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Shaken baby snydrome sucks:
New Rochelle father charged with assaulting his infant son
(09/12/03) WHITE PLAINS - A New Rochelle father is charged with assaulting his infant son, who later died.
Police say Juan Morel, 21, claimed his 5-month-old son fell on Wednesday and that's why he and the baby's mother took the boy to Sound Shore Medical Center in New Rochelle. The hospital then notified police and after detectives questioned Morel, they concluded that the baby had been shaken. The baby died on Thursday after being put on life support.
Neighbors who live at 234 Drake Avenue say they always heard the couple fighting and the baby crying. One woman said she feels guilty for not reporting the fighting sooner.
Morel is now charged with assault and is being held at the Westchester County Jail.
Meanwhile, police are waiting for an autopsy report to determine the exact cause of death. The baby's mother has not been charged. The couple also has a 3-year-old daughter who is now in child protective services.
http://www.news12.com/LI/topstories/article?id=90306
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apparantly, a guy named Juan Morel from the same city that the IFBB Pro Juan Morel lives killed his baby by shaking it in 2003, when Morel was 21 (wich also match with Juan Morel the IFBB Pro's age)
and he did jail for some unknown reason
so...
The thread is on Special Ed's forum
*** I am not accusing the IFBB Pro Juan Morel of anything, just mentionning the fact *** for legal security 8)
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the ifbb pro jaun morel was in jail for killing his by performing a piledriver while play wrestling...i dont know about that baby killing tho
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the ifbb pro jaun morel was in jail for killing his by performing a piledriver while play wrestling...i dont know about that baby killing tho
he cant be that stupid. i use to piledrive my younger sister, but i never let her head touch the floor. negro can't be that stupid.
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the ifbb pro jaun morel was in jail for killing his by performing a piledriver while play wrestling...i dont know about that baby killing tho
I don't know I am just reporting what I saw on Special Ed's forum
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he cant be that stupid. i use to piledrive my younger sister, but i never let her head touch the floor. negro can't be that stupid.
Did you like it when your sister grazed your penis with her head whilst in the Pile Driver position?
(http://coedmagazine.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/pile-driver.jpg)
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he cant be that stupid. i use to piledrive my younger sister, but i never let her head touch the floor. negro can't be that stupid.
hes a bodybuilder so yes he can be that stupid.
and that story of strangling the baby does seem to be the ifbb pro jaun morel, in the article it mentions that he has a 3 yr old daughter during the time of the baby strangling, and the ifbb pro does have a daughter who is currently at least 10..jaun morel= babykiler what a scum bag
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http://nysdocslookup.docs.state.ny.us/GCA00P00/WIQ3/WINQ130
Both could fit, there is a Juan Morel that was born in the early 80's and was in for 2nd Manslaughter. The others are too old or in for podunk crimes. Just put his name in the search above.
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http://nysdocslookup.docs.state.ny.us/GCA00P00/WIQ3/WINQ130
Both could fit, there is a Juan Morel that was born in the early 80's and was in for 2nd Manslaughter. The others are too old or in for podunk crimes. Just put his name in the search above.
it looks as if the ifbb pro juan morel is the first one listed there. so that being in jail for killing his friend with a pile driver was apparently bullshit. sick baby kiler
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it looks as if the ifbb pro juan morel is the first one listed there. so that being in jail for killing his friend with a pile driver was apparently bullshit. sick baby kiler
Yeah, it does seem that way. The wrestling story was a good one though, it's got that "So odd it could be true" vibe that that people just shrug and accept most of the time.
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Yeah. That's it.
The tech on here is slick. Auto-editing and shit.
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someone needs to clear this up. if 100% true this is awful
if it was however true and he was bbing at the time i m suprised that the media didn't bring up roid rage ;)
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someone needs to clear this up. if 100% true this is awful
if it was however true and he was bbing at the time i m suprised that the media didn't bring up roid rage ;)
i never knew this. I actually liked the dude ( until now)
but i thought he got into bodybuilding after prison
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How long do do you think this thread would last if "accidentally" posted over on RX?
