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...is not Phil Heath. Phil is good and deserves his Olympia win this year. To crown him as the best of all time, when he has never won the Arnold and has only won 4 pro shows (Colorado, NY, NOC and Olympia) is totally premature. If Phil goes on to win several more Olympias and some Arnolds in commanding fashion, then maybe, just maybe, you can make an argument for him.
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Best bodybuilders of all time = Coleman 1998-99 - Nassér 94-95 - Dorian1993-96 - Férigno 80 S - Lévrone Kévin - Zane & harlond schwarzenegger
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For some reason, I think a lot of the best of the best would say that Flex Wheeler was the best bodybuilder of all time. Not the GREATEST (that would be Arnold), but the Best.
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(http://www.picvalley.net/u/2253/149157125011375609631316470961Rnqi6GMULY9J8fk8gG0R.JPG) (http://www.picvalley.net/v.php?p=u/2253/149157125011375609631316470961Rnqi6GMULY9J8fk8gG0R.JPG)
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For some reason, I think a lot of the best of the best would say that Flex Wheeler was the best bodybuilder of all time. Not the GREATEST (that would be Arnold), but the Best.
you are a donkey , a lot of garbage (oil) séo in frex arms - shouldérS & calfs
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there is only one king in bodybuilding= dorian yates
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(http://www.picvalley.net/u/2253/149157125011375609631316470961Rnqi6GMULY9J8fk8gG0R.JPG) (http://www.picvalley.net/v.php?p=u/2253/149157125011375609631316470961Rnqi6GMULY9J8fk8gG0R.JPG)
Ronnie Coleman structure = garbage
Horrible.
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Ronnie Coleman structure = garbage
Horrible.
lol
get the fuck out
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lol
get the fuck out
Thank you for proving my point.
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Flex? Please cmon, why the fuck NO ONE mentions Lee Haney in those threads? He was big, ripped, excellent structure, dense muscle, everything. Somewhat reminiscent of Sergio Oliva who is also overlooked too often.
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Thank you for proving my point.
that's why he looks 20x better than flex right? ::) so called 'most aesthetic' 90s bber
ron has the dominating chest that a mr o should have, along with the arms.. and legs.. and most importantly - back. and you say he has shitty structure? ??? ??? ???
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Best bodybuilder of all time...
According to the I.F.B.B judging criteria - Dorian at the 1995 Olympia and 1996 German Grand Prix
By number of wins - Ronnie - same number of Olympias as Lee Haney, but with many more wins on other pro shows
Popular Opinion - Arnold or Ronnie
Bodybuilding ideal - Wheeler at the 1993 Ironman Pro or Sergio Oliva at the 1967 Olympia
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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which look do
you prefer
pedro
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ronnie dorian everybody else sucks and takes steroids
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Frank Zane gets the nod because he is a true bodybuilder - a craftsman and a sculptor. He is one of the few competitive bodybuilders who knew the limits of how much size he ought to carry and how to present himself to make himself look even better.
People go on about Flex Wheeler but anything after 1993 and you are talking about a sack of bubble plastic. He is not a bodybuilder in the classical sense. He destroyed his physique, like so many of the current generation, but simply going for size. If he had stuck with what he had in 1993 and worked on detail while adding a little bit of size each year, he would have been something special.
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you are a donkey , a lot of garbage (oil) séo in frex arms - shouldérS & calfs
Not so much calves...but Flex in 93, was something that even Arnold was in awe of.
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...is not Phil Heath. Phil is good and deserves his Olympia win this year. To crown him as the best of all time, when he has never won the Arnold and has only won 4 pro shows (Colorado, NY, NOC and Olympia) is totally premature. If Phil goes on to win several more Olympias and some Arnolds in commanding fashion, then maybe, just maybe, you can make an argument for him.
