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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: illwill on September 28, 2011, 08:13:29 PM
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Is there anyway to make the shin pumps stop? I don't mind pumps in the gym but walking is almost unbearable. Jeez lol
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ok,
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I take it you've never had them?
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I remeber my first cycle I was eating really good thai by the handful. I would go for distance runs and my calfs and shins would cramp up so bad. I would run about 3 miles everyday I was getting ready for football the next year. The first half mile would go okay then I would cramp up so bad. I would walk a little then run a little. By the time summer was over my calf muscles were almost double the size! I really think that constant pump contributed to them building up so fast. My 40 time was lowerd by .3 seconds. I had explosive speed and power going into that season. Don't worry about the pumps!
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You hate the tren lower back pumps eh? :)
When I was on it, I could not freakin wait til my cycle was over...
I tell you, it made squating so freakin painful..it felt like you did dealifts the whole damn time...thats how painful those backpumps were from tren!
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If its your shins...it could also be comartment syndrome and not shin splints
Tren exhasbertated my shin splints as well to where walking 20 feet was very painful...when I went to a specialist, I found out it wasnt shin splints but compartment syndrome which is more sever than shin splints
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I remeber my first cycle I was eating really good thai by the handful. I would go for distance runs and my calfs and shins would cramp up so bad. I would run about 3 miles everyday I was getting ready for football the next year. The first half mile would go okay then I would cramp up so bad. I would walk a little then run a little. By the time summer was over my calf muscles were almost double the size! I really think that constant pump contributed to them building up so fast. My 40 time was lowerd by .3 seconds. I had explosive speed and power going into that season. Don't worry about the pumps!
That's awesome! Thanks
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If its your shins...it could also be comartment syndrome and not shin splints
Tren exhasbertated my shin splints as well to where walking 20 feet was very painful...when I went to a specialist, I found out it wasnt shin splints but compartment syndrome which is more sever than shin splints
Did you stop your cycle or work through it?
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Go to a specialist and make sure you do not have compartment syndrome.
This is the surgery I had done:
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Did you stop your cycle or work through it?
I worked through the pain..buit I tell you...I couldnt freakin wait till my damn cycle was over!
And this was just my second week on tren!
But I loved the size and strength it gace me! But it was one of those cycles where I prayed to God that I made it through....I hated it but loved it
How long are you into the tren cycle? What are you stacking it with?
Im surprised it is just affecting your shins...it affected my lower back...it was actually my kidneys...if youy feel pain in your lower back..understand that it is not your lower back but your kidneys, ok?
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I worked through the pain..buit I tell you...I couldnt freakin wait till my damn cycle was over!
And this was just my second week on tren!
But I loved the size and strength it gace me! But it was one of those cycles where I prayed to God that I made it through....I hated it but loved it
How long are you into the tren cycle? What are you stacking it with?
Im surprised it is just affecting your shins...it affected my lower back...it was actually my kidneys...if youy feel pain in your lower back..understand that it is not your lower back but your kidneys, ok?
2nd week in. I'm stacking it with a little EQ and Test P. The pumps always happen during my past tren cycles but I normally just stopped any cardio AND limited my walking. But this time around I'm riding the train to and from work which requires walking to the train station and then to the office.
Don't get me wrong, I am getting the pumps in my forearms, my lower back (kidney) too but those I can deal with. It's just by the time I get to the office i'm in pain lol and probably look crazy to my co-workers.
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2nd week in. I'm stacking it with a little EQ and Test P. The pumps always happen during my past tren cycles but I normally just stopped any cardio AND limited my walking. But this time around I'm riding the train to and from work which requires walking to the train station and then to the office.
Don't get me wrong, I am getting the pumps in my forearms, my lower back (kidney) too but those I can deal with. It's just by the time I get to the office i'm in pain lol and probably look crazy to my co-workers.
Trust me, I understand the pqain you feel.
Im glad that you dont have to walk that much.
At times, I had to wait till the pumps in my shins disappated because they hurt that much..it felt like a balloon about to burst
Shit...damn EQ is awesome! I did an EQ alone cycle...felt like I could run forever!
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Ive had this since forever... comes and goes. Its mostly annoying rather than "health threatening" imo.
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Ive had this since forever... comes and goes. Its mostly annoying rather than "health threatening" imo.
Exactly! Now my girl wants me to walk with her for "diabetes awareness" and I'm gonna look like a jerk off in pain & sweating :-D I guess I was hoping someone would say "take some advil" or "taurine" or "drink more water" ah well ..... The ends justify the means I suppose
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Exactly! Now my girl wants me to walk with her for "diabetes awareness" and I'm gonna look like a jerk off in pain & sweating :-D I guess I was hoping someone would say "take some advil" or "taurine" or "drink more water" ah well ..... The ends justify the means I suppose
None of those remedies you listed worked for me....NONE!!
