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MANCHESTER, N.H. — Texas Gov. Rick Perry said Saturday that he would consider sending U.S. troops into Mexico to combat drug-related violence and stop it from spilling into the southern United States.
“It may require our military in Mexico,” Perry said in answer to a question about the growing threat of drug violence along the southern border. Perry offered no details, and a spokesman, Robert Black, said afterward that sending troops to Mexico would be merely one way of putting an end to the exploding cartel-related violence in the region.
Black said Perry’s intention is to work with the Mexican government, but he declined to specify whether Perry is amenable to sending troops into Mexico with or without the country’s consent.
“If he were president he would do what it takes,” Black said. “The governor said, ‘I’m going to work with the Mexican government to do what’s necessary.’ ”
The remarks prompted speculation about exactly what Perry meant and the implications of his remarks for the nation’s relationship with Mexico.
The issue also opens the door to scrutiny of Perry’s position on U.S. military intervention generally. The governor has criticized President Obama’s management of military operations in Afghanistan and elsewhere; on Saturday, at the same campaign appearance where Perry made his remarks about Mexico, he promised never to send troops into another country without a detailed plan for winning and withdrawing quickly.
The issue is a timely one, with stories of rampant drug-related violence being reported out of Mexico — including the dumping of 35 tortured bodies last week onto a street in the Gulf Coast state of Veracruz. In addition, Mexican President Felipe Calderon pleaded with the United States last month for more assistance combating the drug cartels. At the U.N. General Assembly, Calderon said “consumer nations” such as the United States, the world’s largest consumer of illegal drugs, must do more to address the violence.
cont... http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/perry-send-us-troops-to-mexico-to-fight-drug-wars/2011/10/01/gIQA2qDGDL_story.html
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the scary thing here...
this isn't just Palin talking out of her ass from Glen Rice's dorm room couch.
This is the governor of a border state. Right in the middle of it.
I put a lot of gravity into what he says here. As president, he would be more likely than others to do it.
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But hey... the nation is smart enough to put their faith in a man of these words and actions - along with all his other comments - aren't they?
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But hey... the nation is smart enough to put their faith in a man of these words and actions - along with all his other comments - aren't they?
You voted for obama - you should STFU and stop digging at this point as far as dumb politicians go.
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so rick perry's plan...
1) Send troops into mexico
2) educate, feed, support illegals
3) allow illegals to stay
4) Use these illegals as cheap labor, as he did in TX
Wow, it was conspiracy theory fodder when in 2007 he met and helped plan the globalist agenda. Sounds like that's what we'll get with him as president.
I'm not so sure it's a bad thing actually.
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You voted for obama - you should STFU and stop digging at this point as far as dumb politicians go.
Yeah, I voted for Obama because I was voting against even DUMBER politicians who were on the ticket at the time.
Just like the rest of the nation did.
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Yeah, I voted for Obama because I was voting against even DUMBER politicians who were on the ticket at the time.
Just like the rest of the nation did.
remember mccain knocking over applesauce and stewing at that table on the sat AM after he picked palin? He was PISSED!
you had so many problems... you coudn't make that up. He disagreed with his campaign continually. He was pledging allegience to so many special interests that he couldn't keep track.
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remember mccain knocking over applesauce and stewing at that table on the sat AM after he picked palin? He was PISSED!
you had so many problems... you coudn't make that up. He disagreed with his campaign continually. He was pledging allegience to so many special interests that he couldn't keep track.
For real. He finally got the nod to run and you could almost see him shitting his own pants when The Machine brought out Palin to be his VP choice. He knew his own party had fucked him over again.
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For real. He finally got the nod to run and you could almost see him shitting his own pants when The Machine brought out Palin to be his VP choice. He knew his own party had fucked him over again.
he wanted liebermann so badly.
"Whatever happens in the election, obama or I will continue following our marching orders..."
Remember when he said that at the 08 dinner/roast? Really said a lot there.
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I used to think the McCain/Palin ticket was the biggest joke in political history. However, it could easily be topped by Rick/Michelle
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I used to think the McCain/Palin ticket was the biggest joke in political history. However, it could easily be topped by Rick/Michelle
It's gonna be so funny.
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I hope before Perry sends troops into Mexico, he makes sure CIA and any other agencies involved with the cartels get out of the way lol...
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I hope before Perry sends troops into Mexico, he makes sure CIA and any other agencies involved with the cartels get out of the way lol...
mods, please move to conspiracy theory board. we're the good guys. we woudnt' do that.
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So let me get this straight..u have a problem with sending troops into Mexico, which would serve to protect the border and our national sovereignty. Yet some you had no problem going into Libya. Mexico is a failed state. I can make a better case for sending in troops there then anything we did in Iraq. I lived on the border. Mexico is a shithole. The cartels are out of control.
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So let me get this straight..u have a problem with sending troops into Mexico, which would serve to protect the border and our national sovereignty. Yet some you had no problem going into Libya. Mexico is a failed state. I can make a better case for sending in troops there then anything we did in Iraq. I lived on the border. Mexico is a shithole. The cartels are out of control.
Booommm
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Booommm
hhhmmmm - wonder why violence escalated so much.
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I know Holder did this shit and I know the idiots at the ATF went along or were..well idiots but my question is this. At the height of the Columbian cartels, they were bringing in a few billion dollars a month. They had ex-US and British SOF working and advising them...plus the weaponary to go along with them. Yet these mexican cartels need the ATF to supply them? This whole thing is fishy. Holder is an over educated retard and the ATF need to be folded into another law enforcement arm.