I don't think Phil is the greatest of all time , The Olympia is the most prestigious title in bodybuilding forget the Arnold and people all try and fluff up Shawn Ray as one of the best of all time and he never won and Olympia and only won two pro shows in his entire career
by virtue of winning the Olympia Heath is already established himself as one of the best of all-time because he accomplished something very few others have. Technically speaking Ronnie Coleman is the best bodybuilder of all-time , he tied Lee Haney for most Olympia wins and he won more pro shows than anyone else , so until Phil ( or anyone else ) beats that he's a LONG way off from being mentioned as the best of all-time
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lol
get the fuck out
those pictures are something youll never see again ,, ron colman show there the condition of dorian yates,,very close... and the size of sheer muscle diamater no one ever displayed on ifbb profesional stage,, his actual conditoned size there ,,his OWN legit size enhanced by hormones but its his size no seo...and no mega dosing insulina....his own legit size is surpassing anything youll ever see ,, not even lionel whatever his name is,,
i just do not think a ron colman will ever be seen ,, it takes a specific fella with specific build to go through powerlifting and maintain his build with no injurys and go into bodybuild and train like powerlifter and combine it both and respond tremendesly to the hormones and build foundation with aas and go to hgh and then introduce insulina instages,, everything fell right for ron colman ...he didnt rize up super fast he was just there like bobbie...but ron colman responded tremendesly to hormones and training at the abolit max of the max of responders and this was after! he already had base of powerlifting and really liked weight lifting,, ...it just something that come once every 200-300 years,, i doubt you will see it ever again ,,
dorian was great yes amazing condition ,, but ron colman ....this is just alien ,, something you wont see again ,,
def the best bodybuild ever on planet earth with arnold there more for the spirit and for what he did for bodybuild...but ron colman hold this title and is far far ahead of the other top 5 who make top 6 bodybuilders ever
gh15 approved
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notice the face...notice how lean ron colman face is ,, notice the usage of insulina at the 90s waas lower with him ,, he didnt just abuse it ...he came in lean leaaaaan peeled shreded with sucked in face,, those times is what bodybuild is missing the most because that face on colman is what bodybuilder face should look like when go on stage,, this is long gone since 90s ,,today its only the smaler fellas who get to this kind of face leaness,, back then we all had it ,,
just look into his face how much leaner it is than the others who are LEAN in the face but already used higher doses insulina,, he just exploded the insulina into 2003...and you see what happeend 290 lb 5'11 fella on stage!! when he used high doses insulina... and still he brought the condition i dont know how he pulled it but insulina didnt take a lot from his condition ,, he is just once in a million bodybuilder...rare,, and he liked lifting and liked lifting very very heavy ,, he really lifted in the gym ,, he DID NOT TRAIN TO BE A BODYBUILDER HE TRAINED BECAUSE HE LIKED TRAINING,, he liked looking like bodybuilder but it wasnt about competitions this is how he was discovered,, it was all amaturish in his eyes while he already had the physiqe of a mr o! he enter the gymnasium in texas and from the moment he put a leg in it the owner recognized he was mr o ,, it wasnt like the owner there saw a fella that has potential....HE WAS MR O ,, he looekd that impressive upon first meeting that first day,, he didnt try ...it was just him on hormones and years of heavy lifting ,, as simple as that ...then he got all the tuning and the rest is history ...
should have won o atleast 9 times ,,but it wotn matter 8 times 5 times wont matter,, one look at him tell you he was much ahead of the others
look how dry ....how hard...how seperated ...how developed each muscle group is,, everything is sliced and hard no water between skin and muscle and no fat within the muscle,, dry sucked in face,, this is just not human ,, his body LOVED HORMONES and really really responded VERY WELL TO BASICS
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...is not Phil Heath. Phil is good and deserves his Olympia win this year. To crown him as the best of all time, when he has never won the Arnold and has only won 4 pro shows (Colorado, NY, NOC and Olympia) is totally premature. If Phil goes on to win several more Olympias and some Arnolds in commanding fashion, then maybe, just maybe, you can make an argument for him.
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dont worry dorian yates is top 6 bodybuild sit there comfortably eating icecream ,, not to worry about him he is just fine,, his conditon was great ,,its just that conditioned size was lighter than ron ,, and muscle shape was not as freaky ,,no one is as freaky ,, ron colman is just not human like when ti come to muscle shape it is not only freaky but its nasty meteor edges and combo between square and round in the exact right places,, its like jap animation mutation with really really good black stucture and genetic frame,,
he had all the roundenss and squariness in the right places,, usualy you have either or ...when you go low bodyfat you become squary ....when higher bodyfat more round...with him it was not the case...he became squary in some places and remained round in others,,
he had the best bodybuild genetics EVER,, any bodybuilder will tell you that,, it is just unheard of with 99.99 % of bodybuilders
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Best bodybuilders of all time = Coleman 1998-99 - Nassér 94-95 - Dorian1993-96 - Férigno 80 S - Lévrone Kévin - Zane & harlond schwarzenegger
im in a shitty enough mood as it is but I gotta say I agree man. also gh15 said kev has best body ever ;) maybe not best bodybuilder but best body! ;D
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Serge Nubret without a doubt .... Perfection
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According to the I.F.B.B judging criteria - Dorian at the 1995 Olympia and 1996 German Grand Prix
By number of wins - Ronnie - same number of Olympias as Lee Haney, but with many more wins on other pro shows
Popular Opinion - Arnold or Ronnie
Bodybuilding ideal - Wheeler at the 1993 Ironman Pro or Sergio Oliva at the 1967 Olympia
SUCKMYMUSCLE
This is actually a good post...
