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This goes along with with that thread I posted trying to explain why a portion of the left would and do support Ron Paul. If enough people switched parties to do this, wow...
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no. getbiggers declared that NO voters who like RP would vote obama and vice versa.
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no. getbiggers declared that NO voters who like RP would vote obama and vice versa.
Since you disagree with almost all of RP's positions on actual issues, I guess somehow you mentally arrange it to feel that way considering your undying love for obama.
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Since you disagree with almost all of RP's positions on actual issues, I guess somehow you mentally arrange it to feel that way considering your undying love for obama.
hey homer, for th 99th time, i would vote rPaul in a minute. I disagree with him on some issues but believe his overall end to corruption outweighs how i feel on other issues. this is now clear to anyone with an 80 IQ. If you continue to harp on it, we'll have no choice but to assume you can't comprehend it.
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hey homer, for th 99th time, i would vote rPaul in a minute. I disagree with him on some issues but believe his overall end to corruption outweighs how i feel on other issues. this is now clear to anyone with an 80 IQ. If you continue to harp on it, we'll have no choice but to assume you can't comprehend it.
I can't comprehend it when people say they support RP, yet on the overwhelming majority of issues they vehemently disagree with him. It makes no sense at all other than one trying to be "cool" or hip or some bs.
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I can't comprehend it when people say they support RP, yet on the overwhelming majority of issues they vehemently disagree with him. It makes no sense at all other than one trying to be "cool" or hip or some bs.
let's say you date a girl that is absolutely 100% batshit crazy. She's a bad mom. She farts and flirts with your friends and makes you pay for everything. She's a bleeding heart lib, and not even that hot. You disagree with her on all the issues/checklist of what you look for in a girl.
But she sucks a mean cawk like nobody's business. It's insane. mind-blowing. Unreal. It's like all the GOP congressmen rolled up into one. We're talking that kind of cocklust. Like she'll die without it.
THAT is ron paul. I disagree with him on many issues, but know the catalyst for change he brings FAR OUTWEIGHS whatever issues i have more in common with other candidates. They are the clean cut educated chicks who make sense on paper but suck in the sack. Make sense?
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let's say you date a girl that is absolutely 100% batshit crazy. She's a bad mom. She farts and flirts with your friends and makes you pay for everything. She's a bleeding heart lib, and not even that hot. You disagree with her on all the issues/checklist of what you look for in a girl.
But she sucks a mean cawk like nobody's business. It's insane. mind-blowing. Unreal. It's like all the GOP congressmen rolled up into one. We're talking that kind of cocklust. Like she'll die without it.
THAT is ron paul. I disagree with him on many issues, but know the catalyst for change he brings FAR OUTWEIGHS whatever issues i have more in common with other candidates. They are the clean cut educated chicks who make sense on paper but suck in the sack. Make sense?
WTF are you talking about?
the catalyst for change he seeks is for everything you and obama are against!
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do i agree with any candidate on every issue? of course not.
do I believe that an actual catalyst for fundamental change - in everything our govt does - would be way mroe important than winning on a few tic tac distraction issues of course.
RPaul is the chick that gives a BJ so good you look past everything else. She changes your world. If you'd ever had a chick like this, then you would konw what i'm talking about. You would toss an educated, rich, classy lady out of bed for a hummer from this trailer slut... THAT kind of amazing head.
Ron paul is exactly that c**ksucker.
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do i agree with any candidate on every issue? of course not.
do I believe that an actual catalyst for fundamental change - in everything our govt does - would be way mroe important than winning on a few tic tac distraction issues of course.
RPaul is the chick that gives a BJ so good you look past everything else. She changes your world. If you'd ever had a chick like this, then you would konw what i'm talking about. You would toss an educated, rich, classy lady out of bed for a hummer from this trailer slut... THAT kind of amazing head.
Ron paul is exactly that c**ksucker.
its not minor issues - you agree with him on ever MAJOR issue.
