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Title: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: greeneyes on October 15, 2011, 04:10:18 PM
this is how you look like by being under high dose of tren ace ,,, fella of a good generation with average genetic
to all guys who would have similiar look than dennis newman or mike francois ,, take good amount of tren A ( 252mg of tren ace per two days ) and masterona ( 300mg every day ) plus 2g test suspension per week and daily use of gh as much as you get ,, muscle fibre will grow nto amazing size listen to the truth fella

gh15 pupil approved




Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: no one on October 15, 2011, 04:12:39 PM
not the best example- in fact i wouldnt say even close to being a tren monster.

this guy is a tren monster.

ronnie rockel.

/ end thread.
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: no one on October 15, 2011, 04:20:14 PM


throw stan efferding in there too.
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: gh15 on October 15, 2011, 04:20:42 PM
pretty much,, trenbolona ace is abused by top amatuer and profesionals,, fellas say they take 50mg 75 mg lol BALONIE,, we take up to 300-400 mg a day! 150-250mg a day is common ! and what it does is....daily changes to physiqe,, you sit and you see and feel changes,, it is changes that happen so fast that when you go sleep and wake up you see them ,, the skin is very noticable change the thickness of muscle very noticable change,, the actual higher lean muscle is very noticable ,, and later on the shedding of fat to a very noticable degree ,, it all happens together in combo depending mainly on calories you feed yourself,,,can go lean first and then thicken or firts thicken and then go lean but in general it go together with trenbolona ace,,

what the chiwawa rays dont tell you is that they were on so much trenbolona and no genetic got them to where they got ,, it is the drugs! and specific drugs!

its really not the number on scale it is the wquality ,, but many many many fellas that push in calories see the size climbing on scale in record time ...record time you get 5 lb of quality muscle after few injects of 200mg trenbolona a day ,, yes yes good muscle not balonie bloof,, it is the secret behind bodybuild friends and it need to be known ,, i dont care what they think about me and how much my buddies like i give a flying fuck about them thikn about me,,

I DO NOT WANT ANY OTHER KID TO EVER! EVER! WALK AROUND AND THIKN HE IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH BECAUSE THE OTHER FELLA HAS THE GENETIC TO BE SCULPTED THICK...I WANT THAT KID TO KNOW ! THE REASON FOR THAT SCULPTED THICKNESS AND THAT IS WHY I KEEP REPEATING MYSELF LIKE PARROT SO NO MORE KIDS WILL GO AROUND WONDERING HOW COME LIAR SKIP LACOUR THE TRENBOLONA ADDICT CAN LOOK SO THICK AND RIPPED,, OR THAT MOTHER FUCKIN FAILDO THAT IS TRENBOLONA ADDICT!! GOING AROUND MAKING NAME FOR HIMSELF ON HIS LIES,,

im at risk thats true ,, but! i wil go to my grave with the knowlegde that there is not even ONE KID that has twisting bodybuild passes through his blood ,, the ones who read the bible and they will have it here will know who was saying the truth when they become bodybuilders and that all that matters

gh15 approved
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: greeneyes on October 15, 2011, 04:21:11 PM
No one with straight mind would have rockel physique ,,we are talkin about real muscle and separation , do you see how rockel is baloonie or you are blind ,, rockel is a good exemple of typical abuse of insulina and gh in a very very short period , rockel dont make eyes turn into him in the street ,, dont get the attention of whore in the night club , abuse of steroida make his face look like 55old men with no hope ,,,


gh15 pupil approved
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: no one on October 15, 2011, 04:24:13 PM
No one with straight mind would have rockel physique ,,we are talkin about real muscle and separation , do you see how rockel is baloonie or you are blind ,, rockel is a good exemple of typical abuse of insulina and gh in a very very short period , rockel dont make eyes turn into him in the street ,, dont get the attention of whore in the night club , abuse of steroida make his face look like 55old men with no hope ,,,


gh15 pupil approved

right- all that insulin and gh and hes STILL one of the grainiest, most dense guys out there... so just imagine how much tren he must be using. fuck you'd prolly have a heart attack just running half of the tren hes using and nothing else.

you just made my point.
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: Devon97 on October 15, 2011, 04:24:56 PM
pretty much,, trenbolona ace is abused by top amatuer and profesionals,, fellas say they take 50mg 75 mg lol BALONIE,, we take up to 300-400 mg a day! 150-250mg a day is common ! and what it does is....daily changes to physiqe,, you sit and you see and feel changes,, it is changes that happen so fast that when you go sleep and wake up you see them ,, the skin is very noticable change the thickness of muscle very noticable change,, the actual higher lean muscle is very noticable ,, and later on the shedding of fat to a very noticable degree ,, it all happens together in combo depending mainly on calories you feed yourself,,,can go lean first and then thicken or firts thicken and then go lean but in general it go together with trenbolona ace,,

what the chiwawa rays dont tell you is that they were on so much trenbolona and no genetic got them to where they got ,, it is the drugs! and specific drugs!

its really not the number on scale it is the wquality ,, but many many many fellas that push in calories see the size climbing on scale in record time ...record time you get 5 lb of quality muscle after few injects of 200mg trenbolona a day ,, yes yes good muscle not balonie bloof,, it is the secret behind bodybuild friends and it need to be known ,, i dont care what they think about me and how much my buddies like i give a flying fuck about them thikn about me,,

I DO NOT WANT ANY OTHER KID TO EVER! EVER! WALK AROUND AND THIKN HE IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH BECAUSE THE OTHER FELLA HAS THE GENETIC TO BE SCULPTED THICK...I WANT THAT KID TO KNOW ! THE REASON FOR THAT SCULPTED THICKNESS AND THAT IS WHY I KEEP REPEATING MYSELF LIKE PARROT SO NO MORE KIDS WILL GO AROUND WONDERING HOW COME LIAR SKIP LACOUR THE TRENBOLONA ADDICT CAN LOOK SO THICK AND RIPPED,, OR THAT MOTHER FUCKIN FAILDO THAT IS TRENBOLONA ADDICT!! GOING AROUND MAKING NAME FOR HIMSELF ON HIS LIES,,

im at risk thats true ,, but! i wil go to my grave with the knowlegde that there is not even ONE KID that has twisting bodybuild passes through his blood ,, the ones who read the bible and they will have it here will know who was saying the truth when they become bodybuilders and that all that matters

gh15 approved

gh,

What should be taken with a newbie prop + tren ace EOD cycle to prevent progesterone gyno? Or anti e?
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: affeman on October 15, 2011, 04:29:54 PM
not the best example- in fact i wouldnt say even close to being a tren monster.

this guy is a tren monster.

ronnie rockel.

/ end thread.

exactly. That's the face of a guy on high doses of Trenbolona

(http://www.team-andro.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/11590/normal_DSC_7635.jpg)
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: njflex on October 15, 2011, 04:34:15 PM
exactly. That's the face of a guy on high doses of Trenbolona

(http://www.team-andro.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/11590/normal_DSC_7635.jpg)
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that looks insane,great build.i would not want to sacrifice whatever comes from that usage ,but damn ..
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: Bam-bam on October 15, 2011, 04:35:26 PM
this is how you look like by being under high dose of tren ace ,,, fella of a good generation with average genetic
to all guys who would have similiar look than dennis newman or mike francois ,, take good amount of tren A ( 252mg of tren ace per two days ) and masterona ( 300mg every day ) plus 2g test suspension per week and daily use of gh as much as you get ,, muscle fibre will grow nto amazing size listen to the truth fella

gh15 pupil approved






decent lines for a white fella but nothing spetacular... and his physique looks somewhat bloated, if you look at this face and puffy cheecks you can see he needed an extra 5lbs water cut at least
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: njflex on October 15, 2011, 04:41:30 PM
decent lines for a white fella but nothing spetacular... and his physique looks somewhat bloated, if you look at this face and puffy cheecks you can see he needed an extra 5lbs water cut at least
this desent line's fella was primed for weider stardom if he didn't get lekemia 2 months from this very show,,he had insane delt's ,great legs,arms,cover boy looks ect,,,loved gh and not hard on other stuff as said to not get unwanted sides to kill his cover look..
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: L.L on October 15, 2011, 04:45:42 PM
NO HOMO but watching Dennis Newman ,Phil Hernon  as a kid was what got into Bodybuilding.
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: njflex on October 15, 2011, 04:48:55 PM
NO HOMO but watching Dennis Newman ,Phil Hernon  as a kid was what got into Bodybuilding.
damn straight no homo....
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: hipolito mejia on October 15, 2011, 04:50:20 PM
not the best example- in fact i wouldnt say even close to being a tren monster.

this guy is a tren monster.

ronnie rockel.

/ end thread.

Here ... would you do it if this was your result?

Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: ChristopherA on October 15, 2011, 04:50:44 PM
No one with straight mind would have rockel physique ,,we are talkin about real muscle and separation , do you see how rockel is baloonie or you are blind ,, rockel is a good exemple of typical abuse of insulina and gh in a very very short period , rockel dont make eyes turn into him in the street ,, dont get the attention of whore in the night club , abuse of steroida make his face look like 55old men with no hope ,,,


gh15 pupil approved
Another GH15 parrot. Cant you have your style? Is it that hard to think independently on your own? And dont question No One either, he knows what the fuck he's talking about.
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: hipolito mejia on October 15, 2011, 04:51:43 PM
Btw, I miss the ESPN logo related to bodybuilding events...   :-(
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: tbombz on October 15, 2011, 05:01:36 PM
bet your ass theres tren running through these veins








Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: BiGHer on October 15, 2011, 05:11:32 PM
I've been running tren for a few weeks now... I'm gonna post some offseason progress photos again soon, but damn everytime I read these tren threads I wanna go pin more lol.  Typical drug addict behavior I know, but it's tough to hate on a physique like Rockels.  He is a very good bodybuilder, just a midget that's all.  Give him 3-4 more inches in height and the picture fuckin changes for him!
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: L.L on October 15, 2011, 05:14:27 PM
I'd rather have Lebrone's physiques over Ronnie's any day of the week.
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: greeneyes on October 15, 2011, 05:17:40 PM
Quote
Another GH15 parrot. Cant you have your style? Is it that hard to think independently on your own? And dont question No One either, he knows what the fuck he's talking about.
It's a way to be thankful to gh15 who give us advice   8)
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: Big N on October 15, 2011, 05:21:17 PM
this is how you look like by being under high dose of tren ace ,,, fella of a good generation with average genetic
to all guys who would have similiar look than dennis newman or mike francois ,, take good amount of tren A ( 252mg of tren ace per two days ) and masterona ( 300mg every day ) plus 2g test suspension per week and daily use of gh as much as you get ,, muscle fibre will grow nto amazing size listen to the truth fella

gh15 pupil approved






Nice vid, who wont the Olympia that year?
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: US MUSL on October 15, 2011, 07:45:16 PM
Nice vid, who wont the Olympia that year?

Dorian
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: unrageable on October 15, 2011, 07:48:16 PM
Nice vid, who wont the Olympia that year?
how stupid are you?
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: chess315 on October 15, 2011, 08:13:03 PM
what would it even feel like to take 300-400mg of tren in a day would you go stark raving mad?
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on October 15, 2011, 08:35:50 PM
what would it even feel like to take 300-400mg of tren in a day would you go stark raving mad?


I can't imagine the feeling. I only know, in my case, it would be a very uncomfortable feeling. Very uncomfortable.
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: dustin on October 15, 2011, 08:39:51 PM

I can't imagine the feeling. I only know, in my case, it would be a very uncomfortable feeling. Very uncomfortable.

On 100mg EOD I walk into a room and want to fight the biggest guy in the room then buy everyone a round of drinks. I can't imagine the psychological roller coaster that much tren would be.

I'd probably end up dead within 6 months lol
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: littleboyblue on October 15, 2011, 08:57:17 PM
On 100mg EOD I walk into a room and want to fight the biggest guy in the room then buy everyone a round of drinks. I can't imagine the psychological roller coaster that much tren would be.

I'd probably end up dead within 6 months lol
You think the tren makes you want to do this?  Funny, I never felt that way on it.
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on October 15, 2011, 09:25:21 PM
On 100mg EOD I walk into a room and want to fight the biggest guy in the room then buy everyone a round of drinks. I can't imagine the psychological roller coaster that much tren would be.

I'd probably end up dead within 6 months lol



LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL !! Now THAT is some funny shit !! On a serious note though, you're 100 % correct regarding the " roller coaster " comment. Sad thing is, these bb'ers { Rockel, for example } are more thank likely takin' recreational drugs to balance out the lethargy, mood swings, etc. that these steroids produce. Tren especially. :/

Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: dyslexic on October 15, 2011, 09:44:56 PM
Until all the recent talk of Tren this and Tren that... I don't remember ever thinking about it.


And believe me when I tell you, it was as real as real could get.
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: flinstones1 on October 15, 2011, 09:52:06 PM
I remember reading Dennis claimed  the stack leading up to this show was  a few cc's of primobolan, a few cc's of parabolan, winstrol, and some anavar with 4 iu of gh leading up to this show.
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: notsureifsrs on October 15, 2011, 10:42:58 PM
I remember reading Dennis claimed  the stack leading up to this show was  a few cc's of primobolan, a few cc's of parabolan, winstrol, and some anavar with 4 iu of gh leading up to this show.
everything x4  ;D
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: pellius on October 16, 2011, 04:44:12 AM
exactly. That's the face of a guy on high doses of Trenbolona

(http://www.team-andro.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/11590/normal_DSC_7635.jpg)

Why does tren age you more than an other anabolic?
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: wes on October 16, 2011, 07:20:00 AM
decent lines for a white fella but nothing spetacular... and his physique looks somewhat bloated, if you look at this face and puffy cheecks you can see he needed an extra 5lbs water cut at least
He looks fucking great!!!
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: flinstones1 on October 16, 2011, 10:24:04 AM
Why does tren age you more than an other anabolic?

 I don't know if it truly ages you internally like insulin for example. Tren improoves feed efficiency and better able to absorb vitamins and minerals, so if anything it can only make you healthier. I think the effect it has on the skin is why it makes people who abuse it look so much older than they are....of course there could be some hidden gene that it unlocks which dramatically accelerates the aging process that we do not know about yet. Never done tren but slin had a similar effect on me made me look older ..aged my  skin somewhat. Also put someone on a heavy test cycle and look how much older they are, have them come off and boom baby face.
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: nosleep on October 16, 2011, 10:25:19 AM
I don't know if it truly ages you internally like insulin for example. Tren improoves feed efficiency and better able to absorb vitamins and minerals, so if anything it can only make you healthier. I think the effect it has on the skin is why it makes people who abuse it look so much older than they are. Never done tren but slin had a similar effect on me made me look older ..aged my  skin somewhat. Also put someone on a heavy test cycle and look how much older they are, have them come off and boom baby face.

FIRST OFF, I HAVE ZERO EXP.

BUT I THINK THIS IS TRUE...ITS THE SLIN AND TESTOSTERONA.
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: dustin on October 16, 2011, 10:31:43 AM
Why does tren age you more than an other anabolic?

I've never seriously researched it, but I have a feeling that it's because of how androgenic the shit is.
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: nosleep on October 16, 2011, 10:34:18 AM
I've never seriously researched it, but I have a feeling that it's because of how androgenic the shit is.

ISNT MASTERON TOO?

IF SO, THAT MADE ME LOOK BEAUIFUL
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: dustin on October 16, 2011, 10:39:52 AM
ISNT MASTERON TOO?

IF SO, THAT MADE ME LOOK BEAUIFUL

That's true too. Masteron is DHT based and tren is a 19-nor though. And I don't know what the fuck it is about tren, but it's just a magical compound lol

Not too sure what causes the leather face effect.
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: lesaucer on October 16, 2011, 02:07:48 PM
tren makes you look older simply because it remove any fat and water retention from your face, making it look less smooth with a dry look like diuretics does... remember this stuff was invented to put mass on CATTLES and remove any fat+water from them, because thats not what we want to eat, right?  face looks young again after usage, water+fat get back on..
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: pellius on October 16, 2011, 11:58:48 PM
tren makes you look older simply because it remove any fat and water retention from your face, making it look less smooth with a dry look like diuretics does... remember this stuff was invented to put mass on CATTLES and remove any fat+water from them, because thats not what we want to eat, right?  face looks young again after usage, water+fat get back on..

I just remember gh15 talking about tren face and how it ages you. But it might be just genetic. Jay and Branch are about the same age but Branch looks so much older. So haggard and grizzled. Looks like a mountain man in his fifties. You would think all the HGH they take would counter act this.
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: BOW on October 17, 2011, 12:15:13 AM
aging=genetics. whites in particular "age" harder than most races, asians usually can stay young looking better than most.
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: hangclean on October 17, 2011, 02:11:47 AM
I don't know if it truly ages you internally like insulin for example. Tren improoves feed efficiency and better able to absorb vitamins and minerals, so if anything it can only make you healthier. I think the effect it has on the skin is why it makes people who abuse it look so much older than they are....of course there could be some hidden gene that it unlocks which dramatically accelerates the aging process that we do not know about yet. Never done tren but slin had a similar effect on me made me look older ..aged my  skin somewhat. Also put someone on a heavy test cycle and look how much older they are, have them come off and boom baby face.
"If anything tren can only make you healthier?"

