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N.J. Gov. Chris Christie can't douse buzz over possible presidential bid
Michael Finnegan | McClatchy-Tribune News Service
September 28, 2011 06:31:14 AM
LOS ANGELES — With speculation swirling anew about whether he intends to join the field of Republican presidential candidates, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie referred a crowd in California on Tuesday to a string of his previous comments on the matter, strung together in a Web video.
The video, on the Politico website, represented his "answers back to back to back together on the question of running for the presidency," he told hundreds of Republicans gathered at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley - several of whom asked him to run.
Among the responses on the video: "I'm 100 percent certain I'm not going to run," "I don't want to run" and "I don't feel ready in my heart to be president."
Despite the demurrals, the latest surge of Christie-mania - particularly among some party donors anxious for new options - has only raised Christie's national profile and enhanced his draw on the campaign money circuit. He's scooping up checks for the New Jersey Republican Party this week at events in Beverly Hills, Santa Ana, Silicon Valley, Missouri and Louisiana.
So it came as little surprise that Christie added another dash of fuel to the talk by taking a shot at Texas Gov. Rick Perry, a leading Republican contender for president.
Responding to a question from the audience, Christie said he opposed laws that allow the children of illegal immigrants to pay lower in-state tuition at public colleges. Perry, who has taken heat from rivals for approving such a law in Texas, has said critics of the policy have no heart.
"From my perspective, that is not a heartless position," Christie said. "That is a common-sense position."
In a half-hour speech paying tribute to Reagan, Christie also took swipes at President Barack Obama, saying the Democratic incumbent was trying to "divide our nation to achieve re-election."
"This is not a leadership style," Christie said, referring to the president's proposal to raise taxes on high-income earners. "This is a re-election strategy - telling those who are scared and struggling that the only way their lives can get better is to diminish the success of others ... insisting that we must tax and take and demonize those who have already achieved the American dream."
"That may turn out to be a good re-election strategy, Mr. President, but it is a demoralizing message for America," Christie said. The crowd burst into applause.
While saying Obama lacked "the courage to lead," Christie was more mild in his implied criticism of fellow Republicans who control the House of Representatives.
"We watch a Congress at war with itself because they're unwilling to leave campaign-style politics at the Capitol's door," he said. "The result is a debt ceiling limitation debate that made our democracy appear as if we could no longer effectively govern ourselves."
Rumors on Christie's potential presidential run were stoked earlier in the day in a National Review report that Thomas Kean, a former New Jersey governor, said Christie was giving a lot of thought to appeals "from major figures around the country."
"I think the odds are a lot better now than they were a couple weeks ago," Kean said.
During questioning, the subject of a run was raised by three people in the Reagan Library audience. One woman got a standing ovation after telling him, "I really implore you as a citizen of this country to please, sir, reconsider."
"Your country needs you," she said.
Christie joked that only "a crazy egomaniac" would see such appeals as a burden.
"It's extraordinarily flattering," he said. "But by the same token, that heartfelt message you gave me is also not a reason for me to do it. That reason has to reside inside me."
Michael Finnegan writes for the Los Angeles Times. Visit the Los Angeles Times at www.latimes.com.
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LOL good post Benny, I disagree with calling him a fatso that is a low blow, maybe if he was dumb like coach, but the obvious is not funny. It is funny though that the republicans are scared shitless because they still CAN'T find a candidate. 67% of people in this country want to tax the rich, Obama will preach it and deliver.
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Read it and weep!!!
Barack Obama, Democratic Wrecking Ball
Here’s yet more good news for Democrats. National Journal reports:
One of the Democratic party’s leading pollsters [Stanley Greenberg] released a survey of 60 Republican-held battleground districts today, painting an ominous picture for congressional Democrats in 2012. The poll shows Democratic House candidates faring worse than they did in the 2010 midterms, being dragged down by an unpopular president who would lose to both Texas Gov. Rick Perry and Mitt Romney.
The story goes on to say that instead of an overall anti-incumbent sentiment impacting members of both parties, voters are taking more of their anger out on Democrats. When voters were asked whether they’re supporting the Republican incumbent or a Democratic candidate, 50 percent preferred the Republican and just 41 percent backed the Democrat. And here’s the really ominous news for Democrats: Voters in these districts said they were more supportive of Republicans than they were during the 2010 midterms, when 48 percent said they backed the Republican candidate and 42 percent said they backed the Democrat. (Republicans won 55 percent of the overall vote in these 60 battleground districts, while Democrats took 43 percent.) In 2010, Republicans netted 63 House seats – their best showing since 1948.
There’s also this: President Obama’s job approval rating in the battleground districts is just 41 percent — and only 43 percent in the 30 more competitive seats that are a little more Democratic.
What this means is right now, based on the data of a respected Democratic pollster, Democrats would — if the election were held today — suffer a wipeout that makes what happened to them in 2010 look like a walk in the park. And things are likely to get worse, not better, as the months roll on.
It may be that Barack Obama will do to the Democratic Party what no one, not even Ronald Reagan, could achieve–which is to bring it to its knees.
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/09/27/obama-poll-democrats-2012/ (http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/09/27/obama-poll-democrats-2012/)
Obama will deliver alright.......he'll deliver another trip to the woodshed for the Democrats.
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He did take the tax credits away from The Jersey Shore tv production, so that's gonna score him some potential votes.
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Governor Krispy Kreme!