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damn damn damn. :(
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How long do do you think this thread would last if "accidentally" posted over on RX?
im guessing schmoe weider didnt run a background check
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I'd like to read some more proof tho, before relating this TERRIBLE to the IFBB Pro Juan Morel
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I'd like to read some more proof tho, before relating this TERRIBLE to the IFBB Pro Juan Morel
for sure. some investigating needs to be done. unfortunely i know little about computers ;D i would however really like to know the truth
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I'd like to read some more proof tho, before relating this TERRIBLE to the IFBB Pro Juan Morel
Height, race, residence, DOB should be good identifiers.
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Morel's dob is April 2, 1982, lives in New Rochelle
I believe both stories are true(the kid and and the manslaughter 2 for killing his friend).
Got out in 2007
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Morel's dob is April 2, 1982, lives in New Rochelle
I believe both stories are true(the kid and and the manslaughter 2 for killing his friend).
Got out in 2007
Damn, these Dominicans...Vic, Juan, whose next, Delarosa?
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It seems funny to me that you just search so many bodybuilders in these systems... often have rap sheets as we have seen on these boards over the years
I mean assaults, manslaughter, drugs and domestic violence :o :o
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It seems funny to me that you just search so many bodybuilders in these systems... often have rap sheets as we have seen on these boards over the years
I mean assaults, manslaughter, drugs and domestic violence :o :o
let's not forget those that get away with it, meaning don't get arrested.
This story sickens me to the core. Fucking scumbag. I tried to research what happend to his little girl that was taken to protective custody? did she permanently get placed somewhere or back to her sick fuck parents
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Ok now its getting a bit overboard. She's only with him in every interview he does. Its one thing to make these messed up joke about him but that little girl is a child and shouldn't even be talked about at all.
>:(
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let's not forget those that get away with it, meaning don't get arrested.
This story sickens me to the core. Fucking scumbag. I tried to research what happend to his little girl that was taken to protective custody? did she permanently get placed somewhere or back to her sick fuck parents
Here she is here..
http://www.rxmuscle.com/videos/c-interviews/4073-juan-qdieselq-morel-after-winning-the-2011-ifbb-north-america-mens-overall-championship.html
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Here she is here..
http://www.rxmuscle.com/videos/c-interviews/4073-juan-qdieselq-morel-after-winning-the-2011-ifbb-north-america-mens-overall-championship.html
FUCKING CRIPES that sounds like my ex.
thanks big dub, pretty girl she is.
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When more people learn that he went to jail for killing his helpless baby, the Schmoes will jump to his defense - "He served his time", "He's suffered enough", "Don't you think there isn't one day that he doesn't regret what he did?".
ALL BULLSHIT. If you have good shape and full muscle bellies, you can be a baby killer, a pederast, a racist, a drug pusher, anything, in this sick industry, as long as your big and ripped. Bunch of sickening Nancies in this industry.
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You have to be the dirtiest fucking piece of shit to kill a baby
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When more people learn that he went to jail for killing his helpless baby, the Schmoes will jump to his defense - "He served his time", "He's suffered enough", "Don't you think there isn't one day that he doesn't regret what he did?".
ALL BULLSHIT. If you have good shape and full muscle bellies, you can be a baby killer, a pederast, a racist, a drug pusher, anything, in this sick industry, as long as your big and ripped. Bunch of sickening Nancies in this industry.
Truth.
Let some guy kill your baby and forgive him with rationalizations of "He did his time."
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Guy is dumb as rocks.
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Where is the jewbacca singer man gossip column?
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Where is the jewbacca singer man gossip column?
NEVER going to happen, he wants his press passes and to not "hurt" his baby shaking friend. Plus muscle rules over all else in this game.
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so what is the verdict. is this 100% true and verified or what
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Why the fuck are my rather innocuous posts being deleted?
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You have to be the dirtiest fucking piece of shit to kill a baby
Agreed. A baby is so innocent and can't defend itself. I can never understand anybody getting angry at a baby, even for constantly crying. If the baby is crying, then comfort it..give it a cuddle. Otherwise, take it to the doctor. I remember my son was crying all night( which he never did) and I took him to the doctors and he had a middle ear infection.
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Where is the jewbacca singer man gossip column?
yeah it's strange that the asshole singerman isn't all over this story
he might be friend with the mcdonald eating drug addict Juan Morel, but Singerman would sell his mother for a bodybuilding gossip scoop
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Agreed. A baby is so innocent and can't defend itself. I can never understand anybody getting angry at a baby, even for constantly crying. If the baby is crying, then comfort it..give it a cuddle. Otherwise, take it to the doctor. I remember my son was crying all night( which he never did) and I took him to the doctors and he had a middle ear infection.
