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Title: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: Meso_z on September 23, 2011, 12:15:40 AM
Deon Silva:
I think Reg's diet will come as a real surprise to most! I have asked Reg on many occasions to confirm this.
In the world of modern bodybuilding nutrition (egg whites, low fat diet styles etc.) Reg's diet is something of a contradiction to all of that. Here is what he did...he ate anything he pleased! To bulk up he simply ate more! Back in the late 1940's and early 1950's there were no set or accepted diet rules for the bodybuilder, no books on bodybuilding nutrition. In the modern program "Body for Life" the six meals a day has almost been punted as a new, modern concept, but Reg was doing this way back then. Reg's main source of protein was - Full Cream Milk! He drank pints/litres of it per day (full cream, not the modern low fat variety). Reg has always said that milk is your cheapest source of protein.
Reg was a huge eater and he ate anything that was calorie rich! Reg believes in a simple nutrition plan - to bulk up, eat a lot! and workout hard!

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In an interview with Reg by Osmo Kiiha, Reg was asked about his diet:

"What type of diet did you follow?

Reg: I liked to eat like a king, but only food that was good for me. I ate prodigious amounts of food during the day, but adhered to a very balanced diet with everything in proper proportions. My favorite food is steak, which I sometimes eat twice a day. I also like salads, orange juice and wine. I have a wine cellar in my home. I also have used protein supplements and take vitamin and mineral tablets.

Earle Liederman once wrote in "Iron Man" about the gastronomical indulgences of bodybuilding starts, "Reg Park of England wins a good second to Mac Batchelor with his speed. Once, when dining with Reg, he gargled three large plates of vegetable soup, then gulped chucks from his extra large and thick steak without his teeth sinking into the meat once, apparently, next stuffed many side dishes of vegetables into his ever open mouth and these include an extra large pair of baked potatoes, a huge bowl of salad, three glasses of milk and the last, the piece de resistance, a big dish of ice cream with cake. And all this, mind you, in about ten minutes. Gee! I've seen hungry bloodhounds gobble down food, but Reg Park wins a can of fried grasshoppers as second place for amount, and first place for speed."

And here's a basic diet template he sometimes used.

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Reg Park's Diet.

Breakfast:

A glass of fresh orange juice
Fruit: paw-paw (papaya) & banana
Cooked Oatmeal (Large soup plate full) with full cream/whole milk & fresh cream
A plate of bacon, eggs, tomato and toast
A couple of cups of tea

Lunch:

Large bowl of soup (tomato, pea, minestrone etc.) with rye bread
Cooked vegetables
Beef steak (2 Kg)
Desert
A couple of cups of tea with some chocolate
Also wine or milk stout(like Guiness)

Supper:

Same as lunch.

(Reg would consume Milk stout/Guiness as an aid when he needed to gain weight)

Plus a handful of dbols couple times a day.

Discuss?
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: The Wizard on September 23, 2011, 01:29:31 AM
Old school rules ... Todays "bodybuilding diet" is all about money for supplement companies. The body draws what it needs from a normal balanced diet. Your hair and nails grow every day regardless and they require more protein that muscle growth.
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: DK II on September 23, 2011, 02:23:30 AM
LOL @ 2kg steak for lunch.  ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: Figo on September 23, 2011, 02:32:28 AM
4kgs of meat a day? doubtful
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: Tito24 on September 23, 2011, 03:41:27 AM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Fzq94YVbHHM/SxAcmTeiveI/AAAAAAAAmVI/88Nw2rpFYYc/s1600/victims_of_synthol_45.jpg)
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: d0nny2600 on September 23, 2011, 05:08:01 AM
4kgs of meat a day? doubtful
You would be surprised what they used to eat.
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: DK II on September 23, 2011, 05:10:18 AM
You would be surprised what they used to eat.

Dianabol by the handful, yes, but 4kg of meat ed? Impossible.
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: Meso_z on September 23, 2011, 05:21:42 AM
Dianabol by the handful, yes, but 4kg of meat ed? Impossible.
They dont specify clearly enough what kind of "meat" they were "downing" by the kg's so..
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: DK II on September 23, 2011, 05:26:56 AM
They dont specify clearly enough what kind of "meat" they were "downing" by the kg's so..