He's my straight-talking, no BS governor, and I'll call him whatever I want. ;)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-J34ltC37jr0/TW8XpZg4giI/AAAAAAAABeg/_1ggRoHCrfM/s200/ChrisChristie++feb+2011TownHallByLuigiNovi3.jpg)
morbidly obese :-\
(http://fatnewsfeed.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/new-jersey-gov-chris-christie-99d5bddbd432aa00.jpg)
;D
(http://fiercefatties.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/domdel.jpg)
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http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/09/27/obama-poll-democrats-2012/ (http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/09/27/obama-poll-democrats-2012/)
Obama will deliver alright.......he'll deliver another trip to the woodshed for the Democrats.
So they prefer Republicans in...Republican-held districts?
Not trying to be condescending, I just don't really get it. Doesn't seem surprising that if you poll 60 places that elected Republicans, the majority probably lean Republican.
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So they prefer Republicans in...Republican-held districts?
Not trying to be condescending, I just don't really get it. Doesn't seem surprising that if you poll 60 places that elected Republicans, the majority probably lean Republican.
It means that, if the GOP is in good position to retain the seats they have AND SNATCH those seats that are "a little more Democratic". That could translate to an even larger majority in the House, along with the Senate, and ultimately the White House.
The gist of the article is Obama's bungling may lead to the Dems getting pummeled EVEN WORSE next year than they did last year. Only in 2012, Obama joins the screams of those Dems getting their backsides lit up.
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Here's the problem that many ignore...the republican party is a SOUTHERN party that has SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES as its base.
FATSO is from NEW JERSEY, and a lot less conservative then many in the punditry and the conservative media realize.
Even if Gov. Kreme were to run (and I don't believe he will), the Tea Baggers may like his combative style but not his views on several issues.
PerkinsChristie3
Tony Perkins, head of the Family Research Council, suggests New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie may have a tough time getting support from social conservatives if he decides to run for president.
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Benny - get over it and get yo marchin shoes on. Obama is done.
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Benny: Love the thread title. "fatso". haha... nice.
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Benny,
Please explain to us why you think we'd all be better of if Obama remained in office. Consequently, tell us why we'd be worse with a guy like Christie. Feel free to discuss their track records, positions on key issues, what changes each will make if they are in office.....
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Here's the problem that many ignore...the republican party is a SOUTHERN party that has SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES as its base.
FATSO is from NEW JERSEY, and a lot less conservative then many in the punditry and the conservative media realize.
Even if Gov. Kreme were to run (and I don't believe he will), the Tea Baggers may like his combative style but not his views on several issues.
PerkinsChristie3
Tony Perkins, head of the Family Research Council, suggests New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie may have a tough time getting support from social conservatives if he decides to run for president.
He's for school choice (conservative issue) and he's pro-life (conservative issue). He may butt heads with social conservatives on immigration and, perhaps, gay "marriage"/civil unions. But, he doesn't flat-out endorse the latter and has not tried to legalize gay "marriage" in New Jersey.
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Bernie Madoff / Joran Vandersloot 2012 would beat obama the way he is going.
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Bernie Madoff / Joran Vandersloot 2012 would beat obama the way he is going.
Or Conrad Murray/Casey Anthony 2012
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Benny,
Please explain to us why you think we'd all be better of if Obama remained in office. Consequently, tell us why we'd be worse with a guy like Christie. Feel free to discuss their track records, positions on key issues, what changes each will make if they are in office.....
Christie is fat, this is the primary problem.
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And Obama is a communist radical freak show?
Seems like weight problems are not nearly as important as having a human wrecking ball in the WH no?
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LOL good post Benny, I disagree with calling him a fatso that is a low blow, maybe if he was dumb like coach, but the obvious is not funny. It is funny though that the republicans are scared shitless because they still CAN'T find a candidate. 67% of people in this country want to tax the rich, Obama will preach it and deliver.
The truth of the matter is that many dems are frustrated with nobama.....it won't be a cake walk for barack.....he is wearing thin on many americans.....the repubs need a strong candidate....yes in deed....but it is not like nobama walks on water any more.....he is starting to become very much like a strong odor that you can't get out of your house.....so repubs aren't scared shitless....but they do need to produce a strong candidate......imho....H erman Cain is that person!!! He would make a fine prez!
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Repubs need to find a more exciting/intriguing candidate if they want to win. I bet there's a ton of "low information" voters who've never even heard of Christie or any of these candidates except for Palin and probably Romney, and I will eat my hat if either of them is ever president. As mediocre-to-bad as the Obama administration has been, none of these bozos seem likely to unseat him. Obama's not so bad that people are going to vote for whoever else runs just because (s)he's not Obama.
Another thing I think people haven't often considered is that all the people who overwhelmingly elected Obama just a few years ago are pretty likely to vote for him again. Nobody likes to admit a mistake!
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Repubs need to find a more exciting/intriguing candidate if they want to win. As mediocre-to-bad as the Obama administration has been, none of these bozos seem likely to unseat. Obama's not so bad that people are going to vote for whoever else runs just because (s)he's not Obama.
Tell that to the independents.
In Ohio, for example, Obama is virtually tied with BOTH Romney and Perry (44-41 over Perry and 44-42 over Romney). That's leaves 14-15 percent undecided.
And, as is traditionally the case, about 80% of the undecideds go FOR THE CHALLENGER. The fact that Obama is this low in that state (and others) this early does not bode well for him.
If the economy doesn't improve, he is toast (and so are the Dems).
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Allen West: Obama Intentionally Killing the Economy
Fox News ^ | 9-28-11 | Fox News
Fla. Rep. Allen West was asked if President Obama is just inept or if he is intentionally harming the economy. West says he’s definitely doing this on purpose.