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legit trenbolona will result in the following ,, be sure you have legit,,
enormous strength ,, and i mean it ENORMOUS strength
imediate fat burning effect like eca but with out the high in the sky weak feeling eca give you in the long run ,, in other word no stringy and no stiffy feeling,, much beter than eca for fat burninng
immediate increase in lean muscle ,, first through hardening and densing of the physiqe you have ,,the fibers will get closer and then will start seperating due to the water going into the muscle and decreasing on the outside of the muscle between skin and muscle ,,
there will be few day confusion where you are not sure what what ,, after 7 days you will know you are a walking invinsible bodybuild,, you will need to start 10% not fat...if you start fat it will all take longer time as in 3-4 months...remember eveyrthing happen in bodybuild because we are already starting lean to some degree as in 10% zone
legit trenbolona ace will be golden yellowish ,, it can be either more yelowish or more golden depending on oxidation and other factors,,but the color is a combo between gold and yellow sometime more yellow sometime more gold but it will have the combo of golden yelow pee to it
legit trenbolona ace will make a fatter fella sweat much more than a lean fella,, lean fella will not sweat as much ,,
legit trenbolona ace will let you eat anything you like and get you from point a to point b ,, no matter how your diet is as long as enough calorie and protien and carb you will get shreded at the end process and reserve all muscle while increasing your lean muscle becaue when you lose fat and dont lose weight...or lose very little weight.....you increased your lean muscle,, it will be seen in the seperation of the muscle and the attachment of the skin to the muscle as in getting the muscle shape ,, skin and muscle become one,, veins will then from day 3 will be popping out more an dmore every single day to places you neevr seen them ,, you will have veins coming theough your body hair even if you are a chimpanzee you will see veins all over with full bodily hair,, you use veet on your body? you will be amazed how ripped you are,, wait with the veet few weeks or couple months so you get a big shock,, put tann on you and you are like a magazine fella in real life face to face ,,
legit trenbolona ace get female to take notice of you ,, suddenly females who would not touch bodybuild...will be attrackted,, if you have wife who dont give you sex or sex is minimal,, while using trenbolona you will see her approching you for sex and wanting to fuck you ,, like when you see a hot girl with perky tits...she will see you like the boy toys she and her friends were all gigling about back in highschool,, she will have sex with you much more and will intitiate it ,, lean fella that hold muscle and get to look ripped but maintain thickness get the most sex from females,, its not up to debate with me this is part of legt trenbolona facts
legit trenbolona will give you a cough spiiting saliva cough if you hit a vessle ,, it will come fast and go within 3-5 min whiel you be coughin and spitting saliva all over the toilet cursing everyone around you actualy you wont be able to talk but after 3 min you will lol it is nothing and common trenbolona hit the vessle reaction made by the tren easter which is ace
legit trenbolona will cause you to itch and get flaky skin ,, some do some dont ,, most do but again its only when hit vessle ...thre actual flaky skin will be for serious bodybuildthat been on tren for long time and on hormones in general for long time
legit trenbolona wil give you insomina and at time paranoia that everyone is after you ,, sometime even bad dreams,, its part of it ,, legit trenbolona is a known insomina causer and you need to know how to control it and sleep even with insomnia ,, you can get tired and regulate your sleep or change work schedule or fit it in no problam ,, whern bodybuild want somethign bodybuild get it
legit trenbolona is the only drug that can not be replaced in bodybuild ,, especialy competetive bodybuild,, but in bodybuild in general you will not be able to get in condition and eat like normal fella UNLESS you are on legit trenbolona ,, even if yuo eat clean legit trenbolona condition will not be there unless you are on trenbolona ,, you will lose lean muscle when not on trenbolona no matter what product you are on ,, even if you use gh and insulina if yuo are not on trenbolona you will lose lean muscle that will not be noticable to begin with but later on it will when tru to get to same condition and see you cant because you missing those 5-7 lb of quality muscle,,
bible index
gh15 approved
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legit trenbolona will result in the following ,, be sure you have legit,,
enormous strength ,, and i mean it ENORMOUS strength
imediate fat burning effect like eca but with out the high in the sky weak feeling eca give you in the long run ,, in other word no stringy and no stiffy feeling,, much beter than eca for fat burninng
immediate increase in lean muscle ,, first through hardening and densing of the physiqe you have ,,the fibers will get closer and then will start seperating due to the water going into the muscle and decreasing on the outside of the muscle between skin and muscle ,,
there will be few day confusion where you are not sure what what ,, after 7 days you will know you are a walking invinsible bodybuild,, you will need to start 10% not fat...if you start fat it will all take longer time as in 3-4 months...remember eveyrthing happen in bodybuild because we are already starting lean to some degree as in 10% zone
legit trenbolona ace will be golden yellowish ,, it can be either more yelowish or more golden depending on oxidation and other factors,,but the color is a combo between gold and yellow sometime more yellow sometime more gold but it will have the combo of golden yelow pee to it
legit trenbolona ace will make a fatter fella sweat much more than a lean fella,, lean fella will not sweat as much ,,
legit trenbolona ace will let you eat anything you like and get you from point a to point b ,, no matter how your diet is as long as enough calorie and protien and carb you will get shreded at the end process and reserve all muscle while increasing your lean muscle becaue when you lose fat and dont lose weight...or lose very little weight.....you increased your lean muscle,, it will be seen in the seperation of the muscle and the attachment of the skin to the muscle as in getting the muscle shape ,, skin and muscle become one,, veins will then from day 3 will be popping out more an dmore every single day to places you neevr seen them ,, you will have veins coming theough your body hair even if you are a chimpanzee you will see veins all over with full bodily hair,, you use veet on your body? you will be amazed how ripped you are,, wait with the veet few weeks or couple months so you get a big shock,, put tann on you and you are like a magazine fella in real life face to face ,,
legit trenbolona ace get female to take notice of you ,, suddenly females who would not touch bodybuild...will be attrackted,, if you have wife who dont give you sex or sex is minimal,, while using trenbolona you will see her approching you for sex and wanting to fuck you ,, like when you see a hot girl with perky tits...she will see you like the boy toys she and her friends were all gigling about back in highschool,, she will have sex with you much more and will intitiate it ,, lean fella that hold muscle and get to look ripped but maintain thickness get the most sex from females,, its not up to debate with me this is part of legt trenbolona facts
legit trenbolona will give you a cough spiiting saliva cough if you hit a vessle ,, it will come fast and go within 3-5 min whiel you be coughin and spitting saliva all over the toilet cursing everyone around you actualy you wont be able to talk but after 3 min you will lol it is nothing and common trenbolona hit the vessle reaction made by the tren easter which is ace
legit trenbolona will cause you to itch and get flaky skin ,, some do some dont ,, most do but again its only when hit vessle ...thre actual flaky skin will be for serious bodybuildthat been on tren for long time and on hormones in general for long time
legit trenbolona wil give you insomina and at time paranoia that everyone is after you ,, sometime even bad dreams,, its part of it ,, legit trenbolona is a known insomina causer and you need to know how to control it and sleep even with insomnia ,, you can get tired and regulate your sleep or change work schedule or fit it in no problam ,, whern bodybuild want somethign bodybuild get it
legit trenbolona is the only drug that can not be replaced in bodybuild ,, especialy competetive bodybuild,, but in bodybuild in general you will not be able to get in condition and eat like normal fella UNLESS you are on legit trenbolona ,, even if yuo eat clean legit trenbolona condition will not be there unless you are on trenbolona ,, you will lose lean muscle when not on trenbolona no matter what product you are on ,, even if you use gh and insulina if yuo are not on trenbolona you will lose lean muscle that will not be noticable to begin with but later on it will when tru to get to same condition and see you cant because you missing those 5-7 lb of quality muscle,,
bible index
gh15 approved
You are so right! I forgot to mention the sweats and the acne on my chest , shoulders, back (mine turned into little pussie boils). Showering didnt seem to help but they stopped a few weeks after my cycle.
