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Title: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: 240 is Back on October 28, 2011, 06:29:39 AM
Two disturbing videos have emerged that show shocking and abusive treatment of kids at a Pasadena teen boot camp. The videos come courtesy of the Pasadena Star-News and further the case against Kelvin "Sgt. Mac" McFarland, who was arrested on May 27, 2011 under charges of "kidnapping, child abuse, false imprisonment, extortion and unlawful use of a badge," reports the Pasadena Star-News.

In the video above, McFarland and other instructors scream and yell at what looks like a pre-teen boy as he is forced to hold a heavy car tire. The boy is brought to his knees as he cries and is terrorized by the adults around him.

McFarland's May arrest sparked much controversy. CBS has more on what lead to the arrest:

Officials say he spotted a 14-year-old girl downtown cutting school. Pasadena police say he approached the girl, insinuated he was a police officer and handcuffed the girl. In addition, police say McFarland then demanded money from the parents to provide his boot camp/after school services.

And yet, many clients of McFarland's came to his defense. Friends and supporters rallied to his defense, reports Altadena Patch, speaking out about "how important the program was to their children."

The video below chronicles teen participants at McFarland's boot camp being forced to drink water until they vomit. McFarland has not seen the videos but admits he is aware of their existence. He tries to deflect some blame by calling out a former colleague: "If you look at that video, you will see Keith 'Sarge' Gibbs in the video," Pasadena Star-News reports.

Keith Gibbs and McFarland both served in the military and used to work together at Gibbs' boot camp. Yet in 2009, McFarland left to start a competing boot camp in Pasadena called the Family First Growth Camp. Gibbs tells the Pasadena Star-News that the split occurred when McFarland "failed to pass a background check and allegations emerged of inappropriate training methods."

As for why the boot camp activities were filmed, investigators have yet to find out.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/27/kelvin-sgt-mac-mcfarland-boot-camp-video_n_1051216.html?icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-sb-bb%7Cdl3%7Csec1_lnk1%7C108107
Title: Re: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: dr.chimps on October 28, 2011, 06:45:25 AM
'Forced to hold a heavy car tire!?' I'm assuming that Coach will be called to the stand as an expert witness.
Title: Re: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: delta9mda on October 28, 2011, 07:10:11 AM
every body wanna be a navy seal but no body wanna carry no heavy as tire.  :P
Title: Re: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: _bruce_ on October 28, 2011, 07:37:41 AM
He must be a woman in secrecy.
Title: Re: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: Arthur Nus on October 28, 2011, 07:47:00 AM

kind of explains McFarland's absence
Title: Re: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: Radical Plato on October 28, 2011, 08:06:17 AM
God, the whole world has become sissified, these kids dont even know what a hard time is.  Spoilt Punk Brats.
Title: Re: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: Parker on October 28, 2011, 09:34:43 AM
God, the whole world has become sissified, these kids dont even know what a hard time is.  Spoilt Punk Brats.
Kids wouldn't need the "Boot Camp" if parents did their jobs and provided guidance and discipline.
Title: Re: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: wes on October 28, 2011, 09:37:06 AM
Back in the day they had this thing called a reform school.................y ou got your ass kicked for breakfast,lunch,and dinner.

Bunch of soft ass fucks these days.
Title: Re: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: mass243 on October 28, 2011, 09:41:12 AM

Boot camp of democracy  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: dr.chimps on October 28, 2011, 10:06:02 AM
Back in the day they had this thing called a reform school.................y ou got your ass kicked for breakfast,lunch,and dinner.

Bunch of soft ass fucks these days.
Reform school!? What is this, a Mickey Rooney script?     ;D
Title: Re: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: viking1 on October 28, 2011, 10:13:33 AM
Title: Re: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: Iceman1981 on October 28, 2011, 10:46:09 AM
Kids wouldn't need the "Boot Camp" if parents did their jobs and provided guidance and discipline.

X2...
Title: Re: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: wes on October 28, 2011, 10:49:11 AM
Reform school!? What is this, a Mickey Rooney script?     ;D
You funny bastard!!

"Men Of Boys Town" is still a great flick !
Title: Re: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: maxkane69 on October 28, 2011, 10:54:10 AM


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/27/kelvin-sgt-mac-mcfarland-boot-camp-video_n_1051216.html?icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-sb-bb%7Cdl3%7Csec1_lnk1%7C108107


LOL! :D
I just watched the video : what a bunch of mongoloids!