(Video at the Fox News link.)
(Excerpt) Read more at nation.foxnews.com ...
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ANYONE CAN BEAT THE KENYAN MARXIST NEXT YEAR.
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Tell that to the independents.
In Ohio, for example, Obama is virtually tied with BOTH Romney and Perry (44-41 over Perry and 44-42 over Romney). That's leaves 14-15 percent undecided.
And, as is traditionally the case, about 80% of the undecideds go FOR THE CHALLENGER. The fact that Obama is this low in that state (and others) this early does not bode well for him.
If the economy doesn't improve, he is toast (and so are the Dems).
That is true but I think you need to wait for a little closer to election time for such forecasts to be relevant. The challenger "undecides" disproportion historically has only added a little over a 1% swing from the last pre-election poll with undecides left out (Gallup data), which would make it really close but not decisive for sure. Then again when you're talking about gaps and swings on the order of 1-3%, anything can happen really.
http://www.mysterypollster.com/main/2004/10/the_incumbent_r.html
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That is true but I think you need to wait for a little closer to election time for such forecasts to be relevant. The challenger "undecides" disproportion historically has only added a little over a 1% swing from the last pre-election poll with undecides left out (Gallup data), which would make it really close but not decisive for sure. Then again when you're talking about gaps and swings on the order of 1-3%, anything can happen really.
http://www.mysterypollster.com/main/2004/10/the_incumbent_r.html
All the GOP has to do is move the needle 3.5 points from 2008 and Obama is gone.
Obama is done.
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All the GOP has to do is move the needle 3.5 points from 2008 and Obama is gone.
Right, not disagreeing with that, I'm just saying 3.5 is a lot compared to 1.3 (the historical swing) and both are within typical poll margins of error. Not sure why either side is trying to paint this election out like it's a done deal.
Not sure where you're getting "3.5" from either; this isn't a popular vote.
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Benny - get over it and get yo marchin shoes on. Obama is done.
Honkys for Herman!!!! im voting for the real black guy who can get it done. Herman!!!!
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Right, not disagreeing with that, I'm just saying 3.5 is a lot compared to 1.3 (the historical swing) and both are within typical poll margins of error. Not sure why either side is trying to paint this election out like it's a done deal.
Not sure where you're getting "3.5" from either; this isn't a popular vote.
obama is getting destroyed in the swing states and we are likely to have the 2000 Electoral college map this time.
In 2008 - Obama had every possible advantage going, none of which he has now.
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A shift of 3.5% is also pretty big. I assume you mean 3.5% of the 2008 popular vote goes away from Obama and towards whoever runs for the GOP. A shift that size would reverse or deadlock the popular vote results in five of the last six elections.
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A shift of 3.5% is also pretty big. I assume you mean 3.5% of the 2008 popular vote goes away from Obama and towards whoever runs for the GOP. A shift that size would reverse or deadlock the popular vote results in five of the last six elections.
Or people stay home that voted for him last time. ;)
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At least he isn't married to a sasquatch.... ::)
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N.J. Gov. Chris Christie can't douse buzz over possible presidential bid
Michael Finnegan | McClatchy-Tribune News Service
September 28, 2011 06:31:14 AM
LOS ANGELES — With speculation swirling anew about whether he intends to join the field of Republican presidential candidates, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie referred a crowd in California on Tuesday to a string of his previous comments on the matter, strung together in a Web video.
The video, on the Politico website, represented his "answers back to back to back together on the question of running for the presidency," he told hundreds of Republicans gathered at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley - several of whom asked him to run.
Among the responses on the video: "I'm 100 percent certain I'm not going to run," "I don't want to run" and "I don't feel ready in my heart to be president."
Despite the demurrals, the latest surge of Christie-mania - particularly among some party donors anxious for new options - has only raised Christie's national profile and enhanced his draw on the campaign money circuit. He's scooping up checks for the New Jersey Republican Party this week at events in Beverly Hills, Santa Ana, Silicon Valley, Missouri and Louisiana.
So it came as little surprise that Christie added another dash of fuel to the talk by taking a shot at Texas Gov. Rick Perry, a leading Republican contender for president.
Responding to a question from the audience, Christie said he opposed laws that allow the children of illegal immigrants to pay lower in-state tuition at public colleges. Perry, who has taken heat from rivals for approving such a law in Texas, has said critics of the policy have no heart.
"From my perspective, that is not a heartless position," Christie said. "That is a common-sense position."
In a half-hour speech paying tribute to Reagan, Christie also took swipes at President Barack Obama, saying the Democratic incumbent was trying to "divide our nation to achieve re-election."
"This is not a leadership style," Christie said, referring to the president's proposal to raise taxes on high-income earners. "This is a re-election strategy - telling those who are scared and struggling that the only way their lives can get better is to diminish the success of others ... insisting that we must tax and take and demonize those who have already achieved the American dream."
"That may turn out to be a good re-election strategy, Mr. President, but it is a demoralizing message for America," Christie said. The crowd burst into applause.
While saying Obama lacked "the courage to lead," Christie was more mild in his implied criticism of fellow Republicans who control the House of Representatives.
"We watch a Congress at war with itself because they're unwilling to leave campaign-style politics at the Capitol's door," he said. "The result is a debt ceiling limitation debate that made our democracy appear as if we could no longer effectively govern ourselves."
