Is that supposed to be the same guy in the first pic?
Has anyone on here actully trained hard and I mean really hard consistantly with a good diet for more than a year before jumping on hormones???????well somewhat attainable
Seems like alot of people on here havnt. He looks good, but this is deffinatly attainable without hormones.
well somewhat attainableIm not saying hes not on hormones... he may be Im saying its attainable without them. redness doesnt mean shit, how do u kow its not a sunburn?? MAybe he just got out of the shower or just finished working out.... maybe he just popped a niacin tablet lol. Delts look good for a natty ya, but it doesnt scream hormones. He may have been working his ass off in the gym and eating right everyday for years.
but
read this I agree
"very flush red skin roid response. no not sunburn, flushing. match up 2 many pictures. hormonal delt growth very obvious from BDB."
typical signs of hormone use.
see it all the time over the years. kids puffing up on dbols in notime then shrink back to nothing even faster ;)
Im not saying hes not on hormones... he may be Im saying its attainable without them.
you can attain that naturally.This
but he didn't
asbrus has good upper body, very poor lower though. legs will still respond well to hormonals as gh15 has stated. u still need to train them. perhaps he wants to be fitness model? why would u claim natural? very obvious u are not.
asbrus before cycle & hormonals.
(http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2011/04/14/22666121/gallerypic/1ysytqPX1jRAhpxmOA1zfjNjq8BL41341.jpeg)
responds on back much visible acne. more than natural gymrat with testerone pumping. easily seen scar.
(http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2011/04/08/22666121/gallerypic/1zWXKHAdYTf3DkOEcJfXIvUM4cQQdU173e.jpeg)
very flush red skin roid response. no not sunburn, flushing. match up 2 many pictures. hormonal delt growth very obvious from BDB.
(http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2011/04/08/22666121/gallerypic/1YZpsn5M7hfAj1aFnNzTZ6j0cd01305e.jpeg)
observe this 'natural' midsection
(http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2011/08/26/22666121/gallerypic/1r7hauRB8RWDZmQjjxjjGixprrcNOo024e.jpeg)
train legs properly asbrus and ask help here 4 cycle. no more natural lies. u want to be a champion this is the place to get help.
no more lies.
brought 2 u by team gh15
you can attain that naturally.
but he didn't
Im not saying hes not on hormones... he may be Im saying its attainable without them. redness doesnt mean shit, how do u kow its not a sunburn?? MAybe he just got out of the shower or just finished working out.... maybe he just popped a niacin tablet lol. Delts look good for a natty ya, but it doesnt scream hormones. He may have been working his ass off in the gym and eating right everyday for years.
Here is how it goes for people who deny their steroid usage
Their before steroids pics become their before gym pics
Their bacne becomes a suburn
Their receding hairline isn't really receding
They only exercise their fave body parts cuz remember all they care about is image and if they wear pants their legs are hidden
Can you tell us some of your best sets? :)
well somewhat attainable
but
read this I agree
"very flush red skin roid response. no not sunburn, flushing. match up 2 many pictures. hormonal delt growth very obvious from BDB."
typical signs of hormone use.
see it all the time over the years. kids puffing up on dbols in notime then shrink back to nothing even faster ;)
why u say u post evidence to contrary to something, every pics of ur muscles screams steroids, it's all evidence of steroids under your skin called muscular development, and ur pic of before you start lifting weights - lol - that is what u look like before steroids, that is shitty dude, you probably even got pumped up for the pic
Has anyone on here actully trained hard and I mean really hard consistantly with a good diet for more than a year before jumping on hormones???????
Seems like alot of people on here havnt. He looks good, but this is deffinatly attainable without hormones.
dude is just poping some dbols here and there. First pic is him natural, last one is him on dbol, as simple as that.
LIKE I SAID I CAN IMAGINE WHY Y0U W0ULD THINK IT'S UNATTAINABLE. Y0U SAID Y0U WERE 5 8 110 LBS PRE LIFTING. THIS IS A PHYSIQUE 0F A PETITE ASIAN FEMALE. I SAID IT AGAIN AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN.
0KAY Y0U SERI0USLY ARE RETARTED IF Y0U THINK THAT WAS ME ALREADY LIFTING HEAVY F0R MANY YEARS WITH MY B0NE STRUCTURE. THAT WAS ME PRE LIFTING AT 17. AND L0L AT ME BEING 30. TR0LL AWAY.
haha so it's water retention due to creatine + taking pics right after a biceps/ chest workout and situps? ::)
someone post pics of his receding hairline lol, also, why do you respond? WHy do you think you have to say yes or no when people say that you use steroids? You understand that your approval is not needed right, you understand that we all know you're a liar, right? You call people idiots and retards, but you don't have the intelligence to figure out that we don't need you to agree with us, right?
