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Title: If a calorie is just a calorie, then ...
Post by: SF1900 on October 16, 2011, 08:15:16 PM
Is a protein just a protein? So, for example, instead of eating 1 piece of chicken that has 25g of protein, can I eat 20 snicker bars that equal 25g of protein?  :o :o I mean, Im still getting protein?

Can anyone please speak on this.
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Post by: Coach is Back! on October 16, 2011, 09:11:14 PM
Is a protein just a protein? So, for example, instead of eating 1 piece of chicken that has 25g of protein, can I eat 20 snicker bars that equal 25g of protein?  :o :o I mean, Im still getting protein?

Can anyone please speak on this.

According to TA, Wavelength and a few others....yes.
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Post by: gh15 on October 16, 2011, 09:19:14 PM
you main source of prtien as bodybuild should be egg whites ,, then fish sushi preferbly ,, then all the rest chiken and beef

you need to make sure you have inside your body 1 or 2 of thsoe sources of protien on a daily basis ,, either eggwhite and fish or chieken and beef or fish and chiken or eggwhite and beef

you need to make sure protien is high ,, doesnt have to be super high just a good 200-400 gram a day for  lean 200lb bodybuilder ,, somwhere around the 250-320 is good ,, you can have much more if you are on hgh and we do much more when we are on hgh,,

carbs should be HIGH HIGH HIGH HIGH HIGH ,, this thing with low carbs fuck you up all the time,, high carb then cycle coupel low carbs but mostly high carbs when on the hormones i mention ,, you need that carbs when on hgh and on trenbolona ,, when you body is fat burning machine when you want big muscle when you want to thicken up and seperate from within you need the fuckin carbs!

kit kats ummmm i dont know i dont like candies much,, icecream much better ,, icecream is important tool in bodybuild arsenal we LOVE FUCKIN ICECREAM even the lactose intolerate bodybuild can deal well with icecream ,,icecream is important,,then you got all the fun with burgers and pizza but it need to be done in moderation and knwo your body well ,, you just cant sit eat 5 times a day mcdonald and expect to step on stage no matter how much trenbolona and hgh in you because yes you will be 6% but it wont be good enough and you will be wet 6% not dry 6%

so when i say to you anything you want to it there is also moderation taken into account,, you can eat icecream every day yes....but if you do it dont fuckin go at 2 am right after the icecream into denis for a coffee and desert cake

gh15 approved
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Post by: YoungBlood on October 16, 2011, 09:21:58 PM


Sure, you can eat your Snickers and get the 25g of protein you would get from the chicken breast. But unlike the chicken breast, you will have loads of carbs and much more fat in addition to those grams of protein.

It's not just calories, but also the ratio of calories as well.
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Post by: SF1900 on October 16, 2011, 09:23:33 PM
you main source of prtien as bodybuild should be egg whites ,, then fish sushi preferbly ,, then all the rest chiken and beef

you need to make sure you have inside your body 1 or 2 of thsoe sources of protien on a daily basis ,, either eggwhite and fish or chieken and beef or fish and chiken or eggwhite and beef

you need to make sure protien is high ,, doesnt have to be super high just a good 200-400 gram a day for  lean 200lb bodybuilder ,, somwhere around the 250-320 is good ,, you can have much more if you are on hgh and we do much more when we are on hgh,,

carbs should be HIGH HIGH HIGH HIGH HIGH ,, this thing with low carbs fuck you up all the time,, high carb then cycle coupel low carbs but mostly high carbs when on the hormones i mention ,, you need that carbs when on hgh and on trenbolona ,, when you body is fat burning machine when you want big muscle when you want to thicken up and seperate from within you need the fuckin carbs!

kit kats ummmm i dont know i dont like candies much,, icecream much better ,, icecream is important tool in bodybuild arsenal we LOVE FUCKIN ICECREAM even the lactose intolerate bodybuild can deal well with icecream ,,icecream is important,,then you got all the fun with burgers and pizza but it need to be done in moderation and knwo your body well ,, you just cant sit eat 5 times a day mcdonald and expect to step on stage no matter how much trenbolona and hgh in you because yes you will be 6% but it wont be good enough and you will be wet 6% not dry 6%

so when i say to you anything you want to it there is also moderation taken into account,, you can eat icecream every day yes....but if you do it dont fuckin go at 2 am right after the icecream into denis for a coffee and desert cake

gh15 approved

GH15, why are eggs so important to you? Also, whats so good about ice cream?
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Post by: gh15 on October 16, 2011, 09:31:21 PM
eggwhite are important because body like it ,, it is most digestable you can drink it pasturized and it will all go into where it need to be 80-90% of it will be absorbed by body and utilized,, body like it ...its light on the body ,, it is very fast way to get protien ,, very efficient and effective,, it fills you up well for the time you need until next meal,, its not heavy ,, its just superb source of protien

icecream is a must for any bodybuild becaue when on trenbolona and hgh ....either or ,, even if you cycle in and out the hgh still...the body burn fat so fast,, the lean muscle grow so fast...the changes happen so fast ...that your body needs this milky tecture of nutrients to slow suply the body with something to work on ,, this is diery and slower to digest ,, it is fun to eat ,, it is yum good for brain ,, it fills you up and togethe rwith trenbolona and hgh it created superb fullness and rippdness,,

remember arnold used to eat icecream every night thats was his shake ,,, he did his shakes there were no protien powder balonie,, eggwhites and icecream mixed together lol  that was it...