Rumors on Christie's potential presidential run were stoked earlier in the day in a National Review report that Thomas Kean, a former New Jersey governor, said Christie was giving a lot of thought to appeals "from major figures around the country."
"I think the odds are a lot better now than they were a couple weeks ago," Kean said.
During questioning, the subject of a run was raised by three people in the Reagan Library audience. One woman got a standing ovation after telling him, "I really implore you as a citizen of this country to please, sir, reconsider."
"Your country needs you," she said.
Christie joked that only "a crazy egomaniac" would see such appeals as a burden.
"It's extraordinarily flattering," he said. "But by the same token, that heartfelt message you gave me is also not a reason for me to do it. That reason has to reside inside me."
Michael Finnegan writes for the Los Angeles Times. Visit the Los Angeles Times at www.latimes.com.
Like all libs, Repping20 and Benny knows the dems haven't a chance to run on actual issues or their records so what's left? Call the repubs names. LOL.
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Regarding Obama, I never have seen a group of people so obsessed over him as Republicans have been for the past three years. I have seen the Chain Mails, the Republican Blog sites, the Republican News sites and its nothing but Obama.
Why don`t they have anything positive to say about themselves? Why don`t they laud any of their accomplishments (they don`t exist).
It is ridiculous. Perhaps I will just post the daily stream of Chain Mails I see just to demonstrate how absurd and obsessive it really has gotten.
Obama really owns their minds and a lot of it is for no reason as they either falsely attribute things that he simply did not do or they don`t understand what really is going on, or their very own party is directly responsible yet still, Obama somehow did it.
Its bordering on lunacy at this point.
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Regarding Obama, I never have seen a group of people so obsessed over him as Republicans have been for the past three years. I have seen the Chain Mails, the Republican Blog sites, the Republican News sites and its nothing but Obama.
Why don`t they have anything positive to say about themselves? Why don`t they laud any of their accomplishments (they don`t exist).
It is ridiculous. Perhaps I will just post the daily stream of Chain Mails I see just to demonstrate how absurd and obsessive it really has gotten.
Obama really owns their minds and a lot of it is for no reason as they either falsely attribute things that he simply did not do or they don`t understand what really is going on, or their very own party is directly responsible yet still, Obama somehow did it.
Its bordering on lunacy at this point.
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Or Conrad Murray/Casey Anthony 2012
lol
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Regarding Obama, I never have seen a group of people so obsessed over him as Republicans have been for the past three years. I have seen the Chain Mails, the Republican Blog sites, the Republican News sites and its nothing but Obama.
Why don`t they have anything positive to say about themselves? Why don`t they laud any of their accomplishments (they don`t exist).
It is ridiculous. Perhaps I will just post the daily stream of Chain Mails I see just to demonstrate how absurd and obsessive it really has gotten.
Obama really owns their minds and a lot of it is for no reason as they either falsely attribute things that he simply did not do or they don`t understand what really is going on, or their very own party is directly responsible yet still, Obama somehow did it.
Its bordering on lunacy at this point.
The thing you don't understand is that fact Republicans don't have to say anything they are going to do or what they want to do because Obama has shot all of their plans down. Not wanting to compromise on the issues.
Now, they are just sitting back and watching the Obama train wreck as it happens. They don't need to help him anymore he is the master of his own demise.
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Regarding Obama, I never have seen a group of people so obsessed over him as Republicans have been for the past three years. I have seen the Chain Mails, the Republican Blog sites, the Republican News sites and its nothing but Obama.
Why don`t they have anything positive to say about themselves? Why don`t they laud any of their accomplishments (they don`t exist).
It is ridiculous. Perhaps I will just post the daily stream of Chain Mails I see just to demonstrate how absurd and obsessive it really has gotten.
Obama really owns their minds and a lot of it is for no reason as they either falsely attribute things that he simply did not do or they don`t understand what really is going on, or their very own party is directly responsible yet still, Obama somehow did it.
Its bordering on lunacy at this point.
Apparently you have a short memory. Try 2001 to 2009 and the Dems' obsession with Bush.
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Obama is not going to be on the ticket at this rate. Forbes Magazine blows many lids off the F&F scandal and obama will be lucky to avoid jail along with Holder.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2011/09/28/fast-and-furious-just-might-be-president-obamas-watergate
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Regarding Obama, I never have seen a group of people so obsessed over him as Republicans have been for the past three years. I have seen the Chain Mails, the Republican Blog sites, the Republican News sites and its nothing but Obama.
Exactly. I posted about this in another thread. The GOP got all butt-hurt after 2008, giving us the deadlock we have today where nobody from either party can get anything done.
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Exactly. I posted about this in another thread. The GOP got all butt-hurt after 2008, giving us the deadlock we have today where nobody from either party can get anything done.
LMFAO!!!!!
Are you fucking joking?
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LMFAO!!!!!
Are you fucking joking?
TA is 100% correct, Obama seriously owns your fragile, ignorant, sensitive-tit mind. Just look at your post history, every single post (not an exaggeration; every post) is about him. We do have a politics board but for some reason you come onto a bodybuilding forum of all places and shat out your banal, repetitive, party-line drivel on a daily, nay hourly, basis. Regardless of what specific issue you are posting about, you engage in no interesting discussion, present no interesting or relevant arguments, and are almost universally considered a terrible poster and waste of Ron's bandwidth by Getbig dems, repubs, centrists, Dorian fans, and Ronnie fans alike. I'm not even a registered democrat and I hope Obama wins in a landslide just to agitate genetic dead ends like you into a merciful suicide event.