Here's some insight I have into your character: You really hate yourself. You are depressed, you lie lie lie about having money and this and that, you don't, not only are you a liar in thar regard, but you look in the mirror and see a hair line that belongs on a 45 year old when you are 30. This clinches it, you can not go back to reality, it is too painful. How long ago did u have sex last? It's been years, hasn't it?
You know how I know this?
Because of the way you regard your presteroid self in the pic that you claim is of you at 17 before even stepping foot in a gym. You hate that kid, that kid lifted weights for at least a year, looks like 6 months to a year of lifting weights, he did cardio and he took ephedrine to go down to 6 %, which is fucking lean for a natural, and he was SO ASHAMED of what he was that he now pretends that kid never went to the gym, never built up that foundation. He insults that kid, he remembers looking at himself and thinking "i am pathetic," and now that he supposedly is better than that kid, he demeans him even further... you say that kid never hit the weights... when you walked around as that kid, you thought this is what people thought when they saw you: "does he even lift weights?lol" That hurts doesn't it. Yeah
This kid was not only scrawny in his own eyes, but also quite naive and stupid, because when he started to use steroids he told himself that FINALLY he can pretend to be in teh class of genetically superior people he saw on the cover of the fitness magazines, but little did he know all those people were on steroids too. WHen you call people an idiot, this is really you abusing that kid again, it's you calling him an idiot, it's you abusing the little asbrus in other people, this is how I know you're depressed.
This is why you lie, you hate yourself, for you to accept reality is too painful... you do not have to lie, the people who made you feel inferior in the past were all liars too, you do not have to abuse people and call them stupid and say they had physiques of asian women, you do not have to hate yourself, you are normal and had a nice body even before you did steroid, come to the light side
I did not even use the word delusional here, this is me being nice
Asbrus looks natural to me. I don't see why anyone would think that his results are unattainable by way of hard work and proper diet.
Also, the guy doesn't look that tall to me, so he probably is able to fill out his muscle bellies with relative ease as compared to some of the taller guys here.
It's hard to tell really. Asbrus are you from New York?
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DELUSI0NAL. I THINK Y0U ARE CLEARLY G0ING INSANE N0W ACCUSING ME 0F BEING 30 AND TAKING EPEDERINE IN THE FIRST PIC. YES. I REALLY G0T Y0U WITH THAT ASIAN PETITE C0MMENT I SEE. P00R GUY I D0 FEEL S0RRY F0R Y0U MAN. EPIC MELTD0WN. ;D
(http://steynian.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/nuke-test.jpeg)
D0UBT IT. M0ST GUYS 0N THIS SITE JUDGING FR0M P0STS I'VE READ HAVE N0 IDEA H0W T0 EVEN TRAIN NATURALLY MUCH LESS 0N R0IDS. THE R0UTINES AND EATING HABITS THAT W0RK F0R R0ID USERS D0 N0T W0RK F0R NATURALS.Im still natural, contemplating starting a cycle but prob wont. Dont think I want to be a slave to the needle my whole life, because if I start Ill prob never stop. I was around the same weight as u at 17 and im 5,11 205 now at 24 years old. Im not as lean as u are in the last pic, but I can still see 4 of my abbs fairly well. Ive been working out sense i was 17 or so and for the past 6 years I have been killing the weights and pounding the food everyday. I also Sleep at least 8 hours everynight and rairly drink alcohol. Believe it or not I really never expected to ever reach 200 naturaly, but it happend.
unfortuley u see the cycle of liar keep on lying. now u can also se where the term roid rage has been derive from. sad very sad.
asbrus no need to be afriad this is getbig not ifbb bodybuild.com steroid talk is ok. u are in a safe place an u can tlak freely about ur use doses cycle goals, etcetera.
plz no more lies.
