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Title: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: Marty Champions on October 20, 2011, 08:11:30 PM
i rarely if ever get that abnormal skip in my heart that was due to some sort of blockage either or both aircirculation/bloodflow. When this would happen i would feel like i was going to die because it would be so sudden

just a recap...this all started the very last time  i smoked weed, and then for a couple of years it lasted. but this past 8 months it has really dissapated down to nothing at all

i am convinced the tars have finally started to wash away. yes weed smoking is probably even more worse due to its tar content than cigarettes.

i bring this up because a friend of the family died (another one ) early in life due to some sort of blockage then a heart attack (another smoker for years). I just hope we can get all people off of smoking especially the young people who think they are invincible, but of course those young people wont stop unless something happens like with me.

people dont realize how powerful tar is, its used on roofs to seal it up from water, this is what it does to your body. Water in your body cleanses you but the tar prevents your body from being able to cleanse itself. it takes a while to cleanse the tar since its so sticky in our bodies but it is possible. so maybe pass this along to old and young folk that there is hope
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: Kwon_2 on October 20, 2011, 08:13:40 PM
Yer the best Johnny.

Much respect.
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: Marty Champions on October 20, 2011, 08:17:52 PM
Yer the best Johnny.

Much respect.

humankind will eventually wake up , they will then ask themselves two questions

1 is human kind meant or created to be superiorly advanced. or are they meant to just be hunter gather and very primative

now if you chose the first option you would be right because look all around you that you would have a difficult time doing without

Now ask the OTHER honest question

how can i do things like smoke and eat meat if society was meant or created to be superiorly advanced?
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: ChristopherA on October 20, 2011, 08:18:18 PM
Good stuff Johnny. As a former smoker I can say it's so fucking bad for you and and you have to be a idiot to ever start. As for quiting smoking weed........uh........LO L!!  To each his own. Does seeing any of your old photos in the physique thread make you wanna return to your former glory? May the Falycan soar again!!!
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: Marty Champions on October 20, 2011, 08:25:52 PM
Good stuff Johnny. As a former smoker I can say it's so fucking bad for you and and you have to be a idiot to ever start. As for quiting smoking weed........uh........LO L!!  To each his own. Does seeing any of your old photos in the physique thread make you wanna return to your former glory? May the Falycan soar again!!!

im slowly getting more endurance back in my legs, im not dieting but im simply working out harder and harder consistently

even in your post it sounds like you give a pass to weed because yes (weed is cool as fuck, cigarettes=gay because of no buzz) but the thing is the tar in weed is equal to 5 cigarettes i would try EATING weed in some years when it becomes very cheap and common but no time soon. Weed is a great adrenaline mind trip booster and would be great if you can eat it. Forget about using a vaporizer because there is no such thing because a vaporizer still works by heating/burning the weed
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: Kulutues on October 20, 2011, 08:38:41 PM
theres no medical evidence of what youre talking about...btw the tar used to seal up roads and shit is not the same thing as weed resin...lmao
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: deadz on October 20, 2011, 08:41:19 PM
theres no medical evidence of what youre talking about...btw the tar used to seal up roads and shit is not the same thing as weed resin...lmao
Keep justifying your weed addiction.
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: Marty Champions on October 20, 2011, 08:43:18 PM
theres no medical evidence of what youre talking about...btw the tar used to seal up roads and shit is not the same thing as weed resin...lmao


this is probably the most worst and wrong response ive seen in years you should be very ashamed at yourself
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: Kulutues on October 20, 2011, 08:45:00 PM
Keep justifying your weed addiction.

seems like this is all something johnny made up to be the reason he quit, cuz he knew there was no other reason lolz
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: deadz on October 20, 2011, 08:45:49 PM

this is probably the most worst and wrong response ive seen in years you should be very ashamed at yourself
Addiction causes people to overlook reality.
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: deadz on October 20, 2011, 08:47:35 PM
seems like this is all something johnny made up to be the reason he quit, cuz he knew there was no other reason lolz
You don't think the smoke you inhale leads to tar formation in your lungs? Really..
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: Your Average GymRat on October 20, 2011, 08:48:26 PM
Pussy drug addict. Stop posting on Getbig you waste product.
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: dyslexic on October 20, 2011, 08:49:45 PM
Wow!

Johnny sounds all growed up!


