Getbig.com: American Bodybuilding, Fitness and Figure

Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: gh15 on September 26, 2011, 12:18:06 AM

Title: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: gh15 on September 26, 2011, 12:18:06 AM
due to popular demand,,
those are must hormone in blood for top amatuer and ofcourse profesional,, insulina and hgh are not a must for fitness model level phsyiqes eventhough today fitness model fellas are on hgh every few months then off,, in general those 5 hormones here are must inorder to get high in the ranks of npc competetive bodybuild aka national and then profeisional ,, local competition can do with out insulina and hgh ,, some do it completly natural but dont expect anything better than 3-5 placing in your class in the local if truly natural and that class will never be heavy or light heavy or super heavy kt will be light weight or middle weight as true natural ,,and thats if you have very good genetic and only! in local which is not national or profesional ofcourse

1. HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE,, with out it there is no pro conditioned size,, no matter how much you will jump and shout from morning to night,, no human growth hormone in blood with the window of 6 months writen in bible = no pro conditioned size and no pro card

2. TRENBOLONA ACE,, this is the most important most most most importanto anabolic steroids you can ever put into your blood,, it is more important than any other hormone even more important than hgh when it come to muscle condition,,
with out trenbolona ace THERE IS ABSOLITLY NO ADVANCE BODYBUILDER,,bodybuild with no trenbolona ace doesnt will always hear he look good...but never great,, will alwys hear yes you look good fella but but remember in the summer....remember when you were seperated and chest and deltd were huge and you were shred to pieces ,, that time you were better ,, i dont say you dont look good friend but its not what you were few month back ,, this! is what you hear when bodybuild is not on trenbolona ace!

trenbolona ace is the ONLY steroid that will let you eat anything,, you can eat icecream on this steroid and grow lean and ripped,, you can eat buns you can eat sushi ,, you can eat normal! and be shred! it is an aas with the capacity to get you in condition quite fast while at the same time growing you in the lean muscle departmnt ,, it grow you and burn fat same time,, you see it mainly to begin with by the vein poping out everywhere they go up from under the water and start poping all around if lean to begin with ,, thennn the seperation start occuring ,, it is daily changes not weekly ,, daily change on doses of 100-200 mg every day or 2 ,, you talk here about real fast changes,, and ofcourse after few months you are a walking competetive bodybuild ,, highly impressive when it come to condition withsmall waist depending on your hgh and insulina intake...with no insulina you will have 30 inch waist while you are 210lb ! when on trenbolona ace,, it is only! on trenbolona ace when the skin attach itself to the muscle in the attractive way you see in a magazine where the girl take a look and pondering why her man doesnt look even remotely close to it,, it is combo of THICKNESS AND! CONDITION which is considered shreded to ripped depending on the time you been on trenbolona ace,, the longer you are on it the more invinsible you come condition wize and the more lean size you pack on you ,, and! the more impressive you look even when weight on scale come to a stop because even then! bodyfat continue to go down ,, ALL WITH ZERO CARDIO!


3. insulina,, with out insulina you will never create a mutation on a larger fella,, a 5'8+ fella with no insulina in blood will never create mutatition ,, he will never be able to poses the 240lb+ on stage you see now day ,,insulina in today bodybuild and with deep pain i say this...is a mustyou just wont get to 240 you will be 210 with out insulina

4. testosterona,, it has to be there at some dose prefebly cycling depending on prep timing or not,, testosterona is a hormone to THICKEN an already lean physiqe,, it also keep stamina and keep your MOOD at the right place,, it can fuck up condition when abused especialy when prep and especialy! when not done according to your lean muscle ,, a 200lb 5'9 fella do not prep on 1 gram testosterona for show! the end,, again testosterona is important and need to be taken sometime in higher doses to grow but it is ONLY when you have high hgh in blood ,, testosterona intake shoudl be paralel line to hgh intake ,, if you cant aford hgh or dont have it ...the testosterona doses should go DOWN

5. equipona ,, as important as testosterona ,, but testosterona is rated higher because it has medical application and it is the main hormone in all human body,, equipona is second best anabolic for bodybuild,, it grow you from the inside out slowly,, it cupp your delt very nice and it add polish to your look that only a bodyhbuild can see and recognize,, it is again attractive skin look that is wraped around muscle almost like a vaccum,, for final vaccum trenbolona and then diuretic are introduced

gh15 approved

Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Meso_z on September 26, 2011, 12:22:52 AM
Thanks..
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: freakycalves20 on September 26, 2011, 12:29:08 AM
you spell worse then me.... who the hell wants to listen to you when you cant even post your real name.. i even asked for you to come on my show but you put me down instead. your a fraud..
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Garb316HHH on September 26, 2011, 12:33:20 AM
you spell worse then me.... who the hell wants to listen to you when you cant even post your real name.. i even asked for you to come on my show but you put me down instead. your a fraud..

Ey, man. Shut the fuck up, freakycalves.

Thanx, GH15. If I can add something to the board. I had my best results combining Tren Ace and Test. Propionate. I absolutely love Trenbolone Acetate.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Palpatine Q on September 26, 2011, 12:46:20 AM
Ey, man. Shut the fuck up, freakycalves.

Thanx, GH15. If I can add something to the board. I had my best results combining Tren Ace and Test. Propionate. I absolutely love Trenbolone Acetate.

This is all you need  8)
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Trev on September 26, 2011, 12:50:11 AM
If you value your life, ignore this post.
GH15, you should be banned from posting this kind of stuff to impressionable youngsters.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: epic_alien on September 26, 2011, 12:50:24 AM
i thought you were natural dude?
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: DK II on September 26, 2011, 12:50:58 AM
nice
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: DK II on September 26, 2011, 12:51:51 AM
If you value your life, ignore this post.
GH15, you should be banned from posting this kind of stuff to impressionable youngsters.

STFU, "Trev".
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: gh15 on September 26, 2011, 01:07:37 AM
If you value your life, ignore this post.
GH15, you should be banned from posting this kind of stuff to impressionable youngsters.

you can kiss my ass,, and then bend over ,,you telling me what to ppost? who the fuck are you to tell god of hormones what to write?

TRUTH! is the way to heaven TRUTH! ,,when i die angels will lift me up to heaven ,, when the filths die they will be dragged before the all mighty that will show them their sins before throwing them into the fires of hell ,, they think this time wil never come but oh it will

gh15 approved
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Trev on September 26, 2011, 01:19:06 AM
you can kiss my ass,, and then bend over ,,you telling me what to ppost? who the fuck are you to tell god of hormones what to write?

TRUTH! is the way to heaven TRUTH! ,,when i die angels will lift me up to heaven ,, when the filths die they will be dragged before the all mighty that will show them their sins before throwing them into the fires of hell ,, they think this time wil never come but oh it will

gh15 approved
You know that these drugs should ONLY be used under supervision and ONLY at the very highest level of competitive bodybuilding if that person deems the rewards worth the risk.
Just you couldn't build any muscle without them ....
The GH15 account is so full on contradictions its ridiculous. One minute you love aesthetic, next you are spouting off about all thse drugs which will bloat you up and make you look like shit.
All of you who make up this account should at least agree to sing from the same hymn sheet.

I hope you can live with yourself when some teenager follows your "advice" without supervision and kills himself.

You are all that is so bad about 21st century bodybuilding.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Secret Stack on September 26, 2011, 01:29:58 AM
you spell worse then me.... who the hell wants to listen to you when you cant even post your real name.. i even asked for you to come on my show but you put me down instead. your a fraud..

haha, sucker! lol. i remember that.
lolll...gh15 posted your pm lol..."pm questioned answered" and it was you asking him to come on your show and he fucken ripped you a new asshole in public lol...

you were all like, "hey gh15, i love you and you have some really good things to say and you know your shit and i will suck your dick if you come on my show" and then he posted your pm in public, lol!!
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: gh15 on September 26, 2011, 01:35:50 AM
You know that these drugs should ONLY be used under supervision and ONLY at the very highest level of competitive bodybuilding if that person deems the rewards worth the risk.
Just you couldn't build any muscle without them ....
The GH15 account is so full on contradictions its ridiculous. One minute you love aesthetic, next you are spouting off about all thse drugs which will bloat you up and make you look like shit.
All of you who make up this account should at least agree to sing from the same hymn sheet.

I hope you can live with yourself when some teenager follows your "advice" without supervision and kills himself.

You are all that is so bad about 21st century bodybuilding.

not only that they all follow what i say and its one fella behind gh15, BUT! every single fella on every boarding on internet that has bodybuilding in its title ...follow what i say ,, for some damned reason this cult has in it the utmost liars you will ever find,, they just sit and lie,, like ron heris who is ADDICT TO TRENBOLONA,, HE CANT EVEN GET IN CONDITION WITH OUT THIS DRUG ,, YET ...HE LIE,, like any other liar in the cult too many to count ,,

what gh15 does is gods work,, it is saving those fellas money from spending on that GARBAGE human danta and sons junk balonie supplement,, gh15 save them money and put the money into the right place into where true growth will happen ,,

those kidos and many of them are no kidfs they are in their 30s,, many of them want to be proud in their bodybuild,, they want to present a body to be proud of not to be some 160lb 4rth place in local mr chikitita ks ,,they want to be able to make money out of fitnes modeling,, they want to suceeed in bodybuild,, they want to get attention EVEN WHEN SHIRT IT ON! they dont want for fellas to thikn if they are bodybuild when shirt is on or to not think they are anything,, they want to look like conditioned bodybuild with or with out shirt!,, and gh15 get them one step closer to it,,

gh15 is a main main main reason for many of the pros you see walking now day ,, do i personaly agreee with everyone who got pro card? no i dont ,, but gh15 directly is responsible for many of the up and coming profesionals

i am happy about what i did because i SAVED THEM YEARS AND MONEY,, i saved them fights with their parents ,, i saved them fights with their grilfriends,, i saved them the boring chiken and brokly diets,, i saved them years of being misereble!,, why do you think they treat me with so much respect,,

for! they are ALL my kids

all my pupils friend

gh15 approved
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Diesel495 on September 26, 2011, 01:39:44 AM
Bio gen are the biggest scamming crap u can find on The market. They sell it with ridiculous price then fill the vial with cooking oil

This is all you need  8)
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Palpatine Q on September 26, 2011, 01:44:43 AM
Bio gen are the biggest scamming crap u can find on The market. They sell it with ridiculous price then fill the vial with cooking oil


Really...worked perfectly fine for me, and i got it at a very good price. I'm sure you could find someone to say bad shit about every lab
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Trev on September 26, 2011, 01:46:01 AM
GH15 - You talk crap. Everyone who has been on here for years knows the GH15 account is a gimmick of several people - One minute you are writing in fluent English, next you are writing like a European in broken English.

The account is a gimmick, you claim this and claim that but its all talk.

You CAN build a great foundation of muscle on good food and intelligent training. You tell these youngsters that they have to risk their lives and blow huge amounts of money to fulfill their bodybuilding goals when you know they are never going to make it to being pros. You talk Fitness models well they certainly don't need to do all these drugs and hormones to achieve that physique.

Only teenagers and morons in their 20's listen to you on here. The rest of us know you are just a low life nothing who has never even seen a bodybuilding stage let alone posed on one with the best.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on September 26, 2011, 01:48:54 AM
Insulin in large doses, 120iu+ daily, blew me up but blew my waist up so I will not use it other than pre-training 15iu every again.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: gh15 on September 26, 2011, 01:55:50 AM
tevis,, why dont you say the truth,, if you were anything in the cult you would atleast say the truth ,, i dont expect anyoen to be mr o or top competitor pro,, i been there it takes MUCH MORE ABUSE OF DRUGS THAN WHAT I WRITE HERE,, im talking from the mountain ...like moses i already been there i know exactly what it take,, yues  genetic respond to hormone matter but also every single thing i write about hormone will have to be there,,

the gh15 is not gimick,, one fella is behind it,, it is because of filths such as your fella liars that claim for natural balonie that the cult look like what it looked like until i came and clean this balonie,,

the truth of the matter is that i have HUGE FOLLOWING,, the gh15 has huge following to a point i cant even answer pms it is just too much in a day ,, i would hav eto spend a lot of time on all this,, i try but its too much for one fella to do ,,


the need for truth is strong in the cult of bodybuild ,, and i was the first one who came out with the truth,, THE REAL LEGIT TRUTH,, wether some like it or not it is the truth friend,,

i took specific calculated risks in doing so and if i came down i made sure that another operation raw deal will happen but this time led by fda into the LEGAL SUPP INDUSTRY ,, so im as safe as it can be,,

as i said before only one female knwo who i am and she will go to her death bed with it she gave me her word when she invited me to getbig back many years ago,,

if you dont like my recomndations,, if you like the reality and the reality is this:

5'10 170lb 6% upper body 8% lower body,, local mr poondak 3rtd place or 4rth place ....if you like this ...then go ahead and continue in your natural endevour,, the reality of the mater is....you used hormones too,, like every bodybuiold,, even the fucked up naturals been to fat burners and halodrol turinabol lol ,, who do youi think you sell balonie to?

this is one thing i dont like about this cult,, the fellons and nasty nasty attitude from some in it,,

i revealed the truth for EVERYONE to see,, they faced it and saw it,, gh15 been through million tests and itys popularity only grew with the years,,

i am the subjects of million treads a day on many diff boardings that im tired of hearing about,, my name gh15 is in every gym around the world,, fellas actualy talk about gh15 like it is real person ,, they dont talk about me!! they talk about gh15 like he is their big brother or best friend,,

it became HUGE,, the following is huge,, and the tempting to make money of it was there but i canceled it for gh15 will go down in history as MOSES,, he brougth them to the promise land and left them to enter it by themselves

gh15 approved
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Trev on September 26, 2011, 01:56:03 AM
Insulin in large doses, 120iu+ daily, blew me up but blew my waist up so I will not use it other than pre-training 15iu every again.
Unless you are already a pro and have the genetics of a Heath or Kai, you'd have to be a complete moron to take Insulin.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: DK II on September 26, 2011, 01:56:45 AM
GH15 - You talk crap. Everyone who has been on here for years knows the GH15 account is a gimmick of several people - One minute you are writing in fluent English, next you are writing like a European in broken English.