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its not minor issues - you agree with him on ever MAJOR issue.
i think the overall level of change trumps everything else. And I know there are others who agree with that.
I may criticize a lot of things he does as presiddent, but I understand we, as a nation, have to take our medicine. We have to cut spending and suffer thru a rough period when we do so, for longterm viability.
So barring any major change, I dislike the nickel dime shit the repubs are playing to hook up their masters.
Ron Paul 2012. If you don't understand my explanation, and the dick sucking explanation doesn't help, I don't know what to tell you dog.
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i think the overall level of change trumps everything else. And I know there are others who agree with that.
I may criticize a lot of things he does as presiddent, but I understand we, as a nation, have to take our medicine. We have to cut spending and suffer thru a rough period when we do so, for longterm viability.
So barring any major change, I dislike the nickel dime shit the repubs are playing to hook up their masters.
Ron Paul 2012. If you don't understand my explanation, and the dick sucking explanation doesn't help, I don't know what to tell you dog.
THATS THE SAME GARBAGE THAT BROUGHT US OBAMA FOOL!
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I can't comprehend it when people say they support RP, yet on the overwhelming majority of issues they vehemently disagree with him. It makes no sense at all other than one trying to be "cool" or hip or some bs.
yea, I've actually done my best on different occations to try and explain this to you but you honestly don't seem interested in hearing my opinion on it or anyone elses. LOL that you're dead set against hearing someone explain their personal view on this as though you understand them than they do.
Not sure I even get why you're upset that libs would cross over to vote for Ron Paul. How on earth does that hurt you? Is it a, "how dare they register republican" thing or something? You seem more interested in changing their mind by telling them that they can't possibly support Paul. Why on earth would you so constantly do that? What is the motivation lol?
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yea, I've actually done my best on different occations to try and explain this to you but you honestly don't seem interested in hearing my opinion on it or anyone elses. LOL that you're dead set against hearing someone explain their personal view on this as though you understand them than they do.
Not sure I even get why you're upset that libs would cross over to vote for Ron Paul. How on earth does that hurt you? Is it a, "how dare they register republican" thing or something? You seem more interested in changing their mind by telling them that they can't possibly support Paul. Why on earth would you so constantly do that? What is the motivation lol?
He makes perfect sense. If you disagree with Ron Paul on fiscal policy, foreign policy and domestic policy then why the fuck would you support him? 180 disagrees with him on almost everything.
Now there are democrats who may agree with him on fiscal policy or maybe foreign policy or even domestic and those I could see voting for him. Disagreeing with him on everything while praising Obama's viewpoints at the same time? Not likely that they're voting for him.
180 = bandwagon.
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He makes perfect sense. If you disagree with Ron Paul on fiscal policy, foreign policy and domestic policy then why the fuck would you support him? 180 disagrees with him on almost everything.
Now there are democrats who may agree with him on fiscal policy or maybe foreign policy or even domestic and those I could see voting for him. Disagreeing with him on everything while praising Obama's viewpoints at the same time? Not likely that they're voting for him.
180 = bandwagon.
wasn't talking just about 240. 3333 as he's stated doesn't understand how anyone on the left can support Ron Paul. He really doesn't understand how someone who voted for Obama could possibly like Ron Paul. 3333 is not interested in what anyone has to say about why they would.
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So far what I have heard lacks all sense.
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So far what I have heard lacks all sense.
yea, including why I would vote for Paul... You've made that clear even though I explained extensively and have shown where there are major things the left can align with Paul on. But your only answer to all that is that it lacks all sense ::)
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piece by piece, i disagree with some of Rpaul's positions.
however, I feel that his impact on long term corruption/debt would be MUCH BETTER than that of the others.
That issue trumps all. I don't like the idea of any of tehse canddiates growing debt like crazy (and they all will - even the ryan plan does that).
RPaul will stop that - the rest will not. I could care less aoubt the rest of his issues, if he'll fix the debt.