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I guess you guys forget that when Obama and the dems had full control of the govt for 2 years they did anything they wanted included the $1 Trillion Stim Bill, obamaCare, Dodd Frank, EPA regulating carbon, 27 commie czars, and pushed crazy law after crazy law, tried doing cap n trade, etc.
The economy is drastically worse off as a result and you wonder why people are pissed off?
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Exactly. I posted about this in another thread. The GOP got all butt-hurt after 2008, giving us the deadlock we have today where nobody from either party can get anything done.
And how did they get the ability to cause this "deadlock" in the first place after getting "butt-hurt" in 2008, again?
THEY RETURNED THE FAVOR TO THE DEMS IN 2010!!!
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And how did they get the ability to cause this "deadlock" in the first place after getting "butt-hurt" in 2008, again?
THEY RETURNED THE FAVOR TO THE DEMS IN 2010!!!
See this sort of attitude is exactly the problem. Your primary concern is with retrospectively assessing blame, not with fixing problems. You view "The Dems" as the enemy, a large group of incompetent nincompoops who should be ostracized from society, their political philosophy rejected, and if given the choice would "fix things" by burning Obama posters in effigy and fully supplanting every last iota of their existence in American politics with a unitary conservative utopia. Both parties are equally guilty of this divisive attitude. The sooner it ends, the better off our political system will be.
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See this sort of attitude is exactly the problem. Your primary concern is with retrospectively assessing blame, not with fixing problems. You view "The Dems" as the enemy, a large group of incompetent nincompoops who should be ostracized from society, their political philosophy rejected, and if given the choice would "fix things" by burning Obama posters in effigy and fully supplanting every last iota of their existence in American politics with a unitary conservative utopia. Both parties are equally guilty of this divisive attitude. The sooner it ends, the better off our political system will be.
Maybe that is hard to do when the POTUS is running out everyday calling everyone names and telling their they are basically traitors no?
And please with the sanctimony.
Obama today - TODAY - just approved of a 734 Million dollar loan guaranty to another solar company where Pelosi's relatives are involved. and you wonder why normal people hate this asshole?
And using TA as a barometer of the truth? LMFAO! His only gripe w bama is that he did not go far enough with the crazy shit that went on during the first two years.
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Maybe that is hard to do when the POTUS is running out everyday calling everyone names and telling their they are basically traitors no?
And please with the sanctimony.
Obama today - TODAY - just approved of a 734 Million dollar loan guaranty to another solar company where Pelosi's relatives are involved. and you wonder why normal people hate this asshole?
And using TA as a barometer of the truth? LMFAO! His only gripe w bama is that he did not go far enough with the crazy shit that went on during the first two years.
"Blah blah blah Obama's fault, blah blah blah TA sucks, LMFAO Obama sucks, LMFAO LMFAO etc." Same shit, different toilet, over and over again. The only LMFAO part about this post is that you consider yourself "normal".
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"Blah blah blah Obama's fault, blah blah blah TA sucks, LMFAO Obama sucks, LMFAO LMFAO etc." Same shit, different toilet, over and over again. The only LMFAO part about this post is that you consider yourself "normal".
Solyndra
Fast n Furious
LightSquared
Failed Stim Bill
Failed ObamaCare
UE drastically worse
Exapnded old wars and started new ones
Wall Street cronyism like never before
Geithner/Summers/Bernake
Please do me a favor - and tell me one thing this admn has done to deserve a second term. Just one.
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Solyndra
Fast n Furious
LightSquared
Failed Stim Bill
Failed ObamaCare
UE drastically worse
Exapnded old wars and started new ones
Wall Street cronyism like never before
Geithner/Summers/Bernake
Please do me a favor - and tell me one thing this admn has done to deserve a second term. Just one.
Haha jesus christ dude do you even read what anyone posts or just blindly click quote whenever you see a new post and vomit out whatever vitriolic drivel Rush Limbaugh pulled out of one of his ass-rolls this afternoon? I'm not even a democrat, I'm as moderate as they come. I am criticizing YOU PERSONALLY, not talking politics.
It is really amazing how accurate my reflection of you and people like you is. You really do see the terms "enemy", "opponent" and "Democrat" as synonymous.
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You can attack me all day personally - i dont care - still does not change the fact that those who attack obama are on very strong footing for his horrendous presidency that miraculously makes GWB and CARTER look Rushmore worthy.
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TA is 100% correct, Obama seriously owns your fragile, ignorant, sensitive-tit mind. Just look at your post history, every single post (not an exaggeration; every post) is about him. We do have a politics board but for some reason you come onto a bodybuilding forum of all places and shat out your banal, repetitive, party-line drivel on a daily, nay hourly, basis. Regardless of what specific issue you are posting about, you engage in no interesting discussion, present no interesting or relevant arguments, and are almost universally considered a terrible poster and waste of Ron's bandwidth by Getbig dems, repubs, centrists, Dorian fans, and Ronnie fans alike. I'm not even a registered democrat and I hope Obama wins in a landslide just to agitate genetic dead ends like you into a merciful suicide event.
"Blah blah blah Obama's fault, blah blah blah TA sucks, LMFAO Obama sucks, LMFAO LMFAO etc." Same shit, different toilet, over and over again. The only LMFAO part about this post is that you consider yourself "normal".