I'll never have a child so I'll never know, don't want to raise a child in this fucked up world we live in
Had I lived in the 50's or 60's, I would have.
now, no
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I'll never have a child so I'll never know, don't want to raise a child in this fucked up world we live in
Had I lived in the 50's or 60's, I would have.
now, no
You say this because you are very young, but how do you know that the woman you end up falling in love with won't want to have a baby with you? You will want to make her happy and create something together. Love changes everything! It's human nature...it's how the race keeps surviving.
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You say this because you are very young, but how do you know that the woman you end up falling in love with won't want to have a baby with you? You will want to make her happy and create something together. Love changes everything! It's human nature...it's how the race keeps surviving.
my girlfriend wants to have babies and I told her I don't and won't want any and if she isn't happy with that well there are a lot of guys for her out there.
I want to make her happy but I don't want children so it's up to her
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my girlfriend wants to have babies and I told her I don't and won't want any and if she isn't happy with that well there are a lot of guys for her out there.
I want to make her happy but I don't want children so it's up to her
Then you risk losing her oneday. Because oneday the desire to have a baby will be so strong that she will walk away to fulfil her desire. Hopefully before this, you change your mind. I've seen couples stay together for many many years saying that they won't have children and then oneday one of them up and leaves and the other is left devastated. My mother worked with a woman who had this happen. She was with her husband for 15 years, they weren't having any children. Oneday he left her for someone else and now has a baby with the new woman.
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on m u s c l e week.com, someone posted Juan's response. He sure as fuck didn't deny it
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on m u s c l e week.com, someone posted Juan's response. He sure as fuck didn't deny it
Not good.
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apparantly, a guy named Juan Morel from the same city that the IFBB Pro Juan Morel lives killed his baby by shaking it in 2003, when Morel was 21 (wich also match with Juan Morel the IFBB Pro's age)
and he did jail for some unknown reason
so...
The thread is on Special Ed's forum
*** I am not accusing the IFBB Pro Juan Morel of anything, just mentionning the fact *** for legal security 8)
If it were the same person the papers would have said bb with roid rage kills infant.
no way they wouldnt have used that angle to bash bb and steriods.
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on m u s c l e week.com, someone posted Juan's response. He sure as fuck didn't deny it
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This him ?
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JuanDiesel
IFBB Pro Bodybuilder
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 829
Rep Power: 41218
Quote:
Originally Posted by danx
Juan im a fan so i would like to let you know a bunch of guys are posting articles about you and past issues. We all have skeletons in our closet unfortunately your a pro athlete now. You should just set the record straight bro. Shut those haters up.
I cant wait to see you on that pro stage, your one of the few pros who turn to the back and look better
thanks for the compliment!! Honestly i seen the post chose not to get involve and ignore it!!
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Juan Diesel
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What a schmoe. "turn to the back an looks better" :-X
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You say this because you are very young, but how do you know that the woman you end up falling in love with won't want to have a baby with you? You will want to make her happy and create something together. Love changes everything! It's human nature...it's how the race keeps surviving.
LMAO..If you change your mind on something you've stood your ground on so long because a bitch feels different and because you "love" her? You are not a man...
Oh brother...
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... He DID not deny it.
it must be him, anybody would have denied this shit to stop being associated to this horrible murder
>:(
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Throw him out of the IFBB. Child killer.
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Seriously he is just as bad as Titus, if not worst
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Seriously he is just as bad as Titus, if not worst
If he killed his kid they should have killed him. Hang the fucking pig. Scum of the earth.
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This him ?
Looks like him, but he is twice that size now.
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Maybe he didn't deny it because he think's its ridiculous and an outrageous accusation.
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guys a fucking moron. bodybuilding is the only thing he can do other than drive a truck or work in a warehouse.. of course hes teamed up with dave palumbo. what a bum
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Maybe he didn't deny it because he think's its ridiculous and an outrageous accusation.
or maybe he tries to avoid the subject hoping everybody will forget in a week
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or maybe he tries to avoid the subject hoping everybody will forget in a week
It's not something you would want people to know. Shaking an innocent baby to death is the lowest you can go.