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I nominate this for the most ridiculous post ever on getbig.  I hope people don't actually believe this shit.  It may not be as bad as a lot of people tend to believe (the kidney toxicity is way over-rated IMO), but you damn well better realize the strain this shit puts on your cardiovascular system. 
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: pellius on October 17, 2011, 02:40:04 AM
"If anything tren can only make you healthier?"

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I nominate this for the most ridiculous post ever on getbig.  I hope people don't actually believe this shit.  It may not be as bad as a lot of people tend to believe (the kidney toxicity is way over-rated IMO), but you damn well better realize the strain this shit puts on your cardiovascular system. 

Why is that? I always hear of people that use tren that it kills your conditioning. That you look like you are in shape but can barely walk up a flight of stairs without wheezing. It's definitely not a compound an athlete who depends on physical performance would want to use. For a bodybuilder where looks is the only criteria and athletic and functional ability is irrelevant it's not a problem. Just kind of odd that an anabolic compound can have such a dramatic effort on improving body composition but an equally dramatic effect on reducing athletic performance.
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: aussiepro on October 17, 2011, 04:07:02 AM
ronny looks good, jose looks like he is about to die
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: lesaucer on October 17, 2011, 07:45:30 AM
Why is that? I always hear of people that use tren that it kills your conditioning. That you look like you are in shape but can barely walk up a flight of stairs without wheezing. It's definitely not a compound an athlete who depends on physical performance would want to use. For a bodybuilder where looks is the only criteria and athletic and functional ability is irrelevant it's not a problem. Just kind of odd that an anabolic compound can have such a dramatic effort on improving body composition but an equally dramatic effect on reducing athletic performance.

this is true, on tren, after 1 set of db shoulder press, im totally out of breath and sweating like a pig. absolutely ZERO cardio, dunno why tren does that, but my guess is that since tren makes your body temperature rise up so easily, the body needs a shitload more oxygen, but thats good cuz im basicly doing my cardio at the same time im training  8)
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: makaveli25 on October 17, 2011, 07:50:19 AM
Why is that? I always hear of people that use tren that it kills your conditioning. That you look like you are in shape but can barely walk up a flight of stairs without wheezing. It's definitely not a compound an athlete who depends on physical performance would want to use. For a bodybuilder where looks is the only criteria and athletic and functional ability is irrelevant it's not a problem. Just kind of odd that an anabolic compound can have such a dramatic effort on improving body composition but an equally dramatic effect on reducing athletic performance.

It makes your blood pressure go up.
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: BayGBM on October 17, 2011, 07:59:21 AM
Here ... would you do it if this was your result?



yep!
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: _bruce_ on October 17, 2011, 08:24:45 AM
Btw, I miss the ESPN logo related to bodybuilding events...   :-(

Me too, just sad.
It's because GayTV bought the rights for bodybuilding.
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: hangclean on October 17, 2011, 11:45:19 AM
Why is that? I always hear of people that use tren that it kills your conditioning. That you look like you are in shape but can barely walk up a flight of stairs without wheezing. It's definitely not a compound an athlete who depends on physical performance would want to use. For a bodybuilder where looks is the only criteria and athletic and functional ability is irrelevant it's not a problem. Just kind of odd that an anabolic compound can have such a dramatic effort on improving body composition but an equally dramatic effect on reducing athletic performance.
All of the nandrolone derivetives contribute to left ventricle hypertrophy.  For this clown to say that "if anything, tren is healthy," is an irresponsible and ludicrous statement.  That being said, i love the stuff. ;D
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: notsureifsrs on October 17, 2011, 01:15:54 PM
tren makes you look older simply because it remove any fat and water retention from your face, making it look less smooth with a dry look like diuretics does... remember this stuff was invented to put mass on CATTLES and remove any fat+water from them, because thats not what we want to eat, right?  face looks young again after usage, water+fat get back on..
ofc we want to only tren abusers  ;D

i like this thread, with all the up sides of tren mentioned in the last couple weeks you finally mentioned the down sides
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: flinstones1 on October 17, 2011, 01:31:35 PM
All of the nandrolone derivetives contribute to left ventricle hypertrophy.  For this clown to say that "if anything, tren is healthy," is an irresponsible and ludicrous statement.  That being said, i love the stuff. ;D

. Yogurt helps build strong bones and prevent osteoperosis in women, yet dairy is linked to cancer. so is it healthy or unhealthy? High doses of deca are more dangerous than testosterone in animal studies, yet deca has been shown to be linked to life extension, the benefits it has on immune function are well documented. Is it healthy or unhealthy? As for tren well I've never ran it, so I dont know how bad the sides are but If something helps you absorb vitamins and minerals it will make you healthier, in theory. ;,  don't be a dumbass and learn to read between the lines before calling someone a clown. I dont think tren is "healthy" in the way your referring it to. figure you would pick up on that,\ ;)
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: hangclean on October 17, 2011, 01:36:57 PM
. Yogurt helps build strong bones and prevent osteoperosis in women, yet dairy is linked to cancer. so is it healthy or unhealthy? High doses of deca are more dangerous than testosterone in animal studies, yet deca has been shown to be linked to life extension, the benefits it has on immune function are well documented. Is it healthy or unhealthy? As for tren well I've never ran it, so I dont know how bad the sides are but If something helps you absorb vitamins and minerals it will make you healthier, in theory. ;,  don't be a dumbass and learn to read between the lines before calling someone a clown. I dont think tren is "healthy" in the way your referring it to. figure you would pick up on that,\ ;)
There is no scientific proof that tren helps you absorb any vitamins and minerals.  I'm not sure where you came up with that.  Tren is not healthy in any sense of the word.  will it help you build muscle and lose fat?  yes......is it healthy?  No.
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: nosleep on October 17, 2011, 02:02:53 PM
There is no scientific proof that tren helps you absorb any vitamins and minerals.  I'm not sure where you came up with that.  Tren is not healthy in any sense of the word.  will it help you build muscle and lose fat?  yes......is it healthy?  No.

NOTHINGS HEALTHY IN THIS "SPORT". THE QUESTION IS HOW UNHEALTHY ARE YOU WILLING TO BECOME?

BRING ON THE GRAM OF STRANGO EQ, HALF GRAM STRANGO TREN, 10IU NOVOTROPIN NORDIC GH!  ;D
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: LittleJ on October 17, 2011, 02:08:51 PM
What if you add eq? Wouldn't that help with tren killing cardio?
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: hangclean on October 17, 2011, 02:12:31 PM
NOTHINGS HEALTHY IN THIS "SPORT". THE QUESTION IS HOW UNHEALTHY ARE YOU WILLING TO BECOME?

BRING ON THE GRAM OF STRANGO EQ, HALF GRAM STRANGO TREN, 10IU NOVOTROPIN NORDIC GH!  ;D
I am in total agreement with this statement.  my issue is someone saying tren is healthy. 
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: flinstones1 on October 17, 2011, 03:14:58 PM
There is no scientific proof that tren helps you absorb any vitamins and minerals.  I'm not sure where you came up with that.  Tren is not healthy in any sense of the word.  will it help you build muscle and lose fat?  yes......is it healthy?  No.

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Yet another amazing trait of trenbolone that must be noted is its ability to improve feed efficiency and mineral absorption in animals given the drug (8). To help you understand what this means for you, feed efficiency is a measurement of how much of an animals diet is converted into meat, and the more food it takes to produce this meat, the lower the efficiency. Conversely, the less food it takes to produce meat the, higher the efficiency& well you get the idea. Animals given trenbolone gained high quality weight without having their diet adjusted, thus improving feed efficiency. Finding new compounds which can improve feed efficiency is a billion dollar industry, and has spawned many nutritional advances in the bodybuilding world over the last few decades (CLA, Whey Protein, and HMB are compounds which spring to mind as having first been introduced by the livestock industry). What does this translate to for the hard training athlete? The food you eat will be better utilized for building lean muscle, and vitamins and minerals are also better absorbed which may keep you healthier during cycle.
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: GettingBig on October 17, 2011, 04:30:04 PM
Why does tren age you more than an other anabolic?

never heard tren age you more ! it could be contest condition ? I think when we look at someone just 1 day out there is much more than tren going there, if we just think of water restrictions and diuretics along with low calories depleted bb with like 4% bf sure you will look tired and drained.

Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: hangclean on October 17, 2011, 06:55:29 PM
finaplix profile

Yet another amazing trait of trenbolone that must be noted is its ability to improve feed efficiency and mineral absorption in animals given the drug (8). To help you understand what this means for you, feed efficiency is a measurement of how much of an animals diet is converted into meat, and the more food it takes to produce this meat, the lower the efficiency. Conversely, the less food it takes to produce meat the, higher the efficiency& well you get the idea. Animals given trenbolone gained high quality weight without having their diet adjusted, thus improving feed efficiency. Finding new compounds which can improve feed efficiency is a billion dollar industry, and has spawned many nutritional advances in the bodybuilding world over the last few decades (CLA, Whey Protein, and HMB are compounds which spring to mind as having first been introduced by the livestock industry). What does this translate to for the hard training athlete? The food you eat will be better utilized for building lean muscle, and vitamins and minerals are also better absorbed which may keep you healthier during cycle.
what happens in cattle does not happen in humans.  Also, this is some bro-science internet bullshit.  this is not a scientific study.  trenbolone is not healthy, but it works very well for what we use it for.  end of story.
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: gh15 on October 17, 2011, 09:54:40 PM
bible index trenbolona impact on condition and size,,

what trenbolona does to a physiqe is a direct dependnt on when you last had gh in your blood,, and how strong that gh was ,,

a trenbolona injects will shred you up much faster and initially do it while sloly thicknening the physiqe with it...after you had gh in blood for good 2-3-4-5-6 months ....the first thing you will notice when jumping on trenbolona ace after few months of legit gh is that there will be a fast condition enhancing effect and you will see the water from the gh gone while density and fat burning from trenbolona happen so you get  great condition pretty fast this way


for fellas who didnt have the gh in blood or had it but it was weak gh or had it 10 months prior...those fellas who get on trenbolona wil first FIRST have thickening effect to the physiqe....the thickness muscle thickness and density will increase first! while bodyfat will drop slower....it will drop but slower comparing to the first case i mentioned,,

so fellas who go on trenbolona ace 700-1000mg a week ,, with no gh before hand...will have physiqe change to begin with mainly due to muscle gettign very thick ....wrestler thick,, JOHN CENA TYPE OF THICKNESS he is good exampel since he is trenbolona addict,, so this type of thickness to a lesser degree if you are smaller... and density will increase....all that while bodyfat slowly decrease ,, by slowly i mean 2-4 months insted of 1-2 months after gh prime

fellas who firt had gh recently ,, and high quality gh ,, will first shred up and lose bodyfat on trenbolona and then same time when they lose fat will gain lean muscle slowly,,

both cases you end same way ,, its just diff approaches,, both cases i consider you use gh at some points.... so the end result will be the same wether you got there in 2 months or in 5 months,, it will be the same


gh15 approved
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: notsureifsrs on October 17, 2011, 10:15:18 PM
. Yogurt helps build strong bones and prevent osteoperosis in women, yet dairy is linked to cancer. so is it healthy or unhealthy? High doses of deca are more dangerous than testosterone in animal studies, yet deca has been shown to be linked to life extension, the benefits it has on immune function are well documented. Is it healthy or unhealthy? As for tren well I've never ran it, so I dont know how bad the sides are but If something helps you absorb vitamins and minerals it will make you healthier, in theory. ;,  don't be a dumbass and learn to read between the lines before calling someone a clown. I dont think tren is "healthy" in the way your referring it to. figure you would pick up on that,\ ;)
I agree and you can say it on almost everything, everything has it's own up sides and down sides.
The key is moderation, you probably need to abuse the shit out of dairy before getting cancer or having already health retarded problem to start with.
 
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: hangclean on October 17, 2011, 11:42:19 PM
I agree and you can say it on almost everything, everything has it's own up sides and down sides.
The key is moderation, you probably need to abuse the shit out of dairy before getting cancer or having already health retarded problem to start with.
 
Okay, there is a difference between something being not terrible for you and actually being healthy.  trenbolone is not as bad as a lot of people make it out to be, but it is far from a "healthy" compound.  The guy a few posts back actually tried to say that it is healthy.  It is not.
Title: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: chess315 on October 21, 2011, 02:29:24 AM
 I dont think this had anything to do with tren even though i started 2 weeks ago. Im 34 I was at the gas station some dingy young girl started talking to me sweet and cute but a lil nerdy looking. I didnt think anything bout it but out of sheer training I found a reason to give her my #. later that night she started texting and told me she just turned 19. My face is broke out bad from the starting the tren and heavy cycle so I thought no chance. This girl keeps texting me saying she was cold I told her Im cold to she asks can if I pick her up i think about it and go she tells me she dont want to fool around but an hour later has all her cloths of saying she wants a bf lol then she tells me before she leaves she has a 18yo gf lol and her gf would like me to this shit cant get any crazyier her mom let her come with me and ould give a fuck less to :o so tommoro if her and her friends home alone she wants me to go there and eat her 18yo friend out and do them both but ill belive it when i see it. She wasnt super hot but when your 34 any decent- 19 yo is pretty hot :) so one more yay for tren. If i do go with them both tommoro ill try to take at least a pic for proof
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: bigmc on October 21, 2011, 02:35:06 AM
you type that one handed stud  ::)
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: chess315 on October 21, 2011, 02:37:49 AM
i corrected it but basically lol half alseep didnt have anyone else to tell though its 4am in kc
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: Cleanest Natural on October 21, 2011, 03:01:16 AM
god of hormonas getting another 34 yo stud laid  ;D
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: JimmyJam1974 on October 21, 2011, 03:59:56 AM
god of hormonas getting another 34 yo stud laid  ;D
;D
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: StanZoLOL on October 21, 2011, 04:14:28 AM
god of hormonas getting another 34 yo stud laid  ;D

 :D
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: GroinkTropin on October 21, 2011, 04:26:24 AM
My opinion- tren is literal MAGIC. I am finding it harder and harder to imagine coming off!!!! In fact, I probably won't.
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: DK II on October 21, 2011, 04:46:12 AM
I dont think this had anything to do with tren even though i started 2 weeks ago. Im 34 I was at the gas station some dingy young girl started talking to me sweet and cute but a lil nerdy looking. I didnt think anything bout it but out of sheer training I found a reason to give her my #. later that night she started texting and told me she just turned 19. My face is broke out bad from the starting the tren and heavy cycle so I thought no chance. This girl keeps texting me saying she was cold I told her Im cold to she asks can if I pick her up i think about it and go she tells me she dont want to fool around but an hour later has all her cloths of saying she wants a bf lol then she tells me before she leaves she has a 18yo gf lol and her gf would like me to this shit cant get any crazyier her mom let her come with me and ould give a fuck less to :o so tommoro if her and her friends home alone she wants me to go there and eat her 18yo friend out and do them both but ill belive it when i see it. She wasnt super hot but when your 34 any decent- 19 yo is pretty hot :) so one more yay for tren. If i do go with them both tommoro ill try to take at least a pic for proof


Great, looks like you're about to lose your virginity, congrats.
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: wavelength on October 21, 2011, 04:57:31 AM
What exactly does tren do?
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: chris-a on October 21, 2011, 05:01:14 AM
tren - 30 years of helping illiterate rednecks get laid  ::)
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: ChristopherA on October 21, 2011, 05:15:10 AM
What exactly does tren do?
Apparently it makes you forget how to put a period on a sentence.
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: chess315 on October 21, 2011, 09:49:08 AM
tren - 30 years of helping illiterate rednecks get laid  ::)
us illiterate rednecks can use all the help we can get :) well off to chew some tobacco and yes I had to look on the can to know how to spell tobacco
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on October 21, 2011, 10:38:34 AM
couldn't understand shit, but it looks like you banged a 19 year old you met at a gas station. Make sure to post pics of your impending threesome
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: gh15 on October 21, 2011, 11:09:31 AM
you type that one handed stud  ::)
lol
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: gh15 on October 21, 2011, 11:22:44 AM
its quite simple with trenbolona ace,,

what would you chose? a mutatition between cheeta and a horse?  trenbola users

hipopotamus?  teststerona only users

chiwawa?   only oral winstrl anavar etc users


now,, what woudl you chose if you were girl who is 19 year old ,, dumb as cum,, and in gas station feeling liek havign fun?


girl befoe they know you before they get to actualy sit and get to know you well,, just liek men they go for the look impression you give...after that when it come to relashionship ...if you dont have a brain and some heart and know how to handle a girl... you gonna eat lots of  balonie and fail ,, but....upon initial meeting,, i have yet to see a girl that is not highly attracted to trenbolona users,, why? because this is what scream muscle to her,, girls dont see anything and dont think anything but in the most simplest terms when it come to looks,, and this term is this: if you cant see it ITS NTO THERE!,, girls like TO SEEEEE THE CUT,, TO SEEE THE 6 PACK ,, TO SEEEE THE HARDNESS,, THEY DONT KNOW WHAT XMAS TREE IS BUT TRUST ME IF YOU HAVE IT THAT MEAN YOU ARE SUPER SHREDDED AND THEY WILL LIKE YOUR BACK AND WHEN THEY TOUCH YOUR LOWER BACK YOU WONT FEEL ITS SQUUUSHED FROM ALL THE FAT AND WATER BUT RATHER FEEL HARD SOLID MUSCLE THERE AND GIRLS KNOW WHAT THIS FEELING MEAN....