Are you saying he got a job in the IFBB offices?
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: Meso_z on September 23, 2011, 05:30:23 AM
Are you saying he got a job in the IFBB offices?
Im simply saying that those "musclemen" of "yesteryear" had the same exact "habbits" as todays pros.
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: DK II on September 23, 2011, 05:32:36 AM
Im simply saying that those "musclemen" of "yesteryear" had the same exact "habbits" as todays pros.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: SF1900 on September 23, 2011, 05:59:18 AM
Meso, are you implying that Branch wastes $2,000 a month on food (  ::) ::) ), when he could be big and spend half that?  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: Meso_z on September 23, 2011, 07:57:53 AM
Meso, are you implying that Branch wastes $2,000 a month on food (  ::) ::) ), when he could be big and spend half that?  :o :o :o
;D
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: SF1900 on September 23, 2011, 08:10:24 AM
;D ;D ;D ;D




DK II are you implying that the musclemen of the past engaged in the same immoral activities of the pros today?  :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: DK II on September 23, 2011, 08:15:26 AM
DK II are you implying that the musclemen of the past engaged in the same immoral activities of the pros today?  :o :o :o :o

Maybe they don't have a problem with downing 4kg of "meat" ed.
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: dyslexic on September 23, 2011, 08:19:45 AM
Whats with all this "cream" that Reg and Vince Gironda spoke of?


Seriously, "Cream??"


Go to the store and ask the female clerk if she has any *cream*


Reg was only eating 3 meals a day and probably working like a lumber jack. He was probably still hungry through the night but was too busy humping.
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: SF1900 on September 23, 2011, 08:24:06 AM
Maybe they don't have a problem with downing 4kg of "meat" ed.

You think Joe W is that big?  :o :o
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: DK II on September 23, 2011, 08:25:34 AM
You think Joe W is that big?  :o :o

A typical bb diet consists of many small meals throughout the day...  :-X :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: SF1900 on September 23, 2011, 08:26:40 AM
A typical bb diet consists of many small meals throughout the day...  :-X :-X :-X :-X

Maybe they only took half in  :-\ :-\ :-X :-X
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: 240 is Back on September 23, 2011, 08:29:13 AM
wine with lunch,.... that reg park was a-okay in my book!
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: dyslexic on September 23, 2011, 08:32:30 AM
A wine cellar...

definitely part of today's protocol... along with the medicine cabinet.
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: andreisdaman on September 23, 2011, 08:45:56 AM
man..I live in NY city and its so goddamn hard to maintain a nice balanced diet when there is a restaurant on every corner..wish I could eat like Reg
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: The Wizard on September 23, 2011, 08:56:22 AM
He was a big dude
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: Thespritz0 on September 23, 2011, 01:39:05 PM
Sounds like how I ate once after having an Old English 800.  ONCE....  How could he do this daily???
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: BILL ANVIL on September 23, 2011, 02:36:45 PM
I followed Reg's diet and training all through my teens and its essentially what I built my foundation on. Eggs, honey, milk and lots of meat. Reg was all about simplicity and it really worked. Guy was a big strong dense mofo too and always look huge even standing next to Arnold. He'd be rolling over in his grave if he saw what a clusterfuck bodybuilding is today.


 
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: dr.chimps on September 23, 2011, 02:38:54 PM
Lots of D-bol. Lots of food.     ::)
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: TrueGrit on September 23, 2011, 02:40:04 PM
Don't really find any of it surprising. Those old-schoolers lived on full fat milk and steak..

Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: BILL ANVIL on September 23, 2011, 02:42:56 PM
Lots of D-bol. Lots of food.     ::)

and beer drinking late nights rec drugs and sex right ?  ::)
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: andreisdaman on September 23, 2011, 02:43:16 PM
He was a big dude

Reg destroys Arnold in that side-by-side photo
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: 240 is Back on September 23, 2011, 03:00:02 PM
I followed Reg's diet and training all through my teens and its essentially what I built my foundation on. Eggs, honey, milk and lots of meat. Reg was all about simplicity and it really worked. Guy was a big strong dense mofo too and always look huge even standing next to Arnold. He'd be rolling over in his grave if he saw what a clusterfuck bodybuilding is today.

who would today's comparison of him be?
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: dr.chimps on September 23, 2011, 03:03:57 PM
and beer drinking late nights rec drugs and sex right ?  ::)
Kind of. Reg usually, always, neglects to mention the daily amount of steroids he took/takes  - hence, my comment.   :)
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: BILL ANVIL on September 23, 2011, 03:17:39 PM
who would today's comparison of him be?

