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do you think will happen?
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Were all FU8KED
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Were all FU8KED
Hardly. The combustion engine has been outdated for decades, there's just no reason to move to an alternative yet. I'll bet anyone $10,000 that before we run out of oil some "new" technology will be introduced to replace it and we'll transition to it before we run out of oil. It's not exactly rocket science that we can survive without oil.
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Jay will have to retire
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Who gives a fuck about those arabs?
Hardly. The combustion engine has been outdated for decades, there's just no reason to move to an alternative yet. I'll bet anyone $10,000 that before we run out of oil some "new" technology will be introduced to replace it and we'll transition to it before we run out of oil. It's not exactly rocket science that we can survive without oil.
Exactly, the technology is available, but no need to market the shit when you can still milk the comsumers for another 20-30 years from the usual stuff.
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Someone is gonna get raped.
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do you think will happen?
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It could and will happen over time if we continue to use them for oil.
If they run out, we will then seek for the next country/region that can provide us with similar oil supplies and then inadvertently become contingent upon their influence.
Worst case scenario, we will simply use our OWN supply of oil and natural gases. We have our very own supply that we have decided to not aggressively tap into.
Also, the other possibility is to further invest into other energy supply sources. Oil is not the only possible source of energy that we can utilize.
Options are there,
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Hardly. The combustion engine has been outdated for decades, there's just no reason to move to an alternative yet. I'll bet anyone $10,000 that before we run out of oil some "new" technology will be introduced to replace it and we'll transition to it before we run out of oil. It's not exactly rocket science that we can survive without oil.
Technology has been around for a long time. Corrupt use of Intellectual Property and Corporate greed postpone transition.
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It could and will happen over time if we continue to use them for oil.
If they run out, we will then seek for the next country/region that can provide us with similar oil supplies and then inadvertently become contingent upon their influence.
Worst case scenario, we will simply use our OWN supply of oil and natural gases. We have our very own supply that we have decided to not aggressively tap into.
Also, the other possibility is to further invest into other energy supply sources. Oil is not the only possible source of energy that we can utilize.
Options are there,
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We should learn how to use whey farts for energy, then bodybuilders will be the rulers of the earth. ::) ::)
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Technology has been around for a long time. Corrupt use of Intellectual Property and Corporate greed postpone transition.
QFT.
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The blood of the Jew
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The blood of the Jew
they'd set up their own blood banks, and dominate the market, crafty sumbitches
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Who gives a fuck about those arabs?
Exactly, the technology is available, but no need to market the shit when you can still milk the comsumers for another 20-30 years from the usual stuff.
sounds about right to me.
there's probably some shit in a lab that we'll get out when we need it.
Hell, didn't tesla have some technology that would 'broadcast' electricity, and that was 100 years ago?
If it didn't mean we've have our enemies fueling their weapons to use against us, and the profit motive, i bet we could easily have free elecricity spread out, and everything we have would run on that, and not gas. but hey, oil is big money, let's roll with it.
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Dubai is already running out of oil so they're trying to reposition the country as a venue for sports. Not sure how that will work out.
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do you think will happen?
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Won't give a shit. Will be off the grid generating my own power
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Dubai is already running out of oil so they're trying to reposition the country as a venue for sports. Not sure how that will work out.
Unless they get rid of their shitty religion it's never gonna happen.
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Won't give a shit. Will be off the grid generating my own power
When the zombies come to eat your flesh, how will you hide? ???
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I've seen people make the news who can build their car to run on electricity. It wasn't for long distances but it worked. Same with Solar power. But the fuel companies are huge business and won't let these things take off. I am sure there is a fuel alternative out there they already have made that will 'cost more' for whatever reason they make up.
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Won't give a shit. Will be off the grid generating my own power
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I've seen people make the news who can build their car to run on electricity. It wasn't for long distances but it worked. Same with Solar power. But the fuel companies are huge business and won't let these things take off. I am sure there is a fuel alternative out there they already have made that will 'cost more' for whatever reason they make up.
i may be way off the mark, but i always thought that the first car company to go in a non-oil direction would just dominate. and yeah, i've had that argument with people who thought ethanol or water or whatever would be a 'cheaper' alternative. have fun paying $4 a gallon for water, the second it becomes a real commodity
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do you think will happen?