Im still natural, contemplating starting a cycle but prob wont. Dont think I want to be a slave to the needle my whole life, because if I start Ill prob never stop. I was around the same weight as u at 17 and im 5,11 205 now at 24 years old. Im not as lean as u are in the last pic, but I can still see 4 of my abbs fairly well. Ive been working out sense i was 17 or so and for the past 6 years I have been killing the weights and pounding the food everyday. I also Sleep at least 8 hours everynight and rairly drink alcohol. Believe it or not I really never expected to ever reach 200 naturaly, but it happend.
btw, lol at 1morerep hitting on him in this thread, it's like when a woman lies about something like her job to me and I wanna fuck her, she says she's a director when she really an assistent, I go "I can see why you are a director, you have the mind for organizing things, so you new in town?" lolhahaha nice one, right on target.
what's so special about him? he's narrow and got weak back.
GET IT????Been saying it for months, I get a chuckle out of myself every time. :D
ASSBRUISE
INSTEAD OF ASBRUS IT'S ASBRUISE
IT'S HILARIOUS
YUP I'M S0 NARR0W. ::)
ASBRUS, You got a hell of a lot of potential and that means I agree with Jason, and maybe others on this board but I haven't read all this stuff yet.
Whatever the hell you're doing, KEEP ON DOING IT! You got the potential to make it happen but you gotta have the heart that Leafy has to keep on improving.
Any leg shots assbruise?
THANKS A L0T. I REALLY D0UBT I'D EVER T0UCH ANY H0RM0NES TH0UGH AS I HAVE N0 PLANS 0N C0MPETING. IT W0ULD BE INTERESTING T0 SEE THE EFFECTS TH0UGH. MAYBE 0NE DAY.
Any leg shots assbruise?
Does he do the capslock thing just to annoy us? ???He claims to be too poor to afford a new keyboard. I just read somewhere that he is in California, if he wants I'll meet up with him and bring him a new keyboard.
He claims to be too poor to afford a new keyboard. I just read somewhere that he is in California, if he wants I'll meet up with him and bring him a new keyboard.
Any leg shots assbruise?
Not bad for 180lbs, assbruise.
What's your cycle look like?
I LIVE 0N CAMPUS AT THE M0MENT S0 I GET AB0UT 3-4 C00KED MEALS IN FR0M THE CAFETERIA. QUITE FRESH ACTUALLY. PLUS A SHAKE 0R TW0. IN THE GYM AB0UT 5 DAYS A WEEK HITTING EATCH MUSCLE GR0UP 2X A WEEK. THE 0NLY THING I TAKE IS WHEY PR0TEIN AND S0ME CELL MASS THAT I RECENTLY B0UGHT.What campus? PM me and I'll bring you a new keyboard, you cheap bastard, assbruise.
ASBRUS, maybe down the line a bit you should consider this new NPC Physique Division. There's going to be money made there somewhere down the road a bit.
He claims to be too poor to afford a new keyboard. I just read somewhere that he is in California, if he wants I'll meet up with him and bring him a new keyboard.
THE INTELLIGENCE LEVEL 0F AN AVERAGE GET BIGGER IS 0N PAR WITH A 5TH GRADER. S0 I C0ULD CARE LESS WHAT THE RETARDS 0N THIS F0RUM THINK AB0UT ME.
I DID W0RK F0R 2.5 YEARS AND WAS MAKING 50 GRAND PLUS A YEAR. (SALES C0MMISSI0N) BUT M0ST STUDENTS D0N'T W0RK WHILE G0ING T0 T0P TIER SCH00LS YET ARE M0RE SUCCESSFULL IN LIFE AFTER THEY GRADUATE THEN STUDENTS WH0 W0RKED IN SHITTY J0BS AND WENT T0 L0WER LEVEL SCH00LS. EXAMPLES ARE ALL IVY LEAGUE SCH00LS. THAT IS A FACT BECAUSE THE TUTITI0N IS FAR T00 MUCH T0 PAY 0FF W0RKING AT STARBUCKS 0R MCD0NALDS. 30-40 GRAND A YEAR. AND Y0U ARE A FAILURE IN LIFE WHICH IS WHY Y0U SPENT M0ST 0F Y0UR DAY AS A GR0WN MEN 0N GETBIG.C0M DEBATING ME L0L. FACE THE TRUTH AND DEAL WITH IT. ;D
Assbruise poor? Assbruise a liar? Why can't people accept that he is just a very exceptional 20 year old man. He got a sales manager position paying him $50,000+/yr at barely 18 years old and he goes to an Ivy League University. And he's not trying to impress you. He's so beyond that. He and his brother just like to go into the bathroom together and strip down to their underwear and take pictures of each other. Just a couple of real ilovespam doing some broskie bonding.
unfortuley u see the cycle of liar keep on lying. now u can also se where the term roid rage has been derive from. sad very sad.You GH15 wanna be's kill me. Start typing in english newb! It's exceptable for GH15 to do it, that's his thing. When you do it, it just identifies you as another GH15 parrot with no skill. Calling out other poster's natty status with 100posts and saying you're team GH15? STFU and get your own identity.
asbrus no need to be afriad this is getbig not ifbb bodybuild.com steroid talk is ok. u are in a safe place an u can tlak freely about ur use doses cycle goals, etcetera.
plz no more lies.