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WOW spot on, i cough like a mofo everytime I hit the vessel between the 30 to 90seconds I feel like im going to die I promise myself I will never touch tren again, then the next day i load up 100mg and jam it in lol.
Nightmares are a bitch almost lifelike, working 11hour days and not being able to sleep is a real killer.
Gh15 realistically how long can one stay on trenbolone 100mg EOD before taking a break?
legit trenbolona will result in the following ,, be sure you have legit,,
enormous strength ,, and i mean it ENORMOUS strength
imediate fat burning effect like eca but with out the high in the sky weak feeling eca give you in the long run ,, in other word no stringy and no stiffy feeling,, much beter than eca for fat burninng
immediate increase in lean muscle ,, first through hardening and densing of the physiqe you have ,,the fibers will get closer and then will start seperating due to the water going into the muscle and decreasing on the outside of the muscle between skin and muscle ,,
there will be few day confusion where you are not sure what what ,, after 7 days you will know you are a walking invinsible bodybuild,, you will need to start 10% not fat...if you start fat it will all take longer time as in 3-4 months...remember eveyrthing happen in bodybuild because we are already starting lean to some degree as in 10% zone
legit trenbolona ace will be golden yellowish ,, it can be either more yelowish or more golden depending on oxidation and other factors,,but the color is a combo between gold and yellow sometime more yellow sometime more gold but it will have the combo of golden yelow pee to it
legit trenbolona ace will make a fatter fella sweat much more than a lean fella,, lean fella will not sweat as much ,,
legit trenbolona ace will let you eat anything you like and get you from point a to point b ,, no matter how your diet is as long as enough calorie and protien and carb you will get shreded at the end process and reserve all muscle while increasing your lean muscle becaue when you lose fat and dont lose weight...or lose very little weight.....you increased your lean muscle,, it will be seen in the seperation of the muscle and the attachment of the skin to the muscle as in getting the muscle shape ,, skin and muscle become one,, veins will then from day 3 will be popping out more an dmore every single day to places you neevr seen them ,, you will have veins coming theough your body hair even if you are a chimpanzee you will see veins all over with full bodily hair,, you use veet on your body? you will be amazed how ripped you are,, wait with the veet few weeks or couple months so you get a big shock,, put tann on you and you are like a magazine fella in real life face to face ,,
legit trenbolona ace get female to take notice of you ,, suddenly females who would not touch bodybuild...will be attrackted,, if you have wife who dont give you sex or sex is minimal,, while using trenbolona you will see her approching you for sex and wanting to fuck you ,, like when you see a hot girl with perky tits...she will see you like the boy toys she and her friends were all gigling about back in highschool,, she will have sex with you much more and will intitiate it ,, lean fella that hold muscle and get to look ripped but maintain thickness get the most sex from females,, its not up to debate with me this is part of legt trenbolona facts
legit trenbolona will give you a cough spiiting saliva cough if you hit a vessle ,, it will come fast and go within 3-5 min whiel you be coughin and spitting saliva all over the toilet cursing everyone around you actualy you wont be able to talk but after 3 min you will lol it is nothing and common trenbolona hit the vessle reaction made by the tren easter which is ace
legit trenbolona will cause you to itch and get flaky skin ,, some do some dont ,, most do but again its only when hit vessle ...thre actual flaky skin will be for serious bodybuildthat been on tren for long time and on hormones in general for long time
legit trenbolona wil give you insomina and at time paranoia that everyone is after you ,, sometime even bad dreams,, its part of it ,, legit trenbolona is a known insomina causer and you need to know how to control it and sleep even with insomnia ,, you can get tired and regulate your sleep or change work schedule or fit it in no problam ,, whern bodybuild want somethign bodybuild get it
legit trenbolona is the only drug that can not be replaced in bodybuild ,, especialy competetive bodybuild,, but in bodybuild in general you will not be able to get in condition and eat like normal fella UNLESS you are on legit trenbolona ,, even if yuo eat clean legit trenbolona condition will not be there unless you are on trenbolona ,, you will lose lean muscle when not on trenbolona no matter what product you are on ,, even if you use gh and insulina if yuo are not on trenbolona you will lose lean muscle that will not be noticable to begin with but later on it will when tru to get to same condition and see you cant because you missing those 5-7 lb of quality muscle,,
bible index
gh15 approved
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most profesionals stay months on it ,, 5-6 months ,, no sides what soe ever,, the kidny damage is balonie,, kidny damage come from diuretic abuse ,, alcoholl abuseeee,, narcotics abuseeee,, and insulina abuse ,, and for you rkidny to fail you really really have to do it all together for sometime and really have no god ,, trenbolona usage directly NEVER result in kidny problem ,, NEVER EVER ,, it is a rumor who started on stupid steroid boarding and wher eever else,, feellas here its injected to cattle so they think its something bad....its rumors and balonie ,, everyone se in their eyes some poor cow being injected with a gun into her ears or body ,, they think in those term and relate to human,, bunch of balonie
i myself did trenbolona for 6 months straight in good doses and no side aside from temper and quality muscle
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Gh15 realistically how long can one stay on trenbolone 100mg EOD before taking a break?