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They will invest in solar energy. Nice weather for it over there.
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When the zombies come to eat your flesh, how will you hide? ???
Laugh if you wish but let me tell you something. Why go and be latched on to the power companies when the technology is there right in front of you to do it yourself.
You can get a brand new biodiesel generator for under 800 dollars that can produce 40 gallons of fuel at a time and all you would have to do is drive around to any fast food restaurant and offer to collect their waste product which they will be more than happy to do rather than pay a disposal fee. That's free fucking gas for your car and truck and other shit you run. Solar Panels from China have flooded the market and you can get those for cheap along with wind turbines generators. All of this is pennies on the dollar and easy as fuck to hook up.
Now I'm saying that everything can be replaced entirely but if you're doing this, then you're putting a lot more fucking beer money back into your pocket. There are lots of people out there doing this and they are set for life without having to hit the jackpot or the lottery. I realized a long time ago when I was laid off from Alltel that your life isn't worth shit to these corporation and you're nothing but disposable trash to them. That's why I've been working hard to do the same thing and take myself out of the equation of being another corporate bitch.
I'm doing what I have to do and if I were you, I'd follow suit before the world really goes to shit
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Slut who caused that will be stoned >:( >:(
PS. This is what I will do then 8) 8) 8)
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Dubai is already running out of oil so they're trying to reposition the country as a venue for sports. Not sure how that will work out.
Not just sports, but tourism in general - Dubai is fast running out of oil and compared to the other Emirates like Abu Dhabi, they've hardly got anything left. Trouble is they've been screwed over by the economic downturn and the banks are no longer lending to them so as they can finish their building projects - the place is just one huge construction site at the moment.
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Hardly. The combustion engine has been outdated for decades, there's just no reason to move to an alternative yet. I'll bet anyone $10,000 that before we run out of oil some "new" technology will be introduced to replace it and we'll transition to it before we run out of oil. It's not exactly rocket science that we can survive without oil.
Isn't it exactly "rocket science", though? ;D
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Pretty sure the Delorium ran on just garbage
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Laugh if you wish but let me tell you something. Why go and be latched on to the power companies when the technology is there right in front of you to do it yourself.
You can get a brand new biodiesel generator for under 800 dollars that can produce 40 gallons of fuel at a time and all you would have to do is drive around to any fast food restaurant and offer to collect their waste product which they will be more than happy to do rather than pay a disposal fee. That's free fucking gas for your car and truck and other shit you run. Solar Panels from China have flooded the market and you can get those for cheap along with wind turbines generators. All of this is pennies on the dollar and easy as fuck to hook up.
Now I'm saying that everything can be replaced entirely but if you're doing this, then you're putting a lot more fucking beer money back into your pocket. There are lots of people out there doing this and they are set for life without having to hit the jackpot or the lottery. I realized a long time ago when I was laid off from Alltel that your life isn't worth shit to these corporation and you're nothing but disposable trash to them. That's why I've been working hard to do the same thing and take myself out of the equation of being another corporate bitch.
I'm doing what I have to do and if I were you, I'd follow suit before the world really goes to shit
Wow, I'm agreeing with you.
The thing I've done was to buy a house (and pay it off) a few miles outside a big city. The grounds that came with it is big enough to keep livestock should I need it. I certainly plant vegetables and considering have a well dug for just in case. I've been looking into solar panels but it's very expensive here in Europe. I'm not off the grid yet and won't be for another few years, but if the worst happen, I'm certainly better prepared than most.
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We've always managed (in the first world) to use technology to outpace Malthusian crunches but I don't think we'll get away with it forever. For oil specifically, I don't know if they can mimic it in all its applications. Given the money involved, there's going to be plenty of motivation. Hopefully that's the direction things will go. I doubt the world would put up with anyone, you know, starting a war for it or anything.
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Laugh if you wish but let me tell you something. Why go and be latched on to the power companies when the technology is there right in front of you to do it yourself.
You can get a brand new biodiesel generator for under 800 dollars that can produce 40 gallons of fuel at a time and all you would have to do is drive around to any fast food restaurant and offer to collect their waste product which they will be more than happy to do rather than pay a disposal fee. That's free fucking gas for your car and truck and other shit you run. Solar Panels from China have flooded the market and you can get those for cheap along with wind turbines generators. All of this is pennies on the dollar and easy as fuck to hook up.