icecream is highly important for bodybuild on the right hormones,, but! as with eveyrthing....there is icecream that is not good...ben and jerry NOT GOOD too much balonie too much fat too much sugar too much cream ,, there are icecreams that suiting bodybuilder better and they are the reaseas penut butter by brayer or whatyever there name is,, etc

gh15 approved
Title: Re: IF A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE.............................
Post by: SF1900 on October 16, 2011, 09:33:35 PM
eggwhite are important because body like it ,, it is most digestable you can drink it pasturized and it will all go into where it need to be 80-90% of it will be absorbed by body and utilized,, body like it ...its light on the body ,, it is very fast way to get protien ,, very efficient and effective,, it fills you up well for the time you need until next meal,, its not heavy ,, its just superb source of protien

icecream is a must for any bodybuild becaue when on trenbolona and hgh ....either or ,, even if you cycle in and out the hgh still...the body burn fat so fast,, the lean muscle grow so fast...the changes happen so fast ...that your body needs this milky tecture of nutrients to slow suply the body with something to work on ,, this is diery and slower to digest ,, it is fun to eat ,, it is yum good for brain ,, it fills you up and togethe rwith trenbolona and hgh it created superb fullness and rippdness,,

remember arnold used to eat icecream every night thats was his shake ,,, he did his shakes there were no protien powder balonie,, eggwhites and icecream mixed together lol  that was it...

icecream is highly important for bodybuild on the right hormones,, but! as with eveyrthing....there is icecream that is not good...ben and jerry NOT GOOD too much balonie too much fat too much sugar too much cream ,, there are icecreams that suiting bodybuilder better and they are the reaseas penut butter by brayer or whatyever there name is,, etc

gh15 approved

 :D :D :D

(http://www.coastgrocery.com/pages/uploads/Products/i2JdzpBreyersReesesIceCream2qt.jpg)
Title: Re: IF A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE.............................
Post by: gh15 on October 16, 2011, 09:35:48 PM
^ thats right ,, you ask what liar priest do inaddition to taking the all you can eat hormoen kitchen buffet ? he ate that damn icecream ,, thats what he did ,, he didnt hav eno steroid boardings to tell him to be careful becuase he will have too much estrogenic component alpha coming out of the beta cells to penetrate through his asshole into the adipose tissue of his left nipple,, he just sat and ate that damn icecream with eggwhites and lots of trenbolona and hgh and anadrola lol

gh15 approved
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Post by: SF1900 on October 16, 2011, 09:40:52 PM
^ thats right ,, you ask what liar priest do inaddition to taking the all you can eat hormoen kitchen buffet ? he ate that damn icecream ,, thats what he did ,, he didnt hav eno steroid boardings to tell him to be careful becuase he will have too much estrogenic component alpha coming out of the beta cells to penetrate through his asshole into the adipose tissue of his left nipple,, he just sat and ate that damn icecream with eggwhites and lots of trenbolona and hgh and anadrola lol

gh15 approved

GH15, I always thought red meat was a huge part of bodybuilding diet. but now you say egg whites are better. hmmmm
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Post by: gh15 on October 16, 2011, 09:44:01 PM
red meat ,, lean red meat is a way to do it yes,, but ask matarazza is he recomend it ,, go find him and ask him if he recomend lots of red meat with high doses of trenbolona and testosterona and anadrola ,, listen to his answer,, red meat is ok in moderation ,, shoudnt elminate it but in moderation

gh15 approved
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Post by: SF1900 on October 16, 2011, 09:50:32 PM
red meat ,, lean red meat is a way to do it yes,, but ask matarazza is he recomend it ,, go find him and ask him if he recomend lots of red meat with high doses of trenbolona and testosterona and anadrola ,, listen to his answer,, red meat is ok in moderation ,, shoudnt elminate it but in moderation

gh15 approved

Gh15, the problem is I dislike all seafood, so I have to rely on red meat, eggs and chicken...not much of a variety for me  :( :(
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Post by: apply85 on October 16, 2011, 09:58:20 PM
what about bacon? Am I allowed to eat bacon every other morning? I used to make bacon, then cook eggs and then fri toast in the bacon grease almost every morning lol, gained 25 pounds that year
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Post by: SF1900 on October 16, 2011, 10:02:10 PM
what about bacon? Am I allowed to eat bacon every other morning? I used to make bacon, then cook eggs and then fri toast in the bacon grease almost every morning lol, gained 25 pounds that year

Bacon is good stuff  :D :D
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Post by: theheman on October 16, 2011, 10:58:31 PM
red meat ,, lean red meat is a way to do it yes,, but ask matarazza is he recomend it ,, go find him and ask him if he recomend lots of red meat with high doses of trenbolona and testosterona and anadrola ,, listen to his answer,, red meat is ok in moderation ,, shoudnt elminate it but in moderation
gh15 approved

Actually I could find him and ask him but why ask him when we gh15?  I read somewhere that Arnold would eat like 5lbs of red meat.  Is this not true?  Is red meat not as good as Chris Cormier says it is?
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Post by: RadOncDoc on October 17, 2011, 12:00:02 AM
Is a protein just a protein? So, for example, instead of eating 1 piece of chicken that has 25g of protein, can I eat 20 snicker bars that equal 25g of protein?  :o :o I mean, Im still getting protein?

Can anyone please speak on this.

No, not the same. There are essential and non-essential amino acids. Gotta get the essentials from food. Doubt a snicker bar has the full complement of essential AAs.
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Post by: deceiver on October 17, 2011, 01:20:52 AM
So is this diet ok for 180lbs 5'5'' bb for tren gh15?

150g oats, 350g egg whites
100g rice, 250g chicken
100g rice, 250g chicken
100g rice, 250g chicken
50g protein from powder
on top of that fruits throughout the day
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Post by: Meso_z on October 17, 2011, 01:26:16 AM
So is this diet ok for 180lbs 5'5'' bb for tren gh15?

150g oats, 350g egg whites
100g rice, 250g chicken
100g rice, 250g chicken
100g rice, 250g chicken
50g protein from powder
on top of that fruits throughout the day

Looks great man.  8)
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Post by: wavelength on October 17, 2011, 08:56:28 AM
Is a protein just a protein? So, for example, instead of eating 1 piece of chicken that has 25g of protein, can I eat 20 snicker bars that equal 25g of protein?  :o :o I mean, Im still getting protein?

Can anyone please speak on this.

I don't know if you can eat 20 snicker bars but if they contain protein, you will probably ingest that protein in the course of eating the snicker bars.
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Post by: Tapeworm on October 17, 2011, 09:20:38 AM
But it isnt.

