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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: Hugo Chavez on October 26, 2011, 11:29:50 PM
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I love ya, but gotta bust your balls on this you anti 2nd biatch..... :D
Record-Low 26% in U.S. Favor Handgun Ban
Support for stricter gun laws in general is lowest Gallup has measured
http://www.gallup.com/poll/150341/Record-Low-Favor-Handgun-Ban.aspx?ref=image
This one is a 240 special ;D
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it's nice to see that under Obama, the pro-gun element of the USA has actually GROWN.
I remember when Bush allowed the CLinton-era assault weapons ban to continue for FOUR YEARS. He could have repealed that on day 1, as the repubs were owning congress, etc.
Finally, we have a president who fosters an environment of "we don't care what you do with your guns - it's your god given right".
We suffered under AWB for almost HALF of the Bush years. We've suffered from an AWB under 0% of Obama's presidency.
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More proof that the Obama Admin is after your guns.
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More proof that the Obama Admin is after your guns.
we'll never know why Bush chose to allow the AWB to 'sunset' - while 300 million americans were denied their god-given gun rights for almost 4 years on his watch.
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Holder and obama wanted to do AWB and their own party said no while they were trying healthcare.
Obama is on record supporting a federal ban on concealed carry.
So GMAFB.
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Holder and obama wanted to do AWB and their own party said no while they were trying healthcare.
Obama is on record supporting a federal ban on concealed carry.
So GMAFB.
He's "on record". What, he signed some silly ass pledge while working in CHicago?
Dude, face it. Bush let YOUR ASS go without long guns and high caps for over 3 years. Obama's didn't.
NRA admits obama is awesome on guns. Their only beef is "but but his INTENTIONS...."
Dude, my intentions are to have an orgy with the victoria secret angels. Will it happen? No. Intent doesn't matter sheeeeit.
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He's "on record". What, he signed some silly ass pledge while working in CHicago?
Dude, face it. Bush let YOUR ASS go without long guns and high caps for over 3 years. Obama's didn't.
NRA admits obama is awesome on guns. Their only beef is "but but his INTENTIONS...."
Dude, my intentions are to have an orgy with the victoria secret angels. Will it happen? No. Intent doesn't matter sheeeeit.
Bro - you are getting far worse with your kneepadding and tamponing. Shame on you for your foolishness.
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Bro - you are getting far worse with your kneepadding and tamponing. Shame on you for your foolishness.
attack the messenger, not the message ;) ;)
Why did bush let us americans go without gun rights for 3 years?
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attack the messenger, not the message ;) ;)
Why did bush let us americans go without gun rights for 3 years?
He let the ban expire like he said he would and had a little issue involving 3000 deaths to deal with in the meantime in case you forgot.
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He let the ban expire like he said he would and had a little issue involving 3000 deaths to deal with in the meantime in case you forgot.
I doubt president romney would just 'let obama's terrible policies EXPIRE'.
No, he will immediately reverse the legislation. and sorry, but he was in office 8 months BEFORE 911. If there's time to play golf and whine about stem cells, there's time to make the moves to end one bill.
the fact you're making EXCUSES for bush - saying he was TOO BUSY to sign a damn piece of paper giving americans their gun right back?
pathetic. at least say "bush dropped ball on that one, should have repealed". Dont insult our intelligence with "but but but he was too busy!' lame, dog.
bottom line - bush left the gun ban in place, and youre defending him for it ;)
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I doubt president romney would just 'let obama's terrible policies EXPIRE'.
No, he will immediately reverse the legislation. and sorry, but he was in office 8 months BEFORE 911. If there's time to play golf and whine about stem cells, there's time to make the moves to end one bill.
the fact you're making EXCUSES for bush - saying he was TOO BUSY to sign a damn piece of paper giving americans their gun right back?
pathetic. at least say "bush dropped ball on that one, should have repealed". Dont insult our intelligence with "but but but he was too busy!' lame, dog.
bottom line - bush left the gun ban in place, and youre defending him for it ;)
Didny know a president could end AWB by executive order.
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Didny know a president could end AWB by executive order.
Bush would have been able to easily sign a bill to repeal - much like obama just did on DADT. You can repeal bills. You're telling me a repub congress, in spring of 2001, would have told bush no/ Sheeit, you trippin - guns were a HUGE part of the 2000 election. Repubs would have eaily ended that AWB.
Truth is, bush probably didn't want an influx of rifles to the populace in case they caught on to the blatent obviousness of 911...
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Didny know a president could end AWB by executive order.
Obviously you don't know shit about anything then.
A few signatures and a bill of repeal... that's it. The GOP restricted your 2nd Amend more than Obama has. Yet you only cry about the delusions that your fractured brain tells you will happen.
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Bush would have been able to easily sign a bill to repeal - much like obama just did on DADT. You can repeal bills. You're telling me a repub congress, in spring of 2001, would have told bush no/ Sheeit, you trippin - guns were a HUGE part of the 2000 election. Repubs would have eaily ended that AWB.
Truth is, bush probably didn't want an influx of rifles to the populace in case they caught on to the blatent obviousness of 911...