Now I'm saying that everything can be replaced entirely but if you're doing this, then you're putting a lot more fucking beer money back into your pocket. There are lots of people out there doing this and they are set for life without having to hit the jackpot or the lottery. I realized a long time ago when I was laid off from Alltel that your life isn't worth shit to these corporation and you're nothing but disposable trash to them. That's why I've been working hard to do the same thing and take myself out of the equation of being another corporate bitch.
I'm doing what I have to do and if I were you, I'd follow suit before the world really goes to shit
This might possibly work for some eager folks that are willing to take some time out to generate their own power via unorthodox means (Heck, the Amish do a lot of things we never consider). Seems a bit extreme in a very "end-of-the-world" kind of way, but hey if you find that you can generate an inexpensive energy source, why not try?
That being said, some of us don't own a house with substantial acreage Vince. For instance, my husband and I own a condo in the heart of New York City. That idea would not work for us, since we can't possibly rewire the way we retrieve energy through our building.
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This might possibly work for some eager folks that are willing to take some time out to generate their own power via unorthodox means (Heck, the Amish do a lot of things we never consider). Seems a bit extreme in a very "end-of-the-world" kind of way, but hey if you find that you can generate an inexpensive energy source, why not try?
That being said, some of us don't own a house with substantial acreage Vince. For instance, my husband and I own a condo in the heart of New York City. That idea would not work for us, since we can't possibly rewire the way we retrieve energy through our building.
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:o :o :o
You=loaded!
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:o :o :o
You=loaded!
Just a pair of hardworking, homosexual men (free of kids) who are both well situated in the Law and Financial industries.
Also, it doesn't hurt that we don't spend lavishly. We purchase foods via wholesale distributors. We have cell phones provided by our respective companies. Our internet service is provided by my husband's firm (free of charge). Our electricity bill is pretty low since we are not fond of using an air conditioner or leaving appliances plugged in. We also only have basic channels through our cable provider with the exception of HBO. I can't miss an episode of Real Time with Bill Maher.
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This might possibly work for some eager folks that are willing to take some time out to generate their own power via unorthodox means (Heck, the Amish do a lot of things we never consider). Seems a bit extreme in a very "end-of-the-world" kind of way, but hey if you find that you can generate an inexpensive energy source, why not try?
That being said, some of us don't own a house with substantial acreage Vince. For instance, my husband and I own a condo in the heart of New York City. That idea would not work for us, since we can't possibly rewire the way we retrieve energy through our building.
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Well, you can't go 100% in your area but there are things you can do . You have a window somewhere so you can place a high watt solar panel outside your home with tracker to move with the sun to draw in more power. You can install high efficiency lights, you can get an LCD TV.
But yeah, you're pretty much stuck for the most part as long as you're in that area. But for the millions of others who have a backyard and a patio or roof, they can easily do it. But don't think what I'm proposing is extreme because technology allows anyone to do what I'm saying for practically nothing. You can get someone to set everything up if need be and you don't have to give up the luxuries of modern day living. A garden is not that hard to set up. You plant the seeds, and water it with a garden hose and spray for bugs and that's it. Fresh veggies from the garden have a taste that you simply can't get in any store. Over the summer, whenever I was working outside and hungry I would go to the garden, pluck off a cucumber, sprinkle it with sea salt and have a nice little snack. You can grow veggies with minimal space without even having a garden
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Lol@ thinking we actually could run out. We have an endless supply my friend.
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Then finally the usa can detach its mouth from around the penis of saudi king. What a sad day it will be. ::)
All we gotta do then, is shit out israels fist from our asshole and we ll be all set.
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You can get a brand new biodiesel generator for under 800 dollars that can produce 40 gallons of fuel at a time and all you would have to do is drive around to any fast food restaurant and offer to collect their waste product which they will be more than happy to do rather than pay a disposal fee. That's free fucking gas for your car and truck and other shit you run. Solar Panels from China have flooded the market and you can get those for cheap along with wind turbines generators. All of this is pennies on the dollar and easy as fuck to hook up.