You GH15 wanna be's kill me. Start typing in english newb! It's exceptable for GH15 to do it, that's his thing. When you do it, it just identifies you as another GH15 parrot with no skill. Calling out other poster's natty status with 100posts and saying you're team GH15? STFU and get your own identity.
L0L I'VE BEEN D0ING IT BEF0RE I EVEN J0INED GETBIG. IT IS MY IDENTITY. MY LETTER 0 IS BR0KEN.
Natural or not. Assfuck is one annoying attention whore. Worse then a big tittied blonde bimbo
L0L I'VE BEEN D0ING IT BEF0RE I EVEN J0INED GETBIG. IT IS MY IDENTITY. MY LETTER 0 IS BR0KEN.I wasnt talking to you. Defensive much? Look who I responded to bro
I wasnt talking to you. Defensive much? Look who I responded to bro
L0L I'VE BEEN D0ING IT BEF0RE I EVEN J0INED GETBIG. IT IS MY IDENTITY. MY LETTER 0 IS BR0KEN.
THE FIRST PIC IS ME BEF0RE I EVEN T0UCHED A WEIGHT AT 155 LBS AT AGE 17 AND N0 THAT'S N0T ME AFTER LIFTING F0R 3 YEARS. I HAD T0 PUT 0N S0ME MUSCLE NATURALLY RIGHT?
Aren't you like almost 30? Pretty sure iPhones haven't been around for 13 years lol.
Y0U JUST PR0VED THAT I'M N0T 30. :)
It's (iPhone's) been around since 2007.
So you're 21? 22 tops?
hate is because of lies, people who don't lie and have good physiques dont get hate
Bullshit...mr Olympia gets hated on in this fucking cesspool full of disrespectful shitheads
lol @ proving that you're not thirty, it's sad that you looked like a 17 year old at 27, really sad lol. Someone post the pics of his receding hair line please. Also you claimed to work for two years while you went to a top school... and you're still 20? So this was a different school than now? lol, nothing adds up, this is kid I mean man is so fos
AssBruise hurting a lot of feelings in this thread.
Doesn't matter if you use or not ( I think you do).....the fact that you have a very good build makes people jealous, so they hate
(http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2011/04/04/22666121/gallerypic/10Vxj7gORYIttvGl4OnJYLmtNng1l904e.jpeg)
Clearly you're not balding... CLEARLY, LOL!
You claim to be 20 also, and yet you don't work now, but you worked before, right? For two years while you went to a top univerisity? When does a 20 year old have time to do this?
Imagine that hairline on a 20 year old lol... also groink, heath is mr o, that;s why he catche shit, when you get put on a pedestal you get tomatoes thrown at you as well as flowers. GUys do not get shit for having great physiques here, they catch shit for being liars.
And look at your brother's fucking bacne and receding hairline you gonna call this a sunburn?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=393184.0;attach=427213;image)
L0L Y0U CAN CLEARLY SEE HIS HAIR THERE. RECEDING HAIRLINE? Y0U ARE TR0LLING ME N0W 0R CLEARLY INSANE.
IT'S SUNBURN F0R ME WHICH I PR0VED ALREADY. BUT F0R HIM IT'S N0T. BACK ACNE IS N0T ALWAYS C0RRELATED WITH STER0ID USE. HE'S HAD IT F0R YEARS. IT'S GENETICS. READ UP 0N IT.
http://www.acne.org/back-acne.html
AssBruise hurting a lot of feelings in this thread.
Doesn't matter if you use or not ( I think you do).....the fact that you have a very good build makes people jealous, so they hate
(http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2011/04/04/22666121/gallerypic/10Vxj7gORYIttvGl4OnJYLmtNng1l904e.jpeg)dude what is it with u in asbruses hair??
Clearly you're not balding... CLEARLY, LOL!
You claim to be 20 also, and yet you don't work now, but you worked before, right? For two years while you went to a top univerisity? When does a 20 year old have time to do this?