The account is a gimmick, you claim this and claim that but its all talk.

You CAN build a great foundation of muscle on good food and intelligent training. You tell these youngsters that they have to risk their lives and blow huge amounts of money to fulfill their bodybuilding goals when you know they are never going to make it to being pros. You talk Fitness models well they certainly don't need to do all these drugs and hormones to achieve that physique.

Only teenagers and morons in their 20's listen to you on here. The rest of us know you are just a low life nothing who has never even seen a bodybuilding stage let alone posed on one with the best.

STFU, Trev.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Siimply on September 26, 2011, 02:00:39 AM
GH15 what do you think of nandrolone if already lean to begin with ?
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Trev on September 26, 2011, 02:01:57 AM
STFU, Trev.

You have been on here for years, you know this is a gimmick account. There is a responsibility to the youngsters who log on here thinking that GETBIG is the bible of bodybuilding.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: gh15 on September 26, 2011, 02:03:52 AM
Unless you are already a pro and have the genetics of a Heath or Kai, you'd have to be a complete moron to take Insulin.

how do you think kuklo ths kid became 260lb? his little pet bird prayed a lot in her cage to make her owner 260? ,, he drank insulina and hgh ,, this is what you fellas dont get ,, thre tropipon fella fed him that early on ,, then he failed he was another version of failed bodybuiodl tropipon and only then when failedddd and i interfered with specific advices ...he advanced,, he also went out of that nasty group ,, and advanced,, but insulina introduction was right there,, with hgh ,,

this is THE ONLY 2 THING THAT WILL BLOW YOU UP HGH AND INSULINA ,, YOU CAN EAT TRENBOLONA FROM NOW UNTIL DOOM DAY  WONT DO NOTHING TO GET PRO SIZE UNLESS HGH AND INSULINA COME IN AND IN HIGHER DOSES

gh15 approved
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Trev on September 26, 2011, 02:05:53 AM
tevis,, why dont you say the truth,, if you were anything in the cult you would atleast say the truth ,, i dont expect anyoen to be mr o or top competitor pro,, i been there it takes MUCH MORE ABUSE OF DRUGS THAN WHAT I WRITE HERE,, im talking from the mountain ...like moses i already been there i know exactly what it take,, yues  genetic respond to hormone matter but also every single thing i write about hormone will have to be there,,

the gh15 is not gimick,, one fella is behind it,, it is because of filths such as your fella liars that claim for natural balonie that the cult look like what it looked like until i came and clean this balonie,,

the truth of the matter is that i have HUGE FOLLOWING,, the gh15 has huge following to a point i cant even answer pms it is just too much in a day ,, i would hav eto spend a lot of time on all this,, i try but its too much for one fella to do ,,


the need for truth is strong in the cult of bodybuild ,, and i was the first one who came out with the truth,, THE REAL LEGIT TRUTH,, wether some like it or not it is the truth friend,,

i took specific calculated risks in doing so and if i came down i made sure that another operation raw deal will happen but this time led by fda into the LEGAL SUPP INDUSTRY ,, so im as safe as it can be,,

as i said before only one female knwo who i am and she will go to her death bed with it she gave me her word when she invited me to getbig back many years ago,,

if you dont like my recomndations,, if you like the reality and the reality is this:

5'10 170lb 6% upper body 8% lower body,, local mr poondak 3rtd place or 4rth place ....if you like this ...then go ahead and continue in your natural endevour,, the reality of the mater is....you used hormones too,, like every bodybuiold,, even the fucked up naturals been to fat burners and halodrol turinabol lol ,, who do youi think you sell balonie to?

this is one thing i dont like about this cult,, the fellons and nasty nasty attitude from some in it,,

i revealed the truth for EVERYONE to see,, they faced it and saw it,, gh15 been through million tests and itys popularity only grew with the years,,

i am the subjects of million treads a day on many diff boardings that im tired of hearing about,, my name gh15 is in every gym around the world,, fellas actualy talk about gh15 like it is real person ,, they dont talk about me!! they talk about gh15 like he is their big brother or best friend,,

it became HUGE,, the following is huge,, and the tempting to make money of it was there but i canceled it for gh15 will go down in history as MOSES,, he brougth them to the promise land and left them to enter it by themselves

gh15 approved
GH15 postings last week were in perfect English. Now we have this broken shit  -  GIMMICK account made up of several people
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: DK II on September 26, 2011, 02:07:05 AM
You have been on here for years, you know this is a gimmick account. There is a responsibility to the youngsters who log on here thinking that GETBIG is the bible of bodybuilding.

It is, and it should be known.


I rather have the youngsters come to this site and read the bible and realize how fucked up this cult is instead of believing all the lies about "natural" pros and snake oil supplements.

You must be really stupid if you think that everyone who reads the bible will go and start high doses of Tren, HGH, Insulin and Test the next day, actually all the people here that follow gh15's advice are older than 30 or close to 30 or have already been in the game for a long time and have used their share of hormones.

No fucking high school kid can afford 15 i.u. of HGH and 1g Test plus Tren Ace plus all the Sushi and Pineapple Juice, but some will realize and understand that they can NEVER look like their favorite pro while drinking some sugary creatine-NO-crap supplement for 80$$ and the small small amount of people who will say fuck it, i want to turn pro will do the steroids anyways, gh15 or not.

You = fukcing stupid.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: gh15 on September 26, 2011, 02:07:45 AM
You have been on here for years, you know this is a gimmick account. There is a responsibility to the youngsters who log on here thinking that GETBIG is the bible of bodybuilding.

getbig is the bible of bodybuild,,this is where the bible was writen and this is where it will forever be,, i chose it due to its owner,, i decided ron avidan who is jew and a good fella that like bodybuild should have this bible in his boarding,, it was a big place before i arrived,, getbig waas always huge center of attention for bodybuild,, the bible was another aspect of it ,, getbig stook the test of time,,it was ther ebefore muscular develp or musclmayhem or anysteroid boardings,, and it iwl be there logn time after ,,

i needed a place that if i told the truth will be able to hold it in its history archives,, i also needed a fella that i respected ,, yaron avidan was the chosen one

gh15 approved
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Trev on September 26, 2011, 02:08:04 AM
how do you think kuklo ths kid became 260lb? his little pet bird prayed a lot in her cage to make her owner 260? ,, he drank insulina and hgh ,, this is what you fellas dont get ,, thre tropipon fella fed him that early on ,, then he failed he was another version of failed bodybuiodl tropipon and only then when failedddd and i interfered with specific advices ...he advanced,, he also went out of that nasty group ,, and advanced,, but insulina introduction was right there,, with hgh ,,

this is THE ONLY 2 THING THAT WILL BLOW YOU UP HGH AND INSULINA ,, YOU CAN EAT TRENBOLONA FROM NOW UNTIL DOOM DAY  WONT DO NOTHING TO GET PRO SIZE UNLESS HGH AND INSULINA COME IN AND IN HIGHER DOSES

gh15 approved
That's the point, nobody should want to be a bloated 260 pounds. One of the GH15 writers agrees that aesthetics should be king. You are obviously not that one.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: gh15 on September 26, 2011, 02:11:05 AM
GH15 postings last week were in perfect English. Now we have this broken shit  -  GIMMICK account made up of several people

im bored right now,, let me play with him a little ,,

how about this english my friend? do you think i have a rough time writing perfect english? lets be serious here....the gh15 grammer is made to be horrible on purpose,, i said it over and over again and again in the past....

the idea behind gh15 is to shed the truth about BODYBUILDING,, it is made with the intention to help not to destroy,,the only ingredient you need when you try to help someone is

THE DAMN FUCKIN TRUTH!

how's this english for you my friend?

gh15 approved
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: DK II on September 26, 2011, 02:12:32 AM
im bored right now,, let me play with him a little ,,

how about this english my friend? do you think i have a rough time writing perfect english? lets be serious here....the gh15 grammer is made to be horrible on purpose,, i said it over and over again and again in the past....

the idea behind gh15 is to shed the truth about BODYBUILDING,, it is made with the intension to help not to destroy,,the only ingredient you need when you try to help someone is

THE DAMN FUCKIN TRUTH!

how's this english for you my friend?

gh15 approved

nice.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: gh15 on September 26, 2011, 02:12:55 AM
i had to correct intention,, i fucked it up lol
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Trev on September 26, 2011, 02:13:21 AM
It is, and it should be known.


I rather have the youngsters come to this site and read the bible and realize how fucked up this cult is instead of believing all the lies about "natural" pros and snake oil supplements.

You must be really stupid if you think that everyone who reads the bible will go and start high doses of Tren, HGH, Insulin and Test the next day, actually all the people here that follow gh15's advice are older than 30 or close to 30 or have already been in the game for a long time and have used their share of hormones.

No fucking high school kid can afford 15 i.u. of HGH and 1g Test plus Tren Ace plus all the Sushi and Pineapple Juice, but some will realize and understand that they can NEVER look like their favorite pro while drinking some sugary creatine-NO-crap supplement for 80$$ and the small small amount of people who will say fuck it, i want to turn pro will do the steroids anyways, gh15 or not.

You = fukcing stupid.
I do see your point. I agree with 90% of your posts.
The facts of 21st bodybuilding are that its completely drug ridden and fucked up, BUT even if one kid goes out and obtains some of these hormones or drugs because he had read that you can't build any muscle without them (which is complete bullshit) and kills himself then that has to be wrong.

The facts should be that you will only get to pro level by using X / Y ? Z etc  -  BUT, you must go and see your doctor and take these drugs under supervision. The levels GH15 posts and the advice does not take in to account the individual. Some 160 19 year old will kill himself taking the levels GH15 has advised for a 210 guy.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Lord Chronos on September 26, 2011, 02:14:28 AM
 :D
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Trev on September 26, 2011, 02:19:10 AM
im bored right now,, let me play with him a little ,,

how about this english my friend? do you think i have a rough time writing perfect english? lets be serious here....the gh15 grammer is made to be horrible on purpose,, i said it over and over again and again in the past....

the idea behind gh15 is to shed the truth about BODYBUILDING,, it is made with the intention to help not to destroy,,the only ingredient you need when you try to help someone is

THE DAMN FUCKIN TRUTH!

how's this english for you my friend?

gh15 approved
Why sometime post in perfect English then?
The drugs are the truth of modern bodybuilding I agree but you should not encourage un-educated youngsters to take them.
You have to allow for the least intelligent when posting "advice"
muscles are not worth dying for, end of.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Trev on September 26, 2011, 02:21:30 AM
Trev, your pissing against the wind, while your points are totally valid, trying to reason with the deranged morons that form the getbig collective is pointless.
Thanks. Agreed, been here before and no joy. Just frustrating that Ron lets this shit get posted for ALL to see.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: DK II on September 26, 2011, 02:21:44 AM
Why sometime post in perfect English then?
The drugs are the truth of modern bodybuilding I agree but you should not encourage un-educated youngsters to take them.
You have to allow for the least intelligent when posting "advice"
muscles are not worth dying for, end of.

1st, everyone's free to do with their lives what they want.

2nd, i don't see teenagers dropping dead left and right from steroids, teenagers are stupid, some will kill themselves anyhow, be it car races, drugs, violence, planking or steroids.


Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: gh15 on September 26, 2011, 02:22:59 AM
I do see your point. I agree with 90% of your posts.
The facts of 21st bodybuilding are that its completely drug ridden and fucked up, BUT even if one kid goes out and obtains some of these hormones or drugs because he had read that you can't build any muscle without them (which is complete bullshit) and kills himself then that has to be wrong.

The facts should be that you will only get to pro level by using X / Y ? Z etc  -  BUT, you must go and see your doctor and take these drugs under supervision. The levels GH15 posts and the advice does not take in to account the individual. Some 160 19 year old will kill himself taking the levels GH15 has advised for a 210 guy.

where idd you read i said you cant buuild muscle naturaly??

i keep repeating myselof like a damn parot pa fuckin rot!!  i said million times you can build good good body 170lb 6% ...5'10 whats wrong with that,, you can step on stage 168.5lb ripped to shreds at 6% and win local show as in place 4rth place or something maybe 3 or even 2... but!! look at the numbers!!

1 7 0 6% 5'10!!!!!!!! this is the numbers of naturals,, while my pupil stavip will go on stage first competition hormonized 187.5lb...6% and wipe floor with that 168.5 lb natural... you understand what i mena?

this is the all thing ,, you can build muscle naturaly but you cant build nothing impressive naturaly ,, you can have impressive condition that may loo impressive in pictures when you are alone,, but in reality even they are on something,, i just call them natural ,, generaly speasking 170 lb dry 6% will lose each and every time to same height bodybuild on hormones that is 190lb 6% wet! every single time he will lose to him because it is toooooo muchhhh fuickin thickness and size diff,, if its 10lb maybe....but when 2 fellas 170 and 190...its nto even same class,, it is just balonie to even talk about natural bodybuold,,

you will compete MIDDLE WEIGHT AT 5'10 168LB....THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT? YES ITS GOOD IF YOU JUST STARTED OR IF YOU DONT WANT TO GET HIGH FAST OR AFRIAD OR GOD KNOEWS WHAT BUT ITS STILL ....ITS 168LB!! AND ITS 5'10  

my advices aim at advance bodybuild i always mention it! ,, and! my advices are usually not for 160lb fella,,maybe 160 lb that are walking around 5%...or 160lb that are 5'6 ....but my advices are for advance bodybuild

gh15 approved
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Secret Stack on September 26, 2011, 02:24:42 AM
LOL! stupid fucks...
my english is perfect forest,, the english thingy is done on purpose


see liek thsi ,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Trev on September 26, 2011, 02:30:39 AM
where idd you read i said you cant buuild muscle naturaly??

i keep repeating myselof like a damn parot pa fuckin rot!!  i said million times you can build good good body 170lb 6% ...5'10 whats wrong with that,, you can step on stage 168.5lb ripped to shreds at 6% and win local show as in place 4rth place or something maybe 3 or even 2... but!! look at the numbers!!