That's not actually true, and besides, even if it were, local codes probably mandate the installation must be done by a licensed electrician. Even when you do live in a trailer...
That's why I've been working hard to do the same thing and take myself out of the equation of being another corporate bitch.
Yeah, I'm sure the fees for the shopping cart software must place a big financial burden, month in, month out.
I'm doing what I have to do and if I were you, I'd follow suit before the world really goes to shit
You really, honestly believe that? I'll be happy to sell you disaster insurance. You can come up with the scenarios that you're worried about and I can come up with a price. We'll sign a contract and everything. Unless you're worried about being a corporate bitch...
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Just a pair of hardworking, homosexual men (free of kids) who are both well situated in the Law and Financial industries.
Also, it doesn't hurt that we don't spend lavishly. We purchase foods via wholesale distributors. We have cell phones provided by our respective companies. Our internet service is provided by my husband's firm (free of charge). Our electricity bill is pretty low since we are not fond of using an air conditioner or leaving appliances plugged in. We also only have basic channels through our cable provider with the exception of HBO. I can't miss an episode of Real Time with Bill Maher.
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Congrats on being amazingly frugal and cheap
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Jay will have to retire
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Congrats on being amazingly frugal and cheap
It's part of our genetic coding as Jews.
Also, remember.... It's not how much you make, but how much you save.
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That's not actually true, and besides, even if it were, local codes probably mandate the installation must be done by a licensed electrician. Even when you do live in a trailer...
Licensing isn't hard for solar and wind panel setups. Even then, its no big deal in the grand scheme of things
Yeah, I'm sure the fees for the shopping cart software must place a big financial burden, month in, month out.
A bill is still a bill.
You really, honestly believe that? I'll be happy to sell you disaster insurance. You can come up with the scenarios that you're worried about and I can come up with a price. We'll sign a contract and everything. Unless you're worried about being a corporate bitch...
You don't have to wait for a disaster because its already there. Look how many people right now are losing their homes because they lost their jobs. Look how high the price of food, gas, electric, etc has gone up from inflation. Look at the foreclosures. Look at how many people are sitting in at Wall Street. Even if nothing happens, do you want to be unprepared???
The fact is that I've seen what's around me and I don't like the way things are. All of our appliances, equipment, computers, etc only work as long as the power company is operational. Once the power gets knocked out, we literally are reduced to nothing but glorified straw huts and everyone's plan of action is to call and complain to the power company and beg for them to fix things up as soon as possible.
People no longer have any real survival skills. They don't know how to gather food, get clean water, stay warm, or do shit. People don't know how to preserve and refrigerate food without electricity or anything. Not even a 100 years ago, people had the ability to live and survive without electricity and now they don't. They don't know shit. Maybe the world won't go to crap....but what if it does...even for a couple months...are you going to be ready or are you going to piss your pants and hope Obama or some other president or politican is going to take care of you???
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Well, you can't go 100% in your area but there are things you can do . You have a window somewhere so you can place a high watt solar panel outside your home with tracker to move with the sun to draw in more power. You can install high efficiency lights, you can get an LCD TV.
But yeah, you're pretty much stuck for the most part as long as you're in that area. But for the millions of others who have a backyard and a patio or roof, they can easily do it.
I realize that science probably isn't your strongest suit, but here it goes.
Solar panels are about 20% efficient, and produce about 12 to 14 watts per hour per square foot. Let's assume a really fancy solar panel that can generate 20W/sqft on a window that is 3 feet by 3 feet. The panel would still only generate (20 W/hr/sqft) * (9 sqft) = 180 W/hr. That's not enough to run a microwave even if the sun is shining really really brightly.
But let's not worry about details. Maybe you want to run a small radio. And let's be generous, and say that this window faces the sun 8 hours a day -- every day, regardless of season -- and that the panel can pump out a constant 180 W/hr for those 8 hours. This magical system will still only produce less that 530 kWh per year.
Remember, that the average American home uses ~11000 kWh per year, at an average cost of $0.12/kWh. With those prices, the generated electricity from our magical system is worth about $65 per year.
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It's part of our genetic coding as Jews.
Also, remember.... It's not how much you make, but how much you save.
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Thanks for the wisdom, champ.
