone like that if they are 30 years old and in a coma after a year or so and never coming out.
We simply can't afford to do all things for all people all the time. we are broke.
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Canada has actually produced quite a few good actors now that I think about it.
Yep. Jim Carrey and Mike Myers (if you like comedy).