1 7 0 6% 5'10!!!!!!!! this is the numbers of naturals,, while my pupil stavip will go on stage first competition hormonized 187.5lb...6% and wipe floor with that 168.5 lb natural... you understand what i mena?

this is the all thing ,, you can build muscle naturaly but you cant build nothing impressive naturaly ,, you can have impressive condition that may loo impressive in pictures when you are alone,, but in reality even they are on something,, i just call them natural ,, generaly speasking 170 lb dry 6% will lose each and every time to same height bodybuild on hormones that is 190lb 6% wet! every single time he will lose to him because it is toooooo muchhhh fuickin thickness and size diff,, if its 10lb maybe....but when 2 fellas 170 and 190...its nto even same class,, it is just balonie to even talk about natural bodybuold,,

you will compete MIDDLE WEIGHT AT 5'10 168LB....THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT? YES ITS GOOD IF YOU JUST STARTED OR IF YOU DONT WANT TO GET HIGH FAST OR AFRIAD OR GOD KNOEWS WHAT BUT ITS STILL ....ITS 168LB!! AND ITS 5'10  

my advices aim at advance bodybuild i always mention it! ,, and! my advices are usually not for 160lb fella,,maybe 160 lb that are walking around 5%...or 160lb that are 5'6 ....but my advices are for advance bodybuild

gh15 approved
You should start EVERY post with those facts about natural bodybuilding and that your advice is ONLY for guys who have built a good foundation of at least 2-3 years dedicated bodybuilding. Then advise what they would have to take to win at national level and possibly go pro. THEN state that they MUST take under doctors supervision which is what all the top guys do.

Maybe you should not deliberately post in broken English, then your messages would be more clear
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Lord Chronos on September 26, 2011, 02:30:51 AM
 :D
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: DK II on September 26, 2011, 02:35:55 AM
Point 1. Agreed.

Point 2. Epic lack of knowledge.

Then educate us, please.  ::)
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: gh15 on September 26, 2011, 02:39:04 AM
You should start EVERY post with those facts about natural bodybuilding and that your advice is ONLY for guys who have built a good foundation of at least 2-3 years dedicated bodybuilding. Then advise what they would have to take to win at national level and possibly go pro. THEN state that they MUST take under doctors supervision which is what all the top guys do.

Maybe you should not deliberately post in broken English, then your messages would be more clear

lol,, DO YOU REALLY THINK ANY OF US GO TO DOCTORES? you need to reread bible lol im serious here,, go read it in your time,, i mention all the time its for advance bodybuild and mentioned milion time natual limit,, the doc thing? lol are you out of your mind? we dont go to docs until its been long time health problem ,, or infections or abcess evebn that we dont go ,, no profesional go to doc to supervise his drug intake NO ONE,, lol

we go only when we need surgery or when other things such as prescribed diuretics or the once in a blue moon blood test to see whats up ,, but most of us are invinsible,, its the narcotics who ruin and destroy bodybuild and no doctor wil help them ,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: gh15 on September 26, 2011, 02:40:58 AM
Then educate us, please.  ::)

what he mean to say is that teens fall dead from the club exatsy and cocaiiiino and all the goodies and booz they do and then blame the little dianabol since that is the only thing their poor parents find in their closet,,

the youngesters die from NARCOTICS AND DRINKING AND PAIN KILLERS not from little hormones that are natural to the body lol

gh15 approved
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Lord Chronos on September 26, 2011, 02:41:49 AM
Then educate us, please.  ::)

Do I have to??

How could you expect a teenager to die of a problem that will take 10-20 years to manifest itself?
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Trev on September 26, 2011, 02:44:42 AM
lol,, DO YOU REALLY THINK ANY OF US GO TO DOCTORES? you need to reread bible lol im serious here,, go read it in your time,, i mention all the time its for advance bodybuild and mentioned milion time natual limit,, the doc thing? lol are you out of your mind? we dont go to docs until its been long time health problem ,, or infections or abcess evebn that we dont go ,, no profesional go to doc to supervise his drug intake NO ONE,, lol

we go only when we need surgery or when other things such as prescribed diuretics or the once in a blue moon blood test to see whats up ,, but most of us are invinsible,, its the narcotics who ruin and destroy bodybuild and no doctor wil help them ,,

gh15 approved
What is all this us and we. You are not an ex pro. Its well known.
I know a few pros (now ex pros) and have spoken to many over the last 25 years and they were all under doctors supervision.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: DK II on September 26, 2011, 02:45:05 AM
Do I have to??

How could you expect a teenager to die of a problem that will take 10-20 years to manifest itself?

LOL, you're fucking stupid.

Look at the US, look at all the fat kids, the alcohol abusers, the drug addicts, the car/bike racers, the gangs, the street fighting and so on...

And you think some kids on steroids is the problem??

What do you think all those kids who compete in the Olympic games are on?? Apple juice?? Steroids make the "heroes" of our age, the action movie stars, the sports stars, the models and what not else.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Trev on September 26, 2011, 02:45:24 AM
Do I have to??

How could you expect a teenager to die of a problem that will take 10-20 years to manifest itself?
Good Post.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Trev on September 26, 2011, 02:48:00 AM
LOL, you're fucking stupid.

Look at the US, look at all the fat kids, the alcohol abusers, the drug addicts, the car/bike racers, the gangs, the street fighting and so on...

And you think some kids on steroids is the problem??

What do you think all those kids who compete in the Olympic games are on?? Apple juice?? Steroids make the "heroes" of our age, the action movie stars, the sports stars, the models and what not else.
Bad Post
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: gh15 on September 26, 2011, 02:54:40 AM
What is all this us and we. You are not an ex pro. Its well known.
I know a few pros (now ex pros) and have spoken to many over the last 25 years and they were all under doctors supervision.

and this is EXACTLY where you are wrong,, on both fronts,, im not only pro but one of the top of all times! if this is not clue then we have problem ,, second we are not under doc superviser,, we may go to doc but not under supervise ,, you confuse it with masooosseess,,

you really out of your leage friend,, relax ,, read bible again ,, everything is in there,, you are lucky im eating now and have time to talk to you ,, see it as your lucky day

gh15 approved
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: WillGrant on September 26, 2011, 02:56:00 AM
It seems like Trev loves the cock
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: gh15 on September 26, 2011, 02:58:09 AM
Bad Post

no it is good posting,, like most of his postings ,, he got brains!,, something not many have around ...

remember that trenbolona i like talking about soooooo much? that trenbolona is used up to 200mg every single day! by not pro...by top amatuers!! that go into national competitions,, and im talking months of usage 5-6 months 200mg every day ...yes yes you got that right,,not even profesionals ,, usualy place 12th... lol the usage of everywhere not only with us pros but EVERYWHERE,,

the bad thing is that you get lied to ,, they tell you 75mg trenbolona evey 3rd day lol yes okkk ::)

gh15 approved
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Trev on September 26, 2011, 02:59:33 AM
and this is EXACTLY where you are wrong,, on both fronts,, im not only pro but one of the top of all times! if this is not clue then we have problem ,, second we are not under doc superviser,, we may go to doc but not under supervise ,, you confuse it with masooosseess,,

you really out of your leage friend,, relax ,, read bible again ,, everything is in there,, you are lucky im eating now and have time to talk to you ,, see it as your lucky day

gh15 approved
In your dreams.
As I say I have 25 years + of real bodybuilding experience and knowledge and have spent long enough talking to genuine top pros to know the real truth.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Trev on September 26, 2011, 03:01:20 AM
It seems like Trev loves the cock
Yawn! My wife of 18 years would disagree.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: gh15 on September 26, 2011, 03:06:32 AM
In your dreams.
As I say I have 25 years + of real bodybuilding experience and knowledge and have spent long enough talking to genuine top pros to know the real truth.

you TALKED ,, i WALKED,,


insted of being humble that i give you my time,, i have this  balonie 30s here that try to ahchive a conflict with god of hormones for them to become famous,, i dont get the way your mind works lol i do like stimulation i said it before,, but rest assure i have TOUCHED the top of the top ,, im not talkin about profesional card...i have rtouched THE TOP OF THE TOP OF IFBB BODYBUILDING

gh15 approved
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: gh15 on September 26, 2011, 03:08:11 AM
and let me use a frase getbig use that i always wanted to use lol ^^ no homo lol : )

gh15 approved
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: JasonH on September 26, 2011, 03:14:54 AM
due to popular demand,,
those are must hormone in blood for top amatuer and ofcourse profesional,, insulina and hgh are not a must for fitness model level phsyiqes eventhough today fitness model fellas are on hgh every few months then off,, in general those 5 hormones here are must inorder to get high in the ranks of npc competetive bodybuild aka national and then profeisional ,, local competition can do with out insulina and hgh ,, some do it completly natural but dont expect anything better than 3-5 placing in your class in the local if truly natural and that class will never be heavy or light heavy or super heavy kt will be light weight or middle weight as true natural ,,and thats if you have very good genetic and only! in local which is not national or profesional ofcourse

1. HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE,, with out it there is no pro conditioned size,, no matter how much you will jump and shout from morning to night,, no human growth hormone in blood with the window of 6 months writen in bible = no pro conditioned size and no pro card

2. TRENBOLONA ACE,, this is the most important most most most importanto anabolic steroids you can ever put into your blood,, it is more important than any other hormone even more important than hgh when it come to muscle condition,,
with out trenbolona ace THERE IS ABSOLITLY NO ADVANCE BODYBUILDER,,bodybuild with no trenbolona ace doesnt will always hear he look good...but never great,, will alwys hear yes you look good fella but but remember in the summer....remember when you were seperated and chest and deltd were huge and you were shred to pieces ,, that time you were better ,, i dont say you dont look good friend but its not what you were few month back ,, this! is what you hear when bodybuild is not on trenbolona ace!

trenbolona ace is the ONLY steroid that will let you eat anything,, you can eat icecream on this steroid and grow lean and ripped,, you can eat buns you can eat sushi ,, you can eat normal! and be shred! it is an aas with the capacity to get you in condition quite fast while at the same time growing you in the lean muscle departmnt ,, it grow you and burn fat same time,, you see it mainly to begin with by the vein poping out everywhere they go up from under the water and start poping all around if lean to begin with ,, thennn the seperation start occuring ,, it is daily changes not weekly ,, daily change on doses of 100-200 mg every day or 2 ,, you talk here about real fast changes,, and ofcourse after few months you are a walking competetive bodybuild ,, highly impressive when it come to condition withsmall waist depending on your hgh and insulina intake...with no insulina you will have 30 inch waist while you are 210lb ! when on trenbolona ace,, it is only! on trenbolona ace when the skin attach itself to the muscle in the attractive way you see in a magazine where the girl take a look and pondering why her man doesnt look even remotely close to it,, it is combo of THICKNESS AND! CONDITION which is considered shreded to ripped depending on the time you been on trenbolona ace,, the longer you are on it the more invinsible you come condition wize and the more lean size you pack on you ,, and! the more impressive you look even when weight on scale come to a stop because even then! bodyfat continue to go down ,, ALL WITH ZERO CARDIO!


3. insulina,, with out insulina you will never create a mutation on a larger fella,, a 5'8+ fella with no insulina in blood will never create mutatition ,, he will never be able to poses the 240lb+ on stage you see now day ,,insulina in today bodybuild and with deep pain i say this...is a mustyou just wont get to 240 you will be 210 with out insulina

4. testosterona,, it has to be there at some dose prefebly cycling depending on prep timing or not,, testosterona is a hormone to THICKEN an already lean physiqe,, it also keep stamina and keep your MOOD at the right place,, it can fuck up condition when abused especialy when prep and especialy! when not done according to your lean muscle ,, a 200lb 5'9 fella do not prep on 1 gram testosterona for show! the end,, again testosterona is important and need to be taken sometime in higher doses to grow but it is ONLY when you have high hgh in blood ,, testosterona intake shoudl be paralel line to hgh intake ,, if you cant aford hgh or dont have it ...the testosterona doses should go DOWN

5. equipona ,, as important as testosterona ,, but testosterona is rated higher because it has medical application and it is the main hormone in all human body,, equipona is second best anabolic for bodybuild,, it grow you from the inside out slowly,, it cupp your delt very nice and it add polish to your look that only a bodyhbuild can see and recognize,, it is again attractive skin look that is wraped around muscle almost like a vaccum,, for final vaccum trenbolona and then diuretic are introduced

gh15 approved



Good list.