BOOM!!! ;)
PEA BRAIN is a crazed racist who suffers from:
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_VHJtgDJ2Y3I/TOqnn4qMHHI/AAAAAAAAFEQ/ElIRp_u6uQs/s1600/obama-derangement-syndrome.jpg)
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Republican 'Bully' Chris Christie Says No 'Reagan' Faithful After 40 Minutes of Fat-Talk
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Solndra / Fast n Furious / LightSquared / UE drastically up / economy far worse / more wars and deaths / crony corporatists all over the WH /
And you guys attack me? LMFAO
Next year Obama is going to get wiped away like Carter, but worse.
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numbers boy scared as hell right now, no real candidate that isn't a joke for republicans, you got the honkey boy perry and flip flopping romney. Then you got Obama our President! Stands up for the working man, wants to raise taxes on the rich and take down the debt and get the middle class back to what it use to be, unionize workers, get a living wage, oh the humanity, how dare people ask for that :o
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numbers boy scared as hell right now, no real candidate that isn't a joke for republicans, you got the honkey boy perry and flip flopping romney. Then you got Obama our President! Stands up for the working man, wants to raise taxes on the rich and take down the debt and get the middle class back to what it use to be, unionize workers, get a living wage, oh the humanity, how dare people ask for that :o
Lmfao. Tell me one thing Obama has done to help the average guy.
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numbers boy scared as hell right now, no real candidate that isn't a joke for republicans, you got the honkey boy perry and flip flopping romney. Then you got Obama our President! Stands up for the working man, wants to raise taxes on the rich and take down the debt and get the middle class back to what it use to be, unionize workers, get a living wage, oh the humanity, how dare people ask for that :o
What's he scared of again? A guy that so far:
- Has 39% approval rating,
- Watched his party get MURDERED last November,
- Is statistically TIED with the "honkey boy" and the "flip flopper" in Ohio
- Who got us downgraded for the first time in American history.
- Only concern is with PUBLIC-SECTOR UNIONS, a mere 7% of the working population (private-sector unions and everyone else are screwed)
- Is bleeding independents and white voters by the truckload
- Is losing Hispanics left and right
- Has been chastised by black voters, for not stepping foot in the black community during his bus tour
- Gave half-a-billion dollars to his "green" jobs cronies, whose businesses went belly-up.
- Whose healthcare debacle is INCREASING premiums, something he swore wouldn't happen
- Who ADMITTED that his stimulus wasn't as "shovel-ready" as he said it would be.
Yep, 333386 is really scared, alright!!
And, it only gets worse:
Obama’s Swing State Blitz Yields Little
President Obama has been campaigning almost non-stop since Labor Day, but his political fortunes have hardly improved. Obama’s September blitz through swing states, backed up with an aggressive media schedule, has apparently yielded little for the embattled incumbent.
A new Quinnipiac University poll shows Obama dragging a 42 percent job-approval rating in Ohio and already evenly matched by Republican frontrunners Rick Perry and Mitt Romney in the all-important Buckeye State, where Obama has campaigned twice in three weeks.
And so it is across the states where Obama has focused his efforts in this first round of campaigning.
In Ohio and neighboring Pennsylvania, 51 percent of voters said Obama didn’t deserve a second term. In Virginia, the lynchpin to Obama’s 2012 strategy, a Roanoke College poll found the president with a 39 percent rating. In North Carolina, the great Obama success story of 2008, a High Point University poll finds the president with a 41 percent job-approval rating.
Obama has succeeded, though, in bucking up base voters and quieting some calls for a primary challenge. Even as he has been crisscrossing swing states making his case to disaffected middle-class moderates, Obama has been making a tightly targeted effort to energize gay activists (including having Lady Gaga on hand for his California fundraising swing and speaking at a banquet for the leading gay political group, the Human Rights Campaign, this weekend) and to show dispirited black political leaders that he shares their outrage over the current state of affairs (“Take off your bedroom slippers…”)
The biggest base play Obama has made, though, has been his proposal for a massive tax increase for top earners. The $1.5 trillion package was a dead letter even with Democratic supermajorities in both houses of Congress, but proposing it again has been a way for Obama to show his good faith with his core supporters. It is an implicit promise about his agenda for a second term, as are Obama’s frequent reminders about the unfinished work and perilous situation of his most significant accomplishment, a national health care law.
(The administration’s decision to drop its opposition to an expedited Supreme Court hearing of the central challenge to the controversial law fits into this strategy, too.)
While this effort -- along with the clarifying effects of panic among his fellow Democrats -- may have helped Obama find a new floor in his national support in the low to mid 40s, disapproval for the president has continued to grow as moderates, uneasy with Obama since his 2009-2010 health push, recoil from his latest proposals for a third stimulus plan and tax increases.
This is the cruelty of political life for a weak incumbent: Base voters require increasing reassurance to prevent a catastrophe, but those reassurances only push moderates and independents farther out of reach.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/28/obamas-swing-state-blitz-yields-little/
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Apparently you have a short memory. Try 2001 to 2009 and the Dems' obsession with Bush.
exactly. the dem media had a field day with bush. i would like to see the reports of negative news on bush compared to obama. the country was nowhere near as bad of shape but the media hated bush. i really don;t understand it either. they made fun of his speaking but the man has a handicap where he sees thing he reads backwards....kind of cruel wasn;t it?
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numbers boy scared as hell right now, no real candidate that isn't a joke for republicans, you got the honkey boy perry and flip flopping romney. Then you got Obama our President! Stands up for the working man, wants to raise taxes on the rich and take down the debt and get the middle class back to what it use to be, unionize workers, get a living wage, oh the humanity, how dare people ask for that :o
Yep, PEA BRAIN and his boot-licking house slave TOBEY have melted down throughout this thread. ;D
Attempting to derail things by posting articles that have nothing to do with the original subject(Christie), demanding others to explain Obama's agenda as if they cannot do their own research, etc. PATHETIC.
