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"Just a little bit of the taste of the bass for you, as you get up and dance at the LQ." 8)
~ Anybody here who knows where that quote comes from gets Benny's respect. ;)
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"Word to Herb, yo if you can't swing this
Learn the words, you might sing this"... ;)
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"I do my talking in the octagon" Its Rampage thats been talking a Bunch of trash and Jones has finally started to defend himself.
Cant wait until he gets Smashed.
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"Just a little bit of the taste of the bass for you, as you get up and dance at the LQ." 8)
~ Anybody here who knows where that quote comes from gets Benny's respect. ;)
I really hope someone would beat this Jon Jones f.aggot. I don't like him. Maybe Anderson Silva should put on some 20 lbs of muscle, move up to light-heavyweight and then end his career by giving Jones the beating of a lifetime.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I really hope someone would beat this Jon Jones f.aggot. I don't like him. Maybe Anderson Silva should put on some 20 lbs of muscle, move up to light-heavyweight and then end his career by giving Jones the beating of a lifetime.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Why would u hate him....a highly skilled, well-rounded, God fearing, non-arrogant, respectful young man, in a serious relationship, a good father, and mature beyond his years. You can't hate someone if u dnt know them bro.
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"Word to Herb, yo if you can't swing this
Learn the words, you might sing this"... ;)
My man "claymore"...good job. ;D Now, do you kiddies know what "LQ" stands for?
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I like both of these fighters. Rampage is 'mah dude' though, so I'll be rooting for him Saturday night.
Unfortunately for Rampage, Bones will not be so polite come fight time. Rampage better bring his A(Team) Game. :-\
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Reflexes look sharp! 8)
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Why would u hate him....a highly skilled, well-rounded, God fearing, non-arrogant, respectful young man, in a serious relationship, a good father, and mature beyond his years. You can't hate someone if u dnt know them bro.
Plain and simple the reason SMM hates him: Because he doesn't have his roots with Pride.
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Reflexes look sharp! 8)
Good to see Tarzan.....er, I mean Tiki back in Rampages camp again after he fucked him over.
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I really hope someone would beat this Jon Jones f.aggot. I don't like him. Maybe Anderson Silva should put on some 20 lbs of muscle, move up to light-heavyweight and then end his career by giving Jones the beating of a lifetime.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
anderson silvia already said he cannot beat jones.
So your idiotic idea of silva putting on "20lbs of muscle" (only possible with steroids at this point) is a total joke
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Nobody can beat Jon jones, he'll take out another Mma legend spectacularly this Saturday. He is the most accurately violent relentless skilled fighter in Mma, Anderson silva included. I doubt he'll be beaten for a very very long time
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Nobody can beat Jon jones, he'll take out another Mma legend spectacularly this Saturday. He is the most accurately violent relentless skilled fighter in Mma, Anderson silva included. I doubt he'll be beaten for a very very long time
Jones is a much better fighter then Rampage for sure. But lets be real. Rampage is going out there to do one thing, knock him out. It only takes one punch with guys over 190 pounds to get knocked out with those tiny gloves. Jones could easily get caught by Rampage.
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Nobody can beat Jon jones, he'll take out another Mma legend spectacularly this Saturday. He is the most accurately violent relentless skilled fighter in Mma, Anderson silva included. I doubt he'll be beaten for a very very long time
It's funny how the pretty much most dangerous man in the world today is a 24yr old kid.
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Oh no doubt, rampage will try take jones head off but I think ppl are still underestimating Jon jones, his elbows, knees, fuck they would do more damage then rampages hardest right hook. Good fight I expect though
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It's funny how the pretty much most dangerous man in the world today is a 24yr old kid.
How old was Tyson in his prime?
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My man "claymore"...good job. ;D Now, do you kiddies know what "LQ" stands for?
(http://yourblackworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Chuck_D_-3.jpg)
LQ=Latin Quarter
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How old was Tyson in his prime?
I guess younger
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IF Page rushes in, he's gonna get smashed with a thai clinch and knees. He's much shorter than Jones.
IF Page stays outside etc, he'll get nailed with punches and kicks.
Punchers chance.