Title: Re: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: stuntmovie on October 28, 2011, 11:22:58 AM
DAMN!!! I had forgotten all about Reform School.

Did it ever really exist? I was threatened with Reform School numerous times when I was a kid, but I never had the opportunity to get enrolled or ever speak to a certified graduate.

Did it really exist or was it something like the 'Boogeyman' who lived underneath that staircase that lead down to the basement?

Gonna do some research. ....

Just found this (see below) and gonna spend some time reading it this evening .... Interesting subject. Thanks!

I think that any type of "law enforcement or reform" was much tougher back then .... and "crazy" people were locked up in mental institutions but now we're free to post on internet Boards.

The San Francisco Industrial School and the Origins of Juvenile Justice in California: A Glance at the Great Reformation
Title: Re: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: dr.chimps on October 28, 2011, 11:49:06 AM
You funny bastard!!

"Men Of Boys Town" is still a great flick !
I hope you mean 'Boy's Town' (1938) with Spencer Tracy and Mickey Rooney.     :-X              ;D
Title: Re: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 28, 2011, 12:02:30 PM
A little over the top with the screaming in their faces, one person would have been enough. What are these people going if a kid decides to play football with the coaches screaming in their faces? Are they going to scream abuse as well? the pussification of america. They did nothing wrong.
Title: Re: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: wes on October 28, 2011, 01:39:57 PM
I hope you mean 'Boy's Town' (1938) with Spencer Tracy and Mickey Rooney.     :-X              ;D
The Sequel my friend:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0033902/
Title: Re: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: dr.chimps on October 28, 2011, 01:46:43 PM
The Sequel my friend:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0033902/
Well, raise my rent. I've never even heard of this flick. Some movie fan, I am. My bad.     
Title: Re: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: TRIX on October 28, 2011, 02:23:41 PM
pussy marines
Title: Re: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: Rami on October 28, 2011, 02:33:13 PM
American marines wouldn't last a week here on conditions we camp.

That's for sure. -35 Celsius (maybe 237.15 in Americano) was lowest on our camps. And we lived in fukin' tents for weeks.
Americano weapons, yet soldiers, wouldn't work here.

Here:
(http://operatorchan.org/s/arch/src/12188865091.jpg)

It's called "guerilla-tent". We had about 20 guys sleepin' in that. Fukin' freezin, sleepin' one on another. One time I was whole night (6 hours) in guard... awful. But no other way!
Sun is visible for maybe 4 hours a day. At other times it's dark as in hell.



Perhaps, but Americans would open McDonald's right there for their soldiers tho


Title: Re: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: berblexer on October 28, 2011, 02:35:15 PM
It's called "guerilla-tent". We had about 20 guys sleepin' in that. Fukin' freezin, sleepin' one on another. One time I was whole night (6 hours) in guard a bottom... awful. But no other way!

fixed
Title: Re: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: Nails on October 28, 2011, 02:39:12 PM
Title: Re: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 28, 2011, 02:39:25 PM
American marines wouldn't last a week here on conditions we camp.

That's for sure. -35 Celsius (maybe 237.15 in Americano) was lowest on our camps. And we lived in fukin' tents for weeks.
Americano weapons, yet soldiers, wouldn't work here.

Here:
(http://operatorchan.org/s/arch/src/12188865091.jpg)

It's called "guerilla-tent". We had about 20 guys sleepin' in that. Fukin' freezin, sleepin' one on another. One time I was whole night (6 hours) in guard... awful. But no other way!
Sun is visible for maybe 4 hours a day. At other times it's dark as in hell.



Sometimes you can be a decent guy, but sometimes you're so off base it's crazy.

Fucking goofy, backwards Russian soldiers would easily be out gunned, out smarted, and destroyed by American fucking sportsmen alone.  Fucking Ted Nugent could take out a whole Russian Platoon on his own.  Disorganized, poorly trained, ignorant fucking savages.  Only thing the mother fuckers are good for is getting drunk, and dancing with their accordions like fucking monkeys.  

(http://www.russian-victories.ru/untermensch.jpg)
Title: Re: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: Parker on October 28, 2011, 04:20:42 PM
LOL, funny  ;D

I don't want to mock Americanos but it's whole different world here. That's why we, very small country are the only nation to face USSR aggression and survive independent in the world history!

