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I think Obama loses Ohio in 2012.
Just how important is Ohio in 2012? Very!
By: CNN Deputy Political Director Paul Steinhauser
(CNN) - How important is Ohio to the Obama White House? Vice President Joe Biden heads there Tuesday, the fourth visit to the crucial battleground state by President Barack Obama or Biden since Labor Day. And Obama will be there again on Thursday to lobby for his jobs package.
Ohio’s 18 electoral votes could again be pivotal to the 2012 presidential election. George W. Bush sealed his 2004 re-election by narrowly winning the state over Sen. John Kerry.
In 2008, Obama and Biden took the state by 5 points. But the GOP won big in last year’s midterm elections, taking back the governor's office and five House seats held by Democrats.
Top strategists from both parties believe that Ohio will again be crucial next year.
"Ohio is ground zero for the jobs debate,” GOP strategist and CNN contributor Alex Castellanos said. “If the president is losing Ohio, he is not just losing a state; he is losing the debate on jobs."
And the state is “a microcosm of American swing voters: Reagan Democrats, suburban soccer-moms, and even Up-Tino's - upwardly mobile Latinos - an increasingly important target for both parties," said Castellanos, who was a top media adviser to the 2004 Bush-Cheney re-election campaign and to Romney's 2008 bid but is not taking sides this cycle.
Paul Begala, a top political adviser to former President Bill Clinton and now a Democratic strategist and CNN contributor, agreed on how pivotal the state would be.
"Barack Obama picked up 9 states that George W Bush carried in ‘04. If Obama holds Ohio, he can lose the other 8 and still be re-elected. So the stakes in Ohio are enormous," said Begala, who's also a senior adviser to Priorities USA and Priorities USA Action, two independent groups launched earlier his year to support Obama's re-election bid.
Biden and Small Business Administration Administrator Karen Mills will visit Wrap-Tite, Inc.., in Solon, Ohio, near Cleveland, a manufacturer and distributor of stretch wrap and other packaging and shipping products. The White House said the firm recently received an SBA loan to assist in the purchase of a new facility that has allowed it to make five new hires and spend $250,000 in equipment purchases over the last year.
Obama on Thursday will use the Brent Spence Bridge as the backdrop for a pitch for his $447 billion jobs bill – a combination of infrastructure spending, tax cuts and aid to state and local governments. The bridge, designated as “functionally obsolete” by the National Bridge Inventory, is on a major trucking route that links the constituencies of the top two Republicans in Congress - House Speaker John Boehner's district in Ohio to Kentucky, home of Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell.
Biden was last in Ohio on Labor Day, when he was the main attraction at an AFL-CIO Labor Day event in Cincinnati. Obama was in Columbus last Tuesday to promote his jobs proposals.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/20/just-how-important-is-ohio-in-2012-very/?hpt=hp_bn3
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I think he loses Florida too.
Florida Independent Voters Could Make All the Difference in 2012
By Shannon Bream
Published September 21, 2011
FoxNews.com
In 2008, then-Senator Barack Obama won Florida's presidential election by winning over the state's independent voters. Exit polls show 52 percent of them voted for Obama. That was then, this is now - and recent polls show that important voting bloc is cooling to the president.
According to the latest Quinnipiac poll, just 33 percent of Florida's independent voters approve of the job the president is doing. A whopping 61 percent disapprove of his performance.
Justin Sayfie, political consultant and author of the Sayfie Review says the Sunshine State's independent voters are worried not only about the economy, but also the president's leadership.
Republican candidates will have a chance to woo Florida voters in Thursday's GOP presidential debate in Orlando. Florida's Republican Party Communications Director Brian Hughes even speculated that the winner of the 'Presidency 5' Florida straw poll will be the 2012 GOP nominee.
Given the make up of Florida's electorate, independent voters will make all the difference. Democrats make up 41 percent of the state's registered voters, Republicans account for 36 percent. Nearly a quarter of Florida's voters have elected not to register with either party.
Regardless of party, Sayfie says Floridians who voted for Obama in 2008 are re-evaluating their choice. According to Sayfie, both Democrats and independents who voted for the president in the last election "aren't feeling as excited about his campaign and his candidacy as they did a few years ago."
Count songwriter Bobby Marin among them. Marin says he's disappointed in Obama and would consider voting for someone like Mitt Romney.
"I'm trying to hold on as much as I can because I like the guy," Marin says, adding, "but so far he hasn't shown us anything."
However, other Floridians who supported Obama in 2008 blame his inability to get more accomplished on "the mess" President Bush left behind and a GOP-controlled House they say is blocking his ideas.
Tinashei Phillips says that's why Obama deserves a second chance. She cast her vote for him in 2008 and will do so again in 2012.
"I do think that with this term coming up that he will be able to make everything better."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/21/florida-independent-voters-could-make-all-difference-in-2012/
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One of my best friends lives in Ohio and he is a blue dog demo. He literally froths at the mouth in hatred of obama and said bama has ZERO chance in ohio as of now.
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this all depends on who the GOP runs.
Obama 2012 would once again defeat Mccain/Palin. You all know this. No doubt.
However, Obama 2012 would have no chance against Jeb/Hutchison.
Now, who will the GOP run? President Vaccination?
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One of my best friends lives in Ohio and he is a blue dog demo. He literally froths at the mouth in hatred of obama and said bama has ZERO chance in ohio as of now.
Yep. I hear this from people in different parts of the country.