BTW, I am being serious. Good post. I have a few friends (my age) that STILL smoke weed. I don't know how they do it. 30 + years or more!


And at the same time, I've already seen teenagers going through this whole 'heart-palpitation/anxiety" thing...ALREADY! And this is most definitely attributed to smokin' bud.


Funny. Soon it will be legal, as is alcohol.
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: deadz on October 20, 2011, 08:51:45 PM
Wow!

Johnny sounds all growed up!


BTW, I am being serious. Good post. I have a few friends (my age) that STILL smoke weed. I don't know how they do it. 30 + years or more!


And at the same time, I've already seen teenagers going through this whole 'heart-palpitation/anxiety" thing...ALREADY! And this is most definitely attributed to smokin' bud.


Funny. Soon it will be legal, as is alcohol.
^^^ As it should be, govt should not control what substances we choose to use.
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: ChristopherA on October 20, 2011, 08:54:13 PM
im slowly getting more endurance back in my legs, im not dieting but im simply working out harder and harder consistently

even in your post it sounds like you give a pass to weed because yes (weed is cool as fuck, cigarettes=gay because of no buzz) but the thing is the tar in weed is equal to 5 cigarettes i would try EATING weed in some years when it becomes very cheap and common but no time soon. Weed is a great adrenaline mind trip booster and would be great if you can eat it. Forget about using a vaporizer because there is no such thing because a vaporizer still works by heating/burning the weed
I guess with cigs I was religiously smoking a pack a day. Where with weed, at this point in my life, I might smoke once at the end of the day. When I run out I might not even grab another bag for a week, it doesnt bother me and I dont crave it. Def at 21-25 years old I was smoking trees and tobacco like a fiend so it's a 180deg turnaround. Baby steps Johnny, baby steps. Oh and eating the weed haha!! Couple days ago my girl made a couple single serving pot brownies and put way too much weed in. Holy shit I was power baked and this coming from an experienced smoker. It was too much frankly haha almost felt like I was having a panic attack coming on!!
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: Primemuscle on October 20, 2011, 08:56:21 PM
-Never was much of a weed smoker myself. I only tried it three times and didn't like the effect it had on my thinking. However, I did smoke those "gay" cigarettes for about eleven years. One morning after coughing up the shit from the previous days habit, I decided I was done. That was almost forty years ago. I haven't had so much as a puff since that day. Went from smoking about three packs a day to zip. Proof that if one puts their mind to something they can do anything.
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: outby43 on October 20, 2011, 08:59:36 PM


And at the same time, I've already seen teenagers going through this whole 'heart-palpitation/anxiety" thing...ALREADY! And this is most definitely attributed to smokin' bud.




I had a panic attack from weed and what I found was that if I even smelled weed it would send me into a panic attack because i connected that smell with that awful event.  I quit smoking for a long time after that like 10 years.  After some time away I eventually didn't have panic attacks anymore so back to weed I went.  Only in moderation though.  I know how to control any anxiety before I get to the point of being carted off in an ambulance...lol.  Knowing my luck I will mistake a heart attack for a panic attack and tell myself it will pass.
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: ChristopherA on October 20, 2011, 08:59:50 PM
-Never was much of a weed smoker myself. I only tried it three times and didn't like the effect it had on my thinking. However, I did smoke those "gay" cigarettes for about eleven years. One morning after coughing up the shit from the previous days habit, I decided I was done. That was almost forty years ago. I haven't had so much as a puff since that day. Went from smoking about three packs a day to zip. Proof that if one puts their mind to something they can do anything.
3 packs a day!! Then cold turkey?! That's willpower, props to you
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: Kulutues on October 20, 2011, 09:00:45 PM
You don't think the smoke you inhale leads to tar formation in your lungs? Really..

smoke is a state of matter, smoke does not = tar it depends on what the smoke is of.  There are thousands of chemicals in cigarettes, that is why they negatively effect your lungs.

Yes constant inhalation of any smoke will decrease lung strength/capacity...if you keep cardio fit you'll be fine, especially if you like high quality bongs and bud like me
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: MB_722 on October 20, 2011, 09:01:30 PM
you used to annoy me so much back in the day. lol
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: dyslexic on October 20, 2011, 09:01:35 PM
^^^ As it should be, govt should not control what substances we choose to use.

I'm not advocating government control here... that's not what I was getting at.


