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Title: Is regular clen usage dangerous?
Post by: goomba420 on September 23, 2011, 07:13:23 PM
zyzz was a HUGE clen user - died of heart problems, and linked below is a medical journal about a 17 yr old BBer (using clen) presenting with a heart attack  - is it really that dangerous?

http://www.sportmedicine.ru/articles/myocardial_infarction_in_a_17-year-old_body_builder_using_clenbuterol.pdf

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16127201

Quote
A few days before hospitalization, the
boy finished a 2-week period of taking oral clenbuterol
(Spiropent 20 mg; 1 tablet twice daily for 2 days, with a
subsequent 2-day break)
Title: Re: Is regular clen usage dangerous?
Post by: DK II on September 23, 2011, 08:05:52 PM
Well i doubt that two weeks of 40mcg would be able to do that, but i would definitely say that i wouldn't take it for longer periods, same with Yohimbin HCl and ephedrine.

Personally, i tried it once and will never touch the stuff again, gave me real high blood pressure and i felt like total shit all the time.
Title: Re: Is regular clen usage dangerous?
Post by: tstmaniac on September 23, 2011, 08:39:38 PM
What the fuck is a 17 year old using clen anyways his metabolism is fast enough...he probably was using shitty research or ugl and using much higher doses than he thought
Title: Re: Is regular clen usage dangerous?
Post by: DK II on September 23, 2011, 10:09:08 PM
What the fuck is a 17 year old using clen anyways his metabolism is fast enough...he probably was using shitty research or ugl and using much higher doses than he thought

plus he was probably lying to his doc about his use.
Title: Re: Is regular clen usage dangerous?
Post by: nosleep on September 23, 2011, 10:11:36 PM
What the fuck is a 17 year old using clen anyways his metabolism is fast enough...he probably was using shitty research or ugl and using much higher doses than he thought

BLANKET STATEMENT.

NOT EVERY 17 YEAR OLD HAS THE SAME METABOLISM.
Title: Re: Is regular clen usage dangerous?
Post by: hangclean on September 24, 2011, 03:09:22 PM
What the fuck is a 17 year old using clen anyways his metabolism is fast enough...he probably was using shitty research or ugl and using much higher doses than he thought
Not if he was in thailand when he died.  THey sell human grade clen in any local pharmacy over there and it's dirt cheap.  I doubt he was only using 40mcg's a day, though.
Title: Re: Is regular clen usage dangerous?
Post by: Arnold jr on September 24, 2011, 09:23:43 PM
Clen can cause cardiac hypertrophy this much is very true. However, it is in most cases unlikely if the individual supplements responsibly. This doesn't refer only to the dosing but total duration of use as well but both are important. It does seem unlikely that this would occur if the guy in question was running such a low dose, even so we don't know how long he'd been supplementing, how high his doses had been before those two weeks and if any other heart damaging agents had been present at any time.
Title: Re: Is regular clen usage dangerous?
Post by: tstmaniac on September 25, 2011, 10:38:21 AM
Not if he was in thailand when he died.  THey sell human grade clen in any local pharmacy over there and it's dirt cheap.  I doubt he was only using 40mcg's a day, though.

So people in thailand don't use ugl? I'm just sayin because most people who run into problems with clen are because its not pharm grade
Title: Re: Is regular clen usage dangerous?
Post by: DK II on September 25, 2011, 04:43:01 PM
So people in thailand don't use ugl? I'm just sayin because most people who run into problems with clen are because its not pharm grade

When was the last time you used UG aspirine?

The stuff is available in any pharmacy, why would they use UG?
Title: Re: Is regular clen usage dangerous?
Post by: tstmaniac on September 25, 2011, 08:30:47 PM
Assuming he used hg or ugl is all speculation there no proof..I find it very hard to believe he was using only using 40mcgs unless he had prior undiagnosed cardiac problem
Title: Re: Is regular clen usage dangerous?
Post by: hangclean on September 25, 2011, 11:20:28 PM
So people in thailand don't use ugl? I'm just sayin because most people who run into problems with clen are because its not pharm grade
If he had an underlying heart condition and he was sitting in a sauna for hours on end like the report said, then yes, he could fuck himself up with 40mcg's of clen.
Title: Re: Is regular clen usage dangerous?
Post by: tstmaniac on September 26, 2011, 07:04:43 AM
I agree with underlying heart problem in the above post
Title: Re: Is regular clen usage dangerous?
Post by: matrixgh on September 27, 2011, 09:14:58 AM
I will never use clean again, no mather on how many shit Iam on always lose muscle size and cant do legs gives me alot of cramps, efedra way better no side and better results