for life
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for life
you know what,, you are right,, only reason i woudnt do it for life is because no one want to be in condition for life,, ther eis a time you want to say fuck it and be part of humanity later in elder years
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you know what,, you are right,, only reason i woudnt do it for life is because no one want to be in condition for life,, ther eis a time you want to say fuck it and be part of humanity later in elder years
gh15 approved
could probably even do it every day
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And you KNOW you hit the vessel immediately too! It's one of those "oh shit here it comes" moments :D Then you're sweating, can't breathe in a fetal position on the bathroom floor.
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You are so right! I forgot to mention the sweats and the acne on my chest , shoulders, back (mine turned into little pussie boils). Showering didnt seem to help but they stopped a few weeks after my cycle.
I know someone who's been on tren for 15 years straight.
Get a micro derm cloth. I wash my shoulders, face, neck and chest and I don't get any acne. I use Vaseline brand cocoa butter too and it makes a huge difference.
Benzyl peroxide when you do get a zit too. I wash zits with rubbing alcohol and put BP on it before bed. No moisturizer before bed though. I soak my t-shirt so no extra moisture required lol. Fresh t shirt before bed and sheets and bedding get washed twice weekly.
I used to be covered in zits but steady hormones, good hygiene and not being afraid to moisturize is the key.
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I know someone who's been on tren for 15 years straight.
Get a micro derm cloth. I wash my shoulders, face, neck and chest and I don't get any acne. I use Vaseline brand cocoa butter too and it makes a huge difference.
Benzyl peroxide when you do get a zit too. I wash zits with rubbing alcohol and put BP on it before bed. No moisturizer before bed though. I soak my t-shirt so no extra moisture required lol. Fresh t shirt before bed and sheets and bedding get washed twice weekly.
I used to be covered in zits bit steady hormones, good hygiene and not being afraid to moisturize is the key.
Thanks for the advice!
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Gh, what's your opinion on Tren Enanthate?
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Gh, what's your opinion on Tren Enanthate?
Waste of time, waste of oil inject into your body. Acetato trumps enantat.
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tren ace = gold
tren enanthate = bronze
get the point ? :D
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tren ace = gold
tren enanthate = bronze
get the point ? :D
Got it. I just liked the idea of reaping the benefits of Tren w/o the daily or EOD inj.
I figured it was too good to be true.
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I know someone who's been on tren for 15 years straight.
Get a micro derm cloth. I wash my shoulders, face, neck and chest and I don't get any acne. I use Vaseline brand cocoa butter too and it makes a huge difference.
Benzyl peroxide when you do get a zit too. I wash zits with rubbing alcohol and put BP on it before bed. No moisturizer before bed though. I soak my t-shirt so no extra moisture required lol. Fresh t shirt before bed and sheets and bedding get washed twice weekly.
I used to be covered in zits but steady hormones, good hygiene and not being afraid to moisturize is the key.
Proviron really helped here for me. Cut the acne almost immediately.
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legit trenbolona ace will be golden yellowish ,, it can be either more yelowish or more golden depending on oxidation and other factors,,but the color is a combo between gold and yellow sometime more yellow sometime more gold but it will have the combo of golden yelow pee to it
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Are we gonna get that air bubble out of there?
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Got it. I just liked the idea of reaping the benefits of Tren w/o the daily or EOD inj.
I figured it was too good to be true.
I'm jabbing myself ed and I actually look forward to it - guess I'm an addict.
I'm pretty lean now though so I only stick it half an inch in, much quicker into the arse than the quad, now I've got the hang of it. Definitely notice myself having a shorter fuse on tren, but that's it for sides so far, I just take an extra breath every time I feel like opening my big mouth...
Had horrible shin pumps now and again since childhood, can't say their any worse recently.
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I get them when my weight climbs out of my "ideal" zone - how lean are you illwill ?
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Waste of time, waste of oil inject into your body. Acetato trumps enantat.
Wouldn't say waste - if you have a choice then always take the acetate but if enanth is all you can get its still good shit , TA always best though 8)
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How about parabalone, ive heard thats the best out there.
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Wow....I thought that lower back shit and paiful pumps were only from ProHormones, I remember reading about M1T and people were saying they were practically paralyzed by the pumps.
I've never had anything remotely like that, and I'm into my second run of tren. Occasional shortness of breath, and like everyone says....short fuse. and I've leaned to control that.
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Are we gonna get that air bubble out of there?
dont be a pussy.
:D
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you know what,, you are right,, only reason i woudnt do it for life is because no one want to be in condition for life,, ther eis a time you want to say fuck it and be part of humanity later in elder years
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I have been off Tren for a week and a half and hate. Not off by choice but should be back on any day now. Noticed I'm starting to loose my hard look. Your right GH this compound is very important and to me its addictive.
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What about this tri tren? Lots of it around
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dont be a pussy.