It's funny how the wind can easily start blowing in another direction.
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: apply85 on October 20, 2011, 09:03:02 PM
this is really common, for me it went away after I strengthened my heart and my blood pressure went down
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: Kulutues on October 20, 2011, 09:03:05 PM
Mmmmmm

Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: Kulutues on October 20, 2011, 09:14:47 PM
Illadelph son

Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: dustin on October 20, 2011, 10:11:49 PM
The tar from weed isn't carcinogenic like cigarettes. There could be a bit more or less tar because it's not grown in a controlled environment though, so it's tough to say. Our body can clear it out for the most part. Can't speak for chronics, but I know my lungs are awesome and I smoke every day. I just smoke small amounts though (a few puffs before the gym, half a joint for migraines).

The stuff I grow is high potency and is flushed properly. I don't use organic nutes like hippy douche bag purists, but no hardcore chemicals either. Burns clean and no nitrate or chemical tastes. 8)
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: Ropo on October 20, 2011, 10:46:39 PM
i rarely if ever get that abnormal skip in my heart that was due to some sort of blockage either or both aircirculation/bloodflow. When this would happen i would feel like i was going to die because it would be so sudden

just a recap...this all started the very last time  i smoked weed, and then for a couple of years it lasted. but this past 8 months it has really dissapated down to nothing at all

i am convinced the tars have finally started to wash away. yes weed smoking is probably even more worse due to its tar content than cigarettes.

i bring this up because a friend of the family died (another one ) early in life due to some sort of blockage then a heart attack (another smoker for years). I just hope we can get all people off of smoking especially the young people who think they are invincible, but of course those young people wont stop unless something happens like with me.

people dont realize how powerful tar is, its used on roofs to seal it up from water, this is what it does to your body. Water in your body cleanses you but the tar prevents your body from being able to cleanse itself. it takes a while to cleanse the tar since its so sticky in our bodies but it is possible. so maybe pass this along to old and young folk that there is hope

When you quit smoking, it takes more than 15 years before your lungs are back in the same level than non smoker, so three years is nothing at all. Tar is not the subject, but the other +5000 chemicals in tobacco and only god knows how many in the weed. It is quite funny that you are doing drugs and in the same time you are concerned about the tar in your lungs, like tar would be the most dangerous thing in your system.  You don't get heart blockage by smoking, it comes from you diet, you yeast eating fool. If you get the symptoms like those you mention, you blood flow is so full of fat that it is ready to kill you, and the weed was only the implement which make you feel it. When you smoke weed, your blood pressure drops and if you have already some circulation problems, you feel them better while your pressure is low. With fat in your veins you need high pressure to get blood flowing, and when drug suddenly drops it, you feel bad. It is always good to quit smoking, but you shouldn't wait any singns of the fast recover, because there will be none. Most important thing is your diet, because you are gaining fat after you quit smoking. Tobacco couch fades away, your breathing is easier but you may have an ashtma or COPD from smoking, and that should be checked because you will need medication for those. If not, you have to wait 15 years to know if you have get the lung cancer from it or not. If not, you have done it, and it is time to celebrate it.
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: Primemuscle on October 20, 2011, 11:01:08 PM
When you quit smoking, it takes more than 15 years before your lungs are back in the same level than non smoker, so three years is nothing at all. Tar is not the subject, but the other +5000 chemicals in tobacco and only god knows how many in the weed. It is quite funny that you are doing drugs and in the same time you are concerned about the tar in your lungs, like tar would be the most dangerous thing in your system.  You don't get heart blockage by smoking, it comes from you diet, you yeast eating fool. If you get the symptoms like those you mention, you blood flow is so full of fat that it is ready to kill you, and the weed was only the implement which make you feel it. When you smoke weed, your blood pressure drops and if you have already some circulation problems, you feel them better while your pressure is low. With fat in your veins you need high pressure to get blood flowing, and when drug suddenly drops it, you feel bad. It is always good to quit smoking, but you shouldn't wait any singns of the fast recover, because there will be none. Most important thing is your diet, because you are gaining fat after you quit smoking. Tobacco couch fades away, your breathing is easier but you may have an ashtma or COPD from smoking, and that should be checked because you will need medication for those. If not, you have to wait 15 years to know if you have get the lung cancer from it or not. If not, you have done it, and it is time to celebrate it.

What an encouraging post! Don't sugar coat anything.