how do you knwo you made it? you know yo made it when you are only 200lb and you get into a restaurant and everyone talk before hand btu when you enter inside there is akeward silence and stares,, THEN! you knwo you have made it,,

women will let you know if you are muscular ,, you will see it in their eyes,, their all approach changes,, they can be the biggest bitches yet moment they see a jon cena trenbolona ace addict they put on fake smile and get wet down there im telling you ,, it is like a man see a very attractive baebie looking whore with perky tits that walk to the store and look back and can imagine himself opening that space between her legs and fucking her because their space betwen legs is always big lol you can tell when they pass by you that they been around lol same for them when they see trenbolona ace bodybuilder,, sudenly all the power and strength translates into visual  in their eyes,, they can see it via muscles and good skin tone that becomes very good due to it wrapping the muscle tight,, they can see the MUSCLES ,, they can see seperation ,, breath and live cheeta,, and women recognize it with manlihood,, especialy in americana!

gh15 approved




Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: lvtolft on October 21, 2011, 11:35:59 AM
What type of dosage do you recommend for a "natural"?
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on October 21, 2011, 11:41:35 AM
its quite simple with trenbolona ace,,

what would you chose? a mutatition between cheeta and a horse?  trenbola users

hipopotamus?  teststerona only users

chiwawa?   only oral winstrl anavar etc users


now,, what woudl you chose if you were girl who is 19 year old ,, dumb as cum,, and in gas station feeling liek havign fun?


girl befoe they know you before they get to actualy sit and get to know you well,, just liek men they go for the look impression you give...after that when it come to relashionship ...if you dont have a brain and some heart and know how to handle a girl... you gonna eat lots of  balonie and fail ,, but....upon initial meeting,, i have yet to see a girl that is not highly attracted to trenbolona users,, why? because this is what scream muscle to her,, girls dont see anything and dont think anything but in the most simplest terms when it come to looks,, and this term is this: if you cant see it ITS NTO THERE!,, girls like TO SEEEEE THE CUT,, TO SEEE THE 6 PACK ,, TO SEEEE THE HARDNESS,, THEY DONT KNOW WHAT XMAS TREE IS BUT TRUST ME IF YOU HAVE IT THAT MEAN YOU ARE SUPER SHREDDED AND THEY WILL LIKE YOUR BACK AND WHEN THEY TOUCH YOUR LOWER BACK YOU WONT FEEL ITS SQUUUSHED FROM ALL THE FAT AND WATER BUT RATHER FEEL HARD SOLID MUSCLE THERE AND GIRLS KNOW WHAT THIS FEELING MEAN....

how do you knwo you made it? you know yo made it when you are only 200lb and you get into a restaurant and everyone talk before hand btu when you enter inside there is akeward silence and stares,, THEN! you knwo you have made it,,

women will let you know if you are muscular ,, you will see it in their eyes,, their all approach changes,, they can be the biggest bitches yet moment they see a jon cena trenbolona ace addict they put on fake smile and get wet down there im telling you ,, it is like a man see a very attractive baebie looking whore with perky tits that walk to the store and look back and can imagine himself opening that space between her legs and fucking her because their space betwen legs is always big lol you can tell when they pass by you that they been around lol same for them when they see trenbolona ace bodybuilder,, sudenly all the power and strength translates into visual  in their eyes,, they can see it via muscles and good skin tone that becomes very good due to it wrapping the muscle tight,, they can see the MUSCLES ,, they can see seperation ,, breath and live cheeta,, and women recognize it with manlihood,, especialy in americana!

gh15 approved







Pure poetry !
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: Benoitlapierre on October 21, 2011, 12:10:21 PM
tiny Asian chick like th hippopotamus look
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: greeneyes on October 21, 2011, 12:11:42 PM
its quite simple with trenbolona ace,,

what would you chose? a mutatition between cheeta and a horse?  trenbola users

hipopotamus?  teststerona only users

chiwawa?   only oral winstrl anavar etc users


now,, what woudl you chose if you were girl who is 19 year old ,, dumb as cum,, and in gas station feeling liek havign fun?


girl befoe they know you before they get to actualy sit and get to know you well,, just liek men they go for the look impression you give...after that when it come to relashionship ...if you dont have a brain and some heart and know how to handle a girl... you gonna eat lots of  balonie and
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fail ,, but....upon initial meeting,, i have yet to see a girl that is not highly attracted to trenbolona users,, why? because this is what scream muscle to her,, girls dont see anything and dont think anything but in the most simplest terms when it come to looks,, and this term is this: if you cant see it ITS NTO THERE!,, girls like TO SEEEEE THE CUT,, TO SEEE THE 6 PACK ,, TO SEEEE THE HARDNESS,, THEY DONT KNOW WHAT XMAS TREE IS BUT TRUST ME IF YOU HAVE IT THAT MEAN YOU ARE SUPER SHREDDED AND THEY WILL LIKE YOUR BACK AND WHEN THEY TOUCH YOUR LOWER BACK YOU WONT FEEL ITS SQUUUSHED FROM ALL THE FAT AND WATER BUT RATHER FEEL HARD SOLID MUSCLE THERE AND GIRLS KNOW WHAT THIS FEELING MEAN....

how do you knwo you made it? you know yo made it when you are only 200lb and you get into a restaurant and everyone talk before hand btu when you enter inside there is akeward silence and stares,, THEN! you knwo you have made it,,

women will let you know if you are muscular ,, you will see it in their eyes,, their all approach changes,, they can be the biggest bitches yet moment they see a jon cena trenbolona ace addict they put on fake smile and get wet down there im telling you ,, it is like a man see a very attractive baebie looking whore with perky tits that walk to the store and look back and can imagine himself opening that space between her legs and fucking her because their space betwen legs is always big lol you can tell when they pass by you that they been around lol same for them when they see trenbolona ace bodybuilder,, sudenly all the power and strength translates into visual  in their eyes,, they can see it via muscles and good skin tone that becomes very good due to it wrapping the muscle tight,, they can see the MUSCLES ,, they can see seperation ,, breath and live cheeta,, and women recognize it with manlihood,, especialy in americana!

gh15 approved

True advice here
You seem to know alot about girls , tell us more


Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: Benoitlapierre on October 21, 2011, 12:14:05 PM
on tren im so fukcing insane , whoever my girlfriend,  it divorced within 3 weeks

 i pay her vacation last 2 weeks of contest prep , n stay alone n even me cant stand myself lol


 
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: the trainer on October 21, 2011, 12:18:14 PM
I dont think this had anything to do with tren even though i started 2 weeks ago. Im 34 I was at the gas station some dingy young girl started talking to me sweet and cute but a lil nerdy looking. I didnt think anything bout it but out of sheer training I found a reason to give her my #. later that night she started texting and told me she just turned 19. My face is broke out bad from the starting the tren and heavy cycle so I thought no chance. This girl keeps texting me saying she was cold I told her Im cold to she asks can if I pick her up i think about it and go she tells me she dont want to fool around but an hour later has all her cloths of saying she wants a bf lol then she tells me before she leaves she has a 18yo gf lol and her gf would like me to this shit cant get any crazyier her mom let her come with me and ould give a fuck less to :o so tommoro if her and her friends home alone she wants me to go there and eat her 18yo friend out and do them both but ill belive it when i see it. She wasnt super hot but when your 34 any decent- 19 yo is pretty hot :) so one more yay for tren. If i do go with them both tommoro ill try to take at least a pic for proof

 How are you going to fuck both of them with your limp dick from tren, i do not think they will be impress by you jerking off your dead dick in front of them.
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: g101 on October 21, 2011, 12:30:38 PM
on tren im so fukcing insane , whoever my girlfriend,  it divorced within 3 weeks

 ;D
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: SamsonD on October 21, 2011, 12:40:16 PM
How are you going to fuck both of them with your limp dick from tren, i do not think they will be impress by you jerking off your dead dick in front of them.
You must use bad tren,  cause real tren will make you hard as a mother fucker and have you wanting to fuck like crazy.
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: the trainer on October 21, 2011, 12:56:11 PM
You must use bad tren,  cause real tren will make you hard as a mother fucker and have you wanting to fuck like crazy.

 You are the one that got ripped off cause everybody knows that high doses of tren will make your dick limp so if you are taking tren and its making you horny then that is not tren dumbass.
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: GroinkTropin on October 21, 2011, 12:59:28 PM
Tren does something to my body...makes my muscles HEAVY, heavy and DENSE. Makes me lean yes but the heavy feeling my muscles have is something else. Makes them look 3d, it's quite amazing.
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: g101 on October 21, 2011, 01:09:58 PM
Tren does something to my body...makes my muscles HEAVY, heavy and DENSE. Makes me lean yes but the heavy feeling my muscles have is something else. Makes them look 3d, it's quite amazing.