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Post by: Coach is Back! on October 17, 2011, 09:23:10 AM
So is this diet ok for 180lbs 5'5'' bb for tren gh15?

150g oats, 350g egg whites
100g rice, 250g chicken
100g rice, 250g chicken
100g rice, 250g chicken
50g protein from powder
on top of that fruits throughout the day


Where's the veggies?
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Post by: Tapeworm on October 17, 2011, 09:37:11 AM
Where's the veggies?

He has to be joking.  We can only hope.
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Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on October 17, 2011, 09:55:46 AM
He has to be joking.  We can only hope.

seriously. veggies are only good for maintaining health. They have no role when it comes to muscle building
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Post by: newmom on October 17, 2011, 09:56:41 AM


(http://www.coastgrocery.com/pages/uploads/Products/i2JdzpBreyersReesesIceCream2qt.jpg)

mmmmm ice cream
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Post by: Ch3micalGnetics on October 17, 2011, 08:51:44 PM
Is a protein just a protein? So, for example, instead of eating 1 piece of chicken that has 25g of protein, can I eat 20 snicker bars that equal 25g of protein?  :o :o I mean, Im still getting protein?

Can anyone please speak on this.

wheres the snickers protein come from??...peanut?? if yes, peanut protein have poor biological value...so...25gr chicken protein not equal to 25gr protein of snickers....

high biological value proteins come from animal sources....eggs, fish, chicken, etcetera etcetera..
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Post by: BIG ACH on October 17, 2011, 08:56:04 PM

Well aren't there different types of protein that your body processes differently:  Whey vs Soy vs Caseine vs egg protein etc

 8)
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Post by: Ch3micalGnetics on October 17, 2011, 09:02:35 PM
Well aren't there different types of protein that your body processes differently:  Whey vs Soy vs Caseine vs egg protein etc

 8)

all proteins have different amino acids profiles...thats why are all differents....in order to build tissue the protein must have optimal aminoacid profile... high biological proteins have them..
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Post by: Coach is Back! on October 17, 2011, 09:06:59 PM
seriously. veggies are only good for maintaining health. They have no role when it comes to muscle building

LOL....so building muscle and maintaining health have no correlation? Seriously?
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Post by: tbombz on October 17, 2011, 11:23:06 PM
youll have to eat 6 snickers bars to get 25 grams of protein and that means youll have to eat about 1500 calories.

whereas with chicken, whey, tuna, or any other source of lean protein you can get 25 grams for about 100-150 calories.


on top of that, snickers bars dont contain all the essential amino acids.

long story short...   eat meats or eggs or protein powder to get your protien. the rest of your calories can be watever you like.



LOL....so building muscle and maintaining health have no correlation? Seriously?
in fact id say the worse something is for health the better it is for body composition.
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Post by: Coach is Back! on October 17, 2011, 11:36:51 PM
You guys are missing sooo many components relating to nutrition it's kind of sad. Its not NEARLY as black and white as you think it is.
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Post by: gh15 on October 17, 2011, 11:42:02 PM



 in fact id say the worse something is for health the better it is for body composition.

ther is a lot of truth to this sentence,, im impressed,, you are right,, notice how aftr you eat pizza....and after you eat icecream ,, and agfter you eat sushi all day ....your muscles while on trenbolona will be much better looking compared to if you ate dry chiken and rice all day ,, the thicknesning happen and fast ,, and it is muscle push through the skin and with gh it is growing to new dimention so fast,,

the lie of strict diet is just that,, a lie,, no bodybuild got to be big and lean  by eating dry chiken and rice,,iot doesnt work this way ,, no one,, when we start serious competetive bodybuild we already been to bodybuild for long time and ate whatever and been on so many drugs before hand when we ate whatever and grew the most then ,, this is HOW WE THOGUHT ABOUT COMPETING!! THIS IS HOW WE GOT TO GO TO DO NATIONALS SO FAST,,, BECAUSE WE HAD THE SIZE!!

gh15 approved
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Post by: hangclean on October 17, 2011, 11:46:25 PM
ther is a lot of truth to this sentence,, im impressed,, you are right,, notice how aftr you eat pizza....and after you eat icecream ,, and agfter you eat sushi all day ....your muscles while on trenbolona will be much better looking compared to if you ate dry chiken and rice all day ,, the thicknesning happen and fast ,, and it is muscle push through the skin and with gh it is growing to new dimention so fast,,

the lie of strict diet is just that,, a lie,, no bodybuild got to be big and lean  by eating dry chiken and rice,,iot doesnt work this way ,, no one,, when we start serious competetive bodybuild we already been to bodybuild for long time and ate whatever and been on so many drugs before hand when we ate whatever and grew the most then ,, this is HOW WE THOGUHT ABOUT COMPETING!! THIS IS HOW WE GOT TO GO TO DO NATIONALS SO FAST,,, BECAUSE WE HAD THE SIZE!!

gh15 approved
most still have to diet the last few weeks, you will at least admit to that, right (not all, but most)?
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Post by: Meso_z on October 17, 2011, 11:50:45 PM
youll have to eat 6 snickers bars to get 25 grams of protein and that means youll have to eat about 1500 calories.

whereas with chicken, whey, tuna, or any other source of lean protein you can get 25 grams for about 100-150 calories.


on top of that, snickers bars dont contain all the essential amino acids.

long story short...   eat meats or eggs or protein powder to get your protien. the rest of your calories can be watever you like.


 in fact id say the worse something is for health the better it is for body composition.
How much protein per day would you say its ideal tbombz? and the remaining cals, do you just substitute them with "junk"?
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Post by: gh15 on October 17, 2011, 11:54:29 PM
most still have to diet the last few weeks, you will at least admit to that, right (not all, but most)?

duh,, lol you need to diet in prep,, at the end of prep ofcourse,, how else can you see 4%? 4% is not 6% its big diff this last 2 % this is when diet come to place

gh15 approved
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Post by: hangclean on October 17, 2011, 11:55:45 PM
duh,, lol you need to diet in prep,, at the end of prep ofcourse,, how else can you see 4%? 4% is not 6% its big diff this last 2 % this is when diet come to place

gh15 approved
NO shit.  I think the problem with all the shit this guy is spewing on here is that a lot of these kids think there is zero dieting required at any stage.  It would be nice to here him say it for once.
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Post by: deceiver on October 18, 2011, 12:29:44 AM
Where's the veggies?