Shame I don't have the dollar to afford any of this stuff.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Swlabr on September 26, 2011, 03:15:59 AM
Hey, asshats, if you don't like what gh15 has to say, just ignore him, ffs. For every homo bashing him, there are 10 of us reading every word and being enlightened.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Trev on September 26, 2011, 03:17:32 AM
you TALKED ,, i WALKED,,


insted of being humble that i give you my time,, i have this  balonie 30s here that try to ahchive a conflict with god of hormones for them to become famous,, i dont get the way your mind works lol i do like stimulation i said it before,, but rest assure i have TOUCHED the top of the top ,, im not talkin about profesional card...i have rtouched THE TOP OF THE TOP OF IFBB BODYBUILDING

gh15 approved
That's the point, you don't walk, you just talk behind your screen. I am sure we would all take note if you were a pro.
Arnold would say "Its not dat hart, to give him de wrong advises"
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Trev on September 26, 2011, 03:18:40 AM
Hey, asshats, if you don't like what gh15 has to say, just ignore him, ffs. For every homo bashing him, there are 10 of us reading every word and being enlightened.
And all are 155 pound teenagers
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Schmoe Buster on September 26, 2011, 03:19:11 AM
Hey, asshats, if you don't like what gh15 has to say, just ignore him, ffs. For every homo bashing him, there are 10 of us reading every word and being enlightened.

X2, these tits really have nothing else better to do
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Lord Chronos on September 26, 2011, 03:20:22 AM
This is the point I am commenting on as its innaccurate, worthless and also incorrect.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Swlabr on September 26, 2011, 03:20:44 AM
And all are 155 pound teenagers

Yeah, Okami, Groink, Spike, Stavios, b-boy and MANY others are twinks. ::)

Idiot, just stop typing already, you're embarrassing yourself.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Trev on September 26, 2011, 03:21:09 AM
X2, these tits really have nothing else better to do
says the man with nearly 4000 posts!  ::)
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: DK II on September 26, 2011, 03:23:49 AM
Spoken like a true cretin, I dont know you, you dont know, yet you claim I am stupid, when I have revealed no piece of information for you to make that assumption, you however, have made plenty that marks you out as someone with little knowledge of the subject matter.

Firstly I have never said kids on steroids are the problem, I dont care if they are or not.

Secondly I never made any comments relating to kids in the olympics or steroids or anything to do with that. I dont really know how you made the jump to that point.

You made a statement that "you dont see teenagers dropping dead from steroids", in which you are trying to imply that because you dont see this, therefore steroids cannot be that bad. This is the point I am commenting on as its innaccurate, worthless and also incorrect.

You sound angry, is there something?

says the man with nearly 4000 posts!  ::)

That doesn't work here, sweetheart.

Why don't you just fuck of to BB.com and post there?
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Lord Chronos on September 26, 2011, 03:24:33 AM
monohydrate
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Lord Chronos on September 26, 2011, 03:26:11 AM
You sound angry, is there something?


No I'm fine, thanks for asking.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: gh15 on September 26, 2011, 03:27:03 AM
And all are 155 pound teenagers

no no friend ,, they are not... they are very well into their 180s 190s 200s 210s 220s,, many profesionals ask for advice all the time,, tp amatuers,,

do you realize how much balonie you talk?

i told you relax go to bible and see who write what,, and who ask what,,

we have here top of the top amatuers from dogma which is top amatuer...the fact he is nice to you fellas dont mean he is not top ...fella will have profesional card ,, bboy which is alredy profesional in my opinion need to wait a little for oficial but he is walking pro ,, you have here the asian senation ,, hungarian steve ,, many other all asking advices ,, i have so many pms i told you i cant even go through them already because it takes so much time and some of them real long,, so i do as much as i can and i always promise i neevr forget to answer even if late i  will answer in some way or another wether it is posting or specific answer ,,

your problem is that you did not actualy read the bible completely and fully ,, if you would you would understand that my knowlegde isnot and can not be based on william book ,, or on internet balonie ,, the bodybuilders here recognized it fast,, it is based on HANDS ON real time working with many profesionals and amatuers and doign it on MYSELF!,, i speak from personal experience and i try to save you years of heart ache and of growing old with out achiving your game,,

you have here fellas especialy from countries around the world ,, so talented so gifted real gifted that are INNNNNOCENT,, and i try to help them understand how it is ,, some of them understand it pretty fast ,, some dont,, but everyone at the end get it...

ask ANY BODYBUILDER ONE ON ONE THAT KNOWS YOU AND DOESNT AFRIAD TO TALK ,, AKA FRIEND,,, THERE IS NO FRIENDS IN BODYBUILD BUT MAYBE A REAL REAL GOOD BUDDY,, ASK HIM AND YOU WILLSEE WHEN YOU SAY THE WORDS GH15 ...THERE IS SILENCE OF THE LAMBS...DO IT IN THE MIDDLE OF GYMNASIUM OR WHEN YOU GO PEE AND HE IS THERE...IT WILL BE EARY SILENCE,, IT WILL BE LIKE THE SILENCE OF ...FUCK THEAT FELLA KNOWS WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT HE IS ONE OF GH15 PUPILS...BETTER BE MORE HONEST WITH HIM...this is exactly the respond you will get,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Swlabr on September 26, 2011, 03:27:46 AM
If you claim to have been enlightened then you should feel pretty embarrassed yourself ;D

Why's that?
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: gh15 on September 26, 2011, 03:32:30 AM
Yeah, Okami, Groink, Spike, Stavios, b-boy and MANY others are twinks. ::)

Idiot, just stop typing already, you're embarrassing yourself.

funny thing is that all of them okami ,, groink,, spike,, forgt about bboy he is  pro... but the others are real good bodybuild,, they are,, epic alien too,, some others tooi just dont remember name,, they are good bodybuild and they are far from 150 anything they are all 200lb in superb condition and some of them are more ,, they are minimum 190lb and real developed,, and yet he seem to talk about this imaginary 150lb pounder that come to getbig to read gh15 after 2 week in gymnasium ,, the fellas who wok out for 2 weeks in gym havent even discovered getbig yet!! fellas on getbig are long time bodybuild or been doing the fitness thing for long enough time,, they all have few years on them minimum ,,

kevin or whatever his name is melvin gevin i forget his damn name fuck,, whats his name ill have to post it and look again ,, whatever his name is come here to the thunderdome! been member here for many years and say there are bunch of kids here!,, no there are not! we have BUNC OF REAL LEGIT BODYBUILDERS SOME PROS SOME TOP AMATUERS SOME LOWER LEVEL AMATUERS BUT ALL BODYBUILDERS SOME BEACH BODYS SOME TRAINING TO BE FITNES MODELS ,, MANY OF THEM ARE SERIOUS BODYBUILDERS,, YET HE COME HERE AND SAY KIDS IN THE THUNDERDOME,, MAYBE 5% ARE KIDOS..REST ARE SEIROUS BODYBUILD

DO YOU FUCKIN THING GROINK WOULD BE WIPED INTO SHAPE SO FAST IF HE JUST STARTED TO TRAIN? YOU TALKING HERE YEARS UPON YEARS IN THE IRON CULT,,  i dont get that fella brain

gh15 approved
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: gh15 on September 26, 2011, 03:34:08 AM
its trevis : ) sorry friend lol im nto god ith names
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Swlabr on September 26, 2011, 03:37:28 AM
What would you estimate my BF% here GH15 ?

(http://i52.tinypic.com/6jelnr.jpg)


Lol, look at this 155-lb weakling asking gh15 for help. ::)
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: gh15 on September 26, 2011, 03:39:28 AM
yes ,, good example,,this is highly experienced bodybuild,, its nto some no one that entered ghmnasium 1 month ago and said i want ot be bodybuild,, even they woudl get answer from me but it would be diff... but when i give advice i give it to fellas like this fella and to fellas smaller than him ,, i give advice to advanced bodybuild

gh15 approved
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Trev on September 26, 2011, 03:41:51 AM
funny thing is that all of them okami ,, groink,, spike,, forgt about bboy he is  pro... but the others are real good bodybuild,, they are,, epic alien too,, some others tooi just dont remember name,, they are good bodybuild and they are far from 150 anything they are all 200lb in superb condition and some of them are more ,, they are minimum 190lb and real developed,, and yet he seem to talk about this imaginary 150lb pounder that come to getbig to read gh15 after 2 week in gymnasium ,, the fellas who wok out for 2 weeks in gym havent even discovered getbig yet!! fellas on getbig are long time bodybuild or been doing the fitness thing for long enough time,, they all have few years on them minimum ,,

kevin or whatever his name is melvin gevin i forget his damn name fuck,, whats his name ill have to post it and look again ,, whatever his name is come here to the thunderdome! been member here for many years and say there are bunch of kids here!,, no there are not! we have BUNC OF REAL LEGIT BODYBUILDERS SOME PROS SOME TOP AMATUERS SOME LOWER LEVEL AMATUERS BUT ALL BODYBUILDERS SOME BEACH BODYS SOME TRAINING TO BE FITNES MODELS ,, MANY OF THEM ARE SERIOUS BODYBUILDERS,, YET HE COME HERE AND SAY KIDS IN THE THUNDERDOME,, MAYBE 5% ARE KIDOS..REST ARE SEIROUS BODYBUILD

DO YOU FUCKIN THING GROINK WOULD BE WIPED INTO SHAPE SO FAST IF HE JUST STARTED TO TRAIN? YOU TALKING HERE YEARS UPON YEARS IN THE IRON CULT,,  i dont get that fella brain

gh15 approved
There are exceptions. You should allow for the teens on here on take your word as fact and advise to all.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: DK II on September 26, 2011, 03:43:53 AM
Lol, look at this 155-lb weakling asking gh15 for help. ::)

Are you saying "Lord Cockos" might be gay?

Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Swlabr on September 26, 2011, 03:48:41 AM
There are exceptions. You should allow for the teens on here on take your word as fact and advise to all.

I'm 18 and I've read every single gh15 post. Does that mean I go out and inject 200 mg tren every day, with grams of testosterone and 10+ ius of growth hormone? No, of course not. I just know what it will take for me to get bigger, I know that I shouldn't waste my money on bullshit supplements and now I know how fucked up bodybuilding really is.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: DK II on September 26, 2011, 03:51:38 AM
I'm 18 and I've read every single gh15 post. Does that mean I go out and inject 200 mg tren every day, with grams of testosterone and 10+ ius of growth hormone? No, of course not. I just know what it will take for me to get bigger, I know that I shouldn't waste my money on bullshit supplements and now I know how fucked up bodybuilding really is.

NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

You're a dumb teenager, you need to inject everything today.  ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Trev on September 26, 2011, 03:56:29 AM
I'm 18 and I've read every single gh15 post. Does that mean I go out and inject 200 mg tren every day, with grams of testosterone and 10+ ius of growth hormone? No, of course not. I just know what it will take for me to get bigger, I know that I shouldn't waste my money on bullshit supplements and now I know how fucked up bodybuilding really is.
Great to hear. Not all 18 year olds are as intelligent as you are though.
Sadly in this world you have to allow for the morons and try to stop them harming themselves from poor advice.
DKII would say "fuckem" I'm sure but there should be a level of responsibilty there.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: DK II on September 26, 2011, 04:00:12 AM
Great to hear. Not all 18 year olds are as intelligent as you are though.
Sadly in this world you have to allow for the morons and try to stop them harming themselves from poor advice.
DKII would say "fuckem" I'm sure but there should be a level of responsibilty there.

People will never stop harming themselves, stupid people more than intelligent people.

If you had read the bible, you would know that there are enough warnings in gh15's posts.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Trev on September 26, 2011, 04:04:06 AM
People will never stop harming themselves, stupid people more than intelligent people.

If you had read the bible, you would know that there are enough warnings in gh15's posts.
Fair dooze mate
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Lord Chronos on September 26, 2011, 04:21:33 AM
creatine
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: DK II on September 26, 2011, 04:31:01 AM
Quite a pathetic response, but nothing more than I would expect, as your simply not capable of defending or arguing in favour your own stupid statements.

Calm down, gloria.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Lord Chronos on September 26, 2011, 04:45:57 AM
Calm down, gloria.

Thanks for confirming my statement ;D
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: madg on September 26, 2011, 06:38:24 AM
let the god speak ...i no post often most cause english iz bad but i read here and start do bible and boom
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Khofo on September 26, 2011, 06:47:17 AM
hi mr gh15féLLa
i know many POOR bodybuilDs FéLLAS (No Homo) who use insuline & tést énanthaTo/ or Sustanon + équipoise(BoldéNONa) + trén AcétatO withouT hgH  because hgH is very expensive in ouR countrY  5-7$ / iu LégiT hgH froM norwaY
FéLLas withouT hgH,   insuline only with AAS:--->



AnD thiS féLLa:

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg218/kammre/81020-mnejmi2Cp1.jpg)(http://i14.servimg.com/u/f14/11/01/52/53/img_0211.jpg)
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Khofo on September 26, 2011, 07:00:41 AM
In your dreams.
As I say I have 25 years + of real bodybuilding experience and knowledge and have spent long enough talking to genuine top pros to know the real truth.

FUCK THE SHUT UP
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: polychronopolous on September 26, 2011, 07:05:35 AM
It seems like Trev loves the cock

Yeah he's a gay guy.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: BiGHer on September 26, 2011, 07:25:29 AM
LOL @ FreakyCalves20... Derek Anthony still posting here.  Does anyone actually listen to this washed up local competitors show? He sent a PM sucking off gh15 and then gets mad because gh15 doesn't want to go on his show and speak to the 50 idiots who listen to it lol. 


Trev, understand something... gh15 just speaks the truth.  He always makes it clear to read the bible and understand that what he is talking about is for top amateur-professional status.  If some ignorant teen goes and takes all this stuff, that is their choice.  Remember, they won't die from the hormone use.  No one ever has!  I will now pose to you the same challenge I have posed to all the gh15 critics on here several times (check my posts):  Go implement gh15's protocols for minimum 3 months.  6 months would be best, but try just for 3.  If you haven't made drastic improvements in your physique, please come back here and criticize.  The truth is, everyone who has implemented what he says has greatly made improvements, myself included! 