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3333, here's a question for you... Are there a lot of people on the right that go to the polls on a SINGLE ISSUE such as gun control or abortion? That is they say their single absolute deciding factor is what candidate looks the best on that one issue? The answer is yes. Well ok, how on earth can you nail someone on the left for going Ron Paul when it looks like Paul is the only politician out there who sounds serious about an issue or two that they are single issue voters on? Patriot Act, Civil Liberties, Not going to war without congressional approval and a clear threat to national security etc...
Does it lack all sense that someone go to the polls based solely on abortion or gun control?
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The left are fos. How can you support a guy who on every najor issue is a stake in the heart of everything you believe?
The left loves when rp attacks the gop, but they are too caught up in their glee in the attack on the gop to realize rp is attacking from the right for the gop being too moderate.
So it comes down to pot and some civil liberties issues while 90 percent of everything else they believe in rp destroys?
Please.
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see what I mean, there is no talking to 3333. It's impossible lol... I make an excellent point about single issue voters and point out that they are on the right too which is all well known fact and read 3333's response... ::)
He's over and over asked for it to be explained but you can clearly see he's not really interested in an explanation contrary to his opinion. LOL, he reduces it down to pot when infact I've brough up other major issues that the left and Paul can and do align on... sick...
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see what I mean, there is no talking to 3333. It's impossible lol... I make an excellent point about single issue voters and point out that they are on the right too which is all well known fact and read 3333's response... ::)
He's over and over asked for it to be explained but you can clearly see he's not really interested in an explanation contrary to his opinion. LOL, he reduces it down to pot when infact I've brough up other major issues that the left and Paul can and do align on... sick...
The only single issue voters I know are abortion voters on both sides. most people I know look at the overall picture. The overall picture of Ron Paul is that he is a stake in the heart of what most left wing people believe.
and gmafb about civil liberties. That's pure bs. Progressives are the ones pushing hate speech codes, have crimes laws, seek to ban speakers on colleges, and are horrific on economic rights.
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I love how you're ignoring much of what I've said. There's more issues I've mentioned that you are not. Major issues. There's also the fact that some people are bright enough to know that some of the things Ron Paul stands for, Ron Paul couldn't pull off and even Ron Paul has said that. A smart person could then push for Paul knowing his foreign policy would have real effects while his policy on say abolishing departments and acts would need congress and be harder to deal with. But you don't want to hear any of that...
BUT ABOVE ALL, WOULD YOU PLEASE ANSWER: WHY DO YOU GIVE A FLYING FUCK IF A LIB WANTS TO CROSS OVER AND VOTE FOR PAUL? You seem to have a real hardon against it. LOL, why? I don't get it? What do you fucking care? You must as much as you've attacked the notion....
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I love how you're ignoring much of what I've said. There's more issues I've mentioned that you are not. Major issues.
BUT ABOVE ALL, WOULD YOU PLEASE ANSWER: WHY DO YOU GIVE A FLYING FUCK IF A LIB WANTS TO CROSS OVER AND VOTE FOR PAUL? You seem to have a real hardon against it. LOL, why? I don't get it? What do you fucking care? You must as much as you've attacked the notion....
because it seems insane to vote for someone you agree w on minor issues while that person in literally a death sentence for them on all of the major issues.
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because it seems insane to vote for someone you agree w on minor issues while that person in literally a death sentence for them on all of the major issues.
minor issues? WTF? I've absolutely shown some of the issues they align on are MAJOR issues to progressives. So you just ignore that and call them minor... Really, you think WAR is a minor issue for the left? wow, you are stubborn with a willingness to spin your ass off.
So your hardon against libs voting for Paul is that it seems insane? You're willing to oppose libs doing such a thing over you thinking it's insane... wow... Dude, who fucking gives a shit if a lib wants to vote for Paul. If he feels he's got a reason to do so, that's his fucking business.