I never eat them.
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Post by: Tapeworm on October 18, 2011, 02:15:01 AM
You guys are missing sooo many components relating to nutrition it's kind of sad. Its not NEARLY as black and white as you think it is.

You can only lead the horse to the water.
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Post by: RadOncDoc on October 18, 2011, 02:41:25 AM
You can only lead the horse to the water.

Yup, nutrition is not nearly as black and white as it's being made out here. That being said, I personally think all the arguments about the "best" bodybuilding are pretty worthless since dieting without steroids is an exercise in futility for all but the genetically elite (the guys who were probably already ripped before dieting). You can try all the crazy diets you want--brown rice and chicken, MacDonalds, etc.--and you're still gonna end up a twig if you do it naturally.
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Post by: Not Sure on October 18, 2011, 07:58:38 AM
Sounds like no one is listening.......GH15 is saying it over and over...( you still have to be able to read between the lines.)  Carbs are key!  It fuels the muscle, not the protein.  Quality carbs...not McD's junk and snickers( not 30 day fucking experiment, but for years, lifetime, etc) 

You ever hear of a protein deficiency? NO! 

You ever hear of a carb deficiency?  YES, "He looks flat, small, etc....."

GH15 says over and over....we don't eat dry chicken and broccoli with 1/2 cup brown rice = flat physique, why......no carbs to turn into glucose to go into the muscle for fuel......you turn very little protein/fat into glucose...very hard process on body, that's why you are flat....high protein/fat diet = nothing to store in muscle = flat looking muscle.  Sure you feel good for a while, physiological effect from loosing fat, due to that's all the body has to burn cause what you put in your mouth is not fuel, and of that shit you put in your mouth,  the body can use very little.  Why do you think they "crab up" right before a show? 

GH15 says....eat your sushi, pasta, pizza, Jamaican...etc.  All = carbs!

I disagree with the eggwhites thing, but the point is the same, he talks about carbs 10x more than eggwhites.

Yes, you need some protein, very little in relation to carbs.  As you become more active or gain more weight, your total calorie ( read carb,) requirement goes up, and protein requirement goes up to, but it does not go up more than carbs, it only goes up in relation to.

Protein plays a very small role, but just because it's role is small does not mean it is not very important.  All those studies of high protein vs. low protein are vs. under carbed people/test subjects.......or might be paid for by the protein industries.....duh! 

All the videos of the pro's eating their secret diet that is revealed to you on their DVD, and they act like no big deal.....Jay cutler eats 6 chicken breasts and 1 cup brown rice, or variation, 6 - 8 times a day......same as, "I use this protein powder/no2/creatine/blah blah" to get where I'm at today = lie.    No or minimal steroids = lie, bland high protein diet = lie, lie lie lie.  Get it? 

Take a step back from tree and look at whole forest......each tree is a lie to make a forrest of bullshit!  Gotta' start with a lot of common sense, add some GH15 and viola!  Take some hormones, eat quality carbs and become the guy in the magazine or keep taking powders and eating protein.....on your way to frustrated small guy with cardiovascular/health problems. 


Try high carb.....quality high carb ( even cleaner if you are a natural,) SEE the difference. 
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Post by: Ch3micalGnetics on October 18, 2011, 08:13:01 AM
You guys are missing sooo many components relating to nutrition it's kind of sad. Its not NEARLY as black and white as you think it is.

it is true that is not black and white....but we are discussing protein sources here....if you can isolate proteins from peanuts vs anoter protein that come from animal sources....what would be your choice?? you know its goin to be animal sources...right? because you know it has better amino acid profile....
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Post by: Coach is Back! on October 18, 2011, 08:14:50 AM
youll have to eat 6 snickers bars to get 25 grams of protein and that means youll have to eat about 1500 calories.

whereas with chicken, whey, tuna, or any other source of lean protein you can get 25 grams for about 100-150 calories.


on top of that, snickers bars dont contain all the essential amino acids.

long story short...   eat meats or eggs or protein powder to get your protien. the rest of your calories can be watever you like.


in fact id say the worse something is for health the better it is for body composition.

Geez :-\
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Post by: Devon97 on October 18, 2011, 08:15:18 AM

Sure, you can eat your Snickers and get the 25g of protein you would get from the chicken breast. But unlike the chicken breast, you will have loads of carbs and much more fat in addition to those grams of protein.

It's not just calories, but also the ratio of calories as well.

lol do people really believe this shit? ??? ::)
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Post by: wes on October 18, 2011, 08:15:24 AM
Sounds like no one is listening.......GH15 is saying it over and over...( you still have to be able to read between the lines.)  Carbs are key!  It fuels the muscle, not the protein.  Quality carbs...not McD's junk and snickers( not 30 day fucking experiment, but for years, lifetime, etc) 

You ever hear of a protein deficiency? NO! 

You ever hear of a carb deficiency?  YES, "He looks flat, small, etc....."

GH15 says over and over....we don't eat dry chicken and broccoli with 1/2 cup brown rice = flat physique, why......no carbs to turn into glucose to go into the muscle for fuel......you turn very little protein/fat into glucose...very hard process on body, that's why you are flat....high protein/fat diet = nothing to store in muscle = flat looking muscle.  Sure you feel good for a while, physiological effect from loosing fat, due to that's all the body has to burn cause what you put in your mouth is not fuel, and of that shit you put in your mouth,  the body can use very little.  Why do you think they "crab up" right before a show? 

GH15 says....eat your sushi, pasta, pizza, Jamaican...etc.  All = carbs!

I disagree with the eggwhites thing, but the point is the same, he talks about carbs 10x more than eggwhites.