Remember, as I have said before, gh15 needs to be thanked!  It doesn't matter who is behind the keyboard because the information is TRUE and extremely valuable for those wanting to get as far as they can in bodybuilding, and not waste time or money getting there.  This thread was started with a very valuable post and it should have been left at that.  Which BTW, is gh15 again making things easy for people, because everything in the OP is in the bible.  Here he just took the time to spell it out and make it simple in 1 post.  MD isn't writing about this stuff.  Flex and Muscle Mag aren't writing it.  Dorian Yates is telling kids they can be a Mr. O if they use 8 iu GH and 750 mg of test!  Many peoples favorite Mr. O is out there telling millions of people lies, but you don't comment about that!  you get mad at gh15 when he speaks the truth.  It's disgusting and you should be happy you are getting the benefit of being able to read the info that is provided here.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Trev on September 26, 2011, 07:31:06 AM
Yeah he's a gay guy.
Typical childish response.
lets see if you can ever win a wife and have a couple of kids like me.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Trev on September 26, 2011, 07:34:35 AM
LOL @ FreakyCalves20... Derek Anthony still posting here.  Does anyone actually listen to this washed up local competitors show? He sent a PM sucking off gh15 and then gets mad because gh15 doesn't want to go on his show and speak to the 50 idiots who listen to it lol. 


Trev, understand something... gh15 just speaks the truth.  He always makes it clear to read the bible and understand that what he is talking about is for top amateur-professional status.  If some ignorant teen goes and takes all this stuff, that is their choice.  Remember, they won't die from the hormone use.  No one ever has!  I will now pose to you the same challenge I have posed to all the gh15 critics on here several times (check my posts):  Go implement gh15's protocols for minimum 3 months.  6 months would be best, but try just for 3.  If you haven't made drastic improvements in your physique, please come back here and criticize.  The truth is, everyone who has implemented what he says has greatly made improvements, myself included! 

Remember, as I have said before, gh15 needs to be thanked!  It doesn't matter who is behind the keyboard because the information is TRUE and extremely valuable for those wanting to get as far as they can in bodybuilding, and not waste time or money getting there.  This thread was started with a very valuable post and it should have been left at that.  Which BTW, is gh15 again making things easy for people, because everything in the OP is in the bible.  Here he just took the time to spell it out and make it simple in 1 post.  MD isn't writing about this stuff.  Flex and Muscle Mag aren't writing it.  Dorian Yates is telling kids they can be a Mr. O if they use 8 iu GH and 750 mg of test!  Many peoples favorite Mr. O is out there telling millions of people lies, but you don't comment about that!  you get mad at gh15 when he speaks the truth.  It's disgusting and you should be happy you are getting the benefit of being able to read the info that is provided here.
Ok buddy. I am old school and find it all so sad that this is what has become of bodybuilding. The drug culture of the "sport" is here to stay I guess and we'll keep seeing RIP's on here of guys too young to die for muscles.
I realise its a lost cause but GH15 should not post a lot of what he does without some set comments on every post that he is ONLY talking to experienced bodybuilders with several years of foundation drug free training.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Wolfsanglerune on September 26, 2011, 07:40:42 AM
Trev,
your like others on here that get all bent out of shape about the nearly kayfabe bit that BB industry put up.water will seek its own level.science means progress in things despite how much we dislike it.thats just reality my friend...
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: polychronopolous on September 26, 2011, 07:40:58 AM
Typical childish response.
lets see if you can ever win a wife and have a couple of kids like me.

You came here and ran your mouth about something you  knows nothing about which basically makes you an asshole.

If at some point you actually go back and read gh15 posts and get a good comprehension of what he is trying to communicate you will look backand realize how ignorant you appeared today.

Untiil then you are just an asshole.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: BiGHer on September 26, 2011, 07:44:42 AM
Ok buddy. I am old school and find it all so sad that this is what has become of bodybuilding. The drug culture of the "sport" is here to stay I guess and we'll keep seeing RIP's on here of guys too young to die for muscles.
I realise its a lost cause but GH15 should not post a lot of what he does without some set comments on every post that he is ONLY talking to experienced bodybuilders with several years of foundation drug free training.

I appreciate your conservative request for a "Parental Advisory" warning on all gh15's posts like he's a rap album, but again, no one has EVER died from hormone use.  Ask your doctor that.  If teens start dying from hormone use, it is because they were drinking or taking pain killers or a multitude of other things.  Even Art Atwood at 37 dying.  Do you really think that was from too much Test and GH???  Even insulin didn't kill him which is the only drug gh15 lists that presents any real danger.  Hell Tylenol is more toxic to your body than a shot of Test.  You just said you have a wife and kids no?  Be a good father and educate your children on the options that life will present to them.  Educate them on the consequences and benefits.  Then let them make their own decisions.  If something happens to your kids and you have done a tremendous job being a father, is it your fault?  No! At some point, the teen needs to be responsible.

I'm sorry, but at 15 I knew the risks of drugs, the risks of alcohol, the risks of unprotected sex, etc... I still made my own decisions.  This is 2011 man, not 1950... Every kid in kindergarden knows to not smoke cigarettes, but the tobacco industry is still booming isn't it???  You think teenagers know how to acquire steroids, needles, and apply them properly to their body, but don't know the consequences???  How ignorant do you think kids are??  They make their own choices.  My girlfriends 3 year old niece knows how to work an iPhone!  It's a different generation man... teens know the risks... they just choose to take their chances on those risks.  However, it is certainly not gh15's fault that they made those decisions!
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Colemans#1 on September 26, 2011, 07:52:41 AM
Great to hear. Not all 18 year olds are as intelligent as you are though.
Sadly in this world you have to allow for the morons and try to stop them harming themselves from poor advice.
DKII would say "fuckem" I'm sure but there should be a level of responsibilty there.

IF some kid is stupid enough AND some how has the financial means AND somehow has the connections to go out and buy a bunch of tren, test, eq, gh and slin he is a fucking idiot and he would be certainly be fucking himself over in a big way anyway were he not involved in bodybuilding

people today need more accountability in their lives and they need to suffer the consequences when they fuck up so they learn

the information should be there for those it is relevant to and for those who want to know.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on September 26, 2011, 07:56:44 AM
due to popular demand,,
those are must hormone in blood for top amatuer and ofcourse profesional,, insulina and hgh are not a must for fitness model level phsyiqes eventhough today fitness model fellas are on hgh every few months then off,, in general those 5 hormones here are must inorder to get high in the ranks of npc competetive bodybuild aka national and then profeisional ,, local competition can do with out insulina and hgh ,, some do it completly natural but dont expect anything better than 3-5 placing in your class in the local if truly natural and that class will never be heavy or light heavy or super heavy kt will be light weight or middle weight as true natural ,,and thats if you have very good genetic and only! in local which is not national or profesional ofcourse

1. HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE,, with out it there is no pro conditioned size,, no matter how much you will jump and shout from morning to night,, no human growth hormone in blood with the window of 6 months writen in bible = no pro conditioned size and no pro card

2. TRENBOLONA ACE,, this is the most important most most most importanto anabolic steroids you can ever put into your blood,, it is more important than any other hormone even more important than hgh when it come to muscle condition,,
with out trenbolona ace THERE IS ABSOLITLY NO ADVANCE BODYBUILDER,,bodybuild with no trenbolona ace doesnt will always hear he look good...but never great,, will alwys hear yes you look good fella but but remember in the summer....remember when you were seperated and chest and deltd were huge and you were shred to pieces ,, that time you were better ,, i dont say you dont look good friend but its not what you were few month back ,, this! is what you hear when bodybuild is not on trenbolona ace!

trenbolona ace is the ONLY steroid that will let you eat anything,, you can eat icecream on this steroid and grow lean and ripped,, you can eat buns you can eat sushi ,, you can eat normal! and be shred! it is an aas with the capacity to get you in condition quite fast while at the same time growing you in the lean muscle departmnt ,, it grow you and burn fat same time,, you see it mainly to begin with by the vein poping out everywhere they go up from under the water and start poping all around if lean to begin with ,, thennn the seperation start occuring ,, it is daily changes not weekly ,, daily change on doses of 100-200 mg every day or 2 ,, you talk here about real fast changes,, and ofcourse after few months you are a walking competetive bodybuild ,, highly impressive when it come to condition withsmall waist depending on your hgh and insulina intake...with no insulina you will have 30 inch waist while you are 210lb ! when on trenbolona ace,, it is only! on trenbolona ace when the skin attach itself to the muscle in the attractive way you see in a magazine where the girl take a look and pondering why her man doesnt look even remotely close to it,, it is combo of THICKNESS AND! CONDITION which is considered shreded to ripped depending on the time you been on trenbolona ace,, the longer you are on it the more invinsible you come condition wize and the more lean size you pack on you ,, and! the more impressive you look even when weight on scale come to a stop because even then! bodyfat continue to go down ,, ALL WITH ZERO CARDIO!


3. insulina,, with out insulina you will never create a mutation on a larger fella,, a 5'8+ fella with no insulina in blood will never create mutatition ,, he will never be able to poses the 240lb+ on stage you see now day ,,insulina in today bodybuild and with deep pain i say this...is a mustyou just wont get to 240 you will be 210 with out insulina

4. testosterona,, it has to be there at some dose prefebly cycling depending on prep timing or not,, testosterona is a hormone to THICKEN an already lean physiqe,, it also keep stamina and keep your MOOD at the right place,, it can fuck up condition when abused especialy when prep and especialy! when not done according to your lean muscle ,, a 200lb 5'9 fella do not prep on 1 gram testosterona for show! the end,, again testosterona is important and need to be taken sometime in higher doses to grow but it is ONLY when you have high hgh in blood ,, testosterona intake shoudl be paralel line to hgh intake ,, if you cant aford hgh or dont have it ...the testosterona doses should go DOWN

5. equipona ,, as important as testosterona ,, but testosterona is rated higher because it has medical application and it is the main hormone in all human body,, equipona is second best anabolic for bodybuild,, it grow you from the inside out slowly,, it cupp your delt very nice and it add polish to your look that only a bodyhbuild can see and recognize,, it is again attractive skin look that is wraped around muscle almost like a vaccum,, for final vaccum trenbolona and then diuretic are introduced

gh15 approved



Good list in getting big, but what about getting show ready?  Oils, Diuretics and such.  Can you give us a run down on how a pro preps a couple weeks out until the day of the show?  Example was it a good idea for Jay to still be injecting SEO the day of?
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: dogma5914 on September 26, 2011, 07:56:45 AM
The amount of complaining I hear from some people here just blows my mind. I don't understand whats so hard to understand because right now there is a guy who was a division 1 basketball player who is now Mr. Olympia. If that doesn't show you how important the right compounds are and the response to them is then I don't really know what is.

Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Meso_z on September 26, 2011, 07:57:12 AM
let the god speak ...i no post often most cause english iz bad but i read here and start do bible and boom
Is that you?
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: BiGHer on September 26, 2011, 07:59:02 AM
IF some kid is stupid enough AND some how has the financial means AND somehow has the connections to go out and buy a bunch of tren, test, eq, gh and slin he is a fucking idiot and he would be certainly be fucking himself over in a big way anyway were he not involved in bodybuilding

people today need more accountability in their lives and they need to suffer the consequences when they fuck up so they learn

the information should be there for those it is relevant to and for those who want to know.

Great point.  My father told me "You can do whatever you want, but you deal with the consequences either way.  That way, when you are successful, it's on you, but if you fuck up, well, that's on you too."
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Meso_z on September 26, 2011, 07:59:18 AM
Lol, look at this 155-lb weakling asking gh15 for help. ::)
Holy crap, impressive to the maxxxxxx.  :o
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: BiGHer on September 26, 2011, 08:00:09 AM
The amount of complaining I hear from some people here just blows my mind. I don't understand whats so hard to understand because right now there is a guy who was a division 1 basketball player who is now Mr. Olympia. If that doesn't show you how important the right compounds are and the response to them is then I don't really know what is.



Excellent point!  People really need to wake up...
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: CalvinH on September 26, 2011, 08:00:36 AM
This is all you need  8)



Looks like you're running low on test.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Jaime on September 26, 2011, 08:15:59 AM
And all are 155 pound teenagers


Have you been to a gym in the last 20 years? you have teenagers and grannys on gear from the get go lol. Bodybuilding is a drug game at every level, and gh15 gives advice so you dont get guys getting demoralised and wasting their time training for years in an uneven playing field.

I strongly believe in natural training for your first three years at least and i believe you can achieve a lot naturally, i have argued with gh15 about natty training a good few times in the past. Also natty training is hugely dependant on genetics, needs a very high level diet and takes a lot of patience and hard work regardless. Natty training with bad genetics equates to a waste of fucking time.

His advice is gold in regards to drugs though so just leave it out, nobody cares about your naive worldview.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: madg on September 26, 2011, 08:23:20 AM
Is that you?

yes is me ....my name george im greek bodybuild i try learn english more good to read all bible :D
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Bobby on September 26, 2011, 08:31:22 AM
you TALKED ,, i WALKED,,


insted of being humble that i give you my time,, i have this  balonie 30s here that try to ahchive a conflict with god of hormones for them to become famous,, i dont get the way your mind works lol i do like stimulation i said it before,, but rest assure i have TOUCHED the top of the top ,, im not talkin about profesional card...i have rtouched THE TOP OF THE TOP OF IFBB BODYBUILDING

gh15 approved

gh15 what hormonas should fella use for 70's look? 5'9" HARD bodybuild at 180lbs towards 200...
Possible to avoid testosterona?
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: The Wizard on September 26, 2011, 08:32:59 AM
gh15 what hormonas should fella use for 70's look? 5'9" HARD bodybuild at 180lbs towards 200...
Possible to avoid testosterona?
haha. I hope this is a joke?
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Meso_z on September 26, 2011, 08:35:36 AM
yes is me ....my name george im greek bodybuild i try learn english more good to read all bible :D
height and weight in the pic? is it recent? looking good.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on September 26, 2011, 08:49:05 AM
Thanks. Agreed, been here before and no joy. Just frustrating that Ron lets this shit get posted for ALL to see.