(however, stranger things have happened... See this Sunday when the Bills beat the Patriots)
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This should be an easy fight for jones....I got nothing but love for quinton, but he better be training harder than the videos I've seen lately.
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Nobody can beat Jon jones, he'll take out another Mma legend spectacularly this Saturday. He is the most accurately violent relentless skilled fighter in Mma, Anderson silva included. I doubt he'll be beaten for a very very long time
No one goes an entire career in mma without losing. Bones will have a few defeats on his record by the time its all said and done, and Rampage has the power to end a fight at any time. You guys remember Serra vs. GSP right?
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How old was Tyson in his prime?
20
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IF Page rushes in, he's gonna get smashed with a thai clinch and knees. He's much shorter than Jones.
IF Page stays outside etc, he'll get nailed with punches and kicks.
Punchers chance.
(however, stranger things have happened... See this Sunday when the Bills beat the Patriots)
Fuck you Coltrane ;D I'm very nervous about my Pats going to Buffalo this week. The Bill have not beat the Pats since 2003, and something has to give eventually. The Patriots have to out score them, cause the defense is suspect.
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Exactly, young doesn't mean anything in combat sports
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Exactly, young doesn't mean anything in combat sports
I think you kinda missed the point with my post
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Plain and simple the reason SMM hates him: Because he doesn't have his roots with Pride.
Lol, this has nothing to do with PRIDE. I like PRIDE fighters because even after all these years they are still some of the best - Big Nog, Anderson and Shogun all won their fights at UFC 134.
The reason I dislike Jon Jones is his arrogance. He is extremely cocky. He knows that he is extremely physically gifted, and his showing of "respect" for his opponents is a smokescreen. In reality, he doesen't respect any of them. Go ask Rashad and he'll tell you stories about how egotistic and condescending Jones is. Watch his post-fight interview after the fight with Shogun, and he flat out says that the only reason why he didn't finish Shogun in the first round is because he wanted to toy with him and show him that he could beat Shogun at his game. Are these the words of a "humble" guy?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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anderson silvia already said he cannot beat jones.
So your idiotic idea of silva putting on "20lbs of muscle" (only possible with steroids at this point) is a total joke
Where did Silva say that? I want to read this. And I agree that Jones would beat Silva as is since Jones is bigger, heavier and with a greater reach. But you make Silva fight Jones at 205 lbs and that is a completely difference story.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Fuck you Coltrane ;D I'm very nervous about my Pats going to Buffalo this week. The Bill have not beat the Pats since 2003, and something has to give eventually. The Patriots have to out score them, cause the defense is suspect.
Yeah bud, I can't wait for the game either. You have no idea how badly the Bills and their fans wanna finally beat the Pats.
Hopefully it's a great game and not a blow out. (via the Pats)
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Lol, this has nothing to do with PRIDE. I like PRIDE fighters because even after all these years they are still some of the best - Big Nog, Anderson and Shogun all won their fights at UFC 134.
The reason I dislike Jon Jones is his arrogance. He is extremely cocky. He knows that he is extremely physically gifted, and his showing of "respect" for his opponents is a smokescreen. In reality, he doesen't respect any of them. Go ask Rashad and he'll tell you stories about how egotistic and condescending Jones is. Watch his post-fight interview after the fight with Shogun, and he flat out says that the only reason why he didn't finish Shogun in the first round is because he wanted to toy with him and show him that he could beat Shogun at his game. Are these the words of a "humble" guy?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Jones doesn't come off as arrogant or cocky at all to me. Not in the slightest. I actually met him one time before he made it big. He made a guest appearance at a low level MMA event. Anyway, as he walked down the isle to leave, i shouted out "Bones!". Instead of just walking by etc, he stopped, walked down the isle and shook my hand. This was all when he was very new.
Believe me, he's not arrogant.
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Jones doesn't come off as arrogant or cocky at all to me. Not in the slightest. I actually met him one time before he made it big. He made a guest appearance at a low level MMA event. Anyway, as he walked down the isle to leave, i shouted out "Bones!". Instead of just walking by etc, he stopped, walked down the isle and shook my hand. This was all when he was very new.
Believe me, he's not arrogant.