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People no longer have any real survival skills. They don't know how to gather food, get clean water, stay warm, or do shit. People don't know how to preserve and refrigerate food without electricity or anything. Not even a 100 years ago, people had the ability to live and survive without electricity and now they don't. They don't know shit. Maybe the world won't go to crap....but what if it does...even for a couple months...are you going to be ready or are you going to piss your pants and hope Obama or some other president or politican is going to take care of you???
If the world goes to shit -- even for a couple of months -- I doubt being able to run a portable radio and a medium power light bulb when the sun is shining will be that big a deal.
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It's part of our genetic coding as Jews.
Also, remember.... It's not how much you make, but how much you save.
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C'mon dude, you're smarter than that.
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When they run out of oil they will be crushed with some kind of HAARP weapon that will knock them back to the 18th century. Then the American government will let whats left of the area become a cess pool of terrorists(Not really but that is what they will tell the rest of the world to keep it fearful)
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C'mon dude, you're smarter than that.
A little light humor Dei, don't take it to heart friend ;)
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Jews like you are really helping out the UsA. I love jews and israel. Lets donate another 5 billion in tax payer money to an entire nation of frugal self centered "lets use the company cellphone to save money" types. ::)
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If the world goes to shit -- even for a couple of months -- I doubt being able to run a portable radio and a medium power light bulb when the sun is shining will be that big a deal.
That's where your thinking is wrong and my plans are more than just powering a few light bulbs and radios. I'm basically going for luxury living without the high price and retiring with a constant and steady postive cash flow...being able to live large and save a ton of money.
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Maybe then we can finally bomb the whole region into thousands of square miles of glorious ruin.
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That's where your thinking is wrong and my plans are more than just powering a few light bulbs and radios. I'm basically going for luxury living without the high price and retiring with a constant and steady postive cash flow...being able to live large and save a ton of money.
As I said, I understand math isn't your strong suit, but seriously... the average cost of 1kWh is under $0.15. How exactly does that figure into your plans?
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we all become like evan centopani and live in a glass house
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we all be come like evan centopani and live in a glass house
Perfect for posing!
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Ron Poop would let them run wild like animals and not do a thing about it.
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Haven't you guys seen the movie The Road Warrior.....that's what will happen.....good times.
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Haven't you guys seen the movie The Road Warrior.....that's what will happen.....good times.
There's a book about this too, "The Road". It's supposed to be really good but I thought it was shite.
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sounds about right to me.
there's probably some shit in a lab that we'll get out when we need it.
Hell, didn't tesla have some technology that would 'broadcast' electricity, and that was 100 years ago?
If it didn't mean we've have our enemies fueling their weapons to use against us, and the profit motive, i bet we could easily have free elecricity spread out, and everything we have would run on that, and not gas. but hey, oil is big money, let's roll with it.
Tesla had a lot o fshit, plus the use of magnets for energy///
And then there is your own Coral Castle in your backyard...how was that made?
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I realize that science probably isn't your strongest suit, but here it goes.
Solar panels are about 20% efficient, and produce about 12 to 14 watts per hour per square foot. Let's assume a really fancy solar panel that can generate 20W/sqft on a window that is 3 feet by 3 feet. The panel would still only generate (20 W/hr/sqft) * (9 sqft) = 180 W/hr. That's not enough to run a microwave even if the sun is shining really really brightly.
But let's not worry about details. Maybe you want to run a small radio. And let's be generous, and say that this window faces the sun 8 hours a day -- every day, regardless of season -- and that the panel can pump out a constant 180 W/hr for those 8 hours. This magical system will still only produce less that 530 kWh per year.
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Remember, that the average American home uses ~11000 kWh per year, at an average cost of $0.12/kWh. With those prices, the generated electricity from our magical system is worth about $65 per year.
Solar panels are a lot more efficient than before and they generate way more power than just 12-14 watts per hour. You obviously should study a bit more into solar power because you're almost a decade behind in things. In addition, setting up your own system also means you have to do things different in terms of the type of house you live in.
Listen to what I'm saying, I'm not talking just about just solar...I'm talking about a combination of solar, wind, propane, and biodiesel fuels for living needs. There's too much information to type up on this, you'll just have to do the research for yourself.
If you want to learn more, visit www.simplesolarhomestead ing.com. This guy knows his shit.