Americanos are tough too. Especially the special forces. But do they train to these conditions? Hell no. Even during Cold war they weren't prepared to this - and Ruski has same or even worse conditions than these.

(http://home.swipnet.se/shitkingz/gfx/heli.jpg)
You think we don't have very, vey cold places here?
We also have one of the hottest places in the world (with moving rocks no less)---Death Valley.
Title: Re: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: Parker on October 28, 2011, 04:36:54 PM
I know you have. Especially in Alaska, that Russians sold to you.

But would you have any ability to survive here? I doubt if USA troops train in these conditions...?


LOL, I'm proud of the fact I've served in my country's military. It's no competition to you or Ruskis though. But I bet if we went on assault rifle to assault rifle without any Superpower weapons, we would defeat you both  ;D
And chances are your or Russian soldiers are not trained in urban warfare---BOPE trained US soldiers for Iraqi urban warfare, as it was a new frontier...

And chances are, American soldiers would survive there as well.

I'm not a military man, but after Vietnam, I believe training in various environments was implemented...and then you have Special Forces who probably train in said environments.
Title: Re: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 28, 2011, 04:36:54 PM
I guess those kids have never heard of Bobby Knight...lol!
Title: Re: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: Radical Plato on October 28, 2011, 04:38:13 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/27/kelvin-sgt-mac-mcfarland-boot-camp-video_n_1051216.html?icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-sb-bb%7Cdl3%7Csec1_lnk1%7C108107


LOL! :D
I just watched the video : what a bunch of mongoloids!


What the hell is wrong with that, that was a normal night at my house growing up, except I gave as good as I got, that weak ass bitch, caved like a little girl  ;D from a little bit of yelling.  I cant believe they report this as abuse, it lessens the reality of real child abuse victims.
Title: Re: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: apply85 on October 28, 2011, 04:44:06 PM
the video is kind of funny, this is much tamer than I thought, i hope this kid does something productive with the anger that they instill in him, he looks like he has some courage for a kid that young. abuse really can create a stronger creature, it takes some time to push the will of those who abuse you out of your head, but if the victim bides his time and understands what is going on he can come out better for it on the other side
Title: Re: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: Parker on October 28, 2011, 04:45:03 PM
I guess those kids have never heard of Bobby Knight...lol!
The whole coming back with a piece of toilet tissue with shit on it would have really eff the kids up.
Title: Re: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: apply85 on October 28, 2011, 04:58:06 PM
russian army is a joke, al ltheir good for is covert operations which the cia could pull off blidn folded like creating tension between uzbeks and khazaks by going in with masks and setting fire to villages on both sides and blaming the other village, lol. the russian army was dismantled piece by piece and sold on the black market after the collapse of the ussr, how do you think the columbians got submarines to bring cocaine to the us
Title: Re: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: apply85 on October 28, 2011, 05:36:09 PM
lol u kidding me, there is a guy living under us protection in israel who sold a russian submarine to a drug lord, wtf did you study, and why would drug traffickers kill their customers. degree, lol, I hope you are just some 15 year old
Title: Re: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: JBGRAY on October 28, 2011, 06:04:18 PM
Russia is great country.  Superpower!  Putin is most respected leader.  don't hurt me



Oh, back to topic.....this is why they outlawed these "boot camps" in Florida.  They don't work.  The correct route in rehabilitating children is through the Foster and Adoption system, where these children can obtain roots and develop normally, albeit later in life than usual.

These boot camps and use of prison scare tactics only make for good TV.  What children need are stable, loving families that can provide for them.
Title: Re: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: WillGrant on October 28, 2011, 06:17:57 PM
Seems someone has been watching to many movies
Title: Re: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 28, 2011, 06:51:31 PM
I didn't even have to yell at him, I just "encouraged" him.









Here's me abusing a whole team.....quick, call child services ::)

Title: Re: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: chaos on October 28, 2011, 06:59:08 PM
What did you have those guys do after the warm ups on the videos ???
Title: Re: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: outby43 on October 28, 2011, 07:06:24 PM
What did you have those guys do after the warm ups on the videos ???

 ;D
Title: Re: Shocking Video Reveals Abuse at Camp
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 28, 2011, 07:33:16 PM
Ha!