Yes, you need some protein, very little in relation to carbs.  As you become more active or gain more weight, your total calorie ( read carb,) requirement goes up, and protein requirement goes up to, but it does not go up more than carbs, it only goes up in relation to.

Protein plays a very small role, but just because it's role is small does not mean it is not very important.  All those studies of high protein vs. low protein are vs. under carbed people/test subjects.......or might be paid for by the protein industries.....duh! 

All the videos of the pro's eating their secret diet that is revealed to you on their DVD, and they act like no big deal.....Jay cutler eats 6 chicken breasts and 1 cup brown rice, or variation, 6 - 8 times a day......same as, "I use this protein powder/no2/creatine/blah blah" to get where I'm at today = lie.    No or minimal steroids = lie, bland high protein diet = lie, lie lie lie.  Get it? 

Take a step back from tree and look at whole forest......each tree is a lie to make a forrest of bullshit!  Gotta' start with a lot of common sense, add some GH15 and viola!  Take some hormones, eat quality carbs and become the guy in the magazine or keep taking powders and eating protein.....on your way to frustrated small guy with cardiovascular/health problems. 


Try high carb.....quality high carb ( even cleaner if you are a natural,) SEE the difference. 
MELTDOWN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: IF A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE.............................
Post by: Meso_z on October 18, 2011, 08:59:40 AM
Sounds like no one is listening.......GH15 is saying it over and over...( you still have to be able to read between the lines.)  Carbs are key!  It fuels the muscle, not the protein.  Quality carbs...not McD's junk and snickers( not 30 day fucking experiment, but for years, lifetime, etc) 

You ever hear of a protein deficiency? NO! 

You ever hear of a carb deficiency?  YES, "He looks flat, small, etc....."

GH15 says over and over....we don't eat dry chicken and broccoli with 1/2 cup brown rice = flat physique, why......no carbs to turn into glucose to go into the muscle for fuel......you turn very little protein/fat into glucose...very hard process on body, that's why you are flat....high protein/fat diet = nothing to store in muscle = flat looking muscle.  Sure you feel good for a while, physiological effect from loosing fat, due to that's all the body has to burn cause what you put in your mouth is not fuel, and of that shit you put in your mouth,  the body can use very little.  Why do you think they "crab up" right before a show? 

GH15 says....eat your sushi, pasta, pizza, Jamaican...etc.  All = carbs!

I disagree with the eggwhites thing, but the point is the same, he talks about carbs 10x more than eggwhites.

Yes, you need some protein, very little in relation to carbs.  As you become more active or gain more weight, your total calorie ( read carb,) requirement goes up, and protein requirement goes up to, but it does not go up more than carbs, it only goes up in relation to.

Protein plays a very small role, but just because it's role is small does not mean it is not very important.  All those studies of high protein vs. low protein are vs. under carbed people/test subjects.......or might be paid for by the protein industries.....duh! 

All the videos of the pro's eating their secret diet that is revealed to you on their DVD, and they act like no big deal.....Jay cutler eats 6 chicken breasts and 1 cup brown rice, or variation, 6 - 8 times a day......same as, "I use this protein powder/no2/creatine/blah blah" to get where I'm at today = lie.    No or minimal steroids = lie, bland high protein diet = lie, lie lie lie.  Get it? 

Take a step back from tree and look at whole forest......each tree is a lie to make a forrest of bullshit!  Gotta' start with a lot of common sense, add some GH15 and viola!  Take some hormones, eat quality carbs and become the guy in the magazine or keep taking powders and eating protein.....on your way to frustrated small guy with cardiovascular/health problems. 


Try high carb.....quality high carb ( even cleaner if you are a natural,) SEE the difference. 
You must be big, full and shredded.
Title: Re: IF A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE.............................
Post by: tbombz on October 18, 2011, 09:06:04 AM
How much protein per day would you say its ideal tbombz? and the remaining cals, do you just substitute them with "junk"?
1 gram per lb lean bodyweight...   yeah, except maybe i add a tiny bit of healthy fats at times to aid in protein digestion/metabolism.. but only a little bit and only when i havent had any fats or carbs for a couple meals in a row.. like a teaspoon of olive oil..


i look and feel much much better when eating "junk" food as compared to when i try to eat "clean". seems like the body just responds much better to the feeling of being overloaded with calories at times then deprived of them at other times  rather than the slow and steady feed of "just enough" calories coming for "clean" sources.    i dont think it ever feels "fed" when you eat that way. 
Title: Re: IF A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE.............................
Post by: Meso_z on October 18, 2011, 10:05:36 AM
1 gram per lb lean bodyweight...   yeah, except maybe i add a tiny bit of healthy fats at times to aid in protein digestion/metabolism.. but only a little bit and only when i havent had any fats or carbs for a couple meals in a row.. like a teaspoon of olive oil..


i look and feel much much better when eating "junk" food as compared to when i try to eat "clean". seems like the body just responds much better to the feeling of being overloaded with calories at times then deprived of them at other times  rather than the slow and steady feed of "just enough" calories coming for "clean" sources.    i dont think it ever feels "fed" when you eat that way. 
cool man.

Im down on 4 meals a day right now and trying to do something like this...
Title: Re: IF A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE.............................
Post by: coltrane on October 18, 2011, 01:14:34 PM
GH15:  DO you have any nutritional regimines for someone who isn't on hormones? 
Title: Re: IF A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE.............................
Post by: tbombz on October 18, 2011, 01:17:43 PM
cool man.