Jones was in law enforcement. Of course he's arrogant. Its impossible for anyone in law enforcement to not be cocky/arrogant. There's been studies done about this. Anyone getting into law enforcement has a chip on their shoulder. 100%. Now add in the fact that Jones may just be the baddest fighter on the planet, that is a recipe for a colossal douche.
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Jones said he use to snitch on people for weed ::) sounds like suckmycockmuscle you guys would get along well.
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Jones was in law enforcement. Of course he's arrogant.
Proof of this? Was he ever an officer? Did Chick ever blow him while on duty?
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Proof of this? Was he ever an officer? Did Chick ever blow him while on duty?
I believe he went to college for law enforcement. Talked about snitching on people etc. Was proud of it.
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I believe he went to college for law enforcement. Talked about snitching on people etc. Was proud of it.
So this doesn't mean he was a cop or is cocky like Chick.
Anyway, Jones by snitching, Round 2.
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Exactly, young doesn't mean anything in combat sports
Actually being young is an advantage! ;)
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Why would u hate him....a highly skilled, well-rounded, God fearing, non-arrogant, respectful young man, in a serious relationship, a good father, and mature beyond his years. You can't hate someone if u dnt know them bro.
Sucky is just stupid.
Jones is the best thing to happen to the UFC.
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It's funny how the pretty much most dangerous man in the world today is a 24yr old kid.
Tell me about it. When I first walked into Rorion's academy 20 years ago the kid was 4 years old.
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Lol, this has nothing to do with PRIDE. I like PRIDE fighters because even after all these years they are still some of the best - Big Nog, Anderson and Shogun all won their fights at UFC 134.
The reason I dislike Jon Jones is his arrogance. He is extremely cocky. He knows that he is extremely physically gifted, and his showing of "respect" for his opponents is a smokescreen. In reality, he doesen't respect any of them. Go ask Rashad and he'll tell you stories about how egotistic and condescending Jones is. Watch his post-fight interview after the fight with Shogun, and he flat out says that the only reason why he didn't finish Shogun in the first round is because he wanted to toy with him and show him that he could beat Shogun at his game. Are these the words of a "humble" guy?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Not like the humbleness and humility of Rampage.
God, you're stupid, Stupid.
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I like hamburgers. 8)
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Page better knock out this cocky and arrogant fool Jones!
WAR RAMPAGE!
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Page better knock out this cocky and arrogant fool Jones!
WAR RAMPAGE!
Jon jones is gonna make rampage look like cutler last wk against Heath, old, past it and battered
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Jones doesn't come off as arrogant or cocky at all to me. Not in the slightest. I actually met him one time before he made it big. He made a guest appearance at a low level MMA event. Anyway, as he walked down the isle to leave, i shouted out "Bones!". Instead of just walking by etc, he stopped, walked down the isle and shook my hand. This was all when he was very new.
Believe me, he's not arrogant.
Do you think that a man who claims that the only reason why he didn't finish Shogun in the first round is because he wanted to toy with him and prove that he could beat Shogun at his game is "humble"? C'mon.....
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I hope Rampage beat the shit out of Jones.
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Jon jones is gonna make rampage look like cutler last wk against Heath, old, past it and battered
I hope Rampage beat the shit out of Jones.
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Page's training schedule for the title fight was posted a few days ago. This is what you call a full-timer:
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I hope Rampage beat the shit out of Jones.
Racist post repor... oh wait! Nevermind.
To tell you the truth, and this doesn't make sense and purely emotional, I like Jones, I think he's a good stand up guy. He is exactly what the sport needs. I don't particularly like Rampage. He's a thug who would be sitting in prison contemplating his next tat and ignoring all his kids from different women if it wasn't for MMA. But I want him to knock Jones out. Knock him out cold. With one bomb I want to see that giraffe crumble flat on his back completely out cold. Stone cold. Jones' day will come and since I've been following the sport since day one (attended the first UFC in Colorado) I am, I don't know -- uncomfortable -- with the old guard fading away. Fedor, Ruas, Nog, Coleman, Liddell, Couture, CroCop, Matt Hughes, Wanderlie Silva (damn he was a beast back in the day)..., followed them every step of the way. Every goddamn step. Fuck, even BJ Penn's days seemed numbered. I so wanted Vitor to win. He's started very young and has been through all the stages of the UFC.... If only Seagal didn't teach Silva that front kick (lol).