Actually, smoking does cause atherosclerosis, a fatty buildup in the arteries and heart disease. See this link, http://quitsmoking.about.com/od/heartdisease/a/atherosclerosis.htm (http://quitsmoking.about.com/od/heartdisease/a/atherosclerosis.htm).
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: dyslexic on October 20, 2011, 11:50:11 PM
I had a panic attack from weed and what I found was that if I even smelled weed it would send me into a panic attack because i connected that smell with that awful event.  I quit smoking for a long time after that like 10 years.  After some time away I eventually didn't have panic attacks anymore so back to weed I went.  Only in moderation though.  I know how to control any anxiety before I get to the point of being carted off in an ambulance...lol.  Knowing my luck I will mistake a heart attack for a panic attack and tell myself it will pass.

This is a horrible thing about the strength of the mind. It can help you or hurt you.

When people have anxiety or panic attacks there is always an *association* and it is damn hard to get rid of once you have it!

On the other hand, when you are trying to learn something new, the mind has the ability to remember. You can actually LEARN the "learning process"

Crazy irony.
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: dyslexic on October 20, 2011, 11:55:46 PM
When you quit smoking, it takes more than 15 years before your lungs are back in the same level than non smoker, so three years is nothing at all. Tar is not the subject, but the other +5000 chemicals in tobacco and only god knows how many in the weed. It is quite funny that you are doing drugs and in the same time you are concerned about the tar in your lungs, like tar would be the most dangerous thing in your system.  You don't get heart blockage by smoking, it comes from you diet, you yeast eating fool. If you get the symptoms like those you mention, you blood flow is so full of fat that it is ready to kill you, and the weed was only the implement which make you feel it. When you smoke weed, your blood pressure drops and if you have already some circulation problems, you feel them better while your pressure is low. With fat in your veins you need high pressure to get blood flowing, and when drug suddenly drops it, you feel bad. It is always good to quit smoking, but you shouldn't wait any singns of the fast recover, because there will be none. Most important thing is your diet, because you are gaining fat after you quit smoking. Tobacco couch fades away, your breathing is easier but you may have an ashtma or COPD from smoking, and that should be checked because you will need medication for those. If not, you have to wait 15 years to know if you have get the lung cancer from it or not. If not, you have done it, and it is time to celebrate it.


Don't forget the "age" factor. Once you are past a certain age, any tissue regeneration from a lifetime of smoking is damn near non-existent.

I am actually not quite sure about the Yeast and Bloodfat connection you mention. I know that there are side effects for many people (especially females) from eating yeast-laden foods, but I don't know what that has to do with high blood fats (cholesterol) ???
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: Overload on October 21, 2011, 08:30:32 AM

Don't forget the "age" factor. Once you are past a certain age, any tissue regeneration from a lifetime of smoking is damn near non-existent.

I heard if you quit smoking before you are 30, you have a high chance of getting back to normal within 10 years.

I smoked weed every day for a few years in college and it never harmed me in any way. It actually helped me with anxiety and made me sleep like a baby. Considering i graduated Magna Cum Laude, make your own relation as to if it makes you stupid or not.

Actually, most of the latest up to date studies show that weed smoke is not nearly as harmful as tobacco smoke.


8)
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: Marty Champions on October 21, 2011, 08:49:41 AM
The tar from weed isn't carcinogenic like cigarettes. There could be a bit more or less tar because it's not grown in a controlled environment though, so it's tough to say. Our body can clear it out for the most part. Can't speak for chronics, but I know my lungs are awesome and I smoke every day. I just smoke small amounts though (a few puffs before the gym, half a joint for migraines).

The stuff I grow is high potency and is flushed properly. I don't use organic nutes like hippy douche bag purists, but no hardcore chemicals either. Burns clean and no nitrate or chemical tastes. 8)

