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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Nutrition, Products & Supplements Info => Topic started by: NYmuscle on October 08, 2011, 04:17:20 PM
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Any one have any experience with Dave palumbo's diet while bulking.Ive cut a few times naturally on keto/lowcarb style diet and liked it alot.After my contest prep im gonna have a long off season and interested to try and bulk on this kind of diet specifically Dave's format
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its nothing special-he just has lots of good fats in the meals
like whole eggs for breakfast
salmon w/ olive oil etc
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Cant really bulk on it, hard to take in alot of calories as a pretty much straight protein diet fills you up quickly.....
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Cant really bulk on it, hard to take in alot of calories as a pretty much straight protein diet fills you up quickly.....
Not exactly true. He says add 30 grams of carbs to each meal at first. Like any other bulking diet increase calories slowly.
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u never need to eat as much fat as he recommends you eat.
even on zero carbs, 5- 10 grams per meal is all you need. so if your eating egg whites or chicken breast, throw in a teaspoon of olive oil or a few almonds. if your eating beef or you add in a yolk or two, dont need to add any fats. eat carbs as needed.
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u never need to eat as much fat as he recommends you eat.
even on zero carbs, 5- 10 grams per meal is all you need. so if your eating egg whites or chicken breast, throw in a teaspoon of olive oil or a few almonds. if your eating beef or you add in a yolk or two, dont need to add any fats. eat carbs as needed.
why?
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why?
from personal experience, i dont get any added benefit. ive done alot of experimenting with diet. from high fat to no fat. ive found fats to be necessary, need to have some everyday, but only a small amount. even on zero carbs.
although if going no carbs for an extendd period of time, which i think is stupid, then youd want to increase fats just bcause youll need calories from somewhere
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i have found if you want to maintain miscle on a low carb diet,you need to add at least one carb meal every 72hrs to restore glycogen or else forget maintaining muscle let alone building any new muscle.
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Well beside getting cals from protein you get alot of cals from the fats since there very calorie dense
Heres a sample
MEAL #1
5 whole eggs (make sure to buy OMEGA-3 EGGS from the supermarket. They contain virtually NO saturated fat and tons of good OMEGA-3 fats); add another 4 egg whites to this (they don?t need to be the Omega-3 ones; you can use liquid egg whites)
MEAL #2
SHAKE: 50g Whey Protein with 1 ? tablespoon of All Natural Peanut butter (no sugar)
MEAL #3
"Lean Protein Meal": 8oz chicken with 1/2-cup cashew nuts (almonds, or walnuts)
MEAL #4
SHAKE: 50 Whey Protein with 1 ? tablespoons of All Natural Peanut butter (no sugar added)
MEAL #5
"Fatty Protein Meal": 8oz Salmon, Swordfish, or RED MEAT with a green salad (no tomatoes, carrots, or red peppers) with 1 tablespoon of Olive Oil or Macadamia nut oil and vinegar
MEAL #6
SHAKE: 50g Whey with 1 ? tablespoon all natural peanut butter or 4 whole (Omega-3) eggs and 4 extra whites
Also says have a cheat meal once a week,last meal of the day
IMO this seems great for me,Im just wondering if i can make solid muscle gains from it
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Not exactly true. He says add 30 grams of carbs to each meal at first. Like any other bulking diet increase calories slowly.
Not sure what you mean here. If you add 30 gms of carbs to each meal, eating anywhere from 5-7 meals, this is 150-210 gms total, on a 2500 calorie diet this is 30%
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Not sure what you mean here. If you add 30 gms of carbs to each meal, eating anywhere from 5-7 meals, this is 150-210 gms total, on a 2500 calorie diet this is 30%
This is his sample mass gaining diet.
EXAMPLE OF A TYPICAL MASS GAINING DIET:
MEAL 1:
6 whole omega-3 eggs with 1 cup of oatmeal
MEAL 2:
Meal Replacement SHAKE with a liquid carbohydrate drink (such as GATORAIDE or ULTRAFUEL)
MEAL 3:
? pound (8oz) of chicken (or turkey or filet of sole or shrimp) with ? cup nuts (almonds, cashews, or walnuts) with 1 cup RICE
MEAL 4:
Same as MEAL 2
MEAL 5:
? pound (8oz) of red meat (or salmon or swordfish) with a salad with 2 tablespoon of olive or macadamia nut oil and vinegar with 1 baked potato and/or yam
MEAL 6: Same as MEAL 3
MEAL 7: Same as MEAL 2
MEAL 8: 6 whole omega-3 eggs with1 cup grits
He says though in general continue the cut diet and add 25-30 grams of carbs per meal.
The ratios should be something like 50/25/25 protein/carbs/fats
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Im confused so he does use carbs in his bulking diet?
if so how many carbs generally if im bulking say on 2800 cals?
How does his macros set up?
thanks
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Im confused so he does use carbs in his bulking diet?
if so how many carbs generally if im bulking say on 2800 cals?
How does his macros set up?
thanks
yes he uses carbs in his bulking diet
the other diet u posted was his cutting diet
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Im confused so he does use carbs in his bulking diet?
if so how many carbs generally if im bulking say on 2800 cals?
How does his macros set up?
thanks
Last line of my previous post.
Something around 50/25/25 protein/carbs/fats.
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Another Q guys,Dave has waixy maize in his pre n post workout shake,idk y he likes it so much but im not wasteing money on it.What can replace that?
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Make your own diet using Daves as a template if you want to.
Personally,I like carbs over fats anyday.
Fuck waxy maise....not needed IMO..................bak ed potato with your post-workout shake is all that`s needed for spiking insulin post training.
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I found this diet just made me fat. I have since discovered that I do better without all the added fat. High carbs decent protein and lowe fats.
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I found this diet just made me fat. I have since discovered that I do better without all the added fat. High carbs decent protein and lowe fats.
onlything that can make u fat is over eating calories not fat itself
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I found this diet just made me fat. I have since discovered that I do better without all the added fat. High carbs decent protein and lowe fats.
I'm sure you were a fatso to begin with.