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At this point, he needs to make an official statement about his past before it gets out of control. I don't know what to believe.
He's a pro now and it's bound to come up...Age of the internet. It's something he's always going to have to learn to live with. Hiding or ignoring will only make it worse....So, official statement please.
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... He DID not deny it.
it must be him, anybody would have denied this shit to stop being associated to this horrible murder
>:(
I agree with Stavios!
This is the lowest of the low!
He killed an innocent, defenseless baby!
This little baby couldnt defend itself!
If this guy could do this to an innocent child, imagine what this piece of shit does to adults or women?
Fuck this bitch!!
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At this point, he needs to make an official statement about his past before it gets out of control. I don't know what to believe.
He's a pro now and it's bound to come up...Age of the internet. It's something he's always going to have to learn to live with. Hiding or ignoring will only make it worse....So, official statement please.
I agree Wiggs.
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I copied and pasted this from John Romano.
OMG... Lets all agree on one thing: If you heard it on a message board by an anonymous board jockey chances are near 100% it's not true.
First, Juan Morel and Dave did not meet in prison. Dave was serving a federal beef in West Virginia. Juan did state time in NY.
Yes, he did. This is the REAL story, in spite of the bullshit story printed int he Daily News, and the unsubstantiated crap being flung on various message boards by self proclaimed experts who actually know nothing. Flex magazine is doing a feature on the incident, complete with testimony from the baby's mother, who was present when the child died.
Juan DID NOT shake his baby to death. As he stated last night, and corroborated by the baby's mother, Juan was playing with the infant when he accidentally hit her head on the crib rail. It was a freak accident that proved fatal.
So, why did Juan go to prison for three years for an accident? Well, it appears that the prosecutor wanted to make an example of him. New Rochell is comprised of predominantly upper class white neighborhoods. Juan is from a predominantly black/Hispanic neighborhood in the Bronx. Juan and his rowdy friends were not welcome in New Rochell where his GF lived. apparently the cops were called frequently to the apartment where she lived, Juan's friends had gotten into it several times with neighbors, and in general proved to be an unwelcome elemnt in the neighborhood. When cops and EMS responded to the 911 call They arrested Juan with glee.
I know Juan. He is not a cold blooded baby killer. While this is the first I've heard about the incident, I am from NY and can easily see how the situation could have unfolded the way Juan reports. I can only imagine the grief he dealt with while trying to defend himself. Today, Juan is a decidedly different person and this incident has no bearing on his current bodybuilding career whatsoever.
This is the story in a nutshell. Keep an eye out for the feature to appear in Flex magazine for more in depth details.
I am not going to squelch conversation on this topic so long as it doesn't get ugly. Please be respectful and keep in mind that accidents do happen and this tragedy will haunt Juan forever. Everyone please make sure you get your facts straight before posting.
Thank you
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I copied and pasted this from John Romano.
OMG... Lets all agree on one thing: If you heard it on a message board by an anonymous board jockey chances are near 100% it's not true.
First, Juan Morel and Dave did not meet in prison. Dave was serving a federal beef in West Virginia. Juan did state time in NY.
Yes, he did. This is the REAL story, in spite of the bullshit story printed int he Daily News, and the unsubstantiated crap being flung on various message boards by self proclaimed experts who actually know nothing. Flex magazine is doing a feature on the incident, complete with testimony from the baby's mother, who was present when the child died.
Juan DID NOT shake his baby to death. As he stated last night, and corroborated by the baby's mother, Juan was playing with the infant when he accidentally hit her head on the crib rail. It was a freak accident that proved fatal.
So, why did Juan go to prison for three years for an accident? Well, it appears that the prosecutor wanted to make an example of him. New Rochell is comprised of predominantly upper class white neighborhoods. Juan is from a predominantly black/Hispanic neighborhood in the Bronx. Juan and his rowdy friends were not welcome in New Rochell where his GF lived. apparently the cops were called frequently to the apartment where she lived, Juan's friends had gotten into it several times with neighbors, and in general proved to be an unwelcome elemnt in the neighborhood. When cops and EMS responded to the 911 call They arrested Juan with glee.