If someone did EXACTLY what gh15 said and ended up dying, that is their own fault, not gh15's. Gh15 is just informing people how to turn pro if their genetic response to the drugs is good enough. It is up to each individual person to decide whether they want to take the extreme risks associated with his protocols. I see nothing wrong with that. People are entitled to their own decisions.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Stavios on September 26, 2011, 08:49:09 AM
Lol at DK in this thread  ;D
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: madg on September 26, 2011, 08:50:54 AM
height and weight in the pic? is it recent? looking good.

ty man but i dont think i looks good..i had surgery in arm i have broken it so doctor put metal thing  to bone and 11 metal pins so i not train 5 month and i shrinka nd arm atrophy a bit now i try get back i am 103kg and 1.78
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: DK II on September 26, 2011, 08:53:49 AM
Lol at DK in this thread  ;D


Just enjoying myself a bit with the tiny tits.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: The Wizard on September 26, 2011, 09:12:47 AM
Trev,
your like others on here that get all bent out of shape about the nearly kayfabe bit that BB industry put up.water will seek its own level.science means progress in things despite how much we dislike it.thats just reality my friend...
I agree with this too. You've got to decide whether its worth the risk for a chance at a taste of bodybuilding fame or not.
I personally prefer to just live the bodybuilding lifestyle and be in shape forever, happy at 15 stone  ;D
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: The Wizard on September 26, 2011, 09:14:55 AM
If someone did EXACTLY what gh15 said and ended up dying, that is their own fault, not gh15's. Gh15 is just informing people how to turn pro if their genetic response to the drugs is good enough. It is up to each individual person to decide whether they want to take the extreme risks associated with his protocols. I see nothing wrong with that. People are entitled to their own decisions.
Yeh. In the words of Ivan Drago "IF HE DIES, HE DIES"
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Palpatine Q on September 26, 2011, 10:20:57 AM


Looks like you're running low on test.

3 shots left...one a week, so I got time  ;D

actually might take a ride to his store today, now that you got me thinking about it
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: hangclean on September 26, 2011, 10:22:46 AM
3 shots left...one a week, so I got time  ;D

actually might take a ride to his store today, now that you got me thinking about it
Is that biogen shit really working for you?  the price is almost too good to be true.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Schmoe Buster on September 26, 2011, 10:31:06 AM
ty man but i dont think i looks good..i had surgery in arm i have broken it so doctor put metal thing  to bone and 11 metal pins so i not train 5 month and i shrinka nd arm atrophy a bit now i try get back i am 103kg and 1.78

George you look good, keep training and study the gh15 bible ;)
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: no one on September 26, 2011, 11:21:06 AM

aw yeah.

Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on September 26, 2011, 11:58:51 AM
I have heard nothing but awful things about biogen. everyone says they got scammed
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Hulkotron on September 26, 2011, 12:01:41 PM
who the fuck are you to tell god of hormones what to write?

x2 stfu "Trev"
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Palpatine Q on September 26, 2011, 01:21:53 PM
I have heard nothing but awful things about biogen. everyone says they got scammed

Well I went from 14% bf to 8% bf in 5 weeks without losing an ounce of muscle or strength ... on their "garbage" tren/test mix .

I have posted plenty of pics....there will always be guys who get shit results and say the stuff was garbage...its their response to gear that is garbage
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Stavios on September 26, 2011, 01:27:14 PM
Well I went from 14% bf to 8% bf in 5 weeks without losing an ounce of muscle or strength ... on their "garbage" tren/test mix .

I have posted plenty of pics....there will always be guys who get shit results and say the stuff was garbage...its their response to gear that is garbage

it's always like this

I walk around at 240 using the same brand that other dude at the gym use and they all say it's shitty.

I reply: "the only thing that is shitty is your genetics  8)"
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: BiGHer on September 26, 2011, 01:30:45 PM
Always one way to find out if its the gear or you: UP THE DOSE!!!
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: claymore on September 26, 2011, 01:37:45 PM
Insulin in large doses, 120iu+ daily, blew me up but blew my waist up so I will not use it other than pre-training 15iu every again.

Good advice !!
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: claymore on September 26, 2011, 01:42:50 PM
GH15 what do you think of nandrolone if already lean to begin with ?

Nandrolone is great, but so is NPP...it really depends on your goals. Offseason and not trying to get super lean i'd stick with decanoate, if your going for that super lean look and your diet is spot on i'd go with NPP. (JMO)
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: cephissus on September 26, 2011, 01:50:53 PM
it's always like this

I walk around at 240 using the same brand that other dude at the gym use and they all say it's shitty.

I reply: "the only thing that is shitty is your genetics  8)"

very interesting post!  i've never heard this before...
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: cephissus on September 26, 2011, 01:56:10 PM
also if "trev" is still reading this...

i suspect the guy got burned somehow.  probably had some drug related problems in his younger days and now wants to warn others.  anyway it's not like people don't think steroids are dangerous.  jeez man, the average person thinks they are absolutely deadly.  if anything, gh15 helps balance out the popular hysteria regarding these drugs.

i've never seen anyone die from steroids.  i have, however, seen countless people talk as if shooting a bit of test like it's the new infanticide... which do I have a bigger problem with?  the latter.  that's my perspective.  like i said earlier, if trev actually has a problem with the former, it's probably because he had a bad experience.  well, that's his perspective.  but don't act like there are kids dropping dead left and right when, in reality, most people have FAR TOO MUCH fear of steroids.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: goomba420 on September 26, 2011, 02:52:32 PM
Lol, look at this 155-lb weakling asking gh15 for help. ::)

5'1 155lb

 8)
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: makaveli25 on September 26, 2011, 03:07:54 PM
Is that biogen shit really working for you?  the price is almost too good to be true.


He's a selective scammer. Sounds like Groink got good stuff if he got those results. I bought some prop and primo awhile back. It was kind of painful they must cut some corners when they brew it.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: deceiver on September 26, 2011, 03:19:45 PM
Yet another socialist who thinks drugs and bad and anyone who speaks about them should be censored. Trevis, travis, whoever the fuck you are, you stand for everything what's wrong with modern world. Drugs are bad only in wrong hands and if someone is foolish enough to fail to gather proper information regarding their use it's HIS fault.

And when it comes to kids it's parents' responsibility, not Ron Avidan's, not goverment's to take care of them.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: James28 on September 26, 2011, 03:45:52 PM
You American dudes are so lucky being able to get gear so easily. I'm looking for Tren here in London and nobody I ask seems to have it or can't get it. Might stock up next time I'm over there.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on September 26, 2011, 03:51:06 PM
You're trolling. England is the easiest place in the world to get gear
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: goomba420 on September 26, 2011, 03:52:02 PM
You American dudes are so lucky being able to get gear so easily. I'm looking for Tren here in London and nobody I ask seems to have it or can't get it. Might stock up next time I'm over there.

because all of us get our tren at walmart  ::)
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: the trainer on September 26, 2011, 03:52:41 PM
due to popular demand,,
those are must hormone in blood for top amatuer and ofcourse profesional,, insulina and hgh are not a must for fitness model level phsyiqes eventhough today fitness model fellas are on hgh every few months then off,, in general those 5 hormones here are must inorder to get high in the ranks of npc competetive bodybuild aka national and then profeisional ,, local competition can do with out insulina and hgh ,, some do it completly natural but dont expect anything better than 3-5 placing in your class in the local if truly natural and that class will never be heavy or light heavy or super heavy kt will be light weight or middle weight as true natural ,,and thats if you have very good genetic and only! in local which is not national or profesional ofcourse

1. HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE,, with out it there is no pro conditioned size,, no matter how much you will jump and shout from morning to night,, no human growth hormone in blood with the window of 6 months writen in bible = no pro conditioned size and no pro card

2. TRENBOLONA ACE,, this is the most important most most most importanto anabolic steroids you can ever put into your blood,, it is more important than any other hormone even more important than hgh when it come to muscle condition,,
with out trenbolona ace THERE IS ABSOLITLY NO ADVANCE BODYBUILDER,,bodybuild with no trenbolona ace doesnt will always hear he look good...but never great,, will alwys hear yes you look good fella but but remember in the summer....remember when you were seperated and chest and deltd were huge and you were shred to pieces ,, that time you were better ,, i dont say you dont look good friend but its not what you were few month back ,, this! is what you hear when bodybuild is not on trenbolona ace!

trenbolona ace is the ONLY steroid that will let you eat anything,, you can eat icecream on this steroid and grow lean and ripped,, you can eat buns you can eat sushi ,, you can eat normal! and be shred! it is an aas with the capacity to get you in condition quite fast while at the same time growing you in the lean muscle departmnt ,, it grow you and burn fat same time,, you see it mainly to begin with by the vein poping out everywhere they go up from under the water and start poping all around if lean to begin with ,, thennn the seperation start occuring ,, it is daily changes not weekly ,, daily change on doses of 100-200 mg every day or 2 ,, you talk here about real fast changes,, and ofcourse after few months you are a walking competetive bodybuild ,, highly impressive when it come to condition withsmall waist depending on your hgh and insulina intake...with no insulina you will have 30 inch waist while you are 210lb ! when on trenbolona ace,, it is only! on trenbolona ace when the skin attach itself to the muscle in the attractive way you see in a magazine where the girl take a look and pondering why her man doesnt look even remotely close to it,, it is combo of THICKNESS AND! CONDITION which is considered shreded to ripped depending on the time you been on trenbolona ace,, the longer you are on it the more invinsible you come condition wize and the more lean size you pack on you ,, and! the more impressive you look even when weight on scale come to a stop because even then! bodyfat continue to go down ,, ALL WITH ZERO CARDIO!


3. insulina,, with out insulina you will never create a mutation on a larger fella,, a 5'8+ fella with no insulina in blood will never create mutatition ,, he will never be able to poses the 240lb+ on stage you see now day ,,insulina in today bodybuild and with deep pain i say this...is a mustyou just wont get to 240 you will be 210 with out insulina

4. testosterona,, it has to be there at some dose prefebly cycling depending on prep timing or not,, testosterona is a hormone to THICKEN an already lean physiqe,, it also keep stamina and keep your MOOD at the right place,, it can fuck up condition when abused especialy when prep and especialy! when not done according to your lean muscle ,, a 200lb 5'9 fella do not prep on 1 gram testosterona for show! the end,, again testosterona is important and need to be taken sometime in higher doses to grow but it is ONLY when you have high hgh in blood ,, testosterona intake shoudl be paralel line to hgh intake ,, if you cant aford hgh or dont have it ...the testosterona doses should go DOWN

5. equipona ,, as important as testosterona ,, but testosterona is rated higher because it has medical application and it is the main hormone in all human body,, equipona is second best anabolic for bodybuild,, it grow you from the inside out slowly,, it cupp your delt very nice and it add polish to your look that only a bodyhbuild can see and recognize,, it is again attractive skin look that is wraped around muscle almost like a vaccum,, for final vaccum trenbolona and then diuretic are introduced

gh15 approved




Gh15 you did not post anything here that the average gym rat who pops dinabol pills dont know. I guess your bible is geared towards people who have no idea about juicing and if that is the case, the stacks that you are giving out are over the top, you need to get it together.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: D.O.U.P on September 26, 2011, 03:58:27 PM

Gh15 you did post anything here that the average gym rat who pops dinabol pills dont know. I guess your bible is geared towards people who have no idea about juicing and if that is the case, the stacks that you are giving out are over the top, you need to get it together.


Do you really BELIEVE the inaccurate blather you write. YOU need to get it together.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: polychronopolous on September 26, 2011, 04:01:42 PM
Do you really BELIEVE the inaccurate blather you write. YOU need to get it together.

Of course he doesn't, he just writes it to get attention.

Just read his past 20 or 30 posts and it's the same shit, "Getbig sucks" "Everybody here is stupid and gay"

Eventually he will be banned and thrown in the same heap with the rest of the gimmicks for be lame and unfunny, nothing to see here folks.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: the trainer on September 26, 2011, 04:15:08 PM
Do you really BELIEVE the inaccurate blather you write. YOU need to get it together.

 Actually my dumb friend i am trying to help you to make sure that you get the proper knowledge since the gh stacks are over the top for novice bodybuilders.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: James28 on September 26, 2011, 04:15:23 PM
You're trolling. England is the easiest place in the world to get gear

No shit. I can get gear alright, everyone is selling but nobody actually comes through with promises. I have Test crawling out of my ass but want to cycle with Tren. Just cannot find any. You'd swear I'm after pictures of the Queen fucking a chimp.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: James28 on September 26, 2011, 04:17:10 PM
because all of us get our tren at walmart  ::)

Relax Michelle.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: the trainer on September 26, 2011, 04:18:26 PM
Of course he doesn't, he just writes it to get attention.

Just read his past 20 or 30 posts and it's the same shit, "Getbig sucks" "Everybody here is stupid and gay"

Eventually he will be banned and thrown in the same heap with the rest of the gimmicks for be lame and unfunny, nothing to see here folks.

 Its best if you are quiet since you know nothing about bodybuilding, if I where you I would be asking me for help.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: hangclean on September 26, 2011, 04:21:30 PM
Well I went from 14% bf to 8% bf in 5 weeks without losing an ounce of muscle or strength ... on their "garbage" tren/test mix .

