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Title: Michelle Obama now tied into Kaiser and Solyndra Scandal. Impeachment?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 18, 2011, 07:33:37 PM

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A Daily Caller review of the George Kaiser Family Foundation’s income tax returns found that during the same year billionaire investor George Kaiser successfully secured $535 million in government loan guarantees for the now-failed solar panel manufacturer Solyndra, his private philanthropy donated to a political cause close to the hearts of several high-ranking Obama administration officials. Kaiser, a major Obama donor, was a frequent White House visitor during the week before the Obama administration approved that taxpayer-underwritten financial deal.

A $10,000 donation to the Urban Health Initiative at the University of Chicago Medical Center appears on the group’s 2009 tax forms. It was also in 2009 that Kaiser successfully sought to lock down a loan guarantee for the green-energy company Solyndra through his two investment vehicles: Argonaut Ventures and the GKFF Investment Company.

While this donation seems small compared to the far larger numbers involved in the Solyndra scandal, it adds to the pattern of possible connections between the Obama administration and the growing Solyndra scandal.

Several of President Barack Obama’s senior inner-circle advisers worked with or for now-first lady Michelle Obama when she held a leadership post at the University of Chicago Medical Center and helped create the Urban Health Initiative program. The Washington Post reported in 2008 that Valerie Jarrett was the medical center’s chairwoman, and David Axelrod provided community support-building services.

“One of Barack’s best friends, Eric Whitaker, is executive vice president at the center and is now in charge of the Urban Health Initiative,” the Post added in the year Obama was elected to the presidency. Whitaker is still in that role today.

George Kaiser’s four White House visits during the week before Solyndra secured its $535 million loan guarantee — and his $53,500 in donations to the president’s 2008 presidential campaign – have drawn scrutiny from critics questioning whether the Obama administration engaged in political favoritism. Now Kaiser’s philanthropic gift to one of Michelle Obama’s public health projects is another indication of what may amount to a White House fully engaged in crony capitalism.

“This tax document clearly shows that George Kaiser greased the wheels to gain favor with the Obama Administration for the purpose of receiving a half-billion dollar taxpayer-funded loan for Solyndra,” Citizens United president David Bossie told The Daily Caller. “It is evident that this was a pay-to-play scheme that reaches all the way up to the highest levels of the White House.”

Bossie, a former special investigator during the Clinton administration, told TheDC that a bold and aggressive congressional investigation is necessary.

“The American people deserve to know the facts of this case,” he said. “Congressional investigators need to dig into this scandal, as we know the politicized Department of Justice cannot be trusted.”

As TheDC reported last week, Solyndra applied for $469 million in additional loan guarantees in 2009. It is unclear whether that second application was approved, and it’s also unclear at what point point during 2009 the Kaiser Family Foundation made the grant in question.

The foundation rarely donates to organizations or causes outside its home state of Oklahoma.

Kaiser Family Foundation officials did not respond to requests from TheDC for more information about the reasons for making the one-time grant. The White House also did not respond to TheDC’s request for comment.

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Title: Re: Michelle Obama now tied into Kaiser and Solyndra Scandal. Impeachment?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 18, 2011, 07:56:46 PM
come on blacken straw andandre.     Defend this. 
Title: Re: Michelle Obama now tied into Kaiser and Solyndra Scandal. Impeachment?
Post by: OzmO on September 18, 2011, 08:02:07 PM
Washington is rife with bullshit like this.  You really thnk this is something new?

But, yeah, let's keep' money in politics, so that the gun lobby can keep the second amendment from being scratched from the constitution.
Title: Re: Michelle Obama now tied into Kaiser and Solyndra Scandal. Impeachment?
Post by: Fury on September 18, 2011, 08:04:49 PM
Washington is rife with bullshit like this.  You really thnk this is something new?

But, yeah, let's keep' money in politics, so that the gun lobby can keep the second amendment from being scratched from the constitution.

So let's justify it. Makes sense.  ::)

This seems to be the underlying motif of Obama's presidency. "Well, everyone else did it so I can, too." Also seems to be your way of assigning zero blame to Obama.

Got old about three weeks after he took office.
Title: Re: Michelle Obama now tied into Kaiser and Solyndra Scandal. Impeachment?
Post by: OzmO on September 18, 2011, 08:08:47 PM
I ain't justifying jack shit.

If you have been paying god dam attention I am for pulling all money out of politics.

33333 pointing this one instant out is about as meaningful as an apology from the 19 hijackers.  It's about as useful as a 4 bit modem.  

But yeah let's rail on about the latest puupet democrats in office so that when the repubs get in we act like it doesn't happen.  Just like when Bush spread America's butt cheaks and let the bank ram it in.
Title: Re: Michelle Obama now tied into Kaiser and Solyndra Scandal. Impeachment?
Post by: Fury on September 18, 2011, 08:12:17 PM
I ain't justifying jack shit.