I know that's life. Out with the old in with the new. I just want to hang on just a bit longer. Just a little bit longer. I've been with these guys for years. Just a little bit more.
Come on Rampage. Tap into that thug life you grew up in and made you mean. Jones childhood was pretty much smooth sailing. No housing projects and gangs. Had a pretty nice life. Got to go to college, didn't have to work so he could concentrate on wrestling.
Stay tight. Guard that chin like your life depended on it because it does. Work your way in close and just lay that fucker out. One bomb and watch him fall like a Redwood. His time will come. Just not now.
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Racist post repor... oh wait! Nevermind.
To tell you the truth, and this doesn't make sense and purely emotional, I like Jones, I think he's a good stand up guy. He is exactly what the sport needs. I don't particularly like Rampage. He's a thug who would be sitting in prison contemplating his next tat and ignoring all his kids from different women if it wasn't for MMA. But I want him to knock Jones out. Knock him out cold. With one bomb I want to see that giraffe crumble flat on his back completely out cold. Stone cold. Jones' day will come and since I've been following the sport since day one (attended the first UFC in Colorado) I am, I don't know -- uncomfortable -- with the old guard fading away. Fedor, Ruas, Nog, Coleman, Liddell, Couture, CroCop, Matt Hughes, Wanderlie Silva (damn he was a beast back in the day)..., followed them every step of the way. Every goddamn step. Fuck, even BJ Penn's days seemed numbered. I so wanted Vitor to win. He's started very young and has been through all the stages of the UFC.... If only Seagal didn't teach Silva that front kick (lol).
I know that's life. Out with the old in with the new. I just want to hang on just a bit longer. Just a little bit longer. I've been with these guys for years. Just a little bit more.
Come on Rampage. Tap into that thug life you grew up in and made you mean. Jones childhood was pretty much smooth sailing. No housing projects and gangs. Had a pretty nice life. Got to go to college, didn't have to work so he could concentrate on wrestling.
Stay tight. Guard that chin like your life depended on it because it does. Work your way in close and just lay that fucker out. One bomb and watch him fall like a Redwood. His time will come. Just not now.
Excellent. ;D
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Racist post repor... oh wait! Nevermind.
To tell you the truth, and this doesn't make sense and purely emotional, I like Jones, I think he's a good stand up guy. He is exactly what the sport needs. I don't particularly like Rampage. He's a thug who would be sitting in prison contemplating his next tat and ignoring all his kids from different women if it wasn't for MMA. But I want him to knock Jones out. Knock him out cold. With one bomb I want to see that giraffe crumble flat on his back completely out cold. Stone cold. Jones' day will come and since I've been following the sport since day one (attended the first UFC in Colorado) I am, I don't know -- uncomfortable -- with the old guard fading away. Fedor, Ruas, Nog, Coleman, Liddell, Couture, CroCop, Matt Hughes, Wanderlie Silva (damn he was a beast back in the day)..., followed them every step of the way. Every goddamn step. Fuck, even BJ Penn's days seemed numbered. I so wanted Vitor to win. He's started very young and has been through all the stages of the UFC.... If only Seagal didn't teach Silva that front kick (lol).
I know that's life. Out with the old in with the new. I just want to hang on just a bit longer. Just a little bit longer. I've been with these guys for years. Just a little bit more.
Come on Rampage. Tap into that thug life you grew up in and made you mean. Jones childhood was pretty much smooth sailing. No housing projects and gangs. Had a pretty nice life. Got to go to college, didn't have to work so he could concentrate on wrestling.
Stay tight. Guard that chin like your life depended on it because it does. Work your way in close and just lay that fucker out. One bomb and watch him fall like a Redwood. His time will come. Just not now.
Great post. I have to go with this.
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Stay tight. Guard that chin like your life depended on it because it does. Work your way in close and just lay that fucker out. One bomb and watch him fall like a Redwood. His time will come. Just not now.