Add GH to it  :D
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: GroinkTropin on October 21, 2011, 01:11:42 PM
Add GH to it  :D

Send me some fucking money and I will!
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: chess315 on October 21, 2011, 02:11:10 PM
 Years ago when I first learned about steroids and didnt know much tren was my first cycle 700mg a week I made from cattle pellets that was hell made you really crazy. This time I started at only 300mg with 900mg eq and 750 test its not that bad I can feel the tren dreams and slight trouble sleeping and tren cough but all very tolerable. Im gonna slowly build to the higher dose over the next yr. I should be able to add in hgh in  decent dose for the first time in the next 2 or 3 months. I dont really wanna add the gh unless i can do 10ius for a while. This last 6 months is my first time trying to bodybuild per say before that I just did a gram of test here and there and went to the gym and did a fullbody workout a few times a week. This is by far the largest cycle I have done.
Title: Re: the best exemple of tren condition
Post by: GroinkTropin on October 21, 2011, 02:20:04 PM
Tren is one of the most benign steroids when it comes to side effects. It seems to thicken the blood, true, but is not hepatoxic and does not seem to aggravate blood pressure. It's as safe a steroid as you can find.
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: GroinkTropin on October 21, 2011, 02:23:46 PM
Years ago when I first learned about steroids and didnt know much tren was my first cycle 700mg a week I made from cattle pellets that was hell made you really crazy. This time I started at only 300mg with 900mg eq and 750 test its not that bad I can feel the tren dreams and slight trouble sleeping and tren cough but all very tolerable. Im gonna slowly build to the higher dose over the next yr. I should be able to add in hgh in  decent dose for the first time in the next 2 or 3 months. I dont really wanna add the gh unless i can do 10ius for a while. This last 6 months is my first time trying to bodybuild per say before that I just did a gram of test here and there and went to the gym and did a fullbody workout a few times a week. This is by far the largest cycle I have done.

The high GH doses are a lie, 4iu's of legit GH is all you need to see fantastic results. Anything above 8iu's you had better be a pro or using bunk shit.
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: almard on October 21, 2011, 02:33:03 PM
I agree high GH dose is overrated...

I once gone uo to 12 IU Legal GH and all what I gain is more water....
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: Wiggs on October 21, 2011, 02:34:16 PM
I agree high GH dose is overrated...

I once gone uo to 12 IU Legal GH and all what I gain is more water....

as gh goes up so is everything else...including food.
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: gh15 on October 21, 2011, 02:42:33 PM
You are the one that got ripped off cause everybody knows that high doses of tren will make your dick limp so if you are taking tren and its making you horny then that is not tren dumbass.


very very wrong pupil,, very very wrong,, high trenbolona ace = better fucks,, harder fucks,, and really need! to fuck ,, you will hav eot hav eporn on computer woman wont be able to keep up,, trenbolona = jesus from nazareth blood in a vial

gh15 approved
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: L.L on October 21, 2011, 02:46:11 PM
you know what I was skeptical about lowering Propioneta while increasing the trenbolona. I was afraid  my dick will go limp on me.. fuck no , im hornier now  than when i was taking 850g of test weekly....and im only taking 300mg of test versus 500 of Tren...of ocurse i will increase the tren as weeks go by..
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: bugsy187 on October 21, 2011, 02:47:38 PM
You must not be attracted to the girl in front of you..if you're not getting your dick up. with the right girl and situation you can pretty much get your dick up on anything..even deca. Tren is highly androgenic....androgens give you libido...so use logic and put the two together.
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: GroinkTropin on October 21, 2011, 02:50:57 PM
very very wrong pupil,, very very wrong,, high trenbolona ace = better fucks,, harder fucks,, and really need! to fuck ,, you will hav eot hav eporn on computer woman wont be able to keep up,, trenbolona = jesus from nazareth blood in a vial

gh15 approved

I think tren dick is a myth! Never happened to me. Most likely people who get it have fucked with their estrogen levels with anti aromatase products. On letro I couldn't get an erection for two solid weeks, cut it out and presto hard dick again!

Drop the test dosage and cut out the anti-aromatase blockers people!!! high tren, high win, low to very low test and you will be golden!!!
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: gh15 on October 21, 2011, 02:51:32 PM
The high GH doses are a lie, 4iu's of legit GH is all you need to see fantastic results. Anything above 8iu's you had better be a pro or using bunk shit.

this is whrre seperation between gym rat and profesional or top amatuer happen as of 2000,,


4 iu gh will always keep you in the 200lb 6% zone ,, seen that been that etc,, the big growth come when increasing the hgh ...and going into mutation drive,, and i will explain so its understood

listen carefuly fellas so its understood,,


ANY LEGIT HGH WILL DECREASE I REAPEAT I REAPEAT THIS IS BIBLE INDEX WILL D E C R E A S E BLOOD SUGAR AS IN BLOOD GLUCOSE POST INJECT,, NOT INCREASE! BUT DECREASE! YES YES YOU GOT THAT RIGHT ,, REAL LEGIT PURE HIGH QUALITY GH WILL ALWAYS DECREASE BLOOD SUGAR NOT INCREASE MY FRIENDLY FRIENDS,,

NOW....WHAT WE DO IS THIS!

WE INJECT THE HGH AND BLOOD SUGAR GO DOWN WITHIN 10 -40 MIN ,, WHAT WE DO THEN IN THIS TIME PERIOD WE TAKE IN SUGAAAAARRRRRR
REMEMBER THOSE PINAPPLE JUICES IM TALKIN ABOUT LAL THE TIME,, REMEMBER THOSE BANANAS IM TALKIN ABOUT? YES YES,, WE TAKE IT INNNNN IN THIS PERIOD OF TIME....NOW...AND THIS IS IMPORTANT,,

WE GIVE IT A DOUBLLLLLLLLLLLLLLE DOUBLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLE DOUBLLLLLLLLLLLE! PUNCH BECAUSEEEE NOT ONLY WE GET GLUCOSE DROP FROM GH BUT WE PUT IN SOME INSULIN.....WHY WE DO IT?


BECAUSE THEN WE CAN BE NORMAL HUMAN BEINGS AND DRINNK LIKE MAMACITA AND HER 3 FAT KIDS BUNCH OF SUGAR AND GET BIGGER AND LEANER! TA DA!

DOUBLE PUNCH OF GH AND INSULINA ...BOOM SUGAR AND IT NEVER TURN TO FAT....WHAT IT DOES IT ...IT GETS IN THE MUSCLE VOLUMZING THEM......YES YES NOW YOU GET THE REAL IDEA OF HOW YOU GET MUTATION ,, THIS IS PART OF IT BUT QUITE A BIG PART,,

SO HGH FIRST...

THEN WE PUT IN THE PINEAPPLE CANS...HGH WORK NO MATTER WHAT YOU EAT ALL THIS FASTING BALONIE IS BUNCH OF BALONIE

ANDDDD.....THENNNNNNN WHEN WE HAVE THE BUNCH OF REBOUD SUGAR FROM THE NATURAL PINEAPPLE .....AND BANANAS.....ETC.....WE LOAD THE INSULINA AND SHOOT IT! AND WHAT WILL IT DO FRIENDS? YOU GOT THAT RIGHT ....IT WIL PUSH ALLLLL THIS NEW SUGAR INTO THE MUSCLE INTOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THE DAMN MUSCLE AND GROW YOU INTO NEW DIMENTION!

thats it,,,this is 75% of mutation,, the 25 other % is trenbolona ace in high enough doses

hgh mattter big time doses of it matter,, NOT FOR NOTHING DID I CALL MYSELF GH15,, and 15 is the least least the top do ,, they do much closer to 30-40 iu every single day

gh15 approved


Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: lesaucer on October 21, 2011, 02:59:27 PM
very very wrong pupil,, very very wrong,, high trenbolona ace = better fucks,, harder fucks,, and really need! to fuck ,, you will hav eot hav eporn on computer woman wont be able to keep up,, trenbolona = jesus from nazareth blood in a vial

gh15 approved

ROFL

 truth tho
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: GroinkTropin on October 21, 2011, 03:07:00 PM
this is whrre seperation between gym rat and profesional or top amatuer happen as of 2000,,


4 iu gh will always keep you in the 200lb 6% zone ,, seen that been that etc,, the big growth come when increasing the hgh ...and going into mutation drive,, and i will explain so its understood

listen carefuly fellas so its understood,,


ANY LEGIT HGH WILL DECREASE I REAPEAT I REAPEAT THIS IS BIBLE INDEX WILL D E C R E A S E BLOOD SUGAR AS IN BLOOD GLUCOSE POST INJECT,, NOT INCREASE! BUT DECREASE! YES YES YOU GOT THAT RIGHT ,, REAL LEGIT PURE HIGH QUALITY GH WILL ALWAYS DECREASE BLOOD SUGAR NOT INCREASE MY FRIENDLY FRIENDS,,

NOW....WHAT WE DO IS THIS!