If you have been paying god dam attention I am for pulling all money out of politics.

33333 pointing this one instant out is about as meaningful as an apology from the 19 hijackers.  It's about as useful as a 4 bit modem.  

But yeah let's rail on about the latest puupet democrats in office so that when the repubs get in we act like it doesn't happen.  Just like when Bush spread America's butt cheaks and let the bank ram it in.

Thanks for doubling down on my post. You're again justifying it. You've been doing this in every 333 thread lately. Trying to stifle any discussion of the issue by coming in and making some snarky remark about how "everyone else does it so whatever".

Nothing to see hear, folks. Move along. They did it so Obama can. Thread closed. Back to talking about Palin's life 20 years ago and what Bachmann eats for lunch.
Title: Re: Michelle Obama now tied into Kaiser and Solyndra Scandal. Impeachment?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 18, 2011, 08:17:33 PM
I ain't justifying jack shit.

If you have been paying god dam attention I am for pulling all money out of politics.

33333 pointing this one instant out is about as meaningful as an apology from the 19 hijackers.  It's about as useful as a 4 bit modem.  

But yeah let's rail on about the latest puupet democrats in office so that when the repubs get in we act like it doesn't happen.  Just like when Bush spread America's butt cheaks and let the bank ram it in.

LMFAO!!!!     blame bush - fail. 
Title: Re: Michelle Obama now tied into Kaiser and Solyndra Scandal. Impeachment?
Post by: OzmO on September 18, 2011, 08:20:18 PM
Thanks for doubling down on my post. You're again justifying it. You've been doing this in every 333 thread lately. Trying to stifle any discussion of the issue by coming in and making some snarky remark about how "everyone else does it so whatever".

Nothing to see hear, folks. Move along. They did it so Obama can. Thread closed. Back to talking about Palin's life 20 years ago and what Bachmann eats for lunch.

Because many of 33333. Threads lately have been fucking stupid.  Like putting feet on the desk? 

And if you concluded that I am justifying it from my post you are fucking idiot. 
Title: Re: Michelle Obama now tied into Kaiser and Solyndra Scandal. Impeachment?
Post by: Skip8282 on September 18, 2011, 08:22:11 PM
Thanks for doubling down on my post. You're again justifying it. You've been doing this in every 333 thread lately. Trying to stifle any discussion of the issue by coming in and making some snarky remark about how "everyone else does it so whatever".

Nothing to see hear, folks. Move along. They did it so Obama can. Thread closed. Back to talking about Palin's life 20 years ago and what Bachmann eats for lunch.



lol, Guideline #12 in full swing.

I've come to believe that some people have a great deal of difficulty handling a multitude and variety of issues ranging from the non-serious to the most serious.  I guess the only topics on the board should be the most serious and nothing else.  IDK - given up trying to understand the insane.

As to the thread, I think we'll see a lot more people being named.  Seems Scandalyndra was very very well politically connected.
Title: Re: Michelle Obama now tied into Kaiser and Solyndra Scandal. Impeachment?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 18, 2011, 08:23:24 PM
Because many of 33333. Threads lately have been fucking stupid.  Like putting feet on the desk? 

And if you concluded that I am justifying it from my post you are fucking idiot. 

absolutely.   You show little or no outrage at the real scandals I post on and harp on the silly shit I post.  

Title: Re: Michelle Obama now tied into Kaiser and Solyndra Scandal. Impeachment?
Post by: OzmO on September 18, 2011, 08:24:38 PM
LMFAO!!!!     blame bush - fail. 

Yeah what ever tool time.   ::)


So he didn't ok a 400 billion bail out of the banks followed by a 1.2 trillion secret bail out?   Oh yeah, he gets a free pass because he was a lame duck.  



The whole fucking place is corrupt!  Repubs and dems.  


Can you get that through your obsessed think head?
Title: Re: Michelle Obama now tied into Kaiser and Solyndra Scandal. Impeachment?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 18, 2011, 08:25:55 PM
Yeah what ever tool time.   ::)


So he didn't ok a 400 billion bail out of the banks followed by a 1.2 trillion secret bail out?   Oh yeah, he gets a free pass because he was a lame duck.  



The whole fucking place is corrupt!  Repubs and dems.  

Can you get that through your obsessed think head?


so let's act like Obama pissing away 500 million is no biggie right? 
Title: Re: Michelle Obama now tied into Kaiser and Solyndra Scandal. Impeachment?
Post by: OzmO on September 18, 2011, 08:26:22 PM
absolutely.   You show little or no outrage at the real scandals I post on and harp on the silly shit I post.  