That you whine and cry about it so much is what's insane. LOL you'll post on why blacks should only vote republican but god forbid a lib votes Paul ::)
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minor issues? WTF? I've absolutely shown some of the issues they align on are MAJOR issues to progressives. So you just ignore that and call them minor... Really, you think WAR is a minor issue for the left? wow, you are stubborn with a willingness to spin your ass off.
So your hardon against libs voting for Paul is that it seems insane? You're willing to oppose libs doing such a thing over you thinking it's insane... wow... Dude, who fucking gives a shit if a lib wants to vote for Paul. If he feels he's got a reason to do so, that's his fucking business.
That you whine and cry about it so much is what's insane. LOL you'll post on why blacks should only vote republican but god forbid a lib votes Paul ::)
Of course it's good they vote for him, I just think they are doing so based on rp attacking the GOP, not like for most of the issues. I also think it's nonsense to vote for a guy who is against everything you are about, since later on they will freak out when he administers the death penalty to them on the major issues.
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Listen to this from the young turks website:
"Could you explain to me why 4 more years of Barack Obama is desirable to Ron Paul? I voted for Obama, but I fail to see a how a Ron Paul presidency would be net-non-beneficial. Please compare and contrast the pluses and minuses.
I am willing to listen to a cogent defense of Obama as compared to Ron Paul, but it seems like Obama is largely a continuation of the failed policies of George W. Bush"
"Obama cant win without the progressive vote. Ron Paul cant win without left wing support.
Register as a Republican and lets put Ron Paul on the GOP ticket, and let Obama lie in the bed he has made
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"Im a left wing progressive. But I am prioritizing the issues.
The congress is broken and aint gunna be any more unbroken in a couple of years. There is no chance for decent domestic policy to pass for a very long time. Good domestic policy is dead.
But at least we can stop perpetual war and the waste of blood and treasure through Ron Paul.
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"Ron Paul would be fun to have, no way will most of his domestic policy pass for MANY reasons and votes just being one of them. I do believe if he got the chance he would go out by his principles and get the fuck out of every military conflict.
I wonder if I will vote next time around, glad I didn't last time or I would have the smell of whore on my hands"
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From Glenn Greenwald at Salon:
...Ron Paul is far and away the most anti-war, anti-Surveillance-State, anti-crony-capitalism, and anti-drug-war presidential candidate in either party. ...After all, these are critical, not ancillary, positions, such as: genuine opposition to imperialism and wars; warnings about the excesses of the Surveillance State, executive power encroachments, and civil liberties assaults; and attacks on the one policy that is most responsible for the unjustifiable imprisonment of huge numbers of minorities and poor and the destruction of their families and communities: Drug Prohibition and the accompanying War to enforce it.
Progressive comment on the above:
"We need to help out and support Ron Paul in the GOP Primaries, because he is the only person today on the political stage that is willing to put these very serious issues (anti-War, anti-Empire, anti-NAFTA, anti-Corporatism, anti-Central-Bank-Monopoly, anti-Drug-War, anti-Torture, anti-Police-State, etc.) out on the table for public discourse.
If Barack Obama is to be challanged from “the Left” on all these serious issues, it will come only from a Ron Paul GOP Nomination (whereas a Mitt Romney, Perry, or Bachmann nomination will only push Obama further to the right).
I want to see that public debate.
I want to see the Empire (and Obama) squirm as the truth is told.
This Country will never grow-up without such a public debate.
Vote in the GOP primaries for Ron Paul!"
WOW!!!
I’m a progressive whose favorite Presidents were FDR, and John Kennedy (fathered the Medicare legislation which passed in ’64, had the U.S. Treasury print DEBT-Free “United States Notes” in ’63, and sought to withdraw from Vietnam, reform the CIA, and call off the Arms Race).
But I have learned a lot by listening to Ron Paul. The biggest threat to our well being is the Orwellian Warfare State and Central-Bank-Monopoly grip over our Nation (and our Economy). Most all of the corruption that is around us flows from those two sources.