:D
Definition of hardcore right there ;D
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I have been off Tren for a week and a half and hate. Not off by choice but should be back on any day now. Noticed I'm starting to loose my hard look. Your right GH this compound is very important and to me its addictive.
what happen ot you is that you are losing lean muscle while gaining water and fat ,, the body composition change,, with trenbolona it happen within 10-14 days of being off it ,,it wont be real noticable until 3 to 4 week with out trenbolona in system especialy if on gh and testosteroan ,, but the loss start right now after 10 day or so ,,usualy you wioll be ok up to a week then small loses start on week 3 is start being noticable to you mainly in poicturess on the secodn month is harder to hide the damge unless trenbolona ace introduc again to body
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what happen ot you is that you are losing lean muscle while gaining water and fat ,, the body composition change,, with trenbolona it happen within 10-14 days of being off it ,,it wont be real noticable until 3 to 4 week with out trenbolona in system especialy if on gh and testosteroan ,, but the loss start right now after 10 day or so ,,usualy you wioll be ok up to a week then small loses start on week 3 is start being noticable to you mainly in poicturess on the secodn month is harder to hide the damge unless trenbolona ace introduc again to body
gh15 approved
The one time I ran tran I was using a high dose of t with it. My diet sucked. When I came off the tren I kept the high dose of testerone. I must of had some bad estro rebound because I bloated up like fat chick! It messed me up for awhile!
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dont be a pussy.
:D
LOL... 8)
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The one time I ran tran I was using a high dose of t with it. My diet sucked. When I came off the tren I kept the high dose of testerone. I must of had some bad estro rebound because I bloated up like fat chick! It messed me up for awhile!
you lost muscle,, getting more weight on scale mean nothing,, water bloat and fat,, mostly water bloat but also some fat if no trenbolona in blood,, if you take otu trenbolona and try to remain same condition you wil alwyas lose weight due to lean size loss,,
most fellas think they can replace trenbolona with some more testosterona and add hgh and be goign places,, nono friends,, trenbolona = ron colman ,, testosterona = dan hill,, do you think dan hill is as good as ron colman ? trenbolona is the strongest most powerful muscle builder,, lean muscle builder aroudn why?? becuse it drops the bodyfat and replalces it with muscle ,, it seperate the muscle fibers the tissue it add slowly legit muscle and in the same time reduce bodyfat ,, it is done fast ,, you see the changes with EVERY SINGLE INJECT
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what happen ot you is that you are losing lean muscle while gaining water and fat ,, the body composition change,, with trenbolona it happen within 10-14 days of being off it ,,it wont be real noticable until 3 to 4 week with out trenbolona in system especialy if on gh and testosteroan ,, but the loss start right now after 10 day or so ,,usualy you wioll be ok up to a week then small loses start on week 3 is start being noticable to you mainly in poicturess on the secodn month is harder to hide the damge unless trenbolona ace introduc again to body
gh15 approved
That's what I thought was going on, I understand the importance of this compound. Noticed my vascularity is disappearing as well unless I'm pumped but its not as much veins as before. I have been running it since March.
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That's what I thought was going on, I understand the importance of this compound. Noticed my vascularity is disappearing as well unless I'm pumped but its not as much veins as before. I have been running it since March.
seperation is the key word,, there is no seperation with no trenbolona,, well there is but it start blurr and you can eat clean all day long wont matter lol this is the big lie about diet in bodybuild lol,, its the trenbolona who seperate the muscle well lol hgh too...but trenbolona! is the key,, the first thing you wil notice is that after 2 months with no trenbolona in system no matter hwta you are on ...testosterona nandrolona dianabola,, you will stand and take picture and you just wont look as lean ,, now you will expect yourself to look bigger right friend? well,, not the case! you wil stand take picturre and you will see the delts are not as cupper and you seem to not be as wide,, you will see your bodyfat under the belly buttom suddenly start slowly increasing to the past zone...to the equiplibrium the body want to be ,,
you will suddenly see that not only you are not as lean as when you were on trenbolona but also you are not BIGGER like you thought you would be on so much testosterona ,, yes you will appear heavier,, you will have some bigger mesurments to a point but your muscle lean muscle wont be as big,,
thats the proeblem and the lie that you kept fed ,, the only drug that causes legit muscle growth due to body fat losee and incresae lean muscle while getting you in hard and drier condition is trenbolona ace
the secret of bodybuild is trenbolona ace ,, it let you eat not clean and get you in conditon ,, if you are on hgh window time and i dont need to explain what window time is it is in bible,, and you have trenboolona in system ....you can eat alost anything,, waffles ,, and icecream ,, and bagels and you get shreded period,,
infact if you dont eat enough carbs you will look flat!
trenbolona ,,you bettr eat carbs with it if you want to grow to full potential protien high cabr moderate to high and fat low,,
the all lie about low carbs,, im very mad at the cult for abusing you this way all the years,, i used ot be part of it and as you see im no more ,, its just plain abuse of good felas who want to be bodybuild and waste tons of money on clean food and supplments who get them no where,, i myself could not let it happen anymore,, im sorry
gh15 approved
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Hmm... High-carbs... Reminds me of a certain fella called George...
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Is there anyway to make the shin pumps stop? I don't mind pumps in the gym but walking is almost unbearable. Jeez lol
How is the limp dick working out for you, do you like that effect.
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Tren Ace needs to be shot EVERY DAY!! The half life is ACE Ester Not PROP! 8)
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Hmm... High-carbs... Reminds me of a certain fella called George...
Thinking the same Farah thing...
what a coinkedink, no?
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GH15,
When you talk about legit tren and the color I have a question
I, like many many others, make Tren using Fina
Pellets. The color has varied from many shades. I have always been
Under the impression the tren I make at 40cc's using pellets is the same
as the Tren Ace being sold by underground labs. Is this correct?