And I haven't?   ::)


Look back at the original solydra thread you tool.   ::)
Title: Re: Michelle Obama now tied into Kaiser and Solyndra Scandal. Impeachment?
Post by: Fury on September 18, 2011, 08:26:53 PM

so let's act like Obama pissing away 500 million is no biggie right? 

Didn't you hear? Bush fucked up so Obama is allowed to destroy the country. After all, it's only "fair".  ::)

Title: Re: Michelle Obama now tied into Kaiser and Solyndra Scandal. Impeachment?
Post by: OzmO on September 18, 2011, 08:28:01 PM

so let's act like Obama pissing away 500 million is no biggie right? 

Did I say that on Solydra thread?  Did I say that here?

Or is this more of your dumb ass trying to make an argument here?  You are being pathetic bro.
Title: Re: Michelle Obama now tied into Kaiser and Solyndra Scandal. Impeachment?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 18, 2011, 08:28:21 PM
Didn't you hear? Bush fucked up so Obama is allowed to destroy the country. After all, it's only "fair".  ::)



it's incredible.  bush, who left in disgrace, is now the standard.  
Title: Re: Michelle Obama now tied into Kaiser and Solyndra Scandal. Impeachment?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 18, 2011, 08:30:16 PM
Did I say that on Solydra thread?  Did I say that here?

Or is this more of your dumb ass trying to make an argument here?  You are being pathetic bro.

saying "they all do it" is a cop out and diversion from the issue at and.   
Title: Re: Michelle Obama now tied into Kaiser and Solyndra Scandal. Impeachment?
Post by: OzmO on September 18, 2011, 08:31:47 PM
saying "they all do it" is a cop out and diversion from the issue at and.   

No it isn't, it's attempting to address the real problems not the symptoms.
Title: Re: Michelle Obama now tied into Kaiser and Solyndra Scandal. Impeachment?
Post by: George Whorewell on September 19, 2011, 02:25:19 AM
No it isn't, it's attempting to address the real problems not the symptoms.

The second amendment didn't get scratched from the constitution because of the Supreme Court numb nuts. The gun lobby is irrelevant in that regard.

And your noble quest to assign blame to both parties overlooks the obvious-- One party has been in power over two thirds of the legislative branch since 06, over the entirety of the legislature since 08 and still holds a two thirds majority today.

If the best you can do is point to the Bush bailouts of three years ago ( which had bi partisan support) as evidence that both parties are corrupt, that is an extremely weak argument.

Islamic terrorism is happening right now. Using the crusades as evidence that all religions are violent is an equally inept argument.
Title: Re: Michelle Obama now tied into Kaiser and Solyndra Scandal. Impeachment?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 19, 2011, 05:31:06 AM
Because many of 33333. Threads lately have been fucking stupid.  Like putting feet on the desk? 

And if you concluded that I am justifying it from my post you are fucking idiot. 

I already told you - go through my threads - at least 85% are serious ones, the rest are silly shit. 

The serious ones, like this one, the typical oblahblah voters avoid like the plague and gravitate to the stupid ones to avoid facing the reality of threads like this and the deep shit we are in.   
Title: Re: Michelle Obama now tied into Kaiser and Solyndra Scandal. Impeachment?
Post by: OzmO on September 19, 2011, 07:17:57 AM
I already told you - go through my threads - at least 85% are serious ones, the rest are silly shit. 

The serious ones, like this one, the typical oblahblah voters avoid like the plague and gravitate to the stupid ones to avoid facing the reality of threads like this and the deep shit we are in.   

And yet you keep paying these stupid threads complaining peeps don't talk about the serious ones.  Lol
Title: Re: Michelle Obama now tied into Kaiser and Solyndra Scandal. Impeachment?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 19, 2011, 07:21:18 AM
And yet you keep paying these stupid threads complaining peeps don't talk about the serious ones.  Lol

Thats an observation more than a complaint as their silence speaks volumes. 

Now MoBacca the Hut is involved in the Solyndra scandal? 

This ship is going down hard and if the demos know what is good for them - they will force the manchild POTUS to step down, let Biden take over, and let Hillary run in 2012.  If they don't, 2010 is going to look like nothing compared to whats coming. 
 
Title: Re: Michelle Obama now tied into Kaiser and Solyndra Scandal. Impeachment?
Post by: OzmO on September 19, 2011, 07:25:17 AM
The second amendment didn't get scratched from the constitution because of the Supreme Court numb nuts. The gun lobby is irrelevant in that regard.
And your noble quest to assign blame to both parties overlooks the obvious-- One party has been in power over two thirds of the legislative branch since 06, over the entirety of the legislature since 08 and still holds a two thirds majority today.
If the best you can do is point to the Bush bailouts of three years ago ( which had bi partisan support) as evidence that both parties are corrupt, that is an extremely weak argument.
Islamic terrorism is happening right now. Using the crusades as evidence that all religions are violent is an equally inept argument.
What are you talking about with with the second amendment?  I brought the second amendment

up because of something 333333 said a long time ago on anther thread.