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Solar panels are a lot more efficient than before and they generate way more power than just 12-14 watts per hour. You obviously should study a bit more into solar power because you're almost a decade behind in things. In addition, setting up your own system also means you have to do things different in terms of the type of house you live in.
The commercially available solar panels are hovering at that point. If you think differently, by all means, provide some links.
Listen to what I'm saying, I'm not talking just about just solar...I'm talking about a combination of solar, wind, propane, and biodiesel fuels for living needs. There's too much information to type up on this, you'll just have to do the research for yourself.
Really? I must have misread your post earlier, where you said: "I'm basically going for luxury living [...] and retiring with a constant and steady postive cash flow." If you think a few dozen square feet of solar panels on your roof and a pound of grease from a McDonalds deep frier will translate to luxury living and provide you with a steady and positive cash flow you're either crazy or insane.
If you want to learn more, visit www.simplesolarhomestead ing.com. This guy knows his shit.
Forgive me for being skeptical. After all, this is some random guy on the Internet, whose only credentials seem to be posting pictures of a postage stamp-sized hut, and who uses really large fonts to sell me e-books.
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The commercially available solar panels are hovering at that point. If you think differently, by all means, provide some links.
Really? I must have misread your post earlier, where you said: "I'm basically going for luxury living [...] and retiring with a constant and steady postive cash flow." If you think a few dozen square feet of solar panels on your roof and a pound of grease from a McDonalds deep frier will translate to luxury living and provide you with a steady and positive cash flow you're either crazy or insane.
Forgive me for being skeptical. After all, this is some random guy on the Internet, whose only credentials seem to be posting pictures of a postage stamp-sized hut, and who uses really large fonts to sell me e-books.
You can go on Ebay and take advantage of purchasing the Chinese made solar panels. As far as luxery living is concerned, if you're not racking your brains trying to pay your bills and you're able to live the same as before or even better, then I think that's a luxury in itself. Producing 40 gallons of biodiesel (one load) can run a power generator for 160 hours or you can drive about 600 miles in a truck at 20mpg.
And as far as the "random guy" is concerned, he's an author and engineer of one of the most popular homesteading books around which contains dozens of plans and instructions including different types of homesteads. No one has to go and build the same house as he has but he did so to show just how inexpensive it can be.
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Jay will have to retire
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Peak oil is obviously real it's a matter of when not if, and 30 years out is far longer than expected. Alot of people especially in the industry believe production has already peaked. I really hate going into this topic though because ADD tends to prevail.
But it's real simple, there are 3/4 scenarios that are somewhat realistic.
1) there's a global financial crisis within the next 2/3 years, outbreak of war, this causes a break down in world trade, where everyone is hording what they got, causing a breakdown in the food supply, as food growers can't get oil, metal suppliers can't get food, oil suppliers can't get enough industrial materials(metals etc) to produce, and urban centers turn into warzones, which causes about 90 percent of the worlds population to die.
2) Oil starts a gradual decline, the worlds economies contract at a rate say about 1-2 percent per year, and basically we start reversing all the trends of the last 200 years. I.E. 2050 looks like 1970, 290 looks like 1930 etc. Populations decline shrinking down to 4 billion within a century, technology turns to shit, as the economies of scale work in reverse, and techs become shittier and at the same time becoming more expensive, demand falls and the superconductor industry, slips to shit(moore's law in reverse)
3) Things stay about the same, except the globe transitions to green tech. On average the world will stay about the same but get more balanced. The world economy becomes resource driven as it was in the past, with countries valued by their ability to produce, not their ability to consume. This in turn causes places like japan to turn to absolute shit, and places that are resource rich like africa to thrive. The biggest headaches for us, is were a society that is 5 percent of the population and burns 75 percent of the energy. Going to our respective, 20-5 percent share will be a massive undertaking, and require america to be redesigned, with no cars, no suburds, no free ways etc. :-\
4) A miracle happens and fusion techs become a reality with the next 20 years. The worlds economy experiences a new wavee of industrialization, that hasn't been seen in over 100 years.
Now the odds, of the option 1 and 4 are about 5 percent each. Most likely I think it will be option 2 or 3. Nothing amazing, but either way america is gonna have some hard time ahead. :-\