Getbig.com: American Bodybuilding, Fitness and Figure
Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: dyslexic on October 06, 2011, 04:31:38 PM
-
I'm sure there are some here that doubt his "natural" status (me being one of them) ~ but damn, this guy was strong!
Very strong.
-
as natural as my cock
-
In before gh15 claims he was test , test esters and insulin like he claimed of Steve Reeves ::)
-
The pic at :09 was as gay as it gets ...
"hey bro, time to do dips....garb on to my nuts.."
-
His brother "Richard" had a tough childhood.
;D
-
Teststostarona, insulina, Deca, H bombs HGH the full bag of tricks!!!!!
HAHA!!! I beat Gh15 to it!!!
-
Not very tall, with very strong tendons to compliment his powerful musculature. He is (I believe) still alive and primarily does high repetition bodyweight squats and the like. I believe him to be a totally natural bodybuilder in his youth.
-
Teststostarona, insulina, Deca, H bombs HGH the full bag of tricks!!!!!
HAHA!!! I beat Gh15 to it!!!
What about Equipona, Masterona, and beef bologna?
-
Look at one of the comments on the youtube site:
"hfouad2008 (Sep 29, 2011)
my friend take it from exprinced 35 years old bodybuilding fan from egypt , if the gym biceps went more than 18" while he 6 feets or less then he tak STEROID , i may accept an exception for this days because of very adanced supplments , but
from 30 years ,noooooooooooo , its steroids my friends"
Sound familiar?
-
Work it out from this pic - theres the answer
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/307120_297399216941973_100000156918238_1418480_913941242_n.jpg)
-
juiced to the gills dead by 40 i have studied him pretty well over the yrs his workouts are some of the best for a natural or not for buidling general strength and muscle mass I tend to think he used and his lifts may be exagerated to he was training for the olympics so he would have access to what ever the other olympic lifters used
-
Look at one of the comments on the youtube site:
"hfouad2008 (Sep 29, 2011)
my friend take it from exprinced 35 years old bodybuilding fan from egypt , if the gym biceps went more than 18" while he 6 feets or less then he tak STEROID , i may accept an exception for this days because of very adanced supplments , but
from 30 years ,noooooooooooo , its steroids my friends"
Sound familiar?
Yes, I saw that and immediately thought the same thing. I didn't bother going to "Hfouad's" channel.
-
a natural dbol body
-
a natural dbol body
Dbol didn't exist back then, but Test Prop did.
-
juiced to the gills dead by 40 i have studied him pretty well over the yrs his workouts are some of the best for a natural or not for buidling general strength and muscle mass I tend to think he used and his lifts may be exagerated to he was training for the olympics so he would have access to what ever the other olympic lifters used
That took me a minute. Talk about "run-on" sentences!
Juiced to the gills. He was dead by 40. You had studied him pretty well over the years. His workouts are some of the best for a natural. They were not the best for building general strength and muscle mass. You think he was juicing and that his best lifts also may have been exaggerated.
He trained for the Olympics so that he would have access to whatever steroids the other Olympic lifters used.
O.K. Got it.
Marvin Eder - Best Lifts
* Deep-knee bend squats, 300 lbs x 50 reps
* Barbell curl, 210 lbs
* Clean and pressed, 355 lbs
* Crucifix, 2 x 100 lbs dumbbells
* Lateral raises, 120 lbs
* Deadlift, 665 lbs
* Parallel bar dip, 434 lbs
* Chins, 200 lbs x 8 reps
* Bench Press, 515 lbs
I'm sure you'll agree, such poundages are impressive. But just how did Marvin Eder get so strong?
Marvin Eder Routines
Marvin Eder used many strength training routines over the years. He particularly enjoyed Olympic lifting, and for bodybuilding purposes, mainly trained on the split system of 2 days on with the 3rd day off for rest.
A typical routine would be:
Day 1:
* 5 sets x 10 reps dumbbell laterals, 120 lbs
* 5 sets x 10 reps dumbbell curls, 120 lbs
* 5 sets x 10 reps dumbbell bench press and triceps curls, 120 lbs
* 5 sets x 10 reps lat machine pulldowns, 350 lbs
Day 2:
* 5 sets x 15 reps abdominal sit-ups, 50 lbs
* 5 sets x 50 reps calf machine
* 5 sets x 10 reps barbell squats, 475 lbs
alt text
As you can see, the loads lifted here are very heavy.
And the results?
Just check out the following superman physique...
Marvin Eder Measurements
* Bodyweight, 203
* Height, 5ft 8 ins
* Waist, 34 ins
* Chest, 50 ins
* Neck, 19 ins
* Biceps, 19 ins
* Forearms, 15 ins
* Thighs, 26 ins
* Calves, 17 ins
In Summary
So what muscle building tips can the typical trainee hope to learn from "The Biceps From The Bronx"?
It is no surprise that to attempt such a routine - at least for the typical trainee - would lead to burn-out and certain injury. However, there is great value in following Eder's lead in concentrating on the big lifts like the squat exercise, the deadlift, and the parallel bar dip.