and according to me:
Zyzz
:D
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This is actually a good post...
and according to me:
Zyzz
:D
Thats just most successful competitor!
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Serge Nubret without a doubt .... Perfection
he looked amazing, as close to perfection as a human being could be yes, but I really think his waiste was too small personally.
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he looked amazing, as close to perfection as a human being could be yes, but I really think his waiste was too small personally.
so you prefer he shat bigger turds?
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he looked amazing, as close to perfection as a human being could be yes, but I really think his waiste was too small personally.
No such thing. He was a shade under 15 stone. Was THE greatest bodybuilding illusionist of them all.
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those pictures are something youll never see again ,, ron colman show there the condition of dorian yates,,very close... and the size of sheer muscle diamater no one ever displayed on ifbb profesional stage,, his actual conditoned size there ,,his OWN legit size enhanced by hormones but its his size no seo...and no mega dosing insulina....his own legit size is surpassing anything youll ever see ,, not even lionel whatever his name is,,
i just do not think a ron colman will ever be seen ,, it takes a specific fella with specific build to go through powerlifting and maintain his build with no injurys and go into bodybuild and train like powerlifter and combine it both and respond tremendesly to the hormones and build foundation with aas and go to hgh and then introduce insulina instages,, everything fell right for ron colman ...he didnt rize up super fast he was just there like bobbie...but ron colman responded tremendesly to hormones and training at the abolit max of the max of responders and this was after! he already had base of powerlifting and really liked weight lifting,, ...it just something that come once every 200-300 years,, i doubt you will see it ever again ,,
dorian was great yes amazing condition ,, but ron colman ....this is just alien ,, something you wont see again ,,
def the best bodybuild ever on planet earth with arnold there more for the spirit and for what he did for bodybuild...but ron colman hold this title and is far far ahead of the other top 5 who make top 6 bodybuilders ever
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True, Ronnie, Dorian, Arnold, Jay, any other Mr. Olympia you can think of was the true meaning of what bodybuilding should be... years of hard work, dedication, basically the guys who not only have probably been training harder, dieting longer, with better genetics, and the balls to gear up and build a true foundation for competition, but patient enough to go through things in stages.
Yeah, the problem with Phil Heath is, he grew way too fast, but the era he is ushering in is one where anyone can blow up overnight and be admired and respected as far as they are good responders to drugs. That's why bodybuilding will soon become, and before you know it, it will become considerably faster more easy than Phil Heath to get to your maximum genetic potential with drugs..
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My top 6 of all time:
Shawn Ray-1996
Arnold Schwarzenegger-1973
Flex Wheeler-1993
Samir Bannout-1983
Dorian Yates-1996
Ronnie Coleman-1998
No particular order
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Frank Zane gets the nod because he is a true bodybuilder - a craftsman and a sculptor. He is one of the few competitive bodybuilders who knew the limits of how much size he ought to carry and how to present himself to make himself look even better.
People go on about Flex Wheeler but anything after 1993 and you are talking about a sack of bubble plastic. He is not a bodybuilder in the classical sense. He destroyed his physique, like so many of the current generation, but simply going for size. If he had stuck with what he had in 1993 and worked on detail while adding a little bit of size each year, he would have been something special.
Frank "twist my hips in every pic" zane is an ovverated twink.
Flex wheeler destroys him
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Frank "twist my hips in every pic" zane is an ovverated twink.
Flex wheeler destroys him
Flex was amazing in '93, specially the AC and the Ironman. But after that, he was overated.
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Flex was amazing in '93, specially the AC and the Ironman. But after that, he was overated.
yeah, oil and conditioning.
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ronnie dorian everybody else sucks and takes steroids
They were the last two natural Mr. Olympias.