FATSO won't run, Rick Perry and Williard Romney will continue to bludgeon each other, and the only hope for GOP salvation lies in the eventual entry into the fray of the one, the only...SARAH PALIN! :o ::)
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Madoff / Vandersloot could beat Obama at this point, who is probably going to resign in scandal and disgrace anyway.
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Madoff / Vandersloot could beat Obama at this point, who is probably going to resign in scandal and disgrace anyway.
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Between LightSquared, Solyndra, Fast n Furious, the economy, MenegeleCare that is about to be ended, etc - he is going to be told not to run again.
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Between LightSquared, Solyndra, Fast n Furious, the economy, MenegeleCare that is about to be ended, etc - he is going to be told not to run again.
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Yep, PEA BRAIN and his boot-licking house slave TOBEY have melted down throughout this thread. ;D
Attempting to derail things by posting articles that have nothing to do with the original subject(Christie), demanding others to explain Obama's agenda as if they cannot do their own research, etc. PATHETIC.
FATSO won't run, Rick Perry and Williard Romney will continue to bludgeon each other, and the only hope for GOP salvation lies in the eventual entry into the fray of the one, the only...SARAH PALIN! :o ::)
Wrong again, O goofy one. Neither 333386 nor I need anyone to explain why Obama boneheaded agenda SUCKS!! It’s self-explanatory. Stevie Wonder can see it. Unfortunately, a blithering crackpot like you can’t.
You apparently don't get it. The same thing happened with Perry. People were begging him to join two months ago. Now, he's in. If Christie joins the fray, some will beg for someone else. It's part of the game.
I’m not concerned about Chris Christie. If he runs, he runs; if he doesn’t, he doesn’t (though he’s said repeatedly that he will not) Regardless of who wins the GOP nomination, Obama is cruising to getting the taste slapped out of his mouth, something that repeatedly happens to YOU, when you have the stones to actually show up here without the mods moving your threads here from G&O.
Nobody gave Herman Cain a change. Now, he's polling within a few points of Obama. That's a testament of two things: Cain surging and Obama continuing to TANK!!
The mere fact that you're running your mouth about Palin shows that your poster boy is WILTING. You have to pray that the GOP picks a dud, because Obama's sorry record. You thought Obama was a lock 5 months ago; now, you’re scrambling and sweating, hoping the GOP ends up with what you and other liberals think is the only Republican Obama can beat, with his sorry record.
As the weeks go by, the question changes from "Can any of the GOP field beat Obama?" to "WHICH ONE will beat Obama"?
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;D
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numbers boy scared as hell right now, no real candidate that isn't a joke for republicans, you got the honkey boy perry and flip flopping romney. Then you got Obama our President! Stands up for the working man, wants to raise taxes on the rich and take down the debt and get the middle class back to what it use to be, unionize workers, get a living wage, oh the humanity, how dare people ask for that :o
thats why Rick Perry will have a hard time winning the nomination..he's too humane as well....Republicans don't like humanity
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Yep, PEA BRAIN and his boot-licking house slave TOBEY have melted down throughout this thread. ;D
Attempting to derail things by posting articles that have nothing to do with the original subject(Christie), demanding others to explain Obama's agenda as if they cannot do their own research, etc. PATHETIC.
FATSO won't run, Rick Perry and Williard Romney will continue to bludgeon each other, and the only hope for GOP salvation lies in the eventual entry into the fray of the one, the only...SARAH PALIN! :o ::)
Sarah the Idiot won't run
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I hope this helps
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This too.
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2012 Presidential Matchups : Obama 44%, Christie 43%
Rasmussen Reports ^ | SEPTEMBER 29, 2011 | Rasmussen Reports
Posted on Friday, September 30, 2011 11:46:49 AM by RobinMasters
Few expect him to run, but New Jersey Governor Chris Christie is essentially even with President Barack Obama in an early look at a hypothetical Election 2012 matchup.
A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely U.S. Voters shows that Obama earns 44% support in the matchup, while Christie attracts 43%. Six percent (6%) prefer a third option, and eight percent (8%) are undecided. These numbers place Christie in the same league as other top GOP hopefuls within single digits of Obama including former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, Texas Governor Rick Perry and businessman Herman Cain. (To see survey question wording, click here.)
However, just 26% believe the first-term governor is likely to run for the White House, a figure that includes only five percent (5%) who think he is Very Likely to run. Twenty percent (20%) of all voters think Christie should run for the White House, but nearly twice as many (37%) say he should not.
Among Republicans, 32% say he should run, 25% hold the opposite view, and 43% are not sure. Just 31% of GOP voters believe he is even somewhat likely to run, while 44% see a Christie campaign as unlikely.
(Excerpt) Read more at rasmussenreports.com ...
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Dude is not even running yet and they are tied.
2012 - sending the communists back to hell where they belong.
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hello racist
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obama 44, christie 43.
So despite christie being unknown on many divisive issues... his initial BEST is essentially tied with obama?
yikes. I bet you put HILARY vs Obama and it's Clinton 58%, Obama 35% with the rest too busy laughing to answer the Q.
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What's he scared of again? A guy that so far:
- Has 39% approval rating,
- Watched his party get MURDERED last November,
- Is statistically TIED with the "honkey boy" and the "flip flopper" in Ohio
- Who got us downgraded for the first time in American history.