It is THESE muscle building exercises - along with a willingness to train heavy - that built Marvin Eder's impressive physique.
Let them do the same for you.
Read more: http://www.ordinary-joe-muscle-building.com/marvin-eder-routines.html#ixzz1a5BUert3
I can't find any information on how long he lived
-
Dbol didn't exist back then, but Test Prop did.
I thought dbol came before test?
Didn't the Russians 'invent' dbol and outclassed the Americans in a lifting contest. Then after that the Americans 'invented' test and the next contest was more even? Pretty sure i've heard something along those lines...
-
I thought dbol came before test?
Didn't the Russians 'invent' dbol and outclassed the Americans in a lifting contest. Then after that the Americans 'invented' test and the next contest was more even? Pretty sure i've heard something along those lines...
Zeigler...
-
I thought dbol came before test?
Didn't the Russians 'invent' dbol and outclassed the Americans in a lifting contest. Then after that the Americans 'invented' test and the next contest was more even? Pretty sure i've heard something along those lines...
You need to read up on steroid history, my friend...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabolic_steroid
Clinical trials on humans, involving either oral doses of methyltestosterone or injections of testosterone propionate, began as early as 1937.[8] Testosterone propionate is mentioned in a letter to the editor of Strength and Health magazine in 1938; this is the earliest known reference to an anabolic steroid in a U.S. weightlifting or bodybuilding magazine.
-
I thought dbol came before test?
Didn't the Russians 'invent' dbol and outclassed the Americans in a lifting contest. Then after that the Americans 'invented' test and the next contest was more even? Pretty sure i've heard something along those lines...
As mentioned above, there were Testosterone drugs available. Dianabol was just the first really popular "named" one.
Here's a neat quick look at Dr. Ziegler and his little blue invention-
http://startingstrength.com/articles/doc_ziegler_starr.pdf .
-
Interesting read
6 week dbol cycle from the article
week 1-2: 5mg per day
week 3-4: 10mg
week 5-6: 20mg
Not exactly big doses, but great results. From 181lbs to 198.
Most would say dbol only is useless and would laugh at those dosages...
-
Interesting read
6 week dbol cycle from the article
week 1-2: 5mg per day
week 3-4: 10mg
week 5-6: 20mg
Not exactly big doses, but great results. From 181lbs to 198.
Most would say dbol only is useless and would laugh at those dosages...
Don't forget it was usually 6 weeks on, 4 weeks off, all year round, and a lot of guys would go higher with the dosages after a while.
But, nevertheless, even on 10mg of Dbol you will gain better than any natural.
-
Don't forget it was usually 6 weeks on, 4 weeks off, all year round, and a lot of guys would go higher with the dosages after a while.
But, nevertheless, even on 10mg of Dbol you will gain better than any natural.
The doses seem harmless in regard to side-effects. Less androgenic than test, no needles necessary. If i took steroids i'd much rather to this than stick myself 2-3 times a week and get watery.
-
The doses seem harmless in regard to side-effects. Less androgenic than test, no needles necessary. If i took steroids i'd much rather to this than stick myself 2-3 times a week and get watery.
Well, then you're an idiot. ;)
Injecting is really nothing, and much more convenient than popping pills, plus you don't have a constant strain on your liver.
-
Don't forget it was usually 6 weeks on, 4 weeks off, all year round, and a lot of guys would go higher with the dosages after a while.
But, nevertheless, even on 10mg of Dbol you will gain better than any natural.
10mg is what Im running right now and its fantastic - fuller and hard - just came to an end of a cruise period of 500mg cyp per week started the 10mg dball at the start of this week and have just done my first shots of 600 eq per week and 400 tren per week. so running the 10mg of dball along with those compounds to get ultra lean and full.. running no test with this so will see how it goes.. Disgusted interested me in a cycle like this to try , the guys from that golden 70s era were not huge test users compared to today and it was pretty much high anabolics and dball - so will see how it pans out. 8)
-
10mg is what Im running right now and its fantastic - fuller and hard - just came to an end of a cruise period of 500mg cyp per week started the 10mg dball at the start of this week and have just done my first shots of 600 eq per week and 400 tren per week. so running the 10mg of dball along with those compounds to get ultra lean and full.. running no test with this so will see how it goes.. Disgusted interested me in a cycle like this to try , the guys from that golden 70s era were not huge test users compared to today and it was pretty much high anabolics and dball - so will see how it pans out. 8)
sounds good!
-
10mg is what Im running right now and its fantastic - fuller and hard - just came to an end of a cruise period of 500mg cyp per week started the 10mg dball at the start of this week and have just done my first shots of 600 eq per week and 400 tren per week. so running the 10mg of dball along with those compounds to get ultra lean and full.. running no test with this so will see how it goes.. Disgusted interested me in a cycle like this to try , the guys from that golden 70s era were not huge test users compared to today and it was pretty much high anabolics and dball - so will see how it pans out. 8)
All 10mg in the morning, or split it like you would a regular dbol dose?