Good question 240, aren't many 6'2" powerhouses in bodybuilding anymore who train purely for strength and still look good. Better off comparing him to a Marvel comics superhero build, Clark Kent maybe  ???
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: BILL ANVIL on September 23, 2011, 03:21:04 PM
Kind of. Reg usually, always, neglects to mention the daily amount of steroids he took/takes  - hence, my comment.   :)

Well that may be, but he sure as hell wasn't a lazy ass. He lifted for himself not the fera.
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: dr.chimps on September 23, 2011, 03:23:58 PM
Well that may be, but he sure as hell wasn't a lazy ass. He lifted for himself not the fera.
Wasn't calling him on his laziness. Just his lack of (latter day) honesty.   ;)
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: BILL ANVIL on September 23, 2011, 03:41:57 PM
Wasn't calling him on his laziness. Just his lack of (latter day) honesty.   ;)

The drug use goes without saying, obviously.
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: BB on September 23, 2011, 04:04:08 PM
One of the more interesting diet myths came from the Saxon Brothers that were very famous back in their day, here's an except-

"
For breakfast they ate 24 eggs and 3 pounds of smoked bacon; porridge with cream, honey, marmalade and tea with plenty of sugar. At three o'clock they had dinner: ten pounds of meat was consumed with vegetables (but not much potatoes); sweet fruits, raw or cooked, sweet cakes, salads, sweet puddings, cocoa and whipped cream and very sweet tea. Supper, after the show, they had cold meat, smoked fish, much butter, cheese and beer. Following this they had a chat and at one o'clock went to bed.  " .

And their heath drink-

" The Saxons did have a "health drink" which I presume they concocted themselves. The ingredients were dark lager beer (or Dublin stout) mixed with Holland gin, the yolk of an egg and plenty of sugar. "It is a very good but strong drink" was the Saxon opinion, "but, if you are not used to it you will get dizzy very quickly." .
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: Meso_z on September 23, 2011, 09:19:26 PM
I followed Reg's diet and training all through my teens and its essentially what I built my foundation on. Eggs, honey, milk and lots of meat. Reg was all about simplicity and it really worked. Guy was a big strong dense mofo too and always look huge even standing next to Arnold. He'd be rolling over in his grave if he saw what a clusterfuck bodybuilding is today.


 
Maybe "Reg" had the "brains" the size of a peanut?
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: Your Average GymRat on September 23, 2011, 09:25:56 PM
I've never been impressed with Park's physique. No definition,an odd looking torso that doesn't match the legs, strange looking head, including the hair. Very over rated bodybuilder.
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: Hulkotron on September 23, 2011, 09:29:25 PM
LOL @ 2kg steak for lunch.  ::) ::) ::) ::)

Haha, and another one for dinner.  Yes I'm sure he ate nearly nine pounds of steak a day ::)
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: BILL ANVIL on September 23, 2011, 09:31:08 PM
I've never been impressed with Park's physique. No definition,an odd looking torso that doesn't match the legs, strange looking head, including the hair. Very over rated bodybuilder.

Because he wasn't about definition and being super ripped, he was all about being big and extremely strong. A real man's build with none of that pointless underwear model nonsense.
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 23, 2011, 09:37:36 PM
4kgs of meat a day? doubtful

Maybe, but back in the 70"s when I started it wasn't unusual to eat AT LEAST half that or more. Eat (anything) to get big and tuna and water for a show. Harcore was back then, now it's a cake walk.
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: Meso_z on September 23, 2011, 09:38:17 PM
Because he wasn't about definition and being super ripped, he was all about being big and extremely strong. A real man's build with none of that pointless underwear model nonsense.
I dont think they even called themseves "bodybuilders" back then, like todays tools do.
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: Hulkotron on September 23, 2011, 09:52:34 PM
If my calculations are correct (http://caloriecount.about.com/calories-beef-porterhouse-steak-i13469) 4 kg of steak is about 8000 kcal a day from steak alone lol.

