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http://cnsnews.com/blog/grant-m-dahl/fmr-clinton-adviser-very-possible-obama-will-bow-out-presidential-race-now
Two points....first for all u Obamabots - if you asshole president was doing so well there wouldn't be any talk like this
2nd: That he could do this and come back based on what Morris outlines. I think once he's ousted he'll never be heard from again..but whatever.
In an interview with conservative radio icon Sean Hannity, former President Clinton adviser and campaign manager Dick Morris stated that, after speaking with a Democratic strategist, he thinks it is “very possible” that President Obama might acquiesce to requests from the Democratic leadership in Congress and bow out of the 2012 race, leaving the door open for him to return sometime in the future.
“I asked a top Democratic strategist the other day and he thought that it was possible that, in January, Harry Reid comes to Obama and says, ‘Look you cost us control of the House last year, you’re going to cost us control of the Senate this year. For the good of the party you have to step aside’” said Morris.
“And, then, (Obama) pulls a Lyndon Johnson, he says ‘I’m fighting to solve the recession, and problem is because of partisanship and my re-election people reject everything I say because of partisanship, so I’m going to not run for president and focus my full time attention on solving this recession’ and then go out popular,” Morris added.
The strategy proposed here is an interesting one. With his approval ratings at an all time low, Obama is looking at a very high likelihood of a defeat in the 2012 elections and forecasters, using the examples of the 2011 special elections in New York City and Nevada, have forecast a very high probability of losses across the nation for the Democratic Party because of Obama.
A withdrawal by President Obama, with a statement that the reason he’s bowing out is to solve the recession, would likely allow the Democratic Party to recover some of its popularity and allow the president to present himself as rising above the partisan fights in Congress with a higher goal in mind. This would help the Democrats to better portray the Republicans, and especially the Tea Party, as the stubborn, non-compromising party uninterested in truly solving the nation’s problems.
Morris added that he thinks that this strategy could also set up Obama for a presidential run in a later election.
“The twenty second amendment does not preclude non-consecutive terms, he is young, (he could) preserve himself as a possible candidate down the road” said Morris. “We’ve seen how Bill Clinton is much more popular now then he was when he was leaving office, same with Jimmy Carter.”
Intriguing as that possibility is, however, non-consecutive presidential terms have only happened once before in American politics, though they have been attempted by a few former presidents. The only president to successfully serve non-consecutive terms was Democrat Grover Cleveland who won election in 1884, lost in 1888, and won in 1892.
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Dick Morris ?
You mean the Fox News commentator
He probably has less insight about Obama than you
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He still has ties....do you think this is the only guy saying this.
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Krauthammer Warns Obama Will Suffer Landslide Election
It's a significant disparity if you compare excitement and enthusiasm that Democrats had for Obama in 2008, where he was near messianic, to now where he actually has a record and he's rather mortal. There will be none of that enthusiasm again, it's almost impossible. It had a lot to do in 2008 with the fact that he was almost entirely unknown and was extremely eloquent and was lightning in a bottle. That is never going to happen again. He's got a record now and it's a bad one. So there is no way that you can ever get near that.
But I think even worse for Obama than the decline in the intensity of support among Democrats--because after all, where they are going to go--on election day they'll be out there for him--is the number on independents. The number on independents is staggeringly bad. 31% approval of independents.
Obama won the election of 2008 on the basis of independents, and the first hint of trouble came in the off-year elections at end of 2009 in Virginia and New Jersey, where independents in states that had gone Obama went 2-1 against Obama. Then in the Senate race for the so-called Kennedy seat in January of 2010 the independents went 3 to 1 against Democrats. And I think if Obama cannot rise from the 31% approval he has among independents he is going to suffer a landslide.
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He still has ties....do you think this is the only guy saying this.
you think Morris has ties to Obama
he doesn't even have ties to the Clinton's anymore
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you think Morris has ties to Obama
he doesn't even have ties to the Clinton's anymore
Straw - you keep discounting my CT on this. But think about it - what possibly does obama have to gain with a 2nd term considering the fact that the GOP will hold the congress, the scandals will be erupting and unfolding, the economy will still be in collapse, etc?
He can go off and make millions of dollars and leave his mess behind him for the rest of us to deal with.
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Yeah your right..he doesn't know anybody anymore. Did I mention ties to Obama or Clinton? Your killing the messenger way to much for a guy who voted for the collosal failure that is BHO.
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Straw - you keep discounting my CT on this. But think about it - what possibly does obama have to gain with a 2nd term considering the fact that the GOP will hold the congress, the scandals will be erupting and unfolding, the economy will still be in collapse, etc?
