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Title: Obama to use signing statement to ignore the Constitution.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 01, 2011, 10:55:26 PM
Listen to Obama in 08 speak on signing statements and his respect for and knowledge of the Constitution.



Now this:

Obama Administration To Use ACTA Signing Statement To Defend Why It Can Ignore The Constitution In Signing ACTA

While the EU, Mexico and Switzerland are apparently not yet ready to sign ACTA, a lot of others are apparently planning to sign the document this weekend, despite questions about its legality. Because of that Sean Flynn has written up an analysis suggesting that, even if the document is signed it's not clear that the treaty can actually go into effect anywhere. Whether or not that's accurate, what I wanted to focus on was a separate tidbit of info suggesting that, while the Obama administration is very much aware of the very serious Constitutional questions raised by the signing, it's going to issue a "signing statement" that defends its right to ignore the Constitution here.

In the US, there is no plan to constitutionally ratify the agreement. Indeed, this will likely be the main focus of the US signing statement. The document will be an argument to Congress that the executive can pass this agreement alone – legally binding the US to a trade agreement without no congressional authorization – because, according to the Executive, ACTA is fully consistent with current US law.

Thus, the administration argues that there doesn't need to be a Senate review because no laws will be changed. This is, of course, wrong, since ACTA (1) does not align itself fully with US laws and (2) massively constrains Congress's ability to change certain intellectual property laws in the future. Furthermore, this basic argument is ridiculous. The President is only allowed to sign executive agreements that cover items solely under the President's mandate. Intellectual property is not. It's clearly given to Congress under the Constitution.

cont... http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110929/13395816138/obama-administration-to-use-acta-signing-statement-to-defend-why-it-can-ignore-constitution-signing-acta.shtml
Title: Re: Obama to use signing statement to ignore the Constitution.
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 02, 2011, 04:29:54 AM
Another day, same ole shit from the con law scholar.
Title: Re: Obama to use signing statement to ignore the Constitution.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 02, 2011, 04:52:37 AM
Another day, same ole shit from the con law scholar.
Obama is such a fraud.  I know most politicians lie to get in office, but Obama really took it to a new level..
Title: Re: Obama to use signing statement to ignore the Constitution.
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 02, 2011, 04:56:08 AM
Obama is such a fraud.  I know most politicians lie to get in office, but Obama really took it to a new level..

And he still does it daily!   There is not an ounce of honesty or truthfulness in anything about Obama, starting from his birth story, to his school years, till now. 

It's all a lie.
Title: Re: Obama to use signing statement to ignore the Constitution.
Post by: blacken700 on October 02, 2011, 06:55:38 AM
And he still does it daily!   There is not an ounce of honesty or truthfulness in anything about _______, starting from his birth story, to his school years, till now.                                                                                               fill in the blank

It's all a lie.
Title: Re: Obama to use signing statement to ignore the Constitution.
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on October 02, 2011, 07:08:07 AM
No one cares about the constitution anymore anyway. If they did both sides wouldn't be defending half the shit that's been going on.