(4 kg)*(2.205 lbs/kg)*(16 oz/lb) = 141.12 oz
(141.12 oz)*(173 kcal/3 oz) = 8138 kcal
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: DK II on September 23, 2011, 10:13:26 PM
If my calculations are correct (http://caloriecount.about.com/calories-beef-porterhouse-steak-i13469) 4 kg of steak is about 8000 kcal a day from steak alone lol.

(4 kg)*(2.205 lbs/kg)*(16 oz/lb) = 141.12 oz
(141.12 oz)*(173 kcal/3 oz) = 8138 kcal

Are you saying that Reg probably had lots of much smaller sausages throughout the day for his "protein intake" instead of huge steaks?
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: Hulkotron on September 23, 2011, 10:16:29 PM
Are you saying that Reg probably had lots of much smaller sausages throughout the day for his "protein intake" instead of huge steaks?

i am insinuating that Reg Park took his time at the all-you-can-eat Dianabol buffet while also participating in various other endeavors of the bodybuilding lifestyle.
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: DK II on September 23, 2011, 10:19:24 PM
i am insinuating that Reg Park took his time at the all-you-can-eat Dianabol buffet while also participating in various other endeavors of the bodybuilding lifestyle.

Are you saying he earned his money as a "bricklayer", like Arnold and Franco?  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 23, 2011, 10:27:56 PM
I dont think they even called themseves "bodybuilders" back then, like todays tools do.

Sure they did, bodybuilders back then were actual BODYBUILDERS, not these pansy ass, drug taking, lazy 'athletes" that call themselves "bodybuilders" today. Any pro's (current) on here feel free to chime in on this.
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: Hulkotron on September 23, 2011, 10:30:05 PM
Physique athletes
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: Meso_z on September 23, 2011, 10:31:46 PM
He got in pretty good condition for that time..

(http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/auto/r/350x0/e/5//e5ae3_ORIG-REG_PARK.jpg)

I wonder if they knew about diets to lose bf "back then" or it was all about "eating less".
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 23, 2011, 10:35:50 PM
He got in pretty good condition for that time..

(http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/auto/r/350x0/e/5//e5ae3_ORIG-REG_PARK.jpg)

I wonder if they knew about diets to lose bf "back then" or it was all about "eating less".

Fish and water for 4-6 weeks. No lie.
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: DK II on September 23, 2011, 10:36:59 PM
Fish and water for 4-6 weeks. No lie.

plus dianabol and primobolan.
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 23, 2011, 10:43:07 PM
plus dianabol and primobolan.

Whatever you want to think. Bottom line is, none of todays bodybuilders couldn't hang if they had to do now what they did back then. Drugs were around but they REALLY were the finishing touch. But even though you weren't around back then I'm sure you'll insist I' full of shit.
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: DK II on September 23, 2011, 10:50:59 PM
Whatever you want to think. Bottom line is, none of todays bodybuilders couldn't hang if they had to do now what they did back then. Drugs were around but they REALLY were the finishing touch. But even though you weren't around back then I'm sure you'll insist I' full of shit.

Yes.
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: Meso_z on September 23, 2011, 10:56:14 PM
Fish and water for 4-6 weeks. No lie.
Cool thanks..
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: Figo on September 24, 2011, 02:07:26 AM
I followed Reg's diet and training all through my teens and its essentially what I built my foundation on. Eggs, honey, milk and lots of meat. Reg was all about simplicity and it really worked. Guy was a big strong dense mofo too and always look huge even standing next to Arnold. He'd be rolling over in his grave if he saw what a clusterfuck bodybuilding is today.