Rampage has Ko'd One guy since the beginning of 2007. And that was Wandy being crazy and just banged with rampage and got caught (and piece of shit rampage threw a Few extra shots WHILE the ref tried to pull him of which EVERYONE ignores, and that made me lose respect for Rampage since he did it as "payback" when Wandy ko'd the shit out of him) Since then he has looked like a bad boxer.. No kicks, no slams no nothing.
So even though I agree with you on a lot of your points, Fuck rampage, Cant wait to see him get destroyed and hopefully he doesn't drive into someone pregnant again after the loss again.
Rampage is getting cut a lot of slack because hes funny and popular. If not, combine the punches after wandy was out with causing a miscarriage for driving into someone and people would Boo him ...if he wasn't rampage.
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I know that's life. Out with the old in with the new. I just want to hang on just a bit longer. Just a little bit longer. I've been with these guys for years. Just a little bit more.
Come on Rampage. Tap into that thug life you grew up in and made you mean. Jones childhood was pretty much smooth sailing. No housing projects and gangs. Had a pretty nice life. Got to go to college, didn't have to work so he could concentrate on wrestling.
I love rampage, like you I have followed MMA and UFC for long time, sad to see greats retire like Randy, Chuck etc.. We still have TITO though. Chuck must be pissed that TITO is still going and he's drinking beer on the sidelines. Oh well, ya gotta love the UFC. Anyway Heart wants Rampahe to Win, but head says maybe Jones to strong and will lay and pray if he has too and eek out a win. But Rampage is hard to keep down, he likes to get at it and bang, and if he hits Jones, Lights OUT BABY. Prediction JONES in unanimous decision after realising he cant stand and bang with rampage so ties him up and lays on Rampage for the following four rounds. Should be good fight though.
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This wont be going to a decision. Jones will do the same thing he did to Rua to Rampage... only worse now that Jones' confidence must be a little higher now since toppling Rua.
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LQ=Latin Quarter
Yep. A club where I had many a fun night back in the day. 8)
It is also now known as the place where Plaxico Burress shot himself on his way into the club. ::) :D
But I digress!
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This wont be going to a decision. Jones will do the same thing he did to Rua to Rampage... only worse now that Jones' confidence must be a little higher now since toppling Rua.
Nope.
Rampage can take shots MUCH better than Rua. 'Page only has to survive the first couple of rounds without accruing major damage. After that, he will be relentlessly checking that young boy's chin and heart. ;)
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Nope.
Rampage can take shots MUCH better than Rua. 'Page only has to survive the first couple of rounds without accruing major damage. After that, he will be relentlessly checking that young boy's chin and heart. ;)
lol, a few rounds in and Rampage is GASSED combine that with the range Jones can hit rampage at and Rampage will look like a fool that can never reach the target.
Hopefully jones stops him before that. RTampage hasn't been stopped since 2005 either. So if Jones stops him. That might be the last we see of Rampage.
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Nope.
Rampage can take shots MUCH better than Rua. 'Page only has to survive the first couple of rounds without accruing major damage. After that, he will be relentlessly checking that young boy's chin and heart. ;)
You can't possibly believe that Benny. Hopefully you're not hiding post fight come saturday night. You'll have some explaining to do.
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As long as Jon jones doesn't try anything retarded like deciding he HAS to finish it with a spinning elbow or something risky, cos rampage can hit hard and punish mistakes (not as well as rua though), then he will coast it. Rampage isn't all that great anymore. He's boring and not dangerous compared to jones, machida or rua, I think this could be a handier fight for jones then the shogun fight was. Unless rampage wrestles very well and gets mount, that'll be all new to jones
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Unless rampage wrestles very well and gets mount, that'll be all new to jones
I doubt Jones will Ever get mounted in mma.
I wonder is UFC has fighters thats never been mounted. Has GSP been mounted?
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I doubt Jones will Ever get mounted in mma.
That is rampages only chance other then the big uppercut. Can't see it happening unless he hurts jones first though
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That is rampages only chance other then the big uppercut. Can't see it happening unless he hurts jones first though
The only chance I give him in a lucky overhand right or something simular when jones comes in of he drops his hands etc.
If Jones wanted he could play this safe as HELL and just pick rampage a part from a distance. RAmpage has however in EVERY single interview hes given claimed that he KNOWS jones will take him down. Only to get insides Jones head to make him stand since rampage knows what little chance he has is standing up.