I have posted plenty of pics....there will always be guys who get shit results and say the stuff was garbage...its their response to gear that is garbage
27 bucks for tren ace is hard to beat.  Have you tried any of those high dose blends they have?
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: DK II on September 26, 2011, 04:56:04 PM
You're trolling. England is the easiest place in the world to get gear

x2, at least much easier than in the US.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: delta9mda on September 26, 2011, 05:10:26 PM
This is all you need  8)
but this is ugl
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: deceiver on September 26, 2011, 05:23:32 PM
Guys from PL who moved to UK say it's much better than in Poland and here you can get gear from EVERYONE.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: danabol on September 26, 2011, 05:51:25 PM
You're trolling. England is the easiest place in the world to get gear

i agree its pritty dam easy to get any shit here....no problem
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: D.O.U.P on September 26, 2011, 05:52:44 PM
Its best if you are quiet since you know nothing about bodybuilding, if I where you I would be asking me for help.

Really? hahahahahahhhhahahaha  You are either A.delusional  B. fucking about
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: bladerunner on September 26, 2011, 06:34:00 PM
It is, and it should be known.


I rather have the youngsters come to this site and read the bible and realize how fucked up this cult is instead of believing all the lies about "natural" pros and snake oil supplements.

You must be really stupid if you think that everyone who reads the bible will go and start high doses of Tren, HGH, Insulin and Test the next day, actually all the people here that follow gh15's advice are older than 30 or close to 30 or have already been in the game for a long time and have used their share of hormones.

No fucking high school kid can afford 15 i.u. of HGH and 1g Test plus Tren Ace plus all the Sushi and Pineapple Juice, but some will realize and understand that they can NEVER look like their favorite pro while drinking some sugary creatine-NO-crap supplement for 80$$ and the small small amount of people who will say fuck it, i want to turn pro will do the steroids anyways, gh15 or not.

You = fukcing stupid.


EPIC OWNING
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: johnnynoname on September 26, 2011, 06:46:46 PM
due to popular demand,,
those are must hormone in blood for top amatuer and ofcourse profesional,, insulina and hgh are not a must for fitness model level phsyiqes eventhough today fitness model fellas are on hgh every few months then off,, in general those 5 hormones here are must inorder to get high in the ranks of npc competetive bodybuild aka national and then profeisional ,, local competition can do with out insulina and hgh ,, some do it completly natural but dont expect anything better than 3-5 placing in your class in the local if truly natural and that class will never be heavy or light heavy or super heavy kt will be light weight or middle weight as true natural ,,and thats if you have very good genetic and only! in local which is not national or profesional ofcourse

1. HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE,, with out it there is no pro conditioned size,, no matter how much you will jump and shout from morning to night,, no human growth hormone in blood with the window of 6 months writen in bible = no pro conditioned size and no pro card

2. TRENBOLONA ACE,, this is the most important most most most importanto anabolic steroids you can ever put into your blood,, it is more important than any other hormone even more important than hgh when it come to muscle condition,,
with out trenbolona ace THERE IS ABSOLITLY NO ADVANCE BODYBUILDER,,bodybuild with no trenbolona ace doesnt will always hear he look good...but never great,, will alwys hear yes you look good fella but but remember in the summer....remember when you were seperated and chest and deltd were huge and you were shred to pieces ,, that time you were better ,, i dont say you dont look good friend but its not what you were few month back ,, this! is what you hear when bodybuild is not on trenbolona ace!

trenbolona ace is the ONLY steroid that will let you eat anything,, you can eat icecream on this steroid and grow lean and ripped,, you can eat buns you can eat sushi ,, you can eat normal! and be shred! it is an aas with the capacity to get you in condition quite fast while at the same time growing you in the lean muscle departmnt ,, it grow you and burn fat same time,, you see it mainly to begin with by the vein poping out everywhere they go up from under the water and start poping all around if lean to begin with ,, thennn the seperation start occuring ,, it is daily changes not weekly ,, daily change on doses of 100-200 mg every day or 2 ,, you talk here about real fast changes,, and ofcourse after few months you are a walking competetive bodybuild ,, highly impressive when it come to condition withsmall waist depending on your hgh and insulina intake...with no insulina you will have 30 inch waist while you are 210lb ! when on trenbolona ace,, it is only! on trenbolona ace when the skin attach itself to the muscle in the attractive way you see in a magazine where the girl take a look and pondering why her man doesnt look even remotely close to it,, it is combo of THICKNESS AND! CONDITION which is considered shreded to ripped depending on the time you been on trenbolona ace,, the longer you are on it the more invinsible you come condition wize and the more lean size you pack on you ,, and! the more impressive you look even when weight on scale come to a stop because even then! bodyfat continue to go down ,, ALL WITH ZERO CARDIO!


3. insulina,, with out insulina you will never create a mutation on a larger fella,, a 5'8+ fella with no insulina in blood will never create mutatition ,, he will never be able to poses the 240lb+ on stage you see now day ,,insulina in today bodybuild and with deep pain i say this...is a mustyou just wont get to 240 you will be 210 with out insulina

4. testosterona,, it has to be there at some dose prefebly cycling depending on prep timing or not,, testosterona is a hormone to THICKEN an already lean physiqe,, it also keep stamina and keep your MOOD at the right place,, it can fuck up condition when abused especialy when prep and especialy! when not done according to your lean muscle ,, a 200lb 5'9 fella do not prep on 1 gram testosterona for show! the end,, again testosterona is important and need to be taken sometime in higher doses to grow but it is ONLY when you have high hgh in blood ,, testosterona intake shoudl be paralel line to hgh intake ,, if you cant aford hgh or dont have it ...the testosterona doses should go DOWN

5. equipona ,, as important as testosterona ,, but testosterona is rated higher because it has medical application and it is the main hormone in all human body,, equipona is second best anabolic for bodybuild,, it grow you from the inside out slowly,, it cupp your delt very nice and it add polish to your look that only a bodyhbuild can see and recognize,, it is again attractive skin look that is wraped around muscle almost like a vaccum,, for final vaccum trenbolona and then diuretic are introduced

gh15 approved



great read

would someone like to put together a good cycle involving these substances

I haven't hit the gas in a while and looking to seriously get huge as getting close to my natural limit

pm me if you want
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: DK II on September 26, 2011, 07:22:39 PM
great read

would someone like to put together a good cycle involving these substances

I haven't hit the gas in a while and looking to seriously get huge as getting close to my natural limit

pm me if you want

ahahahaahaha, wtf?
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: pellius on September 26, 2011, 07:25:43 PM
GH15 - You talk crap. Everyone who has been on here for years knows the GH15 account is a gimmick of several people - One minute you are writing in fluent English, next you are writing like a European in broken English.

The account is a gimmick, you claim this and claim that but its all talk.

You CAN build a great foundation of muscle on good food and intelligent training. You tell these youngsters that they have to risk their lives and blow huge amounts of money to fulfill their bodybuilding goals when you know they are never going to make it to being pros. You talk Fitness models well they certainly don't need to do all these drugs and hormones to achieve that physique.

Only teenagers and morons in their 20's listen to you on here. The rest of us know you are just a low life nothing who has never even seen a bodybuilding stage let alone posed on one with the best.

Why do people like you presume to speak for everybody else? I've been on this board longer than you (started with a different ID), I'm far more active here than you are and think gh15 is a single person and not a gimmick. I'm not a teenager or a moron in my 20s. I have a degree from UCLA. And I'm not the only vet on this board that is grateful for the information gh15 provides. A lot of his admitted pupil are here: Stavios, Spike, Okami, Tbombz, Leafy, Groink, DonkeyK, Bboy, Dustin... many more that are very high level bodybuilders. None are teenagers or morons. They don't don't think he is a low life nothing. We'll polled the board before and his popularity is huge. Not just here but on other boards as well. Boards around the world. How many people pm you for advice? Just google gh15. So there is no "the rest of us." It's just a few who don't believe in freedom of speech. So speak for yourself. You are a tiny minority on this board.

You say, btw, that you can do great on just food and intelligent training. Do you practice what you preach? What have you accomplished with just food and intelligent training? Show us a pic and we'll compare you to guys like Dustin, Stavios, Groink and Spike.  Maybe you can inspire us.  
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: no one on September 26, 2011, 08:04:07 PM

lol 'trev' getting passed around like fresh meat in prison by DKII and pellius.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Theoak* on September 26, 2011, 09:14:21 PM
I would stay on tren year round if I could, its magic cant imagine the mutation that would occur combining it with hgh.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: dyslexic on September 26, 2011, 09:52:33 PM
Hey, asshats, if you don't like what gh15 has to say, just ignore him, ffs. For every homo bashing him, there are 10 of us reading every word and being enlightened.


And hunting down pure egg white protein...
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: gh15 on September 26, 2011, 09:57:55 PM
No shit. I can get gear alright, everyone is selling but nobody actually comes through with promises. I have Test crawling out of my ass but want to cycle with Tren. Just cannot find any. You'd swear I'm after pictures of the Queen fucking a chimp.

well friends,, you need to pray and wait on the door,, if a source open you will be in if waited ,, many sources sell good trenbolona,, the best trenbolona now day according to elfs belong to strengo,, but he is not servicing just anyone,, you need time to get in with anyone,, some are open sources some are private,, most important is safety because they are the actual fellas that responsible to your bodybuild sucess,, their safety is highly important

gh15 approved
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: notsureifsrs on September 26, 2011, 10:21:54 PM
well friends,, you need to pray and wait on the door,, if a source open you will be in if waited ,, many sources sell good trenbolona,, the best trenbolona now day according to elfs belong to strengo,, but he is not servicing just anyone,, you need time to get in with anyone,, some are open sources some are private,, most important is safety because they are the actual fellas that responsible to your bodybuild sucess,, their safety is highly important

gh15 approved
And what about nordic's tren?
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: gh15 on September 26, 2011, 10:27:34 PM
nordic trenbolona is very good,, anything nordic has a stamp on is very good,, no one would be in cult for so long with so many word of praises from so many bodybuild if not good,, nordic proved himself million time around,,


gh15 approved
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Nasty Nate on September 26, 2011, 10:42:55 PM
He's a selective scammer. Sounds like Groink got good stuff if he got those results. I bought some prop and primo awhile back. It was kind of painful they must cut some corners when they brew it.

 ::)
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on September 27, 2011, 12:59:46 AM
Nordic tren ace hurt though
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: mossel on September 27, 2011, 01:17:26 AM
tren makes my kidneys hurt...
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: WillGrant on September 27, 2011, 01:26:20 AM
. You'd swear I'm after pictures of the Queen fucking a chimp.
I got some of those  :D
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: notsureifsrs on September 27, 2011, 01:52:22 AM
tren makes my kidneys hurt...
Less alcohol ?
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: mossel on September 27, 2011, 03:03:03 AM
so... how about the tren ace nose sprays...... anybody ever did/ cook that?
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Secret Stack on September 27, 2011, 07:45:40 AM
I would stay on tren year round if I could, its magic cant imagine the mutation that would occur combining it with hgh.

same with me! i have never gotten any bad blood readings with it, so i know i can go all out on it but it shaves my hair quicker than a brand new razor could. i would be on it year round otherwise.

just curious to know why you yourself said "if i could"?
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: mossel on September 27, 2011, 12:54:25 PM
about the tren spray....
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: pellius on September 28, 2011, 04:15:40 AM
Unless you are already a pro and have the genetics of a Heath or Kai, you'd have to be a complete moron to take Insulin.

You realize both Heath and Kai, and every one who walks on the pro stage, used insulin before turning pro.

And Okami is a moron? Really? Do you know anything about this guy? Do you know what he's accomplished for a guy who just turned 29 years old? What do you do for a living? What kind of level have you achieved in bodybuilding.

You're pretty free and loose with your tongue, my friend, but can you back up any of your shit talking?
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: pellius on September 28, 2011, 04:18:51 AM
im bored right now,, let me play with him a little ,,

how about this english my friend? do you think i have a rough time writing perfect english? lets be serious here....the gh15 grammer is made to be horrible on purpose,, i said it over and over again and again in the past....

the idea behind gh15 is to shed the truth about BODYBUILDING,, it is made with the intention to help not to destroy,,the only ingredient you need when you try to help someone is

THE DAMN FUCKIN TRUTH!

how's this english for you my friend?

gh15 approved

Now say it in German.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: dyslexic on September 28, 2011, 04:24:53 AM
well friends,, you need to pray and wait on the door,, if a source open you will be in if waited ,, many sources sell good trenbolona,, the best trenbolona now day according to elfs belong to strengo,, but he is not servicing just anyone,, you need time to get in with anyone,, some are open sources some are private,, most important is safety because they are the actual fellas that responsible to your bodybuild sucess,, their safety is highly important

gh15 approved


I can relate to that....
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: trapz101 on September 28, 2011, 04:26:11 AM
Now say it in German.


or arabic
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: StanZoLOL on September 28, 2011, 04:26:19 AM
You realize both Heath and Kai, and every one who walks on the pro stage, used insulin before turning pro.

I can actually believed Heath turned pro w/o using gh/slin. His head/face looks totally different now.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Trev on September 28, 2011, 04:33:57 AM
You realize both Heath and Kai, and every one who walks on the pro stage, used insulin before turning pro.

And Okami is a moron? Really? Do you know anything about this guy? Do you know what he's accomplished for a guy who just turned 29 years old? What do you do for a living? What kind of level have you achieved in bodybuilding.