 
he did, I met him a yr or 2 before his passing, 2006, I think.. things were already clusterfucked then
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: Figo on September 24, 2011, 02:08:19 AM
You would be surprised what they used to eat shit.
;D
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: StanZoLOL on September 24, 2011, 02:23:50 AM
I remember him saying he thought in his prime he could beat the champions of "today" (interview was done in the 90s) with no drugs.  Reg was cool, but quite delusional.
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: Figo on September 24, 2011, 02:49:33 AM
I remember him saying he thought in his prime he could beat the champions of "today" (interview was done in the 90s) with no drugs.  Reg was cool, but quite delusional.
there comes a time, when all the old-timers start becoming ridiculous in their claims and reminiscences, insulting people's intelligence

how little they used(if at all), how their genes were superior, how everything was better

franco claimed to have used only after becoming mr o
pearl was natural except for the one time he took 5mg dbol
mentzer preaching methods that were not what he used to become a successful pro

this shit goes all the way back to grimek
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: WillGrant on September 24, 2011, 03:46:19 AM
Fish and water for 4-6 weeks. No lie.
Which would have him losing all that muscle and lacking any fullness what so ever - the important bit you left out - funny that  ::) palm fulls of dball
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: andreisdaman on September 24, 2011, 05:45:05 AM
All of those guys were obviously lying .....look at the pic with Arnold...Arnold was on steroids at that time and Arnold was a rare specimen as a human being....Park is bigger and looks better than Arnold...there is no way he was only on fish, steak, water, fruits and veggies plus milk.....
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: Reeves on September 24, 2011, 06:19:02 AM
All his life Reg Park seemed a man of honor.  There are more than few here and thoughout the interwebs that would salve their own egos and pharmaceutical transgressions by claiming that Reg, Reeves and other early physical culturists and lifters in general used steroids.

Fuck that noise.

Prove it.  It cannot be done. 

It's the same with claims of these men fagging off for money.  We had an old queen at at gym I used to lift at years ago that used to squeal on and on that "back in the day" Reeves was the "highest paid hustler in Hollywood".  I asked him to submit proof.  Outside his sordid homo fantasies of priapic tummy stick fights, he couldn't.

Jealousy doesn't become real men.  But then this is, Getbig... ;)
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: WillGrant on September 24, 2011, 06:24:07 AM
All his life Reg Park seemed a man of honor.  There are more than few here and thoughout the interwebs that would salve their own egos and pharmaceutical transgressions by claiming that Reg, Reeves and other early physical culturists and lifters in general used steroids.

Fuck that noise.

Prove it.  It cannot be done.  

It's the same with claims of these men fagging off for money.  We had an old queen at at gym I used to lift at years ago that used to squeal on and on that "back in the day" Reeves was the "highest paid hustler in Hollywood".  I asked him to submit proof.  Outside his sordid homo fantasies of priapic tummy stick fights, he couldn't.

Jealousy doesn't become real men.  But then this is, Getbig... ;)
So you are saying Reg is clean ?  ??? - I dont think jealousy is involved with any of the calling out of these guys - everyone here respects honesty , all these kunts lie and thats where it comes from , he and every prick from that era that was honest would gain more respect with being just that ---> honest... but they chose to lie so they can go fuck themselves the lot of them , silly old fucks  ::)
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: DK II on September 24, 2011, 06:26:28 AM
So you are saying Reg is clean ?  ??? - I dont think jealousy is involved with any of the calling out of these guys - everyone here respects honesty , all these kunts lie and thats where it comes from , he and every prick from that era that was honest would gain more respect than being just that ---> honest... but they chose to lie so they can go fuck themselves the lot of them , silly old fucks  ::)

Yes, this "We were the better bodybuilders back in the days and all guys after us used steroids" bullshit is really lame.

It was lame with Larry Scott and Reg Park, but it is getting ridiculous with 90s bodybuilders now claiming to be natural.
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: andreisdaman on September 24, 2011, 06:28:27 AM
All his life Reg Park seemed a man of honor.  There are more than few here and thoughout the interwebs that would salve their own egos and pharmaceutical transgressions by claiming that Reg, Reeves and other early physical culturists and lifters in general used steroids.

Fuck that noise.

Prove it.  It cannot be done. 

It's the same with claims of these men fagging off for money.  We had an old queen at at gym I used to lift at years ago that used to squeal on and on that "back in the day" Reeves was the "highest paid hustler in Hollywood".  I asked him to submit proof.  Outside his sordid homo fantasies of priapic tummy stick fights, he couldn't.