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Easy win for jones. Shogun rematch, machida, and especially rashad will be jones biggest tests. Rampage is just target practise
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Easy win for jones. Shogun rematch, machida, and especially rashad will be jones biggest tests. Rampage is just target practise
imo shogun will never even stand a chance, machida is good when he stays on the outside and moves in fast and out. Jones will be the first one to reach machide = ruining machidas gameplan and Im confident claiming he could just throw him to the fucking ground if he wanted to.
Rashad on the other hand, Fast and a great wrestler. Then again Hammil is a great wrestler also and we know what happened to him.
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I would love it if Rampage ko's Bones. Let's just say i'm not gonna put money on it though. Rampage doesn't seem at all hungry anymore and doesn't seem to be developing at this stage of his career(as the lack of kicks shows).
I like Jones, but i seem to be liking him less the more he prospers. I don't know why, he's great for the sport.
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Rampage has Ko'd One guy since the beginning of 2007. And that was Wandy being crazy and just banged with rampage and got caught (and piece of shit rampage threw a Few extra shots WHILE the ref tried to pull him of which EVERYONE ignores, and that made me lose respect for Rampage since he did it as "payback" when Wandy ko'd the shit out of him) Since then he has looked like a bad boxer.. No kicks, no slams no nothing.
So even though I agree with you on a lot of your points, Fuck rampage, Cant wait to see him get destroyed and hopefully he doesn't drive into someone pregnant again after the loss again.
Rampage is getting cut a lot of slack because hes funny and popular. If not, combine the punches after wandy was out with causing a miscarriage for driving into someone and people would Boo him ...if he wasn't rampage.
You're right. He's not a particularly good guy. I've never rooted for him in a fight. He's a thug. A womanizer. No class. The Japs, if they didn't hate him, always squirmed in their seat when they saw him. Japs don't like loud, rowdy guys. The especially don't like loud, rowdy Black guys. But you're a young guy. Rampage is part of those glorious days of Pride. People forget, or never knew how young he was, he was only 22 years old when he was fighting in Pride beating guys with more experience and skill level by sheer guts and ferocity. Guys like Vovchanchyn, Randleman, Lidell, Bustamante, Murilo Rua, Arona... I mean, those are high level guys with much better training and experience. Arona was an Abu Dhabi champion. I remember watching that fight with Jean Jacques Machado (Eddie Bravo's instructor and also an Abu Dhabi champ) and when Arona tried to pull that triangle and Page just picked him up and slammed him. It was a wake up call for us BJJ guys always thinking we ruled. That wasn't how you were supposed to escape a triangle. There were specific techniques you had to learn to escape and particular techniques you had to learn to counter that counter. Rampage didn't know any of that shit. There was no Jiu-Jitsu in Memphis. And even if there was you weren't going to escape a high level Black Belt in BJJ's triangle. We never considered that someone will just pick you up and slam your ass (and head) on the ground. So for me, if he loses, it's just another mark of the passing of an era. A really, really good era.
You'll see when you get old. Those that you pretty much went through your best years with start fading away. Like I said, Jones future seems pretty much preordained. He's definitely a new breed of fighter on another level. He's better than Rampage. But he's still green. I want to see experience and sheer brutal force of will overcome talent and progress. Just slam his ass on the ground.
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Nope.
Rampage can take shots MUCH better than Rua. 'Page only has to survive the first couple of rounds without accruing major damage. After that, he will be relentlessly checking that young boy's chin and heart. ;)
Exactly, Rampage is a much stronger, physical and brutal fighter than Rua (no disrepect and he's one of the greats). That skinny boy isn't going to man handle Page like he did Rua. I just pray that Page is still hungry and comes in top shape and out for blood.
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Pellius & Benny:
You're both living in an unrealistic fantasy land right now. Have you watched any of Bones' fights? The guy is a monster. No one has come close to hurting him. He has been destroying some very good names.
I know you both love Page, but he is not the old Pride version we all loved. He hasn't been for quite some time. He surprised us all by beating Machida... but really, what else has he done? Barely got by Hammil. HAMMIL!!