tar from smoke is tar from smoke it is still very bad for you lol  ::)
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: The True Adonis on October 21, 2011, 08:52:25 AM
Any smoke of any kind inhaled is carcinogenic. 
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: Marty Champions on October 21, 2011, 08:53:58 AM
When you quit smoking, it takes more than 15 years before your lungs are back in the same level than non smoker, so three years is nothing at all. Tar is not the subject, but the other +5000 chemicals in tobacco and only god knows how many in the weed. It is quite funny that you are doing drugs and in the same time you are concerned about the tar in your lungs, like tar would be the most dangerous thing in your system.  You don't get heart blockage by smoking, it comes from you diet, you yeast eating fool. If you get the symptoms like those you mention, you blood flow is so full of fat that it is ready to kill you, and the weed was only the implement which make you feel it. When you smoke weed, your blood pressure drops and if you have already some circulation problems, you feel them better while your pressure is low. With fat in your veins you need high pressure to get blood flowing, and when drug suddenly drops it, you feel bad. It is always good to quit smoking, but you shouldn't wait any singns of the fast recover, because there will be none. Most important thing is your diet, because you are gaining fat after you quit smoking. Tobacco couch fades away, your breathing is easier but you may have an ashtma or COPD from smoking, and that should be checked because you will need medication for those. If not, you have to wait 15 years to know if you have get the lung cancer from it or not. If not, you have done it, and it is time to celebrate it.

by your analogy eating fat will kill you because it would increase bloodfats. you are wrong just like the others who havent a grain of intelligence to mine to compare wits .


and again you state people dont get heart blockage from smoking but from diet again im laughing at you but others are retarted enough to follow you
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: Marty Champions on October 21, 2011, 08:55:03 AM
Any smoke of any kind inhaled is carcinogenic. 

according to these nerds it is not adonis. lol what is wrong with these people
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: Overload on October 21, 2011, 08:59:16 AM
Any smoke of any kind inhaled is carcinogenic. 

So are many other things people inhale/ingest daily.


8)
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 21, 2011, 09:01:05 AM
Glad to know Johnny!   8)
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: Overload on October 21, 2011, 09:04:23 AM
according to these nerds it is not adonis. lol what is wrong with these people

I'm not saying it is good for you because it's not.

But compared to other household items that we use daily, weed smoke isn't a big deal in moderation.

Now if you smoke blunts all day every day, you have more than a few problems in your life.

I'm glad you are drug free and moving on in life, but a lot of what you are saying is complete bullshit.

Comparing tar for housing projects to tar from inhaled smoke is retarded and just plain wrong.

But preach on falcon, you are on the right path.


8)
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: Borracho on October 21, 2011, 09:14:26 AM
Any smoke of any kind inhaled is carcinogenic. 

Exactly.

Smoking anything is bad for you. Burning materials produces carcinogens and toxic by-products. Vaporizing on the other hand is a lot less harmful because it releases the wanted chemicals without the need to burn your bud at high temperatures. Not saying go nuts and smoke till you die but if you're gonna do it anyway I suggest investing in a good quality vaporizer if you ain't eating it.


Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: dyslexic on October 21, 2011, 09:19:51 AM
Again, as far as cholesterol and bloodfats, isn't this where the gall bladder plays a very important role?

I mean, to emulsify fats (bile) by joining them with water as opposed to the original separation (can't mix oil and water) would render them less thick in the bloodstream.

From there you would consider artherosclerosis (hardening of the arterial walls) -  which, much like total blood serum levels of cholesterol (not solely "dietary") is highly genetic.

If the walls of your arteries are thinning, and developing a thickness to them that is creating blockage, plus the effects of the constant constriction/contraction that smoking provides (especially with alcohol, which is when a lot of people love to smoke) - you compound this even more by the type of LDLs or HDLs that are prevalent in your system and how they are effectively broken down.


Seems to me there are many generalized "blanket" statements being made here. One mans poison is another's  longevity. Not all react exactly the same way to identical stimulus, Mr. Mentzer.
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: Borracho on October 21, 2011, 09:20:40 AM
JF, if you have had issues with your heart I'd stay away from weed. I doubt the issues you had with your heart were solely on the fact you were smoking it.
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: Big Worm on October 21, 2011, 09:32:03 AM
im slowly getting more endurance back in my legs, im not dieting but im simply working out harder and harder consistently

even in your post it sounds like you give a pass to weed because yes (weed is cool as fuck, cigarettes=gay because of no buzz) but the thing is the tar in weed is equal to 5 cigarettes i would try EATING weed in some years when it becomes very cheap and common but no time soon. Weed is a great adrenaline mind trip booster and would be great if you can eat it. Forget about using a vaporizer because there is no such thing because a vaporizer still works by heating/burning the weed
Good for you.. Hope you get to that 100%,when you 1st started posting.. God bless,or alien bless..?  Whatever floats your boat.
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: The True Adonis on October 21, 2011, 10:12:58 AM
I never understood why people don`t eat their weed and avoid the carcinogenic effect.  Also the effect lasts longer and is more powerful I have read.
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: Borracho on October 21, 2011, 10:35:34 AM
I never understood why people don`t eat their weed and avoid the carcinogenic effect.  Also the effect lasts longer and is more powerful I have read.