I know Juan. He is not a cold blooded baby killer. While this is the first I've heard about the incident, I am from NY and can easily see how the situation could have unfolded the way Juan reports. I can only imagine the grief he dealt with while trying to defend himself. Today, Juan is a decidedly different person and this incident has no bearing on his current bodybuilding career whatsoever.
This is the story in a nutshell. Keep an eye out for the feature to appear in Flex magazine for more in depth details.
I am not going to squelch conversation on this topic so long as it doesn't get ugly. Please be respectful and keep in mind that accidents do happen and this tragedy will haunt Juan forever. Everyone please make sure you get your facts straight before posting.
Thank you
even if it was an accident as what this post stated, he did killed his own baby by his own hand. Accident or not, his baby died in his hand.
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Well, if JOHN ROMANO, the ex convict / thief / junky says so, that it must be true
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Well, if JOHN ROMANO, the ex convict / thief / junky says so, that it must be true
How the fuck can he be changing the story of playing with a 5 month old and accidently hit his head on the crib when he originally said:
New Rochelle father charged with assaulting his infant son
(09/12/03) WHITE PLAINS - A New Rochelle father is charged with assaulting his infant son, who later died.
Police say Juan Morel, 21, claimed his 5-month-old son fell on Wednesday and that's why he and the baby's mother took the boy to Sound Shore Medical Center in New Rochelle. The hospital then notified police and after detectives questioned Morel, they concluded that the baby had been shaken. The baby died on Thursday after being put on life support.
Neighbors who live at 234 Drake Avenue say they always heard the couple fighting and the baby crying. One woman said she feels guilty for not reporting the fighting sooner.
Morel is now charged with assault and is being held at the Westchester County Jail.
Meanwhile, police are waiting for an autopsy report to determine the exact cause of death. The baby's mother has not been charged. The couple also has a 3-year-old daughter who is now in child protective services.
John Romano is lying for him!
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I copied and pasted this from John Romano.
OMG... Lets all agree on one thing: If you heard it on a message board by an anonymous board jockey chances are near 100% it's not true.
First, Juan Morel and Dave did not meet in prison. Dave was serving a federal beef in West Virginia. Juan did state time in NY.
Yes, he did. This is the REAL story, in spite of the bullshit story printed int he Daily News, and the unsubstantiated crap being flung on various message boards by self proclaimed experts who actually know nothing. Flex magazine is doing a feature on the incident, complete with testimony from the baby's mother, who was present when the child died.
Juan DID NOT shake his baby to death. As he stated last night, and corroborated by the baby's mother, Juan was playing with the infant when he accidentally hit her head on the crib rail. It was a freak accident that proved fatal.
So, why did Juan go to prison for three years for an accident? Well, it appears that the prosecutor wanted to make an example of him. New Rochell is comprised of predominantly upper class white neighborhoods. Juan is from a predominantly black/Hispanic neighborhood in the Bronx. Juan and his rowdy friends were not welcome in New Rochell where his GF lived. apparently the cops were called frequently to the apartment where she lived, Juan's friends had gotten into it several times with neighbors, and in general proved to be an unwelcome elemnt in the neighborhood. When cops and EMS responded to the 911 call They arrested Juan with glee.
I know Juan. He is not a cold blooded baby killer. While this is the first I've heard about the incident, I am from NY and can easily see how the situation could have unfolded the way Juan reports. I can only imagine the grief he dealt with while trying to defend himself. Today, Juan is a decidedly different person and this incident has no bearing on his current bodybuilding career whatsoever.
This is the story in a nutshell. Keep an eye out for the feature to appear in Flex magazine for more in depth details.
I am not going to squelch conversation on this topic so long as it doesn't get ugly. Please be respectful and keep in mind that accidents do happen and this tragedy will haunt Juan forever. Everyone please make sure you get your facts straight before posting.
Thank you
Seems like Romano is making this shit up...the baby was a boy not a girl!
He cant gets his facts straight!!
Romano is a bad liar!