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I know Holder did this shit and I know the idiots at the ATF went along or were..well idiots but my question is this. At the height of the Columbian cartels, they were bringing in a few billion dollars a month. They had ex-US and British SOF working and advising them...plus the weaponary to go along with them. Yet these mexican cartels need the ATF to supply them? This whole thing is fishy. Holder is an over educated retard and the ATF need to be folded into another law enforcement arm.
fast and furious isn't the only suspicious involvement going on with the cartels down there. There's a bunch of shit showing some level of CIA involvement. I don't know what else they got going on, but if all that crap were to be stopped first I have no problem with troops being sent in. For all I know, the CIA propped up one cartel for one reason and the ATF propped up another for another reason, WTF... Perry said that he would do it in cooperation with Mexico. And you're right, that place is a shithole and a danger to America. The trash needs taken out.
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LOL I dont agree with sending down there to intentionally fight the cartels but I do agree with sending them down there to protect our border which would probably lead to fights with the cartels.
You guys dont live here, you guys only hear and read what you do on the internet. You know the drug gangs come across the border and kidnap US citizens and take them back to mexico and hold them for ransom? happened to a kid I went to high school with when he lived down in the valley.
For all intents and purposes they own the border, not us...I see something wrong with that but hey if you guys are ok with it...
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End the Drug War
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End the Drug War
LOL, THAT WONT STOP SHIT!!!!
these cartels will just find something else, you think kidnappings are bad now? just wait until thats all they have...
you cant seriously be for the legalization of all drugs?
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LOL, THAT WONT STOP SHIT!!!!
these cartels will just find something else, you think kidnappings are bad now? just wait until thats all they have...
you cant seriously be for the legalization of all drugs?
Cartels wouldn't have money to do shit without all those billions in drug revenue. They'd turn back into small time street gangs. We wouldn't hear a peep from them.
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Cartels wouldn't have money to do shit without all those billions in drug revenue. They'd turn back into small time street gangs. We wouldn't hear a peep from them.
I wouldnt doubt youd see them disband to a certain extent but to think the ppl in them wouldnt still be a problem is ignorant.
Look at what happend in columbia after escobar got killed. The amount of crime sky rocketed b/c there wasnt anybody there to keep it in check. Probably be alot of the same, instead of a large group of people that has to report to a few small ppl you would have smaller gangs like you said but more crime all together.
what makes you think that crime wouldnt be in teh US like it is now? but even more so since their would be smaller gangs and less ppl to report to.
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You voted for obama - you should STFU and stop digging at this point as far as dumb politicians go.
you voted for bush... youre the one to talk... shut your fucking face
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You guys dont live here, you guys only hear and read what you do on the internet. You know the drug gangs come across the border and kidnap US citizens and take them back to mexico and hold them for ransom? happened to a kid I went to high school with when he lived down in the valley.
For all intents and purposes they own the border, not us...I see something wrong with that but hey if you guys are ok with it...
This kind of stuff happens every day in South Texas and it is only getting worse.
I think if they come across and fuck with us we have every right to fight back, but most of America is blind to what is really going on down here and it sucks.
Not all of this is drug related, but i do think the government needs to shut down this nonsense and protect our borders.
There are pockets of Texas that are literally owned by these Mexican cartels and we need to force them the fuck out.
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Hard to protect America when the govt is shipping thousands of assault rifles over the border to the cartels.
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This kind of stuff happens every day in South Texas and it is only getting worse.
I think if they come across and fuck with us we have every right to fight back, but most of America is blind to what is really going on down here and it sucks.
Not all of this is drug related, but i do think the government needs to shut down this nonsense and protect our borders.
There are pockets of Texas that are literally owned by these Mexican cartels and we need to force them the fuck out.
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agreed
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LOL, THAT WONT STOP SHIT!!!!
these cartels will just find something else, you think kidnappings are bad now? just wait until thats all they have...
you cant seriously be for the legalization of all drugs?
Did alcohol prohibition work? No, in fact it led to TONS of crime, murder and all the rest. There are moral reasons to oppose the drug war, which I don't think I can you on but also practical ones, as in, does it even work? No. So just end it.
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I wouldnt doubt youd see them disband to a certain extent but to think the ppl in them wouldnt still be a problem is ignorant.
Look at what happend in columbia after escobar got killed. The amount of crime sky rocketed b/c there wasnt anybody there to keep it in check. Probably be alot of the same, instead of a large group of people that has to report to a few small ppl you would have smaller gangs like you said but more crime all together.
what makes you think that crime wouldnt be in teh US like it is now? but even more so since their would be smaller gangs and less ppl to report to.
Of course they won't go away completely, nothing ever does of this nature. However, removing their prime financial motive would erode them into entities unlike anything that they've mutated into now, which is WAY better than the alternitive.
It's not our job to police Mexico, local crime is their problem, but when they directly affect citizens of the United States then they should suffer the full wrath of our military. If legalization isn't an option, then a clean sweep of the cartels and put into place people who will work with us, not against us.
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Of course they won't go away completely, nothing ever does of this nature. However, removing their prime financial motive would erode them into entities unlike anything that they've mutated into now, which is WAY better than the alternitive.
It's not our job to police Mexico, local crime is their problem, but when they directly affect citizens of the United States then they should suffer the full wrath of our military. If legalization isn't an option, then a clean sweep of the cartels and put into place people who will work with us, not against us.
This
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It's gonna be so funny Awesome.
Fixed