Im down on 4 meals a day right now and trying to do something like this...

i would just go something like this

meal 1= 55 grams protein

meal 2=55 grams protein

meal 3=55 grams protein

meal 4=55 grams protein


and then whenever you feel like eating go ahead and choose whatever sounds the most appetizing to you at the moment and eat untill you feel full.  youll never be hungry and youl always be completely satisfied.
Title: Re: IF A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE.............................
Post by: Nasty Nate on October 18, 2011, 03:45:29 PM
i've been doing my prep with oats and blueberries as my carbs for 3-5 days, then when i get real flat ill eat a box of sugary cereal like froot loops or something... ill look completely different an hour after and mentally feel restored and satisfied. no amount of rice or potatoes has the same effect, ill just feel bloated in my stomach, muscles will remain flat and ill still crave "junk".

even arnold had this shit figured out back in the 70's... he'd eat high protein and low carbs through the week when gettin ready for a show, then when he'd feel really flat he'd eat an entire cake and that's what he liked to eat to fill out. tom platz said he witnessed this on an airplane one time... he said arnold's arms looked smooth and then arnold takes out a carrot cake and eats the whole thing. after he was done eating it tom said arnolds arms looked like they were gonna explode and the veins looked like garden hoses.

this is seriously the way to go... chicken and broccoli lol  ::)
Title: Re: IF A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE.............................
Post by: BigAnt on October 18, 2011, 08:00:32 PM
GH15..Didn't you also say that different "supps" work better with different protein foods?

Yes, you always said eat ice cream, another "guru diet coach" said this as well, to eat regular ice cream not the low fat kind, but he said it way after you said it....

Sushi-pizza-chinese food-bugers-bbq-panckaes do work, but like you said in moderation and depending what "supps" you take...only way to get swole...

Thanks for great info again....
Title: Re: IF A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE.............................
Post by: Not Sure on October 18, 2011, 08:14:25 PM
Quote
i've been doing my prep with oats and blueberries as my carbs for 3-5 days, then when i get real flat ill eat a box of sugary cereal like froot loops or something... ill look completely different an hour after and mentally feel restored and satisfied. no amount of rice or potatoes has the same effect, ill just feel bloated in my stomach, muscles will remain flat and ill still crave "junk".

even arnold had this shit figured out back in the 70's... he'd eat high protein and low carbs through the week when gettin ready for a show, then when he'd feel really flat he'd eat an entire cake and that's what he liked to eat to fill out. tom platz said he witnessed this on an airplane one time... he said arnold's arms looked smooth and then arnold takes out a carrot cake and eats the whole thing. after he was done eating it tom said arnolds arms looked like they were gonna explode and the veins looked like garden hoses.

this is seriously the way to go... chicken and broccoli lol 

Cake and junk = easy white sugar....just combined with lotsa fats.   Like when your mommy said, be careful who you hang out with, little Jimmy down the street has some cool toys but at the end of the day, the little asshole can't help but get in serious trouble.  Don't get dragged into it......

I think falconitis mentioned his penchant for juice with his rice....quick easy sugar ( carbs )  with his complex carbs.  That's one way to do it. 
Title: Re: IF A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE.............................
Post by: Kulutues on October 18, 2011, 09:21:29 PM
duh,, lol you need to diet in prep,, at the end of prep ofcourse,, how else can you see 4%? 4% is not 6% its big diff this last 2 % this is when diet come to place

gh15 approved

btw gh15 u lied about ice cream

breyers reese's is all high fructose corn syrup and preservatives, BEN AND JERRYS IS NATURAL AND MUCH BETTER TASTING, also much more peanut butter chunks
Title: Re: IF A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE.............................
Post by: Meso_z on October 18, 2011, 09:59:05 PM
btw gh15 u lied about ice cream

breyers reese's is all high fructose corn syrup and preservatives, BEN AND JERRYS IS NATURAL AND MUCH BETTER TASTING, also much more peanut butter chunks
::)
Title: Re: IF A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE.............................
Post by: gh15 on October 18, 2011, 10:07:38 PM
btw gh15 u lied about ice cream

breyers reese's is all high fructose corn syrup and preservatives, BEN AND JERRYS IS NATURAL AND MUCH BETTER TASTING, also much more peanut butter chunks

see i dotn have reaces right now in the freezer,, i only have some old ben and jery that sit there for 6 month ,, and i just wont touch it ,, evrytime i eat that crap i feel like i drank a bottle of canola oil mixed with 4% milk ,, so i wont eat icecream nwo until i go to store and get the right one,, reaces penut butter from breyer is good trust me on that,, it is what you want,, there are more....but ben and jerrys not one of them

gh15 approved
Title: Re: IF A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE.............................
Post by: booty on October 18, 2011, 10:11:00 PM
New Zealand icecream is very good quality.   :P
Title: Re: IF A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE.............................
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 18, 2011, 10:11:19 PM
This thread is so sad it's turned to pathetic :-\
Title: Re: IF A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE.............................
Post by: Kulutues on October 18, 2011, 10:14:00 PM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_XmWwk_DYndU/SutzVyC2jCI/AAAAAAAABMg/swRfmvC55As/s400/bnj_peanut_butter_cup.jpg)

Ingredients: Cream, Skim Milk, Liquid Sugar (Sugar, Water), Water, Peanuts, Sugar, Coconut Oil, Egg Yolks, Peanut Oil, Partially Defatted Peanut Flour, Milk, Cocoa (Processed With Alkali), Salt, Soy Lecithin, Guar Gum, Natural Flavor, Carrageenan

(http://www.breyers.com/handlers/imagehandler.ashx?id=82&type=large)

Skim Milk, Sugar, Fudge Swirl [Corn Syrup, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Water, Sugar, Cocoa, Tapioca Starch, Natural Flavor, Salt, Lactic Acid, Potassium Sorbate], Corn Syrup, REESE'SŪ Peanut Butter Cups [Milk Chocolate (Sugar, Cocoa Butter, Chocolate, Nonfat Milk, Milk Fat, Corn Syrup Solids, Soy Lecithin, Pgpr [Emulsifier]), Peanut, Sugar, Dextrose, Salt, Tbhq (Preservative)], Cream, Peanut, Maltodextrin, Dextrose, Peanut Oil, Caramel Color, Propylene Glycol Monoesters, Cellulose Gel, Cellulose Gum, Mono And Diglycerides, Salt, Carob Bean Gum, Guar Gum, Carrageenan, Vitamin A Palmitate.
Title: Re: IF A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE.............................
Post by: BIG ACH on October 18, 2011, 10:15:35 PM