-
All 10mg in the morning, or split it like you would a regular dbol dose?
do 5mg in the am and 5 mg an hour before weights which is usely around the 6pm mark.. thai pinks, and i react well to dball find it hard to run more than 20mgs a day so im lucky in that respect.. 30mg is the highest i have ever taken and couldnt handle the sides :-\ can run test and EQ at higher doses no worrys but other things im quite sensitive to. so keep doses lowish "usely" :D
-
10mg is what Im running right now and its fantastic - fuller and hard - just came to an end of a cruise period of 500mg cyp per week started the 10mg dball at the start of this week and have just done my first shots of 600 eq per week and 400 tren per week. so running the 10mg of dball along with those compounds to get ultra lean and full.. running no test with this so will see how it goes.. Disgusted interested me in a cycle like this to try , the guys from that golden 70s era were not huge test users compared to today and it was pretty much high anabolics and dball - so will see how it pans out. 8)
Yeah and they looked best back then. Will be fun to hear your results :)
-
Yeah and they looked best back then. Will be fun to hear your results :)
Agree - 70s early 80s the best years 8)
-
do 5mg in the am and 5 mg an hour before weights which is usely around the 6pm mark.. thai pinks, and i react well to dball find it hard to run more than 20mgs a day so im lucky in that respect.. 30mg is the highest i have ever taken and couldnt handle the sides :-\ can run test and EQ at higher doses no worrys but other things im quite sensitive to. so keep doses lowish "usely" :D
what sides do you get on 30mg?
-
Just because I'm bored, here's March -
.
(http://www.usawa.com/USAWA%20Uploads/2010/12/BillMarchPressing.jpg).
(http://www.titanstrengthandpower.com/images/articles/Bill_March_web.jpg) .
Some of the York team from that time-
(http://photos-g.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v329/27/82/1250149417/n1250149417_30090374_4686.jpg).
Those would've been Dianabol era.
-
what sides do you get on 30mg?
Brutal painfull lower back pumps - pumps in my forearms so bad I cant contract my hands around anything to grip it plus my cardiovascular system is shot - also just feel lethargic and its an effort to move around the gym , between sets im slow as fuck - on 10mg i get none of the above but fantastic pumps in the target area im training and remain full and pumped .
-
Brutal painfull lower back pumps - pumps in my forearms so bad I cant contract my hands around anything to grip it plus my cardiovascular system is shot - also just feel lethargic and its an effort to move around the gym , between sets im slow as fuck - on 10mg i get none of the above but fantastic pumps in the target area im training and remain full and pumped .
I grow like a weed on 30mg, no sides as well. ;D ;D ;D
I had the worst painful pumps on Tbol though, lol. Arm training close to impossible.
-
You need to read up on steroid history, my friend...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabolic_steroid
Clinical trials on humans, involving either oral doses of methyltestosterone or injections of testosterone propionate, began as early as 1937.[8] Testosterone propionate is mentioned in a letter to the editor of Strength and Health magazine in 1938; this is the earliest known reference to an anabolic steroid in a U.S. weightlifting or bodybuilding magazine.
There is NO history of strength athletes using anything before Ziegler in 1954 in the United States.
-
I grow like a weed on 30mg, no sides as well. ;D ;D ;D
I had the worst painful pumps on Tbol though, lol. Arm training close to impossible.
>:( you are lucky - Im happy @ 10mg though and do get gains Im just sensitive to it which I suppose I get gains at lower doses also - save money no doubt even though its cheap, but when I see guys saying they take 100mg a day im like ----- > holly shit :o
-
>:( you are lucky - Im happy @ 10mg though and do get gains Im just sensitive to it which I suppose I get gains at lower doses also - save money no doubt even though its cheap, but when I see guys saying they take 100mg a day im like ----- > holly shit :o
Well i'm not trying to get anywhere near 100mg i guess.
I like the 30mg and make good gains, so no need to go higher at least for now i guess.
-
Well i'm not trying to get anywhere near 100mg i guess.
I like the 30mg and make good gains, so no need to go higher at least for now i guess.
For me, all moosetrack ice cream for insane pumps, mind blowing muscles, and pipe like vascularity.
(http://icecreamjournal.turkeyhill.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/moosetracks2.bmp)
-
Work it out from this pic - theres the answer
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/307120_297399216941973_100000156918238_1418480_913941242_n.jpg)
ahahahhahahahhahahahhahahhahahahahahah
fucking great
-
There is NO history of strength athletes using anything before Ziegler in 1954 in the United States.
Correct, but that that takes away the nutcase arguments that it existed since the early 1900's, based on no evidence whatsoever.....
-
For me, all moosetrack ice cream for insane pumps, mind blowing muscles, and pipe like vascularity.
(http://icecreamjournal.turkeyhill.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/moosetracks2.bmp)
fuk when i was competing i lived on that shit!! half a gallon a day.
-
fuk when i was competing i lived on that shit!! half a gallon a day.
If you could stay that lean eating half a gallon of ice cream a day then fuck you. :D
-
def not nat