WE INJECT THE HGH AND BLOOD SUGAR GO DOWN WITHIN 10 -40 MIN ,, WHAT WE DO THEN IN THIS TIME PERIOD WE TAKE IN SUGAAAAARRRRRR
REMEMBER THOSE PINAPPLE JUICES IM TALKIN ABOUT LAL THE TIME,, REMEMBER THOSE BANANAS IM TALKIN ABOUT? YES YES,, WE TAKE IT INNNNN IN THIS PERIOD OF TIME....NOW...AND THIS IS IMPORTANT,,

WE GIVE IT A DOUBLLLLLLLLLLLLLLE DOUBLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLE DOUBLLLLLLLLLLLE! PUNCH BECAUSEEEE NOT ONLY WE GET GLUCOSE DROP FROM GH BUT WE PUT IN SOME INSULIN.....WHY WE DO IT?


BECAUSE THEN WE CAN BE NORMAL HUMAN BEINGS AND DRINNK LIKE MAMACITA AND HER 3 FAT KIDS BUNCH OF SUGAR AND GET BIGGER AND LEANER! TA DA!

DOUBLE PUNCH OF GH AND INSULINA ...BOOM SUGAR AND IT NEVER TURN TO FAT....WHAT IT DOES IT ...IT GETS IN THE MUSCLE VOLUMZING THEM......YES YES NOW YOU GET THE REAL IDEA OF HOW YOU GET MUTATION ,, THIS IS PART OF IT BUT QUITE A BIG PART,,

SO HGH FIRST...

THEN WE PUT IN THE PINEAPPLE CANS...HGH WORK NO MATTER WHAT YOU EAT ALL THIS FASTING BALONIE IS BUNCH OF BALONIE

ANDDDD.....THENNNNNNN WHEN WE HAVE THE BUNCH OF REBOUD SUGAR FROM THE NATURAL PINEAPPLE .....AND BANANAS.....ETC.....WE LOAD THE INSULINA AND SHOOT IT! AND WHAT WILL IT DO FRIENDS? YOU GOT THAT RIGHT ....IT WIL PUSH ALLLLL THIS NEW SUGAR INTO THE MUSCLE INTOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THE DAMN MUSCLE AND GROW YOU INTO NEW DIMENTION!

thats it,,,this is 75% of mutation,, the 25 other % is trenbolona ace in high enough doses

hgh mattter big time doses of it matter,, NOT FOR NOTHING DID I CALL MYSELF GH15,, and 15 is the least least the top do ,, they do much closer to 30-40 iu every single day

gh15 approved




Truth in this post, but I think the guy I was talking to does not want to be a pro. Your advice is sage for IFBB pro's or wannabes, but for the rest of us normal (sort of) humans great changes can be seen at lower doses of GH.
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: gh15 on October 21, 2011, 03:08:43 PM
Truth in this post, but I think the guy I was talking to does not want to be a pro. Your advice is sage for IFBB pro's or wannabes, but for the rest of us normal (sort of) humans great changes can be seen at lower doses of GH.

correct!

on 5 iu gh a day you can achieve a sagi kalev look which is the most prefered look by male or female on bodybuild ,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: L.L on October 21, 2011, 03:19:48 PM
correct!

on 5 iu gh a day you can achieve a sagi kalev look which is the most prefered look by male or female on bodybuild ,,

gh15 approved



I'm on my 3rd week of prep...running 300mgs of Prop, 500-600 tren A , 400mgs of masteron..how many  ius of gh you reccomend during cutting phases? i can afford up to 10 ius daily
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: GroinkTropin on October 21, 2011, 03:26:56 PM


I'm on my 3rd week of prep...running 300mgs of Prop, 500-600 tren A , 400mgs of masteron..how many  ius of gh you reccomend during cutting phases? i can afford up to 10 ius daily

10iu's obviously!!!! With GH it's always about what you can afford. Unless you just want to lean out and then 4-8iu's is more than enough. For show prep, IF YOU WANT TO WIN, as much as you can afford.

Truth.
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: Swlabr on October 21, 2011, 03:30:20 PM


I'm on my 3rd week of prep...running 300mgs of Prop, 500-600 tren A , 400mgs of masteron..how many  ius of gh you reccomend during cutting phases? i can afford up to 10 ius daily

General rule of thumb for GH: run as much as you can possibly afford!
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: ChristopherA on October 21, 2011, 03:55:30 PM


I'm on my 3rd week of prep...running 300mgs of Prop, 500-600 tren A , 400mgs of masteron..how many  ius of gh you reccomend during cutting phases? i can afford up to 10 ius daily
Seems like you are running exactly what I want to. Dosage and everything. How tall are you and what are you gonna peak at weight-wise? Havent touched anythin in over 2yrs and i'm ready to go!
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: GroinkTropin on October 21, 2011, 04:16:54 PM
The tren ace should be about 80mgs ED and the masteron swapped with winstrol (my opinion) the win@ 50-75mgs ED. Prop is perfect, 300 is perfect.
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: chess315 on October 21, 2011, 05:16:54 PM
my threesome has yet to materialize :(  but hey I did get the one and we gained an excellent post out of gh15 from the whole incident :)
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: L.L on October 21, 2011, 05:31:06 PM
Seems like you are running exactly what I want to. Dosage and everything. How tall are you and what are you gonna peak at weight-wise? Havent touched anythin in over 2yrs and i'm ready to go!

5'10 229 right now..as far as at what weight i  will end up i have no idea..dont care about number , just wanna get peeled with plenty of fullness
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: dyslexic on October 21, 2011, 05:31:33 PM

Pure poetry !


Gotta love him.


Sometimes I do catch myself wishing I could see what he looks like...


So I could shag him.  ;D
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: L.L on October 21, 2011, 05:41:23 PM
10iu's obviously!!!! With GH it's always about what you can afford. Unless you just want to lean out and then 4-8iu's is more than enough. For show prep, IF YOU WANT TO WIN, as much as you can afford.

Truth.


dont we want gh out during PREPS to hold less water and get drier with trenbolona and masterona??
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: Brocty on October 21, 2011, 05:44:32 PM



ANY LEGIT HGH WILL DECREASE I REAPEAT I REAPEAT THIS IS BIBLE INDEX WILL D E C R E A S E BLOOD SUGAR AS IN BLOOD GLUCOSE POST INJECT,, NOT INCREASE! BUT DECREASE! YES YES YOU GOT THAT RIGHT ,, REAL LEGIT PURE HIGH QUALITY GH WILL ALWAYS DECREASE BLOOD SUGAR NOT INCREASE MY FRIENDLY FRIENDS,,

NOW....WHAT WE DO IS THIS!

WE INJECT THE HGH AND BLOOD SUGAR GO DOWN WITHIN 10 -40 MIN ,, WHAT WE DO THEN IN THIS TIME PERIOD WE TAKE IN SUGAAAAARRRRRR
REMEMBER THOSE PINAPPLE JUICES IM TALKIN ABOUT LAL THE TIME,, REMEMBER THOSE BANANAS IM TALKIN ABOUT? YES YES,, WE TAKE IT INNNNN IN THIS PERIOD OF TIME....NOW...AND THIS IS IMPORTANT,,

WE GIVE IT A DOUBLLLLLLLLLLLLLLE DOUBLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLE DOUBLLLLLLLLLLLE! PUNCH BECAUSEEEE NOT ONLY WE GET GLUCOSE DROP FROM GH BUT WE PUT IN SOME INSULIN.....WHY WE DO IT?





GH15, would it still be a good idea to slam sugar just with GH (no slin) post injection, for a fella who is around 6% on 10 ius eod  (split into 2 doses morning and post workout) and on tren, prop and EQ and a touch of mast.  Want to keep mutating and keep the bf down.  Usually have high sugar after pwo injection but thinking of adding it to breakfeast after reading your post.  
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: GroinkTropin on October 21, 2011, 05:46:40 PM

dont we want gh out during PREPS to hold less water and get drier with trenbolona and masterona??

No, GH just needs to be cut a few days out to eliminate water. It preserves muscle and burns fat, exactly the environment you want to cultivate pre-contest.
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: Brocty on October 21, 2011, 05:48:05 PM

dont we want gh out during PREPS to hold less water and get drier with trenbolona and masterona??