The thing is that you have to ingest a lot more in terms of quantity as opposed to smoking. So smoking is more cost effective.
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: Kulutues on October 21, 2011, 01:18:17 PM
almost 4:20, i'm about to smoke a nice bowl of my golden kush

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2IcIq_OTlfc/Sq-1H8s1Q6I/AAAAAAAAAto/dnuGubui338/s400/Bubba_Kush_20.JPG)

LOLOLOLOL

IF YOU DO 25 MINS OF RESISTANCE STAIR MACHINE EOD LIKE ME, SMOKING WEED HAS NO NEGATIVE EFFECT ON YOU, WHY WOULD IT, HUMANS WERE MEANT TO SMOKE CANNABIS ANYWAY
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: Borracho on October 21, 2011, 01:47:23 PM
almost 4:20, i'm about to smoke a nice bowl of my golden kush

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2IcIq_OTlfc/Sq-1H8s1Q6I/AAAAAAAAAto/dnuGubui338/s400/Bubba_Kush_20.JPG)

LOLOLOLOL

IF YOU DO 25 MINS OF RESISTANCE STAIR MACHINE EOD LIKE ME, SMOKING WEED HAS NO NEGATIVE EFFECT ON YOU, WHY WOULD IT, HUMANS WERE MEANT TO SMOKE CANNABIS ANYWAY

EveryBODY is unique and reacts to substances in different manners. We were meant to eat, sleep, reproduce and survive....not to smoke, snort, and inject poison into our bodies.  All that shit is fun but its not what we were "meant" to do.
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: Board_SHERIF on October 21, 2011, 01:51:40 PM
I never understood why people don`t eat their weed and avoid the carcinogenic effect.  Also the effect lasts longer and is more powerful I have read.

It is very good in a guinness stew  :D
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: GroinkTropin on October 21, 2011, 02:01:33 PM
theres no medical evidence of what youre talking about...btw the tar used to seal up roads and shit is not the same thing as weed resin...lmao

Which means what exactly? What the fuck are you even talking about? Serious question...
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: Ropo on October 21, 2011, 10:48:51 PM
by your analogy eating fat will kill you because it would increase bloodfats. you are wrong just like the others who havent a grain of intelligence to mine to compare wits .


and again you state people dont get heart blockage from smoking but from diet again im laughing at you but others are retarted enough to follow you

Well, that point of view comes only from the fact, that you think you are something else than simple redneck brat, but that is only an illusion made by your stupidity. In fact, you are one of the most stupid individual what I have ever met even in the internet, and that is something. You should understand that nobody will see what you think you are, but everybody can see what you really are. I know you, I know who you are and what you do, how you eat etc. only looking your face.
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: dyslexic on October 21, 2011, 11:53:09 PM
Well, that point of view comes only from the fact, that you think you are something else than simple redneck brat, but that is only an illusion made by your stupidity. In fact, you are one of the most stupid individual what I have ever met even in the internet, and that is something. You should understand that nobody will see what you think you are, but everybody can see what you really are. I know you, I know who you are and what you do, how you eat etc. only looking your face.


You guys "met" on the internet? Ruh Roh!


And he is the stupidest??


Man, you ain't been around this place very long then.
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: devilsmile on October 22, 2011, 03:11:33 AM
i rarely if ever get that abnormal skip in my heart that was due to some sort of blockage either or both aircirculation/bloodflow. When this would happen i would feel like i was going to die because it would be so sudden

just a recap...this all started the very last time  i smoked weed, and then for a couple of years it lasted. but this past 8 months it has really dissapated down to nothing at all

i am convinced the tars have finally started to wash away. yes weed smoking is probably even more worse due to its tar content than cigarettes.

i bring this up because a friend of the family died (another one ) early in life due to some sort of blockage then a heart attack (another smoker for years). I just hope we can get all people off of smoking especially the young people who think they are invincible, but of course those young people wont stop unless something happens like with me.