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those pictures are something youll never see again ,, ron colman show there the condition of dorian yates,,very close... and the size of sheer muscle diamater no one ever displayed on ifbb profesional stage,, his actual conditoned size there ,,his OWN legit size enhanced by hormones but its his size no seo...and no mega dosing insulina....his own legit size is surpassing anything youll ever see ,, not even lionel whatever his name is,,
i just do not think a ron colman will ever be seen ,, it takes a specific fella with specific build to go through powerlifting and maintain his build with no injurys and go into bodybuild and train like powerlifter and combine it both and respond tremendesly to the hormones and build foundation with aas and go to hgh and then introduce insulina instages,, everything fell right for ron colman ...he didnt rize up super fast he was just there like bobbie...but ron colman responded tremendesly to hormones and training at the abolit max of the max of responders and this was after! he already had base of powerlifting and really liked weight lifting,, ...it just something that come once every 200-300 years,, i doubt you will see it ever again ,,
dorian was great yes amazing condition ,, but ron colman ....this is just alien ,, something you wont see again ,,
def the best bodybuild ever on planet earth with arnold there more for the spirit and for what he did for bodybuild...but ron colman hold this title and is far far ahead of the other top 5 who make top 6 bodybuilders ever
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Frank "twist my hips in every pic" zane is an ovverated twink.
Flex wheeler destroys him
Wheeler would have destroyed Zane had he not destroyed his own phsyique after 1993.
Wheeler may have been a freak genetically but he had no sense for cradftsmanship and THAT, monsieur, is why Wheeler can never compare to Zane.
The closest bodybuilder to Zane these days is Dexter. He screwed up a little with the calf thing a few years ago but he stopped that and never let his physique go beyond what it looks best as.
The result? He won an Olympia...
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who gives a shit how long anyone trained? how hard they worked? how much they suffered? bodybuilding is about having an awesome body, not being an ascetic. ::)
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who gives a shit how long anyone trained? how hard they worked? how much they suffered? bodybuilding is about having an awesome body, not being an ascetic. ::)
I agree ,you don have to be ascetic to be a bodybuilder.
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I agree ,you don have to be ascetic to be a bodybuilder.
Sure, but you have to be aesthetic.
Otherwise you'd just be a strongman with low bodyfat.
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the posts gh15 put in this thread are my fav.of any posts he put on getbig and most true,i am so glad at least he understand ronnie didnt use the synthol and have to abuse insulin,which goes to show that not all top pros take and do everything the same like lot of dipshits believe.day will come when a bodybuilder takes time to build foundation and then add in all the extras and crush the current crop,maybe he wont have ronnie coleman genes,but because of foundation and not abuse slin he will crush the rest.
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coleman has a weird ab structure....a massive MINUS
no one which such ab structure can be the greatest ever...no matter how good the rest is. instant disqualification
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They were the last two natural Mr. Olympias.
LMAO ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Serge Nubret without a doubt .... Perfection
I always notice huge fans of Nubret only post front shots lol very good physique but perfection I'm afraid not
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1.Steve Reeves
2.Frank Zane
3.Bob Paris
4.Serge Nubret
5.Kozo Sudo/Anibal Lopez/Steve Davies
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frank sane sucks he took steroids weinners don't need steroids
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Frank Zane gets the nod because he is a true bodybuilder - a craftsman and a sculptor. He is one of the few competitive bodybuilders who knew the limits of how much size he ought to carry and how to present himself to make himself look even better.
People go on about Flex Wheeler but anything after 1993 and you are talking about a sack of bubble plastic. He is not a bodybuilder in the classical sense. He destroyed his physique, like so many of the current generation, but simply going for size. If he had stuck with what he had in 1993 and worked on detail while adding a little bit of size each year, he would have been something special.
the above in bold is an excuse as zane couldnt get bigger so there is a the aesthetics argument. zane was a swimmer
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the above in bold is an excuse as zane couldnt get bigger so there is a the aesthetics argument. zane was a swimmer
I don't doubt this is true with a lot of pros, but in Zane's case, he focused in his condition, I mean, he was 3 times Mr. O and he defeated bigger guys. He wasn't just a small aesthetic guy. Anyway, just my opinion.
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Ronnie Coleman
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the above in bold is an excuse as zane couldnt get bigger so there is a the aesthetics argument. zane was a swimmer
Hogwash.
I'm talking about a mentality. Arnold was a much bigger guy and yet he too worked on crafting his physique in term of aesthetics.
As for Zane not being able to get bigger, well, he did get bigger and he looked worse for it. He had the sense to back off and put priority on the quality of how he looked. Funny enough, he looked bigger when he wasn't...