Page isn't fighting a normal fighter here. He's not fighting a Hammil or a washed up Wandy or Chuck. He is fighting a fighter who is a phenom (no, not vitor.. or victor if you're SMM). Jones is such a special fighter.. who who rarely comes along.. he's on the same plane as a A. Silva.
THis isn't to say Jones will never be defeated or stopped. Who knows, maybe Page will sneak in a great bomb and KO him. BUt this is for certain: Bones will always be in the top 3 light heavies.
Bones TKO mid second round if Page isn't agressive.
Bones TKO end of first round if Page comes out aggressive.
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. He has been destroying some very good names.
Rua and ???
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Remember, Jones is fighting in the UFC and UFC names. All great talent.
Page will just be another notch on his belt.
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Pellius & Benny:
You're both living in an unrealistic fantasy land right now. Have you watched any of Bones' fights? The guy is a monster. No one has come close to hurting him. He has been destroying some very good names.
I know you both love Page, but he is not the old Pride version we all loved. He hasn't been for quite some time. He surprised us all by beating Machida... but really, what else has he done? Barely got by Hammil. HAMMIL!!
Page isn't fighting a normal fighter here. He's not fighting a Hammil or a washed up Wandy or Chuck. He is fighting a fighter who is a phenom (no, not vitor.. or victor if you're SMM). Jones is such a special fighter.. who who rarely comes along.. he's on the same plane as a A. Silva.
THis isn't to say Jones will never be defeated or stopped. Who knows, maybe Page will sneak in a great bomb and KO him. BUt this is for certain: Bones will always be in the top 3 light heavies.
Bones TKO mid second round if Page isn't agressive.
Bones TKO end of first round if Page comes out aggressive.
I can't argue with you. Bones is unlike anything I've ever seen before. It's a sentimental thing.
Like I said, I never was a fan of Rampage and never rooted for him in any fight. It's the era he represents. An era that is dying off. But just one more for the gipper. You get like that when you get old. And when you have knock out power like Page you can always get lucky.
Just one more, God, for old times sake. (And Page is going to need the hand of God for this one.)
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Unless rampage can hit jones very very hard at the start of the fight and frighten him into engaging then jones will have his way. Then again jones has never fought a scary loudmouth like rampage before and this could get in his head. But to ppl who say jones hasn't beaten anyone...rua is a top 3 fighter, mathechenko is a hard hard fucker with a great mma record, hamill was at his peak at the time, Vera is very technical and experienced and Bonnar has never been stopped. My official verdict, jones by beatdown rd 3
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I made this post answering Coltrane's question regarding what will happen in the Jones vs Rampage fight in the MMA board. It is a brilliant read.
Coltrane, I will stop hating on you and take your question seriously. I was going to start a thread on this. What I am going to say now will no doubt make me the subject of ridicule but I am going to say it anyway: I think Jon Jones is overrated. He is supremely athletic, yes, but being the most athletic guy does not necessarily make you the best fighter. Anderson Silva is more athletic than Chael Sonnen and if it weren't for that last minute submission, Chael would have won if it went to a decision. Everyone is awed by Jones speed and coordination and forgets that he hasn't faced any serious opponent. The best he's fought is Stephen Bonnar, and he can't bust a grape. Sure, he's fought Shogun, but Shogun was coming from knee surgery and hadn't fought in almost two years. Also, Shogun doesen't have the reach to fight Jones. He couldn't even get close to Jones. This is, in fact, the fundamental problem with Shogun fighting Jones: if Shogun could get close to Jones' head he could have won. Whilst Rampage's reach is not much greater than Shogun, Rampage is more athletic and fast and will no doubt close in. What will happen when Jones gets hit really hard? Before we proclaim Jones as this live super-hero, we first need to answer a few questions:
1. Can he take a seriously strong punch to the chin and remain standing?
2. What about cardio? He always finishes fights in the first round. What if the fight goes the distance? Will he crumble after 3 rounds or such?
3. On the ground, despite being a superb wrestler, can he avoid being defeated by a grappler who is great at catching submissions from his back?
Until we answer these questions and see Jones face someone with real KO power that he can't just keep at a distance from him and a BJJ guy who is great at submitting wrestlers, it is premature to call him this invincible force of doom that came to dominate all. He has the potential to be the GOAT, but not yet.