The Bush bailouts It happened 3 years ago, not 1000 years ago George.  ::)

And are you trying to tell me this kinD of thing, (i will get you what you need in washington if you do won't need elsewhere) only happens with democrats? Right.

Money in politics is the root problem here.  
Title: Re: Michelle Obama now tied into Kaiser and Solyndra Scandal. Impeachment?
Post by: OzmO on September 19, 2011, 07:28:15 AM
Thats an observation more than a complaint as their silence speaks volumes. 

Now MoBacca the Hut is involved in the Solyndra scandal? 

This ship is going down hard and if the demos know what is good for them - they will force the manchild POTUS to step down, let Biden take over, and let Hillary run in 2012.  If they don't, 2010 is going to look like nothing compared to whats coming. 
 

It's not going down hard.  The vast majority of Americans have no clue and many that.do are dem tools. 

And these dems will never acknowledge shit.  So what's the point?  Oh yeah being funny.....ha ha.
Title: Re: Michelle Obama now tied into Kaiser and Solyndra Scandal. Impeachment?
Post by: kcballer on September 19, 2011, 11:58:26 AM
But what did Michelle say?
Title: Re: Michelle Obama now tied into Kaiser and Solyndra Scandal. Impeachment?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 19, 2011, 12:11:41 PM
But what did Michelle say?

She said: 

"Hey Barry - now that you are going toh ave only 1 term - think the girls and I can go blow a few more million on another greesy, gauwdy, and garish vacation on the taxpayer dollar?"
Title: Re: Michelle Obama now tied into Kaiser and Solyndra Scandal. Impeachment?
Post by: 240 is Back on September 19, 2011, 12:14:09 PM
She said: 

"Hey Barry - now that you are going toh ave only 1 term - think the girls and I can go blow a few more million on another greesy, gauwdy, and garish vacation on the taxpayer dollar?"

That's one theory.  Just like a lot of other people.  Without an audio feed, none of us knows what she said.

Anyone who claims to "know" what she said is just confused.
Title: Re: Michelle Obama now tied into Kaiser and Solyndra Scandal. Impeachment?
Post by: Skip8282 on September 19, 2011, 02:22:05 PM
What are you talking about with with the second amendment?  I brought the second amendment

up because of something 333333 said a long time ago on anther thread.

The Bush bailouts It happened 3 years ago, not 1000 years ago George.  ::)

And are you trying to tell me this kinD of thing, (i will get you what you need in washington if you do won't need elsewhere) only happens with democrats? Right.

Money in politics is the root problem here.   




Money is not the root problem.  Honesty, integrity, dignity, etc., are the root problems.  Removing money is not going stop cronyism, nepotism, favoritism, etc.

IMO, firm, set term limits will probably go much further and provide less incentive to be corrupt than anything else.  Well, that and a more educated, less apathetic public.
Title: Re: Michelle Obama now tied into Kaiser and Solyndra Scandal. Impeachment?
Post by: OzmO on September 19, 2011, 02:36:53 PM



Money is not the root problem.  Honesty, integrity, dignity, etc., are the root problems.  Removing money is not going stop cronyism, nepotism, favoritism, etc.

IMO, firm, set term limits will probably go much further and provide less incentive to be corrupt than anything else.  Well, that and a more educated, less apathetic public.

Good point.

And that's probably the best solution. 

Title: Re: Michelle Obama now tied into Kaiser and Solyndra Scandal. Impeachment?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 19, 2011, 02:47:28 PM
Daily Caller Draws Michelle Obama Connection to Solyndra
Fox News ^ | September 19, 2011 | By Matthew Boyle



A Daily Caller review of the George Kaiser Family Foundation’s income tax returns found that during the same year billionaire investor George Kaiser successfully secured $535 million in government loan guarantees for the now-failed solar panel manufacturer Solyndra, his private philanthropy donated to a political cause close to the hearts of several high-ranking Obama administration officials.

A $10,000 donation to the Urban Health Initiative at the University of Chicago Medical Center appears on the group’s 2009 tax forms. It was also in 2009 that Kaiser successfully sought to lock down a loan guarantee for the green-energy company Solyndra through his two investment vehicles: Argonaut Ventures and the GKFF Investment Company.

Several of President Barack Obama’s senior inner-circle advisers worked with or for now-first lady Michelle Obama when she held a leadership post at the University of Chicago Medical Center and helped create the Urban Health Initiative program.

(Excerpt) Read more at nation.foxnews.com ...


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