Jealousy doesn't become real men.  But then this is, Getbig... ;)

I think that where there is smoke there is usually fire......its human nature......wherever you have large muscular men, there is going to be guys who lust after them and are willing to pay for the privilege of being with them...if you go to a strip club, where there are beautiful shapely women...there are people there who will pay for the privilege to be with them....its human nature,,in my mind it doesn't diminish these men in any way..(depending on how it is done)..it's business.....its people using their assets (bodies) for financial gain, which has been going on for centuries
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: Reeves on September 24, 2011, 06:46:27 AM
So you are saying Reg is clean ?  ??? - I dont think jealousy is involved with any of the calling out of these guys - everyone here respects honesty , all these kunts lie and thats where it comes from , he and every prick from that era that was honest would gain more respect with being just that ---> honest... but they chose to lie so they can go fuck themselves the lot of them , silly old fucks  ::)

I tend to believe Reg and for that matter Reeves.  There is no real reason to doubt them save to salve our own egos.  If they used steroids, especially so Reg then why did he not improve dramatically in the later years, i.e., the later sixties early seventies when such drugs were more prevalent and far more readily available?

Reeves of course, did not compete into those years as did Reg but again, looking at Park's physique I see no dramatic improvement that would indicate AAS use.  He doesn't "dwarf" Arnold, but neither is he made to look bad by the Oak.  Remember, Reg was a very big man with a large bone structure capable of supporting heavy musculature.  He trained hard and heavy, ate well (and often) and had been doing so since the late forties/early fifties. 

Contrast Reg with Coleman. I would rather look like a man (Park) than a comic book caricature (Coleman).   People will justify their own useage by insisting those that succeeded without drugs, did in fact take drugs.  Somehow for them, absence of genuine proof is proof enough. 
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: DK II on September 24, 2011, 06:47:58 AM
I am pretty sure i read somewhere that Reg Park tested Dianabol for Ziegler.
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: Reeves on September 24, 2011, 06:51:01 AM
I think that where there is smoke there is usually fire......its human nature......wherever you have large muscular men, there is going to be guys who lust after them and are willing to pay for the privilege of being with them...if you go to a strip club, where there are beautiful shapely women...there are people there who will pay for the privilege to be with them....its human nature,,in my mind it doesn't diminish these men in any way..(depending on how it is done)..it's business.....its people using their assets (bodies) for financial gain, which has been going on for centuries

There can be no doubt that fags like muscles and are more than willing to pay for it.  Witness the sad example of Bay and you know it to be true, but not all bodybuilders are willing to be pin cushions for cash and I seriously doubt Park and Reeves did so.  There is no representative proof of either man smoking wang but I will grant you there are plenty of photographic examples of schmomosexuality gone fucking wild from way back.
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on September 24, 2011, 06:54:02 AM
Fish and water for 4-6 weeks. No lie.
Actually coach is probably one of the best resources on this board for what an old school diet. Guy has been around before nutrition facts were printing on food labels. Hell he is older then fucking dirt  ;D. 4-6 weeks of fish and water only could probably get you down to single digits (7-9%), which most of these guys were when they competed.
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: che on September 24, 2011, 06:57:10 AM
Reg Park, oh brother  ::)

Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: Thespritz0 on September 24, 2011, 08:02:23 AM
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One of the more interesting diet myths came from the Saxon Brothers that were very famous back in their day, here's an except-

"
For breakfast they ate 24 eggs and 3 pounds of smoked bacon; porridge with cream, honey, marmalade and tea with plenty of sugar. At three o'clock they had dinner: ten pounds of meat was consumed with vegetables (but not much potatoes); sweet fruits, raw or cooked, sweet cakes, salads, sweet puddings, cocoa and whipped cream and very sweet tea. Supper, after the show, they had cold meat, smoked fish, much butter, cheese and beer. Following this they had a chat and at one o'clock went to bed.  " .