- Only concern is with PUBLIC-SECTOR UNIONS, a mere 7% of the working population (private-sector unions and everyone else are screwed)
- Is bleeding independents and white voters by the truckload
- Is losing Hispanics left and right
- Has been chastised by black voters, for not stepping foot in the black community during his bus tour
- Gave half-a-billion dollars to his "green" jobs cronies, whose businesses went belly-up.
- Whose healthcare debacle is INCREASING premiums, something he swore wouldn't happen
- Who ADMITTED that his stimulus wasn't as "shovel-ready" as he said it would be.
Yep, 333386 is really scared, alright!!
You forgot to mention his party getting soundly beaten in a safe Democrat district and absolutely destroyed in a swing district of a swing state last month.
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You forgot to mention his party getting soundly beaten in a safe Democrat district and absolutely destroyed in a swing district of a swing state last month.
I didn't forget. I was just being merciful.
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I didn't forget. I was just being merciful.
;D
Obama is not going to be on the ticket.
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Obama is not going to be on the ticket.
I'd love to see him get primaried. But, I'll settle for the GOP winner, whipping his backside in 2012.
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I love seeing the anti-Obama "repubs" defending candidates like Christie - with a dozen liberal positions - because they like his SPEAKING STYLE.
it's 08 Obama all over again. I can assure you, if you put another face on those exact same chrstie positions, 33 is trashing the dude all day.
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I love seeing the anti-Obama "repubs" defending candidates like Christie - with a dozen liberal positions - because they like his SPEAKING STYLE.
it's 08 Obama all over again. I can assure you, if you put another face on those exact same chrstie positions, 33 is trashing the dude all day.
Ummm....Christie AIN'T A CANDIDATE. Who's defending someone, not even in the race?
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TA is 100% correct, Obama seriously owns your fragile, ignorant, sensitive-tit mind. Just look at your post history, every single post (not an exaggeration; every post) is about him. We do have a politics board but for some reason you come onto a bodybuilding forum of all places and shat out your banal, repetitive, party-line drivel on a daily, nay hourly, basis. Regardless of what specific issue you are posting about, you engage in no interesting discussion, present no interesting or relevant arguments, and are almost universally considered a terrible poster and waste of Ron's bandwidth by Getbig dems, repubs, centrists, Dorian fans, and Ronnie fans alike. I'm not even a registered democrat and I hope Obama wins in a landslide just to agitate genetic dead ends like you into a merciful suicide event.
Great post. He will be imploding over this for days.
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Ummm....Christie AIN'T A CANDIDATE. Who's defending someone, not even in the race?
agreed, but we're seeing the same pattern around him.
both the left and right media give him 2 weeks of a handjob with 'will he run?'
his ego gets to be too much.
Hell, the guy has been ignoring NJ because he's been meeting fundraisers in Iowa.
he's certainly where perry was a month ago.
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agreed, but we're seeing the same pattern around him.
both the left and right media give him 2 weeks of a handjob with 'will he run?'
his ego gets to be too much.
Hell, the guy has been ignoring NJ because he's been meeting fundraisers in Iowa.
he's certainly where perry was a month ago.
Perry said he was considering it, before making his official announcement. Christie has said "NO!" time and time again.
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Perry said he was considering it, before making his official announcement. Christie has said "NO!" time and time again.
Sept 29, 2011:
ATON ROUGE — Gov. Chris Christie is seriously rethinking his months of denials and may launch a campaign for the White House after all, a source close to the governor said tonight.
In the last week, Christie has been swayed away from his earlier refusals to run by an aggressive draft effort from a cadre of Republicans and donors unhappy with the GOP field, said the source, who was not authorized to speak publicly and requested anonymity.
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/09/chris_christie_seriously_consi.html
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Sept 29, 2011:
ATON ROUGE — Gov. Chris Christie is seriously rethinking his months of denials and may launch a campaign for the White House after all, a source close to the governor said tonight.
In the last week, Christie has been swayed away from his earlier refusals to run by an aggressive draft effort from a cadre of Republicans and donors unhappy with the GOP field, said the source, who was not authorized to speak publicly and requested anonymity.
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/09/chris_christie_seriously_consi.html
Christie HIMSELF has said "NO!", and until he gets behind a podium and officially declares himself as a candidate, HE AIN'T RUNNING (as far as I'm concerned).
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Christie HIMSELF has said "NO!", and until he gets behind a podium and officially declares himself as a candidate, HE AIN'T RUNNING (as far as I'm concerned).
Correct. For the last two years.
BUT
The recent pattern shows that might be changing. Check out the headlines from Sept 27 to today.
http://www.politico.com/2012-election/chris-christie/index.html
His camp leaks that he's considering. Lots of $ suddenly flowing to him. Suddenly he gives a speech on "American exceptionalism"? LMAO... he goes from being the smart fiscal governor, to Rudy speaking to the world on American exceptionalism? lol.
Just look at the headlines from politico on him... what he's done for the last week. Signs are pointing to it.
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it's so funny to see the corporations ants squirm as they try to find another person to please their bosses, but they can't seem to find them, oh what will the corporations do! Will they actually have to pay people a decent wage, oh noooo :-\
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it's so funny to see the corporations ants squirm as they try to find another person to please their bosses, but they can't seem to find them, oh what will the corporations do! Will they actually have to pay people a decent wage, oh noooo :-\
You mean corporations like GE, Solyndra, SEIU, NEA?
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You mean corporations like GE, Solyndra, SEIU, NEA?
don't forget MuscleTech....your favorite
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don't forget MuscleTech....your favorite