Leave me with one of those Ben & Jerrys Tubs (But Cookie dough flavor) and its a fucking party  ;D
Title: Re: IF A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE.............................
Post by: gh15 on October 18, 2011, 10:16:06 PM
how about you look in the fat...and in the sugar...for half cup,,,this is what you need to look into ,, fat and sugar,, ben and jerrys is marshmeloow man waiting to happen ,, now true true if you have 30 iu of gh in your blood it wont matter what icecream you eat lol but until you can afford 30 iu gh a day i suggest you stick with breyer

gh15 approved
Title: Re: IF A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE.............................
Post by: gh15 on October 18, 2011, 10:17:12 PM
Leave me with one of those Ben & Jerrys Tubs (But Cookie dough flavor) and its a fucking party  ;D

see thats why you get fatotita,, when you eat ben and jerrys you can actualy feel FEEL in your moth the sandy sugar recture lol its disgusting this icrecream lol

gh15 approved
Title: Re: IF A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE.............................
Post by: Kulutues on October 18, 2011, 10:18:37 PM
ben and jerrys just incresed price to abot $5 a pint now though, so i dont eat it anymore

BREYERS used to make the best ice cream of all, just pure milk, cream, sugar, vanilla they were bought by Unilever and started adding gums and shit now it tastes like rubber softserve
Title: Re: IF A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE.............................
Post by: Nomad on October 18, 2011, 10:19:34 PM
Well aren't there different types of protein that your body processes differently:  Whey vs Soy vs Caseine vs egg protein etc

 8)

Screw you all

I throw into blender 4 raw eggs and 3 scoops of whey + 1 cup milk ~ 100 gram protein.

Title: Re: IF A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE.............................
Post by: gh15 on October 18, 2011, 10:20:24 PM
with breyer reases i can eat the all package if not careful something in their icecream is healthy im serious ,, i dont knwo what it is ,, it work real well with hgh and trenbolona ,, i dont know why this icecream work that much better with hgh and trenbolona but it does

gh15 approved
Title: Re: IF A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE.............................
Post by: hangclean on October 19, 2011, 01:08:18 AM
real, italian style gelato is the best kind of ice cream.
Title: Re: IF A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE.............................
Post by: gh15 on October 19, 2011, 01:09:49 AM
real italian stype teramisu is the best cake ,, this cake i eat and eat and eat i dont care what where or when ,, termaisu is a cake with muscle! lol now i want teramisu,, fuck

gh15 approved
Title: Re: IF A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE.............................
Post by: booty on October 19, 2011, 01:26:15 AM
real italian stype teramisu is the best cake ,, this cake i eat and eat and eat i dont care what where or when ,, termaisu is a cake with muscle! lol now i want teramisu,, fuck

gh15 approved
It's my favourite dessert.  Can't get any better than this.   :P
Title: Re: IF A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE.............................
Post by: hangclean on October 19, 2011, 01:34:07 AM
real italian stype teramisu is the best cake ,, this cake i eat and eat and eat i dont care what where or when ,, termaisu is a cake with muscle! lol now i want teramisu,, fuck

gh15 approved
Tiramisu is the one dessert i can eat tons of and not feel like shit.  must be the espresso.
Title: Re: IF A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE.............................
Post by: Meso_z on October 19, 2011, 01:58:10 AM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_XmWwk_DYndU/SutzVyC2jCI/AAAAAAAABMg/swRfmvC55As/s400/bnj_peanut_butter_cup.jpg)

Ingredients: Cream, Skim Milk, Liquid Sugar (Sugar, Water), Water, Peanuts, Sugar, Coconut Oil, Egg Yolks, Peanut Oil, Partially Defatted Peanut Flour, Milk, Cocoa (Processed With Alkali), Salt, Soy Lecithin, Guar Gum, Natural Flavor, Carrageenan

(http://www.breyers.com/handlers/imagehandler.ashx?id=82&type=large)

Skim Milk, Sugar, Fudge Swirl [Corn Syrup, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Water, Sugar, Cocoa, Tapioca Starch, Natural Flavor, Salt, Lactic Acid, Potassium Sorbate], Corn Syrup, REESE'SŪ Peanut Butter Cups [Milk Chocolate (Sugar, Cocoa Butter, Chocolate, Nonfat Milk, Milk Fat, Corn Syrup Solids, Soy Lecithin, Pgpr [Emulsifier]), Peanut, Sugar, Dextrose, Salt, Tbhq (Preservative)], Cream, Peanut, Maltodextrin, Dextrose, Peanut Oil, Caramel Color, Propylene Glycol Monoesters, Cellulose Gel, Cellulose Gum, Mono And Diglycerides, Salt, Carob Bean Gum, Guar Gum, Carrageenan, Vitamin A Palmitate.
Good luck.  ::)
Title: Re: IF A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE.............................
Post by: dyslexic on October 19, 2011, 02:07:21 AM
Strange... just...


fuck all
Title: Re: IF A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE.............................
Post by: matrixgh on October 19, 2011, 07:53:22 AM
with breyer reases i can eat the all package if not careful something in their icecream is healthy im serious ,, i dont knwo what it is ,, it work real well with hgh and trenbolona ,, i dont know why this icecream work that much better with hgh and trenbolona but it does

gh15 approved

I dont se what healthy there 18gram of sugar and 9gram of fat? try turkey hill french vanilla less sugar and fat and it taste so creamy and made in lancaster farms a lot of natural ingredients there :)
Title: Re: IF A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE.............................
Post by: jprc10 on October 19, 2011, 07:57:48 AM
lol at you guys worrying about which ice cream is healthier....don't most of you take loads of hormones?
Title: Re: IF A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE.............................
Post by: Man of Steel on October 19, 2011, 08:08:20 AM
I have to admit, some competitors I knew in college ate a half gallon of ice cream almost everyday.....their drug addiction allowed it.
Title: Re: IF A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE.............................
Post by: CT_Muscle on October 19, 2011, 08:35:16 AM
i would just go something like this

meal 1= 55 grams protein

meal 2=55 grams protein

meal 3=55 grams protein

meal 4=55 grams protein


and then whenever you feel like eating go ahead and choose whatever sounds the most appetizing to you at the moment and eat untill you feel full.  youll never be hungry and youl always be completely satisfied.

