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Truth.
Cheney: Obama owes apology for security criticism of Bush administration
By the CNN Wire Staff
updated 11:53 AM EST, Sun October 2, 2011
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Former Vice President Dick Cheney praised the Obama administration Sunday for using a drone strike to kill American-born Muslim cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, but said President Barack Obama should now apologize for criticizing former President George W. Bush's actions against suspected terrorists.
Al-Awlaki -- an American whose fluency in English and technology made him one of the top terrorist recruiters in the world -- was killed Friday in Yemen, according to U.S. and Yemeni government officials.
The strike also killed Samir Khan, an American of Pakistani origin, and two others who were in the same vehicle as al-Awlaki, said the U.S. official, who was briefed by the CIA. Khan specialized in computer programming for al Qaeda and authored the terror network's online magazine, Inspire.
"I think it was a very good strike. I think it was justified," Cheney told CNN's Candy Crowley on "State of the Union." But "I'm waiting for the administration to go back and correct something they said two years ago when they criticized us for 'overreacting' to the events of 9/11."
Obama "in effect said that we had walked away from (America's) ideals," Cheney argued. "I think he did tremendous damage. I think he slandered the nation and I think he owes an apology to the American people."
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The Obama administration has "clearly ... moved in the direction of taking robust action when they feel it is justified," Cheney said.
Republican critics of the administration claim it is hypocritical for Obama to approve the killing of Americans without due process while criticizing Bush officials for signing off on the use of so-called "enhanced interrogation techniques" such waterboarding.
The use of such techniques has been banned by Obama.
Former Rep. Jane Harman, D-California, told CNN that she believes many of Obama's critiques of the Bush White House -- most notably its secrecy -- are valid.
"I don't think the Obama administration should be repeating" those mistakes, Harman said. "I think the debate about the legal grounds (for counterterrorism strategy) should be more in the open," she said. In particular, "we should have a legal framework around our interrogation and detention policies far more than we do now."
Harman, a former top member of the House Intelligence and Homeland Security committees, also cautioned about the need for strict guidelines in the use of drone strikes, which have increased under Obama's watch. Critics of drone strikes argue that they undermine the U.S. cause by killing innocent civilians, infringing on the sovereignty of other nations, and generating sympathy for al Qaeda and other extremist organizations.
"We could abuse this program," Harman said. "We've got to have a counter-narrative (to dissuade potential terrorists). We've got to live our values."
Retired Gen. Michael Hayden, a former CIA director under George W. Bush, largely dismissed Harman's warning, telling CNN that critics of drone strikes "greatly exaggerate" their collateral damage.
The strikes are arguably the most critical weapon in the U.S. arsenal against al Qaeda, Hayden said.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/02/politics/cheney-obama-terror/index.html
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and Cheney should apologize to the citizens of the USA for not getting/killing OBL
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And he should apologize for being part of the team that pitched the false WMD's as the reason we invaded another country unprovoked.
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and Cheney should apologize to the citizens of the USA for not getting/killing OBL
And he should apologize for being part of the team that pitched the false WMD's as the reason we invaded another country unprovoked.
Truth.
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And he should apologize for being part of the team that pitched the false WMD's as the reason we invaded another country unprovoked.
yea, definitely think Darth Cheney has a lot to apologize for... But those kind of apologies would be admitting some serious crimes...
Oh dear, done it again, went and broke skip's rules lol... ;D
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yea, definitely think Darth Cheney has a lot to apologise for... But those kind of apologies would be admitting some serious crimes...
Oh dear, done it again, went and broke skip's rules lol... ;D
hehehe
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Cheney should apologize for shooting that man in the face.
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I'm still waiting for Cheney to apologize for outing a CIA agent
Here's Cheney with some advise for Obama - ignore public opinion (and Cheney is now part of the public)
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I'm still waiting for Cheney to apologize for outing a CIA agent
Here's Cheney with some advise for Obama - ignore public opinion (and Cheney is now part of the public)
that's a big one right there.
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Still waiting for Cheney to apologize for defying the Laws of Gravity and Thermal Dynamics on 9/11
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Cheney should apologize for being born
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President Downgrade, like all far-leftists, is nothing more than a bloodthirsty warmonger.
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Yeah, cheney really tough dude..
going out of his way to WHINE about how SOMEONE OWES US AN APOLOGY.
GMAFB. He must be on some seriously pussifying drugs for his heart. Obama played politics and promised the opposite of whatever was in office. Everybody does it. Then he kept shit the same, like everybody does. Cheney spends 30+ years in DC, and he doesn't see this?
Sorry, but I have always seen Cheney as a tough SOB with a lot of brains who subscribes to an amoral POV because every country needs one of those guys. Begging for pity like this - Obama should say sorry - is pathetic. You pride yourself on being the bad guy, Mr Cheney, and history will admire your balls. Don't sully your rep by standing up wearing a 'Victim" t-shirt demanding apologies.
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Yeah, cheney really tough dude..
going out of his way to WHINE about how SOMEONE OWES US AN APOLOGY.
GMAFB. He must be on some seriously pussifying drugs for his heart. Obama played politics and promised the opposite of whatever was in office. Everybody does it. Then he kept shit the same, like everybody does. Cheney spends 30+ years in DC, and he doesn't see this?
Sorry, but I have always seen Cheney as a tough SOB with a lot of brains who subscribes to an amoral POV because every country needs one of those guys. Begging for pity like this - Obama should say sorry - is pathetic. You pride yourself on being the bad guy, Mr Cheney, and history will admire your balls. Don't sully your rep by standing up wearing a 'Victim" t-shirt demanding apologies.