Answering your question, it all boils down to KO power. Jones will almost certainly win as he is superior to Rampage in everything from athleticism to his ground game. But Rampage's KO power gives him a serious shot. If Rampage closes in and connects, he can knock any man out. Anyone. Rampage is one of the hardest hitters in the history of MMA and certainly of the light-heavyweighr division. Jones has an 80% chance of winning this fight. It would be 100% if Rampage didn't have such insane KO power. His KO power gives him a 20% chance of winning by connecting.
Jones 80%
Rampage 20%
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I hope rampage schools him, I can see him losing, hope not.
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I made this post answering Coltrane's question regarding what will happen in the Jones vs Rampage fight in the MMA board. It is a brilliant read.
Coltrane, I will stop hating on you and take your question seriously. I was going to start a thread on this. What I am going to say now will no doubt make me the subject of ridicule but I am going to say it anyway: I think Jon Jones is overrated. He is supremely athletic, yes, but being the most athletic guy does not necessarily make you the best fighter. Anderson Silva is more athletic than Chael Sonnen and if it weren't for that last minute submission, Chael would have won if it went to a decision. Everyone is awed by Jones speed and coordination and forgets that he hasn't faced any serious opponent. The best he's fought is Stephen Bonnar, and he can't bust a grape. Sure, he's fought Shogun, but Shogun was coming from knee surgery and hadn't fought in almost two years. Also, Shogun doesen't have the reach to fight Jones. He couldn't even get close to Jones. This is, in fact, the fundamental problem with Shogun fighting Jones: if Shogun could get close to Jones' head he could have won. Whilst Rampage's reach is not much greater than Shogun, Rampage is more athletic and fast and will no doubt close in. What will happen when Jones gets hit really hard? Before we proclaim Jones as this live super-hero, we first need to answer a few questions:
1. Can he take a seriously strong punch to the chin and remain standing?
2. What about cardio? He always finishes fights in the first round. What if the fight goes the distance? Will he crumble after 3 rounds or such?
3. On the ground, despite being a superb wrestler, can he avoid being defeated by a grappler who is great at catching submissions from his back?
Until we answer these questions and see Jones face someone with real KO power that he can't just keep at a distance from him and a BJJ guy who is great at submitting wrestlers, it is premature to call him this invincible force of doom that came to dominate all. He has the potential to be the GOAT, but not yet.
Answering your question, it all boils down to KO power. Jones will almost certainly win as he is superior to Rampage in everything from athleticism to his ground game. But Rampage's KO power gives him a serious shot. If Rampage closes in and connects, he can knock any man out. Anyone. Rampage is one of the hardest hitters in the history of MMA and certainly of the light-heavyweighr division. Jones has an 80% chance of winning this fight. It would be 100% if Rampage didn't have such insane KO power. His KO power gives him a 20% chance of winning by connecting.
Jones 80%
Rampage 20%
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Hi Stupid, glad you're back.
Not only has Jones fought some very good fighters, it's the way he's beaten them. Just utterly destroyed and dominated them. Vera, Bader, Bonner, Ruas, Vlady... you can make any excuses you want for them: they were overrated, past their prime, injured, rusty ..., fact is they are world class fighters and they were simply tooled. Just massacred and destroyed by Jones. I have first hand experience with Matyushenko, the IFL champ, and know what he can do. When Machida came to our school in '06 to train for an up coming fight (Jungle Fight 6 in Brasil) before he was champ he was schooled like a little girl by Valdy. And Machida went on to win his match. When Jacare rolled with Valdy to a stalemate (with Jacare on my bottom most of the time) he said that Vlady was one of the toughest strongest mofos he ever stepped on the mat with. I thought for sure Vlady would be too much for Jones. But Jones took him out like he was nothing. Like Valdy never stepped into the cage before. And Vlady came from the days when Belarus was still Communist and taken away from his family to train as a wrestler before he was able to defect to the US.
Jones is no joke. But he is green and I'm still hoping against hope that lack of experience, at least compared to Page, will be his downfall. But rest assured, he ain't going anywhere. He's going to be with us for a long time like Fedor was when he won the title at about the same age as Jones.