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GH15,
When you talk about legit tren and the color I have a question
I, like many many others, make Tren using Fina
Pellets. The color has varied from many shades. I have always been
Under the impression the tren I make at 40cc's using pellets is the same
as the Tren Ace being sold by underground labs. Is this correct?
Wrongo
Most sources use powder not pellets
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Wrongo
Most sources use powder not pellets
This
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GH15,
When you talk about legit tren and the color I have a question
I, like many many others, make Tren using Fina
Pellets. The color has varied from many shades. I have always been
Under the impression the tren I make at 40cc's using pellets is the same
as the Tren Ace being sold by underground labs. Is this correct?
its either just as good or better. sure it might have more contaminates but your guaranteed real hormone in the right doseage.
legit tren doesnt have to be brown. that means the tren was exposed to heat and oxidized a bit. other steroids dont do it so they sta golden, tren is usually brown/amber cuz most people either dry heat sterilize or have allowed it to be exposed to high temperatures. legit tren can be pure golden yellow if done right.
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Wow....I thought that lower back shit and paiful pumps were only from ProHormones, I remember reading about M1T and people were saying they were practically paralyzed by the pumps.
I've never had anything remotely like that, and I'm into my second run of tren. Occasional shortness of breath, and like everyone says....short fuse. and I've leaned to control that.
Lolz so I take it thread starter is your gimmick ;D
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How is the limp dick working out for you, do you like that effect.
Tren Ace will make you a porn star! It's in the bible
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Tren Ace needs to be shot EVERY DAY!! The half life is ACE Ester Not PROP! 8)
GH15 mentioned last week "Every 40 hours" in a proposed cycle. ED is fine as well.
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Tren Ace needs to be shot EVERY DAY!! The half life is ACE Ester Not PROP! 8)
no,, can be inject every 2 day and sometimes even every 3 day ,, depending on dose really ,, at 120-200mg can be inject every 2 day
gh15 approved
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GH15,
When you talk about legit tren and the color I have a question
I, like many many others, make Tren using Fina
Pellets. The color has varied from many shades. I have always been
Under the impression the tren I make at 40cc's using pellets is the same
as the Tren Ace being sold by underground labs. Is this correct?
no ,, trenbolona ace from specikal chefs is made from poweder ,,and the top ched make it from the best powder and dose is right and in most time overdose it ,, if you try strengo trenbolona for exampke you understand just how big this drug is in bodybuild,,the strengo trenbolona due to the chef and its great talent change your body compsitiion in matter of days,, again you need to be a bodybuild when you start it,, you cant just come 20% and say here i am trenbolonie vail now work you whore!,,, no it will will work but if you 20% it will take sometime,,
but! if you are a bodybuild 10% a trenbolona like strengo and other top chef get you ready so fast you yourself sit and wonder whats going on ,, then you understand ...OHHHHH I FINALY HAVE TOP CHEF!
gh15 approved
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Thinking the same Farah thing...
what a coinkedink, no?
The sad part is no doubt he is on his way out...I personally don't think he will stick around much longer. Well, I guess we have all the pupils or whatever, but the real gh15 will sorely be missed :-[ :-[ :-[
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Wow....I thought that lower back shit and paiful pumps were only from ProHormones, I remember reading about M1T and people were saying they were practically paralyzed by the pumps.
I've never had anything remotely like that, and I'm into my second run of tren. Occasional shortness of breath, and like everyone says....short fuse. and I've leaned to control that.
Except on getbig!
;D
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seperation is the key word,, there is no seperation with no trenbolona,, well there is but it start blurr and you can eat clean all day long wont matter lol this is the big lie about diet in bodybuild lol,, its the trenbolona who seperate the muscle well lol hgh too...but trenbolona! is the key,, the first thing you wil notice is that after 2 months with no trenbolona in system no matter hwta you are on ...testosterona nandrolona dianabola,, you will stand and take picture and you just wont look as lean ,, now you will expect yourself to look bigger right friend? well,, not the case! you wil stand take picturre and you will see the delts are not as cupper and you seem to not be as wide,, you will see your bodyfat under the belly buttom suddenly start slowly increasing to the past zone...to the equiplibrium the body want to be ,,
you will suddenly see that not only you are not as lean as when you were on trenbolona but also you are not BIGGER like you thought you would be on so much testosterona ,, yes you will appear heavier,, you will have some bigger mesurments to a point but your muscle lean muscle wont be as big,,
thats the proeblem and the lie that you kept fed ,, the only drug that causes legit muscle growth due to body fat losee and incresae lean muscle while getting you in hard and drier condition is trenbolona ace
the secret of bodybuild is trenbolona ace ,, it let you eat not clean and get you in conditon ,, if you are on hgh window time and i dont need to explain what window time is it is in bible,, and you have trenboolona in system ....you can eat alost anything,, waffles ,, and icecream ,, and bagels and you get shreded period,,
infact if you dont eat enough carbs you will look flat!
trenbolona ,,you bettr eat carbs with it if you want to grow to full potential protien high cabr moderate to high and fat low,,
the all lie about low carbs,, im very mad at the cult for abusing you this way all the years,, i used ot be part of it and as you see im no more ,, its just plain abuse of good felas who want to be bodybuild and waste tons of money on clean food and supplments who get them no where,, i myself could not let it happen anymore,, im sorry
gh15 approved
But eating whatever you want will make you sit on 6% dry?
or you will hold water and get blurry lines ?