Claimed he gained 30 pounds of muscle from VPX supplements LOL
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romano getting the child's gender is nor here nor there
it is the gist of the post that is vintage romano-- total bullshit
i don't think morel set out to purposefully kill his child whatever what he did that caused it to happen, shake , drop whatever-again the actual method is beside the point as long as it is 'gross negligence' which seems to be the case
now for the conspiracy theory that the man was out to get him, well that is just romano up to his usual shit creating his own reality as he goes along
Delusional is surely one of his main traits, the fucker is a complete sociopath that seems to believe his own shit
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rofl piece of shit tried to play the race card in defending this stupid spic child killer...burn Juan at the stake along with Romano
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He was possibly throwing the baby up in the air and not caught it. That's why you never play that game, it's dangerous. Babys heads are so soft and you can't risk a fall.
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He was possibly throwing the baby up in the air and not caught it. That's why you never play that game, it's dangerous. Babys heads are so soft and you can't risk a fall.
Seriously?
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Seriously?
I don't know, I wasn't there. I am trying to give the guy the benefit of the doubt...I don't want to believe he shook his baby to death.
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What about the "piledriver" story, if you are the victim of a racially motivated conviction on top of the tragic "accidental" death of your newborn, why would you say you went to jail for a piledriving accident? That's the most suspicious thing, and seems to cement the validity of the original news article about the baby dying due to being shaken.
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This guy should have known you can't use a baby as a Shake Weight
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why do u guys care so much, what if his little kid was evil? what if he killed the next coming of hitler
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Nobody gives a shit, the people at all the other boards are making excuses "this was years ago" or the threads are deleted.
This is your NPC/IFBB - where talking about PEDs and contest riggings is forbidden but commonplace, and killing your own baby is covered up just the same.
Even if he admits it the Schmoes every where will forgive him since he's got good muscle bellies. Fucking pathetic.
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He was possibly throwing the baby up in the air and not caught it. That's why you never play that game, it's dangerous. Babys heads are so soft and you can't risk a fall.
I NEVER did that to my infant child. The whole story fucking stinks to high heaven. Yank that fuckers pro card and tell him to take a fucking flying leap off the whitestone bridge.
New Rochelle wasn't trying to make him an example, the facts are the facts..
fucking scum
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I NEVER did that to my infant child. The whole story fucking stinks to high heaven. Yank that fuckers pro card and tell him to take a fucking flying leap off the whitestone bridge.
New Rochelle wasn't trying to make him an example, the facts are the facts..
fucking scum
Me neither Rommingmom.....only wankers throw their infants up into the air. :-\ Maybe he threw the baby at the cot in a rage? Or maybe he did infact shake it, which appears to be the most likely case.
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I copied and pasted this from John Romano.
OMG... Lets all agree on one thing: If you heard it on a message board by an anonymous board jockey chances are near 100% it's not true.
First, Juan Morel and Dave did not meet in prison. Dave was serving a federal beef in West Virginia. Juan did state time in NY.
Yes, he did. This is the REAL story, in spite of the bullshit story printed int he Daily News, and the unsubstantiated crap being flung on various message boards by self proclaimed experts who actually know nothing. Flex magazine is doing a feature on the incident, complete with testimony from the baby's mother, who was present when the child died.
Juan DID NOT shake his baby to death. As he stated last night, and corroborated by the baby's mother, Juan was playing with the infant when he accidentally hit her head on the crib rail. It was a freak accident that proved fatal.
So, why did Juan go to prison for three years for an accident? Well, it appears that the prosecutor wanted to make an example of him. New Rochell is comprised of predominantly upper class white neighborhoods. Juan is from a predominantly black/Hispanic neighborhood in the Bronx. Juan and his rowdy friends were not welcome in New Rochell where his GF lived. apparently the cops were called frequently to the apartment where she lived, Juan's friends had gotten into it several times with neighbors, and in general proved to be an unwelcome elemnt in the neighborhood. When cops and EMS responded to the 911 call They arrested Juan with glee.
I know Juan. He is not a cold blooded baby killer. While this is the first I've heard about the incident, I am from NY and can easily see how the situation could have unfolded the way Juan reports. I can only imagine the grief he dealt with while trying to defend himself. Today, Juan is a decidedly different person and this incident has no bearing on his current bodybuilding career whatsoever.
This is the story in a nutshell. Keep an eye out for the feature to appear in Flex magazine for more in depth details.
I am not going to squelch conversation on this topic so long as it doesn't get ugly. Please be respectful and keep in mind that accidents do happen and this tragedy will haunt Juan forever. Everyone please make sure you get your facts straight before posting.