Didnt you just say 1 gram per lb of lean mass?
Title: Re: IF A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE.............................
Post by: Meso_z on October 19, 2011, 09:21:21 AM
i would just go something like this

meal 1= 55 grams protein

meal 2=55 grams protein

meal 3=55 grams protein

meal 4=55 grams protein


and then whenever you feel like eating go ahead and choose whatever sounds the most appetizing to you at the moment and eat untill you feel full.  youll never be hungry and youl always be completely satisfied.
Did this yesterday and today... good plan and you dont have to carry meals whenever you go.

lol its basically reducing number of meals and taking it easy with bbing lifestyle

I have some liquid eggwhites in a 500ml water bottle with me at univescity and whenever its time for the meal I just drink it and eat whatever else I find in the school restauraunt.
Title: Re: IF A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE.............................
Post by: Kulutues on October 19, 2011, 06:07:16 PM
you can really carb load with milky milk duds...they produce a hardening effect on the muscle in conjunction with SEO oils, due to all of the buttery syrupness

(http://www.bwcliffordcandy.com/productimages/candyandcandybars/Milk%20Duds%2024%20count.jpg)

CORN SYRUP; SUGAR; VEGETABLE OIL (COCOA BUTTER, PALM, SHEA, SUNFLOWER AND/OR SAFFLOWER OIL); NONFAT MILK; DEXTROSE; CHOCOLATE; CONTAINS 2% OR LESS OF: BROWN SUGAR; WHEY (MILK); MONO AND DIGLYCERIDES; CORN SYRUP; SUGAR; VEGETABLE OIL (COCOA BUTTER, PALM, SHEA, SUNFLOWER AND/OR SAFFLOWER OIL); NONFAT MILK; DEXTROSE; CHOCOLATE; CONTAINS 2% OR LESS OF: BROWN SUGAR; WHEY (MILK); MONO AND DIGLYCERIDES; CORN SYRUP; SUGAR; VEGETABLE OIL (COCOA BUTTER, PALM, SHEA, SUNFLOWER AND/OR SAFFLOWER OIL); NONFAT MILK; DEXTROSE; CHOCOLATE; CONTAINS 2% OR LESS OF: BROWN SUGAR; WHEY (MILK); MONO AND DIGLYCERIDES; CORN SYRUP; SUGAR; VEGETABLE OIL (COCOA BUTTER, PALM, SHEA, SUNFLOWER AND/OR SAFFLOWER OIL); NONFAT MILK; DEXTROSE; CHOCOLATE; CONTAINS 2% OR LESS OF: BROWN SUGAR; WHEY (MILK); MONO AND DIGLYCERIDES; SODIUM BICARBONATE; MILK FAT; SALT; RESINOUS GLAZE; SOY LECITHIN; TAPIOCA DEXTRIN

Kosher Status: OU-D
Serving Size: 1 box (52.00 g)
Total Calories    230
Calories from Fat    70
Amount Per Serving    %DV *
Total Fat 8 g    12%
   Saturated Fat 5 g    25%
Sodium 135 mg    6%
Total Carbohydrate 38 g    13%
   Sugars 27 g    
Sugar Alcohols    0%
Protein 2 g    
Vitamin C    0%
Calcium    6%
Iron    0%
Title: Re: If a calorie is just a calorie, then ...
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 19, 2011, 08:58:29 PM
This whole thread...wow just fucking......WOW!!
Title: Re: If a calorie is just a calorie, then ...
Post by: SF1900 on October 19, 2011, 09:03:44 PM
Man, I fucking love ice cream.
Title: Re: If a calorie is just a calorie, then ...
Post by: gh15 on October 19, 2011, 09:35:39 PM
This whole thread...wow just fucking......WOW!!

lol ,, one of the only fellas who actualy make me smile behind the screen lol,,i like the dan cook thing too ,, cane cook whatever his name is

gh15 approved
Title: Re: IF A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE.............................
Post by: tbombz on October 19, 2011, 09:53:18 PM
Didnt you just say 1 gram per lb of lean mass?
that works out to 220 grams.. a tad bit more than 1 gram per lb lean mass but meso carries alot of muscle... 220 isnt overdoing it..


Did this yesterday and today... good plan and you dont have to carry meals whenever you go.

lol its basically reducing number of meals and taking it easy with bbing lifestyle

I have some liquid eggwhites in a 500ml water bottle with me at univescity and whenever its time for the meal I just drink it and eat whatever else I find in the school restauraunt.
cool. youll find you never needed to eat so many meals. a few meals per day is perfect
Title: Re: IF A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE.............................
Post by: Nasty Nate on October 19, 2011, 10:11:58 PM
Did this yesterday and today... good plan and you dont have to carry meals whenever you go.

lol its basically reducing number of meals and taking it easy with bbing lifestyle

I have some liquid eggwhites in a 500ml water bottle with me at univescity and whenever its time for the meal I just drink it and eat whatever else I find in the school restauraunt.

It's not taking it easy. It's giving your body what it needs instead of overeating excess protein that is useless.
Title: Re: If a calorie is just a calorie, then ...
Post by: BIG ACH on October 19, 2011, 10:25:27 PM
Man, I fucking love ice cream.

X2 - so does my fat ass!  ;D
Title: Re: If a calorie is just a calorie, then ...
Post by: SF1900 on October 19, 2011, 10:26:50 PM
X2 - so does my fat ass!  ;D

I bet those gums and teeth can down a whole lot at one time  :o :o :D :D ;) ;)
Title: Re: IF A CALORIE IS JUST A CALORIE.............................
Post by: Stavios on October 19, 2011, 10:30:32 PM
Where's the veggies?

gayer than veggies