And their heath drink-
^^
WHY are they drinking Phil Heath??  He's Mr. Olympia for God sakes....
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: Thespritz0 on September 24, 2011, 08:10:07 AM
 There is no representative proof of either man smoking wang but I will grant you there are plenty of photographic examples of schmomosexuality gone fucking wild from way back.
^^
Do you have any of these photos to share??
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on September 24, 2011, 08:23:04 AM
Reg Park, oh brother  ::)


I agree che. We all had our Arnold fascinations at one point but i think people tend to over glorify bodybuilders of the past. Fact of the matter is Reg Park at his peak would struggle to win a local area show and Arnold would be stuck at the national level for years.
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: dyslexic on September 24, 2011, 08:25:40 AM
there comes a time, when all the old-timers start becoming ridiculous in their claims and reminiscences, insulting people's intelligence

how little they used(if at all), how their genes were superior, how everything was better

franco claimed to have used only after becoming mr o
pearl was natural except for the one time he took 5mg dbol
mentzer preaching methods that were not what he used to become a successful pro

this shit goes all the way back to grimek


All, good points.


Us older dudes gotta remember how soon we become demented. Sux.


Clinging to the past. Bad mistake.
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: che on September 24, 2011, 08:28:17 AM
I agree che. We all had our Arnold fascinations at one point but i think people tend to over glorify bodybuilders of the past. Fact of the matter is Reg Park at his peak would struggle to win a local area show and Arnold would be stuck at the national level for years.
I agree but I was just trolling.
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: andreisdaman on September 24, 2011, 10:24:59 AM
I tend to believe Reg and for that matter Reeves.  There is no real reason to doubt them save to salve our own egos.  If they used steroids, especially so Reg then why did he not improve dramatically in the later years, i.e., the later sixties early seventies when such drugs were more prevalent and far more readily available?

Reeves of course, did not compete into those years as did Reg but again, looking at Park's physique I see no dramatic improvement that would indicate AAS use.  He doesn't "dwarf" Arnold, but neither is he made to look bad by the Oak.  Remember, Reg was a very big man with a large bone structure capable of supporting heavy musculature.  He trained hard and heavy, ate well (and often) and had been doing so since the late forties/early fifties. 

Contrast Reg with Coleman. I would rather look like a man (Park) than a comic book caricature (Coleman).   People will justify their own useage by insisting those that succeeded without drugs, did in fact take drugs.  Somehow for them, absence of genuine proof is proof enough. 

I'm not going to put you down for believing Reg.....I think its admirable of you to stick by Reg....but human nature suggests otherwise.....competitor s in any given sport do not talk about "enhancements" because they are afraid it would diminish them in the eyes of their fellow athletes.....especially when said enhancement is new to that particular sport.....

Baseball players only grudgingly admitted that the were using steroids.....and some such as
roger Clemons and Rafael Palmiero still won't admit it.....even though Palmiero tesed positive later....the manliness of sports dictates that you have to achieve your accomplishments on your own using hard work and practice with out any "help" or you are not a true athlete in the minds of your peers..or the public
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: BILL ANVIL on September 26, 2011, 09:36:39 PM
Sure they did, bodybuilders back then were actual BODYBUILDERS, not these pansy ass, drug taking, lazy 'athletes" that call themselves "bodybuilders" today. Any pro's (current) on here feel free to chime in on this.

F#cken' eh man, great post and total truth right there.
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: BILL ANVIL on September 26, 2011, 09:48:16 PM
Yes.

Hes not full of shit, those guys were far from druggies back then and Reg busted his ass to get the lifts he did. 500lb bench press, 225lb barbell curls, 185lb incline dumbbell bench presses, 600lb squats. Guy had a huge frame was strong as hell and came from an athletic background with a hard working competitive spirit and desire to get big and strong. Completely different mentality and fundamentals than the guys today pumping themselves full of drugs trying to earn a living wearing a thong because they're too lazy to work a real job. Reg didnt do this for money or fame, he was a successful businessman who trained only for himself. Im telling you the guys back then were a different breed and had totally different intentions, motivations and outlooks on what the pursuit of a superior physique is supposed to be.
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: The Wizard on September 26, 2011, 11:54:12 PM
Hes not full of shit, those guys were far from druggies back then and Reg busted his ass to get the lifts he did. 500lb bench press, 225lb barbell curls, 185lb incline dumbbell bench presses, 600lb squats. Guy had a huge frame was strong as hell and came from an athletic background with a hard working competitive spirit and desire to get big and strong. Completely different mentality and fundamentals than the guys today pumping themselves full of drugs trying to earn a living wearing a thong because they're too lazy to work a real job. Reg didnt do this for money or fame, he was a successful businessman who trained only for himself. Im telling you the guys back then were a different breed and had totally different intentions, motivations and outlooks on what the pursuit of a superior physique is supposed to be.
Agreed. You only have to look at how much size they lost back in the '50's and early '60's when dieting for a competition to know they weren't on drugs. Steroids came in in the mid/late '60's
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: StanZoLOL on September 27, 2011, 03:36:59 AM
Reg's competition wins and best lifts were done in the early 50s, too. Was he on something? Who knows. But probably wasn't dbol in 1949-1953, was it? ;)