people dont realize how powerful tar is, its used on roofs to seal it up from water, this is what it does to your body. Water in your body cleanses you but the tar prevents your body from being able to cleanse itself. it takes a while to cleanse the tar since its so sticky in our bodies but it is possible. so maybe pass this along to old and young folk that there is hope

Just when I thought smoking weed was fine... not even smoking weed is fine, god damn it, can't a man have ONE thing that blows your mind that is not unhealthy... I'm going to smoke weed with vaporizor, how's that for not getting tar! Besides I thought weed was a natural plant that was o'naturel with no tar!

joe rogan said he smokes it everyday even when doing jiujitsu



I'm psychologicly addicted to it, I started to smoke weed this summer for the first time and I'm not planning to stop if I find your rant is bullshit.
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: NotMrAverage on October 22, 2011, 03:25:22 AM
NYD ;-)
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: wes on October 22, 2011, 03:28:27 AM
JF is back at the top of his game!!

Glad you`re doing better dude.  :)
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: WillGrant on October 22, 2011, 04:06:03 AM
God bless Father John
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: devilsmile on October 22, 2011, 04:20:17 AM
Ok I read about marihuana and it seems it's just as bad as any other drug substance and the plant also contains more than 400 other chemicals like tar, carbon monoxide and cyanide.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/12462-marijuana/

Marihuana long term effects:

- Reduces sperm count
- Can cause Asthma
- Can cause lung cancer (YES it can apparently)
- Psychological dependance

And we all know the short term effects, so lets not get to those, they are fun anyway.

So in other words marihuana does affect your oxygen intake and makes you out of shape. Makes me want to quit smoking but my life lacks the positive content I need to feel happy because when I'm sober I constantly over think everything and I have a high blood presure. But when I smoke and go to school, work or just go out, then MAN! When I talk to people I have a real connection to them and everything seems so cool and enjoyable as life should be at normal state. Everything seems a little mystic and beautiful in a unique way, but when I'm sober everything is corny and annoying.

But if weed makes you out of shape then fuck that. Allthought I do only smoke from a water bong which gathers some tar to itself it's still unhealthy.

BUT!

What about all the campaigns that are for marihuana? What about all those researches. I only wish I could have something to enjoy so I don't have to sense the shit, you know.. no, I take it back, that I can sense the shit but not be affected by it. Every substance that is meant to make you feel good mentally trashes your body, it's not fair!

I have to get to know to this vaporizor a little more...
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: outby43 on October 22, 2011, 04:43:38 AM
Ok I read about marihuana and it seems it's just as bad as any other drug substance and the plant also contains more than 400 other chemicals like tar, carbon monoxide and cyanide.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/12462-marijuana/

Marihuana long term effects:

- Reduces sperm count
- Can cause Asthma
- Can cause lung cancer (YES it can apparently)
- Psychological dependance

And we all know the short term effects, so lets not get to those, they are fun anyway.

So in other words marihuana does affect your oxygen intake and makes you out of shape. Makes me want to quit smoking but my life lacks the positive content I need to feel happy because when I'm sober I constantly over think everything and I have a high blood presure. But when I smoke and go to school, work or just go out, then MAN! When I talk to people I have a real connection to them and everything seems so cool and enjoyable as life should be at normal state. Everything seems a little mystic and beautiful in a unique way, but when I'm sober everything is corny and annoying.

But if weed makes you out of shape then fuck that. Allthought I do only smoke from a water bong which gathers some tar to itself it's still unhealthy.

BUT!

What about all the campaigns that are for marihuana? What about all those researches. I only wish I could have something to enjoy so I don't have to sense the shit, you know.. no, I take it back, that I can sense the shit but not be affected by it. Every substance that is meant to make you feel good mentally trashes your body, it's not fair!

I have to get to know to this vaporizor a little more...

How much weed do they specify here for long term effects?  I think that is where the argument fails.  Are they taking an equivalent to a pound of weed and giving it to mice in a lab once a day for 5 years?  I say moderation is key.  A couple of bowls a week.  Sure it will be bad for you but as long as you live healthy, exercise, stimulate your brain with education, and smoke in moderation then there should be no negative side effects that will kill you any faster than coming into contact with everyday environmental contamination.
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: devilsmile on October 22, 2011, 04:52:53 AM
How much weed do they specify here for long term effects?  I think that is where the argument fails.  Are they taking an equivalent to a pound of weed and giving it to mice in a lab once a day for 5 years?  I say moderation is key.  A couple of bowls a week.  Sure it will be bad for you but as long as you live healthy, exercise, stimulate your brain with education, and smoke in moderation then there should be no negative side effects that will kill you any faster than coming into contact with everyday environmental contamination.