You're pretty free and loose with your tongue, my friend, but can you back up any of your shit talking?
Calm down dear!!
I think you are taking this bodybuilding lark too seriously. These guys you mentioned have deemed it worth risking a shortened life for the short term fame and financial rewards. Deep down we all know if we have the genetics to be one of the 2% that can become rich from bodybuilding competition.
To me it isn't worth the risk as I have a career that pays as well as if not better than the top pros make.
I am more than happy with what I have achieved in 27 years of dedicated bodybuilding thank you.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: pellius on September 28, 2011, 04:37:18 AM
That's the point, you don't walk, you just talk behind your screen. I am sure we would all take note if you were a pro.
Arnold would say "Its not dat hart, to give him de wrong advises"

Why don't you come out from behind the screen?
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: DK II on September 28, 2011, 04:46:03 AM
or arabic

Gunter can't speak arabic, you moron.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: GettingBig on September 28, 2011, 10:18:44 AM
You realize both Heath and Kai, and every one who walks on the pro stage, used insulin before turning pro.

And Okami is a moron? Really? Do you know anything about this guy? Do you know what he's accomplished for a guy who just turned 29 years old? What do you do for a living? What kind of level have you achieved in bodybuilding.

You're pretty free and loose with your tongue, my friend, but can you back up any of your shit talking?

i really dont get it ! who cares what this guy takes or do ! who cares about how much money someone made out of bodybuilding or anything in life ! why many comes here and try to prove either they are natural for life with 19inch arm and 4% bf ! or try to take away anyone accomplishment in life !

i dont know Okami and im sure he knows that ! but why insult someone just because you believe in some blah blah we here to share what each one of us like and do, yes some maybe like to be natural good for them some are pro's and some also lies been natural ! and the worse of the posters some never touched weights or even joined a gym all they do is drug that drug this !
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Khofo on September 28, 2011, 10:26:12 AM
Gunter can't speak arabic, you moron.



 george walkér bush ferraH JunioR= gh15 or mr NASSAR snbt féLLa = hiM
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: GettingBig on September 28, 2011, 10:29:32 AM
Gunter can't speak arabic, you moron.

and who told you GH15 is Gunter !

he is not :) you guys need to stop worrying and thinking who he is !

better to focus on what he says and expose then you follow his way or either you follow yours or anyone else !

and either way you can look and be the best or worse !

bodybuilding reminds of of this Quote:

 "The trouble with life isn't that there is no answer, it's that there are so many answers"
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: mossel on September 28, 2011, 10:37:11 AM
so the nose spray isn't a big hit around here...
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: pellius on September 30, 2011, 12:59:28 AM
Calm down dear!!
I think you are taking this bodybuilding lark too seriously. These guys you mentioned have deemed it worth risking a shortened life for the short term fame and financial rewards. Deep down we all know if we have the genetics to be one of the 2% that can become rich from bodybuilding competition.
To me it isn't worth the risk as I have a career that pays as well as if not better than the top pros make.
I am more than happy with what I have achieved in 27 years of dedicated bodybuilding thank you.

Hardly, you're the one preoccupied with what other people do. What other people say. It isn't worth the risks to YOU. Fine. Let others make those decisions themselves. Let others speak their mind without having to preface it with a disclaimer to satisfy you. You do realize that a disclaimer protects no one except the one doing the "disclaiming"?

BTW, what exactly have you "achieved" in 27years of bodybuilding?
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: hangclean on September 30, 2011, 01:13:15 AM
tren makes my kidneys hurt...
tren does not do anything to your kidneys.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: gh15 on September 30, 2011, 01:22:24 AM
thats corect,, trenbolona has no kidny toxicity what so ever,, EVEN IF ABUSED!

gh15 approved
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Kwon_2 on September 30, 2011, 01:32:57 AM
Trevis is a Foggot

http://www.27bslash6.com/foggot.html
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: 20inch calves on September 30, 2011, 01:33:40 AM
testerona is number 1 first and foremost
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: gh15 on September 30, 2011, 01:36:06 AM
testerona is number 1 first and foremost

only! if you got enough gh to go with it,, too much testosterona can ruin a physiqe if not enough gh the blod

gh15 approved
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: GroinkTropin on September 30, 2011, 01:41:43 AM
only! if you got enough gh to go with it,, too much testosterona can ruin a physiqe if not enough gh the blod

gh15 approved

Test is not best!!!
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: asiansensation on September 30, 2011, 02:47:30 AM
testerona is number 1 first and foremost

You should read the BIBLE more.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Bobby on September 30, 2011, 06:12:29 AM
thats corect,, trenbolona has no kidny toxicity what so ever,, EVEN IF ABUSED!

gh15 approved

so it just makes your hair fall off and cough alot?
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: illwill on September 30, 2011, 06:15:39 AM
so it just makes your hair fall off and cough alot?

and makes your balls sweat. & look insanely great.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: thebdog on September 30, 2011, 06:34:37 AM
only! if you got enough gh to go with it,, too much testosterona can ruin a physiqe if not enough gh the blod

gh15 approved

so how much gh should be used in ratio to the testosterona dose so that it doesnt ruin the physique?? 10iu hgh to 1000mgs of test for example.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: deceiver on September 30, 2011, 07:25:09 AM
gh what do you think about this cycle:

1-12 cypio 400mg/week
1-10 tren ace 50mg ed

for 167lbs in condition 5'5'' bodybuilder? i wanna add about 10lbs and get some real lean size, no more being puffy and shitty.

i also add 25mg of atd every other day for estrogen management
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: BiGHer on September 30, 2011, 11:27:39 AM
only! if you got enough gh to go with it,, too much testosterona can ruin a physiqe if not enough gh the blod

gh15 approved

Gh15, what is a good gh:test/anabolics ratio?  I remember seeing in the bible you once wrote a 6 gram total AAS per week cycle with 15 iu of gh per day.  This would imply 2.5 iu's gh per gram aas. 
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: French on September 30, 2011, 11:37:09 AM
what's the BF ??  < 5%  :o

Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Disgusted on September 30, 2011, 11:41:39 AM
what's the BF ??  < 5%  :o



 ???
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: el numero uno on September 30, 2011, 12:15:35 PM
what's the BF ??  < 5%  :o



 :o
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: lesaucer on September 30, 2011, 12:25:43 PM
what's the BF ??  < 5%  :o



HOLY SHIT
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Swlabr on September 30, 2011, 12:28:02 PM
what's the BF ??  < 5%  :o



groce
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: deceiver on September 30, 2011, 01:18:15 PM
what's the BF ??  < 5%  :o



dead
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: kreator on September 30, 2011, 01:20:46 PM
saw him last week leaving our gym, was covered up though
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: JUMPER on September 30, 2011, 01:33:28 PM
Gh 15. How do you like to use t3 , t4 clen and dnp for dieting ? Thanks
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: L.L on September 30, 2011, 02:22:49 PM
gh15, what about libido loss on trenbolona??  I dont wanna lose the powerful erection testosterona and provirona are giving me right now? any special precaution while on trenbolna??
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Garb316HHH on September 30, 2011, 02:40:17 PM
Another picture of the corpse ZUP, walking dead. :)

Missing chest and biceps
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: g101 on September 30, 2011, 02:41:11 PM
Gh 15. How do you like to use t3 , t4 clen and dnp for dieting ? Thanks

wait for phase 4  :)
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Palpatine Q on September 30, 2011, 02:43:35 PM
Another picture of the corpse ZUP, walking dead. :)

Missing chest and biceps

You couldn't pay me to look like that, that's nasty
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: njflex on September 30, 2011, 03:59:13 PM
You couldn't pay me to look like that, that's nasty
that's crazy hard,vascular,but it detracts from the overall look everything blurs together .still nutz that condition.i bet he looks like that close yr round.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: dyslexic on September 30, 2011, 04:08:13 PM
That look is insane.

At least his face isn't too fucked up...in other words, it doesn't match the physique. Covered up, you would never know.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: D.O.U.P on September 30, 2011, 04:42:53 PM
Dys- Usually we agree. Not this time. HIS FACE IS A HORROR SHOW, LOOK AT IT!
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: njflex on September 30, 2011, 04:52:46 PM
that's not the macho man p.i.p. later in life.face wise.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: GroinkTropin on September 30, 2011, 07:58:32 PM
what's the BF ??  < 5%  :o



Dude that is low 4%

This guy will drop dead if he stays that lean and I am not joking. It's NOT healthy at all. A day or two for a show fine, but no longer!!!
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Wiggs on September 30, 2011, 08:02:26 PM
Holy shit, who the fuck is that guy? Not mR. O. material but that is sickest, nastiest, and mutated dude ive seen.

This is where jay steals his veins.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: liljj on September 30, 2011, 08:10:52 PM
Of course vascularity in largely genetic, but this, this, is diuretic abuse. Bible chapter 480
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: gh15 on October 01, 2011, 12:48:55 AM
gh15, what about libido loss on trenbolona??  I dont wanna lose the powerful erection testosterona and provirona are giving me right now? any special precaution while on trenbolna??

what los? you want to fuck any fat whore that sing,,libido loss? you get so hard you break pussy of whore,,whore will complain her right side and left sidde hurt before you ever fucked her long enough,,trenbolona is known sexual stimulant,,make you a bull in bed,,only problem ....you cum like a black fella from nigeria that has 12 inch cock...very very little,, the cum is nothing to talk about ...the shouts you make when you cum is a lot to talk about ,, and....the fuck itself ,, you pound her to death ,,


sex go up on trenbolona
gh15 approved
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: gh15 on October 01, 2011, 12:50:20 AM
Holy shit, who the fuck is that guy? Not mR. O. material but that is sickest, nastiest, and mutated dude ive seen.

This is where jay steals his veins.

fella has been on trenboloan ace for 2 year strzaight atleast ,,this is trenbolona none stop for months over months with diuretic at the end,,he look very good yes but not enough muscle to make damage 

gh15 approved
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Meso_z on October 01, 2011, 12:54:46 AM
what's the BF ??  < 5%  :o


Jesus Christ... :-\
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: Secret Stack on October 01, 2011, 08:17:53 AM
Jesus Christ... :-\

yes, he'll be meeting him soon.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: illwill on October 01, 2011, 10:34:39 AM
what los? you want to fuck any fat whore that sing,,libido loss? you get so hard you break pussy of whore,,whore will complain her right side and left sidde hurt before you ever fucked her long enough,,trenbolona is known sexual stimulant,,make you a bull in bed,,only problem ....you cum like a black fella from nigeria that has 12 inch cock...very very little,, the cum is nothing to talk about ...the shouts you make when you cum is a lot to talk about ,, and....the fuck itself ,, you pound her to death ,,


sex go up on trenbolona
gh15 approved


Bible index
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: io856 on October 01, 2011, 10:37:10 AM
what los? you want to fuck any fat whore that sing,,libido loss? you get so hard you break pussy of whore,,whore will complain her right side and left sidde hurt before you ever fucked her long enough,,trenbolona is known sexual stimulant,,make you a bull in bed,,only problem ....you cum like a black fella from nigeria that has 12 inch cock...very very little,, the cum is nothing to talk about ...the shouts you make when you cum is a lot to talk about ,, and....the fuck itself ,, you pound her to death ,,


sex go up on trenbolona
gh15 approved
THIS!

fuckin oath

all this balonie about tren dick or some shit is dumb

It made me a BULL like you say! you don't lick the pussy you eat it  on that shit lol
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: L.L on October 01, 2011, 11:19:59 AM
what los? you want to fuck any fat whore that sing,,libido loss? you get so hard you break pussy of whore,,whore will complain her right side and left sidde hurt before you ever fucked her long enough,,trenbolona is known sexual stimulant,,make you a bull in bed,,only problem ....you cum like a black fella from nigeria that has 12 inch cock...very very little,, the cum is nothing to talk about ...the shouts you make when you cum is a lot to talk about ,, and....the fuck itself ,, you pound her to death ,,


sex go up on trenbolona
gh15 approved
\\




awesome!!....I will keep my test around 800mgs weekly and masterona around 400 as well..,,thanks G
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: lesaucer on October 01, 2011, 11:30:13 AM
what los? you want to fuck any fat whore that sing,,libido loss? you get so hard you break pussy of whore,,whore will complain her right side and left sidde hurt before you ever fucked her long enough,,trenbolona is known sexual stimulant,,make you a bull in bed,,only problem ....you cum like a black fella from nigeria that has 12 inch cock...very very little,, the cum is nothing to talk about ...the shouts you make when you cum is a lot to talk about ,, and....the fuck itself ,, you pound her to death ,,


sex go up on trenbolona
gh15 approved

100% true! only downsides of tren is the small amount of cum you will jizz on whores face, and the small balls, that really fucking sucks i wish they could make a pill that keep your balls normal
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: illwill on October 01, 2011, 11:46:14 AM
For once, a man has to fake orgasm!    No limp tren dick around these parts
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: L.L on October 01, 2011, 11:52:24 AM
100% true! only downsides of tren is the small amount of cum you will jizz on whores face, and the small balls, that really fucking sucks i wish they could make a pill that keep your balls normal

HCG while on it.??
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: lesaucer on October 01, 2011, 12:15:56 PM
HCG while on it.??

tried it and didnt do shit.. after that i saw some posts of a guy on another forum, i dont remember which one, who was saying that hcg have nothing to do with the size of your balls and that the only thing that can help with that is clomid and nolva..
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: liljj on October 01, 2011, 12:16:23 PM
HCG while on it.??

It depends james. Do you plan on coming off? If so,  yes.If not, have at it. To be precise Trenbolona as well as Anadrol , have to be dosed out with a caring hand. Timing. timing. If GHonefive taught you anything it's this.
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: DK II on October 03, 2011, 02:43:24 AM
what's the BF ??  < 5%  :o



Holy shit.  :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: the most important hormones in modrn bodybuild,,bible index
Post by: pellius on October 03, 2011, 03:21:00 AM
Barely made weight for his fight.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=397207.0;attach=433185;image)