Hahaha, one Cheney comment is all it takes to twist your official Downgrade '12 boxers in a knot. We all know Downgrade is a hypocrite so you can just stop now. He expanded almost all of Bush's anti-terrorist policies, launched us into another half dozen conflicts and is nothing more than a bloodthirsty, mass-murdering warmonger....much like Cheney.
Your God is no different from one of the men you loathe. Let that sink in.
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obama sucks, is a hypocrite, sleeps with dudes, clubs baby seals. I concede all of this.
But I"m right. Cheney is the poster child for all that is Republican Balls. Get Shit Done. Do what needs to be done, kill whatever leaders and bad guys. Cheney will be admired by history for his balls.
And he's whining about being owed a fcking apology? Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. v
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Downgrade is a hypocrite. He should apologize and admit to the world that he's just as much of a bloodthirsty warmonger as Cheney is. Then he should point out the 100+ million murdered by leftists like himself in the last century.
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Downgrade is a hypocrite. He should apologize and admit to the world that he's just as much of a bloodthirsty warmonger as Cheney is. Then he should point out the 100+ million murdered by leftists like himself in the last century.
I agree - Obama is nothing more than Bush x 2. More of the same.
And sure, I'd expect obama to be whining in 2016 about how that mean ol' Mitt said nasty things about him in the 2012 race. See Obama is a pussy. People who demand apologies 3 years later are pussies. Now cheney is acting like one.
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Tea Party Dictionary
Enhanced Interrogations = Torture
Job Creators = Wealthy And Rich
Birth Certificate = Government Conspiracy
Obama = The AntiChrist, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Marxist, Communist, Socialist Muslim, Arab, Kenyan,...pick one... ;D
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Cheney, Bush, Obama...what's the difference?
"We in Kazakhstan very much admire your mighty warlord, Barack Hussein Obama. May he drink the blood of all the men, women and children of Libya!"
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7e/Borat_in_Cologne.jpg/230px-Borat_in_Cologne.jpg)
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obama sucks, is a hypocrite, sleeps with dudes, clubs baby seals. I concede all of this.
But I"m right. Cheney is the poster child for all that is Republican Balls. Get Shit Done. Do what needs to be done, kill whatever leaders and bad guys. Cheney will be admired by history for his balls.
And he's whining about being owed a fcking apology? Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. Pussy. v
i agree with you that he shouldn't have said that but you can't really blame him. i'd like to see how anyone on this board would handle themselves after being called a murderer for 8 years by the left and seeing them purposefully ignore Obama committing the same act. I bet if he had another chance at it he wouldn't have said it.
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Tea Party Dictionary
Enhanced Interrogations = Torture
Job Creators = Wealthy And Rich
Birth Certificate = Government Conspiracy
Obama = The AntiChrist, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Marxist, Communist, Socialist Muslim, Arab, Kenyan,...pick one... ;D
Obama doesn't even bother with torture, he orders a hit on a guy and gets it done. PERIOD. you like that about him right?
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i agree with you that he shouldn't have said that but you can't really blame him. i'd like to see how anyone on this board would handle themselves after being called a murderer for 8 years by the left and seeing them purposefully ignore Obama committing the same act. I bet if he had another chance at it he wouldn't have said it.
Cheney DID slaughter hundreds of thousands of iraqis for long-term us interests.
I don't think he minded the nickname ONE BIT while doing it. Remember "So?", his comment about all the points tha anti-war crowd made?
Cheney just didn't give a fck. but NOW he does. He changed. Balls clipped.. I blame the meds.
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Cheney DID slaughter hundreds of thousands of iraqis for long-term us interests.
I don't think he minded the nickname ONE BIT while doing it. Remember "So?", his comment about all the points tha anti-war crowd made?
Cheney just didn't give a fck. but NOW he does. He changed. Balls clipped.. I blame the meds.
he eats babies for breakfast too. after he rapes them. twice.
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Obama doesn't even bother with torture, he orders a hit on a guy and gets it done. PERIOD. you like that about him right?
I like the Obama doesn't fuck around with things when it comes to terrorists. Hell, he had Bin Laden killed overnight and dumped his ass out in the middle of the ocean in a bag filled with cement block before the sun rose. No showboating or anything....just take em out and move on.
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I like the Obama doesn't fuck around with things when it comes to terrorists. Hell, he had Bin Laden killed overnight and dumped his ass out in the middle of the ocean in a bag filled with cement block before the sun rose. No showboating or anything....just take em out and move on.
"We in Kazakhstan very much support your mighty warlord's, Barack Hussein Obama's War Of Terror!
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7e/Borat_in_Cologne.jpg/230px-Borat_in_Cologne.jpg)
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Obama doesn't even bother with torture, he orders a hit on a guy and gets it done. PERIOD. you like that about him right?
yes. leadership.
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yes. leadership.
except when bush did it right?
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Cheney and Obama should be put in jail for treason.
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yes. leadership.
it is amazing how one guy is a "murderer" and the other is a "leader" for doing the exact same thing. talk about a political party having a stranglehold on people's minds. it's seriously disturbing.
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Cheney doesn't deserve sh*t.
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except when bush did it right?
hahahahahaahh!!!
Yeah, torture is just terrible, immoral and doesn't reflect who we are as americans. Blasting them until kingdom come, like Bush ordered morst of the time during his presidendy, is much better.
Bush killed thousands=genocidal tyrant, should be in prison
Obama is killing thousands=hero
Stupid liberals.
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except when bush did it right?
did bush get OBL ? or others ?