Good point. My weed consumption has been an avarage 1,5 grams a month and I never really smoked before this summer... well june if we're precise, but then it was like 0,5 grams a month.. with friends..

Hard to be sober after being so much high... I guess I need more pussy to relax... or just go sit under a tree for 20 years..
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: Marty Champions on October 22, 2011, 05:44:44 AM
Good point. My weed consumption has been an avarage 1,5 grams a month and I never really smoked before this summer... well june if we're precise, but then it was like 0,5 grams a month.. with friends..

Hard to be sober after being so much high... I guess I need more pussy to relax... or just go sit under a tree for 20 years..
most people need just pussy to relax.

most people that get high dont have the confidence to get pussy especially the non workout type will just bring you down with them and get stoned without actually living up life
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: Marty Champions on October 22, 2011, 05:46:54 AM
Ok I read about marihuana and it seems it's just as bad as any other drug substance and the plant also contains more than 400 other chemicals like tar, carbon monoxide and cyanide.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/12462-marijuana/

Marihuana long term effects:

- Reduces sperm count
- Can cause Asthma
- Can cause lung cancer (YES it can apparently)
- Psychological dependance

And we all know the short term effects, so lets not get to those, they are fun anyway.

So in other words marihuana does affect your oxygen intake and makes you out of shape. Makes me want to quit smoking but my life lacks the positive content I need to feel happy because when I'm sober I constantly over think everything and I have a high blood presure. But when I smoke and go to school, work or just go out, then MAN! When I talk to people I have a real connection to them and everything seems so cool and enjoyable as life should be at normal state. Everything seems a little mystic and beautiful in a unique way, but when I'm sober everything is corny and annoying.

But if weed makes you out of shape then fuck that. Allthought I do only smoke from a water bong which gathers some tar to itself it's still unhealthy.

BUT!

What about all the campaigns that are for marihuana? What about all those researches. I only wish I could have something to enjoy so I don't have to sense the shit, you know.. no, I take it back, that I can sense the shit but not be affected by it. Every substance that is meant to make you feel good mentally trashes your body, it's not fair!

I have to get to know to this vaporizor a little more...

vaporizers are another lie, it works by indirect heat and burning but nontheless its still burning up the fuckin weed to break it down by heat


just eat it but pay more for it or grow your own
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: Kulutues on October 22, 2011, 06:09:39 AM
Ok I read about marihuana and it seems it's just as bad as any other drug substance and the plant also contains more than 400 other chemicals like tar, carbon monoxide and cyanide.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/12462-marijuana/

Marihuana long term effects:

- Reduces sperm count
- Can cause Asthma
- Can cause lung cancer (YES it can apparently)
- Psychological dependance

And we all know the short term effects, so lets not get to those, they are fun anyway.

So in other words marihuana does affect your oxygen intake and makes you out of shape. Makes me want to quit smoking but my life lacks the positive content I need to feel happy because when I'm sober I constantly over think everything and I have a high blood presure. But when I smoke and go to school, work or just go out, then MAN! When I talk to people I have a real connection to them and everything seems so cool and enjoyable as life should be at normal state. Everything seems a little mystic and beautiful in a unique way, but when I'm sober everything is corny and annoying.

But if weed makes you out of shape then fuck that. Allthought I do only smoke from a water bong which gathers some tar to itself it's still unhealthy.

BUT!

What about all the campaigns that are for marihuana? What about all those researches. I only wish I could have something to enjoy so I don't have to sense the shit, you know.. no, I take it back, that I can sense the shit but not be affected by it. Every substance that is meant to make you feel good mentally trashes your body, it's not fair!

I have to get to know to this vaporizor a little more...

livestrong.com, fucking retard
Title: Re: I think i have recoverd (lungs heart circulation) after 3 years + of sobriety
Post by: devilsmile on October 22, 2011, 07:36:08 AM
vaporizers are another lie, it works by indirect heat and burning but nontheless its still burning up the fuckin weed to break it down by heat


just eat it but pay more for it or grow your own

I have used home grown white widow and indica this whole time... so I'm safe?