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WASHINGTON — One in three U.S. veterans of the post-9/11 military believes the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were not worth fighting, and a majority think that after 10 years of combat America should be focusing less on foreign affairs and more on its own problems, according to an opinion survey released Wednesday.
The findings highlight a dilemma for the Obama administration and Congress as they struggle to shrink the government's huge budget deficits and reconsider defense priorities while trying to keep public support for remaining involved in Iraq and Afghanistan for the longer term.
Nearly 4,500 U.S. troops have died in Iraq and about 1,700 in Afghanistan. Combined war costs since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks have topped $1 trillion.
The poll results presented by the Pew Research Center portray post-9/11 veterans as proud of their work, scarred by warfare and convinced that the American public has little understanding of the problems that wartime service has created for military members and their families.
The survey also showed that post-9/11 veterans are more likely than Americans as a whole to call themselves Republicans and to disapprove of President Barack Obama's performance as commander in chief. They also are more likely than earlier generations of veterans to have no religious affiliation.
The Pew Research Center, a nonpartisan organization that studies attitudes and trends, called the study the first of its kind. The results were based on two surveys conducted between late July and mid-September. One polled 1,853 veterans, including 712 who had served in the military after 9/11 but are no longer on active duty. Of the 712 post-9/11 veterans, 336 served in Iraq or Afghanistan. The other polled 2,003 adults who had not served in the military.
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It's one third, not two thirds you mindless fuckwad. Way to inflate the thread title.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44777299/ns/us_news-life/t/one-in-three-vets-say-iraq-afghan-wars-were-not-worth-it/
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good catch, fixed.
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They should all be assisinated for treason.
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I agree.
One third is a tidy sum. Very neat. I wonder if these unrelated polls dovetail in-- or maybe the one third in this case are also part of the same sample data one third in the following polls as well
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/38658.php
http://psych.ucsf.edu/news.aspx?id=6844
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/17/health/views/17vets.html
Not saying they are, but it's just funny to me how every negative poll dealing with Iraq/ Afghanistan seems to have a standard 1/3rd disatisfied, scarred, etc. as par for the course.
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They would probably think differently if they were to see the missions come to a close while in service. As long as active Missions are still going on, this "one-third" polled who no longer are in the military, who did not remain long enough to see an end to all operations, will never think their time was worth it and therefore the entire Wars were not "worth it" to them. This sort of thought is always at the forefront amongst veterans who get out before total completion, from the Revolutionary War to the wars of today.
I would also like to see the polling data and just who was polled. It would read differently if you just polled the US Air Force vs Army etc... and even much different if broken down by specific job in the military.
I believe it to be too broad for an accurate result of anything.
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I bet its also safe to say that "one-Third" who join the military wish they never joined up and were not expecting what they signed up for regardless of war or not.
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I bet its also safe to say that "one-Third" who join the military wish they never joined up and were not expecting what they signed up for regardless of war or not.
I think we should send you to Afghanistan tied to the treads of a tank.
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I bet its also safe to say that "one-Third" who join the military wish they never joined up and were not expecting what they signed up for regardless of war or not.
::) Last time that might have been the case was before 9/11 for the national guard.
Yea, you pimp these wars like crazy TA... why don't you join up!
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::) Last time that might have been the case was before 9/11 for the national guard.
Yea, you pimp these wars like crazy TA... why don't you join up!
Exactly. He's being a total douche bag on this. I'd pay to send him over there.
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They should all be assisinated for treason.
I agree with a lot of what you say on these boards, BD, but you should be ashamed of yourself for making a Bush-bot statement like that. These are veterans who put their asses on the line overseas. Shouldn't they be the first people to express their opinions on the wars? And when you look at the big picture, can you honestly say they're wrong?
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I agree with a lot of what you say on these boards, BD, but you should be ashamed of yourself for making a Bush-bot statement like that. These are veterans who put their asses on the line overseas. Shouldn't they be the first people to express their opinions on the wars? And when you look at the big picture, can you honestly say they're wrong?
I was just being sarcastic. Lol or are you being sarcastic now too? ;D
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I was just being sarcastic. Lol or are you being sarcastic now too? ;D
Nice try at attempting to recover when your true feelings on the subject were expressed.
You should be ashamed of yourself. I am reporting you to Hugo Chavez.
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Nice try at attempting to recover when your true feelings on the subject were expressed.
You should be ashamed of yourself. I am reporting you to Hugo Chavez.
lol
Im fucked.
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I was just being sarcastic.
Oops, sorry. :) :-[