He can go off and make millions of dollars and leave his mess behind him for the rest of us to deal with.
There is nothing that has happened that would even remotely knock Obama off course
you can't see it because you rant and rave every day about every little thing and blow every tiny thing out of proportion
your perspective is from a radical, right wing fringe so you can't really see the big picture (no offense, just saying)
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There is nothing that has happened that would even remotely knock Obama off course
you can't see it because you rant and rave every day about every little thing and blow every tiny thing out of proportion
your perspective is from a radical, right wing fringe so you can't really see the big picture (no offense, just saying)
solyndra
fast n furious
lightsquared
failed economy
failed obamacare
failed energy program
failed debt/deficit plan
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hilary would ASS RAPE any repub GOP contender out there.
careful what you wish for... hilary sure ain't repealing obamacare ;)
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One & Done.
Skip like.
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repubs should be PRAYING obama stays in the race.
Imagine hilary, an option for people who hate obama, but also dislike the batshit-crazy far-right batch of candidates that is out there.
The GOPers don't have a lick of foreign policy experience. Hilary sure does. Their ecnomic experience is weak - Hilary's attached to Bill, and they made things pretty good economically.
Pray obama stays in the race. Hilary would win 40 states without breaking a sweat. Imagine Hilary shaking her head in disgust and laughing out loud at a befuddled/mumbling Perry at the national debates. It would be child's play.
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solyndra
fast n furious
lightsquared
failed economy
failed obamacare
failed energy program
failed debt/deficit plan
again - your perspective is not the same as most people
that's the nicest way I can say it
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again - your perspective is not the same as most people
that's the nicest way I can say it
agreed. Most people don't care aobut F&F.
chances are, unless the GOp runs Mitt, the dems will just be voting AGAINST perry anyway.
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again - your perspective is not the same as most people
that's the nicest way I can say it
Name one issue above where people disagree with me on.
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agreed. Most people don't care aobut F&F.
chances are, unless the GOp runs Mitt, the dems will just be voting AGAINST perry anyway.
Yeah - more people care about bristol palin - got it.
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Yeah - more people care about bristol palin - got it.
Dude, you live on political boards and listen to Rush. Most people do not.
Yes, more americans could identify palin than could tell you what the hell F&F is.
This is a FACT. So yes, more people would vote AGAINST Palin in 2012 than would vote AGAINST "the guy who may have been behind F&F"
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Name one issue above where people disagree with me on.
all of them
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all of them
LMFAO! ! ! Obama is at 39% at Gallup fo fucks sake!
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dick morris from fox nutwork, now there is a reliable source :D :D :D
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Yeah - more people care about bristol palin - got it.
that's certainly true about people in your party
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dick morris from fox nutwork, now there is a reliable source :D :D :D
Morris has made a career out of saying outrageous stuff
that's how he pays the bills
no one actually takes him seriously
not even the dopes that watch Faux News
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Morris has made a career out of saying outrageous stuff
that's how he pays the bills
no one actually takes him seriously
not even the dopes that watch Faux News
someone is ;D
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someone is ;D
I will wager $50 with anyone, payable via paypal that Bama drops out.
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I will wager $50 with anyone, payable via paypal that Bama drops out.
Make it $100 and I'll take it
how does paypal work?
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Make it $100 and I'll take it
how does paypal work?
Deal. Very easy. Or if you want you can send me a check when he drops out.
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I will wager $50 with anyone, payable via paypal that Bama drops out.
I would like to take you up on that wager, 333386.
i love to gamble. however, I think i'll pass because I'm not quite sure it's legal to wager like that online. I tried on intrade in 2008, the moment I saw that running mate of Mccains. THey wouldn't let me.
So while I would - seirously - wager you $1000 if I could (and we both know each other, so I don't think there'd be any welching) -
I'll have to pass. But him staying in the race is the BEST thing for repubs if they want that senate. Hilary would swoop back a whole lotta house seats.
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Deal. Very easy. Or if you want you can send me a check when he drops out.
I'm fine with the bet
it's easy money
how does paypal work
I dont' have an account
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I'm fine with the bet
it's easy money
how does paypal work
I dont' have an account
Either that or You can send me a check.
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Either that or You can send me a check.
I'll do even better
I'll send you a cashiers check
more importantly how will you pay me when you lose ?
If I need to get a paypal account I can do that too
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I'll do even better
I'll send you a cashiers check
more importantly how will you pay me when you lose ?
If I need to get a paypal account I can do that too
You can send me pennies for all I care.
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You can send me pennies for all I care.
I have no problem sending you a cashier check
if you prefer paypal then I'll set up an account