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on trenbolona 150-200mg every day or 2 with cycling testosterona and masterona...you will be a dry 6% on icecream ,, sushi,, burgers,, bread,, pineaple sugar,, banans 6 a day ,, eggwhites,, german,,
the thing with trenbolona ace is....the longer you run it thr more shredded you are with out conection to what you eat...the veins just poping out from under the skin and you sit and type many of the fellas do right now on their computer you look to left forarm and to right forarm and say what the fuck haoppen a week ago i had very litle notiable veins now i look like a spider web a weaker one but wait till you get the pump in tomorow...and within weeks you have the pump all day long with drier look still eating icecream only now you have more lean muscle and you are seperated and you can see all arm sepration you see on philsulina.... since you use your miserable 100mg trenbolona while he use his 200 and 300 mg in addition to hgh insulina and plenty of other drugs ,,this is only the beggining friend ,, trenbolona ...the longer you run it the more shreded you become...
this is how it goes with trenbolona friend
you start 10%
wihtin week you se changes and very easy to see changes in bodycomposition ,, the veins start poping out in the delt ,, the vein i usualy talk about from delt to chest start coming out,, the infamous jason cutler only vein lol ,,
within 2-3 weeks you are seperated and you are a veet away and a tann away from looking like a ripped bodybuild,, you are ripped but its not as impressive as when you are shaved and tann,,
within couple months you walk around 6% no matter what ,, you wake up in the morning flatter yet veins are all over,, you lift your shirt up and you see veins coming up the lower tummy ,, you see veins coming on the calves on the quads on the back legs ,, EVEN IF YOU DONT TRSAIN YOU LEGS!!,, you see veins coming on your chest ofcourse this you see much earlier,, you see veins that you didnt knwo you had even if you dont have many veins geneticaly you will see what you have to an outstanding level,, its because your skin will thin and your lean muscle will increase and push the vein out,,
and yes all that can be achieved on icecream lol you wont be 4% no,, but 6% you will and you will look ripped to shredded depending on your genetic look ,,
you will hear compliments all the time ,, fellas will enter i dont know a store name a store ummm some 40 year old moron will enter a stor called walmart ...you will stand and read a magazine or something he will come to you pass you and say to you with out you even noticing him he will make sure to say to you ,, HEY BUD YOU ARE RIPPED,, NICEEEE,, or he may say you look like them muscle magazine fellas you look at ,, and its not something yuo will fish ...it is something you will hear on a constant basis,,
you will go to swimming pool with your girlfriend.... you enter the place with tank top and there will be silence of the lambs going ...everyone will stare ,, the males in particular they will be very quiet and stare with admiration ,, the females will ofcourse be crazy about it if americano females but they wil be more smily friendly give you fuck me tonight in the back yard look,, its jsut how it is on this drug ,, this drug is a drug that a bodybuild rely most on ,,
gh15 approved
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no,, can be inject every 2 day and sometimes even every 3 day ,, depending on dose really ,, at 120-200mg can be inject every 2 day
gh15 approved
why would you do this with a drug that has a 36 hour half-life?
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why would you do this with a drug that has a 36 hour half-life?
bodybuild are lazy someime,, usualy every 40 hour best ,, but soimetime lazy and just take 200mg in one shot and go do it again after 60 hours insted of 40... the half life of 36 hour is nto exactly 36 hours,, trenbolona will hold good 48-60 hours in the half life,,again its much better every day or 2 ,, every 3 day not good on a regular basis,, but once in a blue moon its fine
every day or eveery other day is the way to go with trenbolona ace
gh15 approved
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why would you do this with a drug that has a 36 hour half-life?
Ace works better daily, disregard the half life. Take a look at some graphs of blood levels post injection if you can dig them up, tren peaks and bottoms out pretty damn fast. Listen to vets, VETS, they shoot daily.
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on trenbolona 150-200mg every day or 2 with cycling testosterona and masterona...you will be a dry 6% on icecream ,, sushi,, burgers,, bread,, pineaple sugar,, banans 6 a day ,, eggwhites,, german,,
the thing with trenbolona ace is....the longer you run it thr more shredded you are with out conection to what you eat...the veins just poping out from under the skin and you sit and type many of the fellas do right now on their computer you look to left forarm and to right forarm and say what the fuck haoppen a week ago i had very litle notiable veins now i look like a spider web a weaker one but wait till you get the pump in tomorow...and within weeks you have the pump all day long with drier look still eating icecream only now you have more lean muscle and you are seperated and you can see all arm sepration you see on philsulina.... since you use your miserable 100mg trenbolona while he use his 200 and 300 mg in addition to hgh insulina and plenty of other drugs ,,this is only the beggining friend ,, trenbolona ...the longer you run it the more shreded you become...
this is how it goes with trenbolona friend
you start 10%
wihtin week you se changes and very easy to see changes in bodycomposition ,, the veins start poping out in the delt ,, the vein i usualy talk about from delt to chest start coming out,, the infamous jason cutler only vein lol ,,
within 2-3 weeks you are seperated and you are a veet away and a tann away from looking like a ripped bodybuild,, you are ripped but its not as impressive as when you are shaved and tann,,
within couple months you walk around 6% no matter what ,, you wake up in the morning flatter yet veins are all over,, you lift your shirt up and you see veins coming up the lower tummy ,, you see veins coming on the calves on the quads on the back legs ,, EVEN IF YOU DONT TRSAIN YOU LEGS!!,, you see veins coming on your chest ofcourse this you see much earlier,, you see veins that you didnt knwo you had even if you dont have many veins geneticaly you will see what you have to an outstanding level,, its because your skin will thin and your lean muscle will increase and push the vein out,,
and yes all that can be achieved on icecream lol you wont be 4% no,, but 6% you will and you will look ripped to shredded depending on your genetic look ,,
you will hear compliments all the time ,, fellas will enter i dont know a store name a store ummm some 40 year old moron will enter a stor called walmart ...you will stand and read a magazine or something he will come to you pass you and say to you with out you even noticing him he will make sure to say to you ,, HEY BUD YOU ARE RIPPED,, NICEEEE,, or he may say you look like them muscle magazine fellas you look at ,, and its not something yuo will fish ...it is something you will hear on a constant basis,,
you will go to swimming pool with your girlfriend.... you enter the place with tank top and there will be silence of the lambs going ...everyone will stare ,, the males in particular they will be very quiet and stare with admiration ,, the females will ofcourse be crazy about it if americano females but they wil be more smily friendly give you fuck me tonight in the back yard look,, its jsut how it is on this drug ,, this drug is a drug that a bodybuild rely most on ,,
gh15 approved
Spot on assessment. Sickeningly amazing compound to say the least.