Second man to bench 500, too. Done at a far lower BW than Doug Hepburn.
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: andreisdaman on September 27, 2011, 07:00:52 AM
There can be no doubt that fags like muscles and are more than willing to pay for it.  Witness the sad example of Bay and you know it to be true, but not all bodybuilders are willing to be pin cushions for cash and I seriously doubt Park and Reeves did so.  There is no representative proof of either man smoking wang but I will grant you there are plenty of photographic examples of schmomosexuality gone fucking wild from way back.

well I am not saying that they did in fact engage in this type of thing...but in the Hollywood of that time there was rampant homosexuality...Rock Hudson....Cary Grant.....Marlon Brando......a few others that slip my mind right now......it could be a possibility that Reeves could have taken part for extra money and role consideration in movies....many of the film execs of the time were closet fags.....and many of the great leading men of Hollywood were found by talent scouts who were fags as well...which is why there were so many great handsome leading men in the 50's......
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: BILL ANVIL on September 27, 2011, 07:33:56 AM
Reg's competition wins and best lifts were done in the early 50s, too. Was he on something? Who knows. But probably wasn't dbol in 1949-1953, was it? ;)

Second man to bench 500, too. Done at a far lower BW than Doug Hepburn.

Hepburn was a fatso, Reg was the first muscular man to bench 500 at a BW of about 225 I think. I think he was that strong mainly because of his massive structure and work ethic, and i'm sure drugs weren't as rampant in the 50's when he did those lifts compared to the late 60's.
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: BILL ANVIL on September 27, 2011, 07:42:52 AM
I agree che. We all had our Arnold fascinations at one point but i think people tend to over glorify bodybuilders of the past. Fact of the matter is Reg Park at his peak would struggle to win a local area show and Arnold would be stuck at the national level for years.


Thats because todays bodybuilding culture has a fucked up perception of what the ideal physique should look like. And Reg was a powerlifter more so than a 'bodybuilder', dont even know if he considered himself that.
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: crownshep on September 27, 2011, 07:58:17 AM
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: StanZoLOL on September 27, 2011, 09:14:38 AM
Hepburn was a fatso, Reg was the first muscular man to bench 500 at a BW of about 225 I think. I think he was that strong mainly because of his massive structure and work ethic, and i'm sure drugs weren't as rampant in the 50's when he did those lifts compared to the late 60's.

Yeah, 500 @ 225. Fantastic lift obviously even by today's (drugged) standards. Who knows if he used, sure he prolly did in the 60s and could of even used an early version of testosterone, but dbol wasn't even available in the early 50s when hit his bench record.
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: kevcat on September 27, 2011, 09:42:42 AM
I presume he never entered a Mr Olympia then? Any reason for this? Im sure he entered other contests like the Universe and won?
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: Meso_z on September 27, 2011, 09:48:17 AM
I presume he never entered a Mr Olympia then? Any reason for this? Im sure he entered other contests like the Universe and won?
Maybe he did not have aspirations of oiling up and steping on a stage with a thong?
Title: Re: Reg Parks diet.
Post by: BILL ANVIL on September 27, 2011, 10:04:00 AM
Maybe he did not have aspirations of oiling up and steping on a stage with a thong?

I would say you're right. He was a mans man and might not of even liked the idea of shaving his chest before he did step on stage. Big powerful lumberjack outdoorsmen don't tend to do that kind of thing.