If we could ever smash those two tyrannies down to the ground, it would then be possible to remake our Country again. We would then no longer have to be the victims of a repeating parade of false choices, and the literal destruction of the middle-class
I signed up for a free Ron Paul for President bumper sticker here: http://www.bullion-and-coin.com/ron-paul-2012/
I ordered five Ron Paul for President bumper stickers for $5 here: http://www.ronpaulstickers.com/
And I donated to Ron Paul for President here: http://www.ronpaul.com/
The Democrats have rewarded my decades of loyalty and support with one sell-out after another. I want to see the end of all the wars, including the War on Drugs, the end of the imperial presidency, the restoration of the U.S. Constitution and habeas corpus, and the end of NAFTA, etc. So ironic that Ron Paul, a Republican, is the one who shares my goals.
As a liberal of more years than I want to count, I also find it strange and ironic that I’m supporting Ron Paul. These are strange times, though, and I believe Ron Paul is the best and most viable candidate we’re going to have.
The Ron Paul campaign is asking people to donate tomorrow. This will be a money bomb in honor of his birthday (which may sound hokey, but I’ve pledged to contribute).
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/pages/mbpledge.html?pid=0818
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Here's an excellent post made from one progressive to another when asked why should a woman vote for Ron Paul:
You, and everyone else, are going to need a whole lot more than that if the Federal Reserve Dollar becomes worthless, and Ron Paul is the only person out there addressing that core, economic, life-threatening issue.
But to answer you’re question, why would a woman vote for Ron Paul?
1. Ron Paul won’t get your sons & daughters needlessly slaughtered or mamed in corrupt Military Adventurism (Obama has, and will never stop).
2. Ron Paul will save Trillions of Dollars that are now wasted away overseas, and will prevent the Bankruptcy of America. This, more than anything that Obama has or ever will do, shall make it possible for a social saftey net to continue to exist. Obama will only guarantee its ruin.
3. Ron Paul, unlike Obama, also won’t Bailout Corporate plunderers, and loot the money off of American citizens to ensure billion dollar bonuses for rich CEOs.
4. Ron Paul will end the futile “War on Drugs” which creates the underground market and crime, wastes billions, and needlessly imprisions millions of people.
5. Ron Paul, unlike Obama, will restore Civil Liberties, restore The Bill of Rights, terminate The Patriot Act, and return our Country to a law abiding Nation again.
6. Worrying and being obsessed with abortion is like worrying about Iran having Nukes. It ain’t happening. But even if you are worried: a) Ron Paul is not a “bomb thrower”; he simply advocates that abortion is not the decision of the Federal Government, and that States can decide the issue, b) Since birth control exists in abundance, there are simply far more important issues here to deal with than this (matters of War and Economic ruin), c) Adoption is the more humane and ethical way of handling an unwanted birth anyway.
7. Ron Paul will end NAFTA, and these other corrupt “managed Trade” policies that have totally destroyed American Manufacturing. An economic renaissance will never be possible without doing this? Will Obama end NAFTA? answer: No.
8. Lastly, watch this Video:
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3333, read through the various comments from progressives I've posted above, still think that they are insane or that from their perspective they have valid reasons for picking Paul?
http://progressivesforronpaul.blogspot.com/
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Freedom brings people together.
RP
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because it seems insane to vote for someone you agree w on minor issues while that person in literally a death sentence for them on all of the major issues.
says the guy who supported mitt, trump, and perry - all lifetime libs who put on tea party pajamas.
you sucked their penii faster than a diaabetic in a candy factory.
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bump for that homo 333... The fucking cu nt once again bails and brings up the shit in another thread like none of this was ever posted ::)
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bump for that homo 333... The fucking cu nt once again bails and brings up the shit in another thread like none of this was ever posted ::)
LMFAO - are you kidding? The "progressives" are showing themselves to be pussies by not primarying obama in the demo party.
Instead of doing the hard work and taking out obama in a primary - they think they can jump ship to RP ? and then what? After Ron Paul - then what? Back to the demos?
GMAFB - you "progressives" are so short sighted its not even funny.