GH will allow you to keep the food intake high, keeping the weight up and still getting ripped by the day.  Contributes to a full 3 d look.  Hear a lot of guys dropping it a few weeks early to allow the water to come off
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: L.L on October 21, 2011, 05:49:08 PM
Alright , i was gonna wait until i was extremely lean and then mutate by bumping the gh  but fuck it ...10 ius here I come. ;D
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: gh15 on October 21, 2011, 06:42:23 PM
Alright , i was gonna wait until i was extremely lean and then mutate by bumping the gh  but fuck it ...10 ius here I come. ;D

rememeber! you hold some water on hgh ...even after water go down initial water that is...you still hold some water, you will have to take it out before competition or before you want to relaly look dry...with hgh you never look real dry you may look shreded but not dry shreded ,, you need off gh for few weeks to see dry shreded

gh15 approved
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: gh15 on October 21, 2011, 06:45:15 PM
GH15, would it still be a good idea to slam sugar just with GH (no slin) post injection, for a fella who is around 6% on 10 ius eod  (split into 2 doses morning and post workout) and on tren, prop and EQ and a touch of mast.  Want to keep mutating and keep the bf down.  Usually have high sugar after pwo injection but thinking of adding it to breakfeast after reading your post.  

i always downed and still do pine apples as much as i can lol all day long cans over cans,, the small ones,, well not 20 a day but a good 6 to 8 small cans a day at least of pine apple juice real one not the fake balonie the real natural sugar,, that thing is good for liver it helps big time with everything and ofcourse sugar that hgh and insulina user got to have inorder to mutate

yes you can use sugar after gh intake ,, try to use natural sugar like pine apple like banana..etc not processed sugar

gh15 approved

gh15 approved
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: L.L on October 21, 2011, 06:49:59 PM
rememeber! you hold some water on hgh ...even after water go down initial water that is...you still hold some water, you will have to take it out before competition or before you want to relaly look dry...with hgh you never look real dry you may look shreded but not dry shreded ,, you need off gh for few weeks to see dry shreded

gh15 approved

gotcha!!!
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: leadhead on October 21, 2011, 07:18:47 PM
very very wrong pupil,, very very wrong,, high trenbolona ace = better fucks,, harder fucks,, and really need! to fuck ,, you will hav eot hav eporn on computer woman wont be able to keep up,, trenbolona = jesus from nazareth blood in a vial

gh15 approved

Qft. My last cycle of 500+ tren and 500 prop and I was screwing my ex 3-4 times a day or more. My daughter was conceived off that cycle ;D

Damn I wish I had a few fina and prop kits now lol
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: DK II on October 21, 2011, 09:00:54 PM
very very wrong pupil,, very very wrong,, high trenbolona ace = better fucks,, harder fucks,, and really need! to fuck ,, you will hav eot hav eporn on computer woman wont be able to keep up,, trenbolona = jesus from nazareth blood in a vial

gh15 approved

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: Brocty on October 21, 2011, 09:03:48 PM
i always downed and still do pine apples as much as i can lol all day long cans over cans,, the small ones,, well not 20 a day but a good 6 to 8 small cans a day at least of pine apple juice real one not the fake balonie the real natural sugar,, that thing is good for liver it helps big time with everything and ofcourse sugar that hgh and insulina user got to have inorder to mutate

yes you can use sugar after gh intake ,, try to use natural sugar like pine apple like banana..etc not processed sugar

gh15 approved

gh15 approved

Noted!
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: notsureifsrs on October 22, 2011, 12:57:53 AM
i always downed and still do pine apples as much as i can lol all day long cans over cans,, the small ones,, well not 20 a day but a good 6 to 8 small cans a day at least of pine apple juice real one not the fake balonie the real natural sugar,, that thing is good for liver it helps big time with everything and ofcourse sugar that hgh and insulina user got to have inorder to mutate

yes you can use sugar after gh intake ,, try to use natural sugar like pine apple like banana..etc not processed sugar

gh15 approved

gh15 approved
That explains why Shawn Ray was eating all that fruits after workouts

Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: gh15 on October 22, 2011, 01:18:08 AM
That explains why Shawn Ray was eating all that fruits after workouts




he is the LEAST filt liar,, he is ok i like chiwawa,, he always tryied to pass on some truth with the lies,, ofcourse he cant go tell everyone HELLO IM CHIWAWA AND IM ON TRENBOLONA ACE AND I NEED TO SELL YOU SOME BALONIE,, but yes his diet...if you can read between the lines...when its prep...yes this is pretty much it ,,today its much more linient due to much more gh used

gh15 approved
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: gh15 on October 22, 2011, 01:24:49 AM
also one more thing,, the importance of carbs,, fellas keep talking about protien but no,, the importance of carbs!! this is the key! protien you just need enough ...carbs you need to knwo how to cycle and you need to know how important it is to diet on high carbs,,orvile and myself both used to do it,, we diet on high carbs it is very important when on high hgh and high trenbolona ,,carb and glycogen are the name of the game when it come to muscle apperance,,bodyfat go down no matter what on gh and trenbolona ,, if 2 months not enough for you ...you do it in 4 months ,, but bodyfat come down on gh and trenbolona like there is no tomorow ....usualy within couple to  few weeks

gh15 approved
Title: Re: thank you gh15 :) tren
Post by: pellius on October 22, 2011, 03:34:23 AM
this is whrre seperation between gym rat and profesional or top amatuer happen as of 2000,,


4 iu gh will always keep you in the 200lb 6% zone ,, seen that been that etc,, the big growth come when increasing the hgh ...and going into mutation drive,, and i will explain so its understood

listen carefuly fellas so its understood,,


ANY LEGIT HGH WILL DECREASE I REAPEAT I REAPEAT THIS IS BIBLE INDEX WILL D E C R E A S E BLOOD SUGAR AS IN BLOOD GLUCOSE POST INJECT,, NOT INCREASE! BUT DECREASE! YES YES YOU GOT THAT RIGHT ,, REAL LEGIT PURE HIGH QUALITY GH WILL ALWAYS DECREASE BLOOD SUGAR NOT INCREASE MY FRIENDLY FRIENDS,,

NOW....WHAT WE DO IS THIS!

WE INJECT THE HGH AND BLOOD SUGAR GO DOWN WITHIN 10 -40 MIN ,, WHAT WE DO THEN IN THIS TIME PERIOD WE TAKE IN SUGAAAAARRRRRR
REMEMBER THOSE PINAPPLE JUICES IM TALKIN ABOUT LAL THE TIME,, REMEMBER THOSE BANANAS IM TALKIN ABOUT? YES YES,, WE TAKE IT INNNNN IN THIS PERIOD OF TIME....NOW...AND THIS IS IMPORTANT,,

WE GIVE IT A DOUBLLLLLLLLLLLLLLE DOUBLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLE DOUBLLLLLLLLLLLE! PUNCH BECAUSEEEE NOT ONLY WE GET GLUCOSE DROP FROM GH BUT WE PUT IN SOME INSULIN.....WHY WE DO IT?


BECAUSE THEN WE CAN BE NORMAL HUMAN BEINGS AND DRINNK LIKE MAMACITA AND HER 3 FAT KIDS BUNCH OF SUGAR AND GET BIGGER AND LEANER! TA DA!

DOUBLE PUNCH OF GH AND INSULINA ...BOOM SUGAR AND IT NEVER TURN TO FAT....WHAT IT DOES IT ...IT GETS IN THE MUSCLE VOLUMZING THEM......YES YES NOW YOU GET THE REAL IDEA OF HOW YOU GET MUTATION ,, THIS IS PART OF IT BUT QUITE A BIG PART,,

SO HGH FIRST...

THEN WE PUT IN THE PINEAPPLE CANS...HGH WORK NO MATTER WHAT YOU EAT ALL THIS FASTING BALONIE IS BUNCH OF BALONIE

ANDDDD.....THENNNNNNN WHEN WE HAVE THE BUNCH OF REBOUD SUGAR FROM THE NATURAL PINEAPPLE .....AND BANANAS.....ETC.....WE LOAD THE INSULINA AND SHOOT IT! AND WHAT WILL IT DO FRIENDS? YOU GOT THAT RIGHT ....IT WIL PUSH ALLLLL THIS NEW SUGAR INTO THE MUSCLE INTOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THE DAMN MUSCLE AND GROW YOU INTO NEW DIMENTION!

thats it,,,this is 75% of mutation,, the 25 other % is trenbolona ace in high enough doses

hgh mattter big time doses of it matter,, NOT FOR NOTHING DID I CALL MYSELF GH15,, and 15 is the least least the top do ,, they do much closer to 30-40 iu every single day

gh15 approved




So you always eat right after hgh. How long do you wait after eating before you use insulin?

And is there a ration of hgh to insulin? Don't you have to take at least 8iu gh before you even consider insulin and if so how much insulin does someone start out with?