Nonsense. He never had the 2/3 of congress needed for repeal. Go back to making up shit about Libya. At least that's current.
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Nonsense. He never had the 2/3 of congress needed for repeal. Go back to making up shit about Libya. At least that's current.
Remember when Jeffords switched?
Bush never had the majorities that Obama did. 240 likes to create false realities and straw men arguments to trash the GOP while copiusly avoiding the same bs that his messiah does.
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Nonsense. He never had the 2/3 of congress needed for repeal. Go back to making up shit about Libya. At least that's current.
Oh, he could have made the effort. Would have been interesting to see if dems would step up - in a time like that where guns was such a big issue - and decline it. I think every moderate dem would have just let that shit get repealed.
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Bush never had the majorities that Obama did. 240 likes to create false realities and straw men arguments to trash the GOP while copiusly avoiding the same bs that his messiah does.
He could have least put that shit up for vote, instead of just saying "woe is me, the dems will never go for it, let's just leave that gun ban in place...."0
when it was shit he believed in - like privatizing spcial security - he put up bills he knew coudl fail, remember? ;)
33, usually you will sack up and admit it when bush fcked the duck on issues. on this, he did. Why defend him here?
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He could have least put that shit up for vote, instead of just saying "woe is me, the dems will never go for it, let's just leave that gun ban in place...."0
when it was shit he believed in - like privatizing spcial security - he put up bills he knew coudl fail, remember? ;)
33, usually you will sack up and admit it when bush fcked the duck on issues. on this, he did. Why defend him here?
Because they knew it was going to expire. And they had other matters to deal w dumbass.
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Because they knew it was going to expire. And they had other matters to deal w dumbass.
1) It was going to expire about 1300 days after Bush took office.
2) other matters? Remember spring 2001 Bush agenda? Stem cell debate, whine about aids and euthanasia, sign the bush tax cuts, then go golfing for a month ignoring crucial data about 911. Damn this amazing memory of mine!
Sorry, but you're being a dickhead on this one - and I very rarely go there. Your excuse of stem cell debate and other crap being more important than the gun rights of americans? NO NO NO. That's a load of horse shit.
Admit it, cowboy. just admit he should have tried. Please don't become an illogical liberal. you get emotional, 33, but you always keep it real with logic and you have always admitted bush flaws - every time. I'll buy the first beer when I visit nyc one day - but you gotta admit bush SHOULD have issued a bill for repeal on day 1...
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1) It was going to expire about 1300 days after Bush took office.
2) other matters? Remember spring 2001 Bush agenda? Stem cell debate, whine about aids and euthanasia, sign the bush tax cuts, then go golfing for a month ignoring crucial data about 911. Damn this amazing memory of mine!
Sorry, but you're being a dickhead on this one - and I very rarely go there. Your excuse of stem cell debate and other crap being more important than the gun rights of americans? NO NO NO. That's a load of horse shit.
Admit it, cowboy. just admit he should have tried. Please don't become an illogical liberal. you get emotional, 33, but you always keep it real with logic and you have always admitted bush flaws - every time. I'll buy the first beer when I visit nyc one day - but you gotta admit bush SHOULD have issued a bill for repeal on day 1...
From what I remember - Bush actually wanted to extend the AWB.
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From what I remember - Bush actually wanted to extend the AWB.
First beer is on me!
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First beer is on me!
I'm not kidding. I think he said he wanted the AWB but did not fight the repeal because he did not want a huge fight over it.
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props for defeating your own argument. good honesty! I guess THIS is why he didn't repeal it. He wasn't too busy... he just liked the AWB too much!
President Bush and the National Rifle Association, long regarded as staunch allies, find themselves unlikely adversaries over one of the most significant pieces of gun-control legislation in the last decade, a ban on semiautomatic assault weapons.
At issue is a measure to be introduced by Senate Democrats on Thursday to continue the ban. Groundbreaking 1994 legislation outlawing the sale and possession of such firearms will expire next year unless Congress extends it, and many gun-rights groups have made it their top priority to fight it. Even some advocates of gun control say the prohibition has been largely ineffective because of its loopholes.
Despite those concerns, the White House says Mr. Bush supports the extension of the current law -- a position that has put him in opposition to the N.R.A. and left many gun owners angry and dumbfounded.
''This is a president who has been so good on the Second Amendment that it's just unbelievable to gun owners that he would really sign the ban,'' said Grover G. Norquist, a leading conservative and an N.R.A. board member who opposes the weapons ban. ''I don't think it's sunk in for a lot of people yet.''
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Yeah...Obama is for easier gun laws.....Obama would take everybodies guns...and then much like his buddy Ayers...execute 25 million of us. Obama is a leftist shithead.
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Oh, he could have made the effort. Would have been interesting to see if dems would step up - in a time like that where guns was such a big issue - and decline it. I think every moderate dem would have just let that shit get repealed.
But he didn't make the effort, thus your argument is moot.
Trying to pass opinion off as fact seems to be your forte.
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'would'?
but he didn't. he had a dem congress, and he left the issue alone.
i dont care what he wants, intends, dreams of, or wacks off to. I care what legislation we face.