Imagine that hairline on a 20 year old lol... also groink, heath is mr o, that;s why he catche shit, when you get put on a pedestal you get tomatoes thrown at you as well as flowers. GUys do not get shit for having great physiques here, they catch shit for being liars.
Y0U SH0ULD ST0P N0W 0LD MAN. Y0U REALLY ARE EMBARASSING Y0URSELF. I DID W0RK YES BUT N0W QUIT T0 S0 I CAN F0CUS ALL MY ATTENTI0N 0N MY STUDIES AND GET INT0 LAW SCH00L AFTER.
ALS0, THERES NOTHING WRONG WITH TAKING PICS. YOU DO IT TOO. Y0U'VE BEC0ME S0 PATHETIC AND IT'S C0ME T0 THE P0INT WHERE N0W Y0U'RE TRYING T0 INSULT ME BY MY PIC TAKING. Y0U ARE 0NE MISERABLE S0B AND I AM REALLY GETTING T0 Y0U AND N0T EVEN TRYING L0L.
WAAAA! WAAAAA! The sp0iled little mama's b0y is having an0ther 0ne 0f his temper tantrums.
"St0p! Please st0p! WAAAA! WAAAA!"
l0l! Y0u're such a d0uche. Y0u really are.
coming from the guy that dropped 15 pounds of fat and kept all his muscle when he started juicing ::)
fixed it for ya...and BTW what's your point?you would think someone would gain alot of muscle going from natural to the cycles you're on now ???
AND Y0U ARE 40? LMA0.
Y0U ARE REALLY STARTING T0 L0SE IT. Y0U SH0ULD TRY HARDER BECAUSE APPLY85 IS CURRENTLY AHEAD 0F Y0U.
the pic above is upper body physique that seen low dosage of hormones.. possible clean in that pic but only for a few weeks. absolutely no legs, bad even for a true natural...
And look at your brother's fucking bacne and receding hairline, you gonna call this a sunburn?sad sad physiq not impress at all. cannot comparison 2 asbrus. low dosage mdrol most likly + hormonals. deltoids n traps stand out but very piss poor weak compared 2 asbrus. asbrus hormonal usuage much apparent. no need 2 compare 2 brother. brother is nothin never be a champion cannot cycle proprly. bac acne very obiouvs from usage. side effect = side effect that is truth 2 all. some affect more than other asbrus u cannot hide ur lies.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=393184.0;attach=427213;image)
sad sad physiq not impress at all. cannot comparison 2 asbrus. low dosage mdrol most likly + hormonals. deltoids n traps stand out but very piss poor weak compared 2 asbrus. asbrus hormonal usuage much apparent. no need 2 compare 2 brother. brother is nothin never be a champion cannot cycle proprly. bac acne very obiouvs from usage. side effect = side effect that is truth 2 all. some affect more than other asbrus u cannot hide ur lies.
no more lies asbrus!!
no really though, the combination of hardness, fullness and the skin tone, along with the hormonal water look are all present in that flexing picture.... i dont give a flying fuck enough to argue with you, but that is not a 100 percent natural physique... to any one thats been there its not really a guessing game.
i mean your physique is nothing to write home about, its a decent build that anyone can achieve with low dose chemicals but even though you have a pump the look of your physique does not have a fully natural look. do you understand that concept? you have a film of water on your muscles that typically people only have when on juice... slight water retention.. can be from growth also.. to be 100 percent honest you look clean in that picture, meaning someone who came off test prop or some stupid ph within the last wk
sad sad physiq not impress at all. cannot comparison 2 asbrus. low dosage mdrol most likly + hormonals. deltoids n traps stand out but very piss poor weak compared 2 asbrus. asbrus hormonal usuage much apparent. no need 2 compare 2 brother. brother is nothin never be a champion cannot cycle proprly. bac acne very obiouvs from usage. side effect = side effect that is truth 2 all. some affect more than other asbrus u cannot hide ur lies.The way you are trying to sound like GH15 makes me wanna puke. Jesus get a mind of your own, parrot.
no more lies asbrus!!
The way you are trying to sound like GH15 makes me wanna puke. Jesus get a mind of your own, parrot.there are dozens of clowns posting like this now. It's ruining this forum.
there are dozens of clowns posting like this now. It's ruining this forum.
This....enough with the GH15 impersonations. Testerona, trebolona...shut the fuck upona
The way you are trying to sound like GH15 makes me wanna puke. Jesus get a mind of your own, parrot.(http://gifsoup.com/view5/2436411/zyzz-u-mad-o.gif)