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on trenbolona 150-200mg every day or 2 with cycling testosterona and masterona...you will be a dry 6% on icecream ,, sushi,, burgers,, bread,, pineaple sugar,, banans 6 a day ,, eggwhites,, german,,
the thing with trenbolona ace is....the longer you run it thr more shredded you are with out conection to what you eat...the veins just poping out from under the skin and you sit and type many of the fellas do right now on their computer you look to left forarm and to right forarm and say what the fuck haoppen a week ago i had very litle notiable veins now i look like a spider web a weaker one but wait till you get the pump in tomorow...and within weeks you have the pump all day long with drier look still eating icecream only now you have more lean muscle and you are seperated and you can see all arm sepration you see on philsulina.... since you use your miserable 100mg trenbolona while he use his 200 and 300 mg in addition to hgh insulina and plenty of other drugs ,,this is only the beggining friend ,, trenbolona ...the longer you run it the more shreded you become...
this is how it goes with trenbolona friend
you start 10%
wihtin week you se changes and very easy to see changes in bodycomposition ,, the veins start poping out in the delt ,, the vein i usualy talk about from delt to chest start coming out,, the infamous jason cutler only vein lol ,,
within 2-3 weeks you are seperated and you are a veet away and a tann away from looking like a ripped bodybuild,, you are ripped but its not as impressive as when you are shaved and tann,,
within couple months you walk around 6% no matter what ,, you wake up in the morning flatter yet veins are all over,, you lift your shirt up and you see veins coming up the lower tummy ,, you see veins coming on the calves on the quads on the back legs ,, EVEN IF YOU DONT TRSAIN YOU LEGS!!,, you see veins coming on your chest ofcourse this you see much earlier,, you see veins that you didnt knwo you had even if you dont have many veins geneticaly you will see what you have to an outstanding level,, its because your skin will thin and your lean muscle will increase and push the vein out,,
and yes all that can be achieved on icecream lol you wont be 4% no,, but 6% you will and you will look ripped to shredded depending on your genetic look ,,
you will hear compliments all the time ,, fellas will enter i dont know a store name a store ummm some 40 year old moron will enter a stor called walmart ...you will stand and read a magazine or something he will come to you pass you and say to you with out you even noticing him he will make sure to say to you ,, HEY BUD YOU ARE RIPPED,, NICEEEE,, or he may say you look like them muscle magazine fellas you look at ,, and its not something yuo will fish ...it is something you will hear on a constant basis,,
you will go to swimming pool with your girlfriend.... you enter the place with tank top and there will be silence of the lambs going ...everyone will stare ,, the males in particular they will be very quiet and stare with admiration ,, the females will ofcourse be crazy about it if americano females but they wil be more smily friendly give you fuck me tonight in the back yard look,, its jsut how it is on this drug ,, this drug is a drug that a bodybuild rely most on ,,
gh15 approved
What about when your sittin' at around 15 % ? Same as 20 ? Thanks, God. :-)
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good read,,,some fella's here know there shit,,,
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What about when your sittin' at around 15 % ? Same as 20 ? Thanks, God. :-)
Drugs act very differently above 10% bodyfat. Again, no one knows EXACTLY why, and it's pointless to wonder. Lean out before jumping on anything big time. GH if you can afford it, T3 and some type of clen or ephedrine type stack and drop the bodyfat for a good 5-6 weeks first, then change things up.
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this shit was designed to get fucking CATTLES as lean and as big they can! what do you think happen when humans use it! of course its potent lol it waas made for 700lbs beast, we are 200lbs tiny humans
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Now i know what i am gonna be on this winter ;D ;D ;D
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why would you do this with a drug that has a 36 hour half-life?
Youre wrong, its 36.234284 hours.
If you surpass this time "window" youre "off" and need "pct" as quick as possible.
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Now i know what i am gonna be on this winter ;D ;D ;D
So do we...
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Ace works better daily, disregard the half life. Take a look at some graphs of blood levels post injection if you can dig them up, tren peaks and bottoms out pretty damn fast. Listen to vets, VETS, they shoot daily.
I always do daily tren shots. I was wondering why he would recommend doing it eod or every three days.
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this shit was designed to get fucking CATTLES as lean and as big they can! what do you think happen when humans use it! of course its potent lol it waas made for 700lbs beast, we are 200lbs tiny humans
I bet they inject slightly more than 100mg ed...
many drugs were designed for vet purpose, but we still use them.
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I always do daily tren shots. I was wondering why he would recommend doing it eod or every three days.
Lazyness. We don't live in a perfect world with the time or patience to inject shit all day long.
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Lazyness. We don't live in a perfect world with the time or patience to inject shit all day long.
ther you hav eit ,, legit answer from legit experienced bodybuild
gh15 approved
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ther you hav eit ,, legit answer from legit experienced bodybuild
gh15 approved
LOL!!! It takes less time for me to do an injection than it does for me to take a shit.