Thank you
So he went to jail cos hes not white?
Em no, he went to jail cos he murdered his child, and 3years...come on i
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Romano is the joke of the industry, he is a spin doctor. If this was an MD athlete then he would be all over the story and blowing it up but because it's a guy he likes he just makes up a random and bad story, it's not even slightly believable.
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Romano is the joke of the industry, he is a spin doctor. If this was an MD athlete then he would be all over the story and blowing it up but because it's a guy he likes he just makes up a random and bad story, it's not even slightly believable.
If it was Blechman he would never shut up about it. We would read about it until our eyes bled.
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If it was Blechman he would never shut up about it. We would read about it until our eyes bled.
You are correct, he would be going crazy, Romano is a mess and a bitter man with an agenda
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Juan DID NOT shake his baby to death. As he stated last night, and corroborated by the baby's mother, Juan was playing with the infant when he accidentally hit her head on the crib rail. It was a freak accident that proved fatal.
So, why did Juan go to prison for three years for an accident? Well, it appears that the prosecutor wanted to make an example of him. New Rochell is comprised of predominantly upper class white neighborhoods. Juan is from a predominantly black/Hispanic neighborhood in the Bronx. Juan and his rowdy friends were not welcome in New Rochell where his GF lived. apparently the cops were called frequently to the apartment where she lived, Juan's friends had gotten into it several times with neighbors, and in general proved to be an unwelcome elemnt in the neighborhood. When cops and EMS responded to the 911 call They arrested Juan with glee.
I know Juan. He is not a cold blooded baby killer. While this is the first I've heard about the incident, I am from NY and can easily see how the situation could have unfolded the way Juan reports. I can only imagine the grief he dealt with while trying to defend himself. Today, Juan is a decidedly different person and this incident has no bearing on his current bodybuilding career whatsoever.
This is the story in a nutshell.
Stupid cover up story, even more than the piledriving story.
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Why do people shake babies? What does shaking do?
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Why do people shake babies? What does shaking do?
Shaken baby syndrome (SBS) is a form of child abuse that is diagnosed from a triad of symptoms: subdural hematoma, retinal hemorrhage, and brain swelling. In a majority of cases there is no visible sign of external trauma.
SBS is often fatal and can cause severe brain damage, resulting in lifelong disability. Estimated death rates (mortality) among infants with SBS range from 15% to 38%; the median is 20%–25%. Up to half of deaths related to child abuse are reportedly due to shaken baby syndrome.[1][not in citation given] Nonfatal consequences of SBS include varying degrees of visual impairment (including blindness), motor impairment (e.g. cerebral palsy) and cognitive impairments.[citation
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I copied and pasted this from John Romano.
OMG... Lets all agree on one thing: If you heard it on a message board by an anonymous board jockey chances are near 100% it's not true.
First, Juan Morel and Dave did not meet in prison. Dave was serving a federal beef in West Virginia. Juan did state time in NY.
Yes, he did. This is the REAL story, in spite of the bullshit story printed int he Daily News, and the unsubstantiated crap being flung on various message boards by self proclaimed experts who actually know nothing. Flex magazine is doing a feature on the incident, complete with testimony from the baby's mother, who was present when the child died.
Juan DID NOT shake his baby to death. As he stated last night, and corroborated by the baby's mother, Juan was playing with the infant when he accidentally hit her head on the crib rail. It was a freak accident that proved fatal.
So, why did Juan go to prison for three years for an accident? Well, it appears that the prosecutor wanted to make an example of him. New Rochell is comprised of predominantly upper class white neighborhoods. Juan is from a predominantly black/Hispanic neighborhood in the Bronx. Juan and his rowdy friends were not welcome in New Rochell where his GF lived. apparently the cops were called frequently to the apartment where she lived, Juan's friends had gotten into it several times with neighbors, and in general proved to be an unwelcome elemnt in the neighborhood. When cops and EMS responded to the 911 call They arrested Juan with glee.
I know Juan. He is not a cold blooded baby killer. While this is the first I've heard about the incident, I am from NY and can easily see how the situation could have unfolded the way Juan reports. I can only imagine the grief he dealt with while trying to defend himself. Today, Juan is a decidedly different person and this incident has no bearing on his current bodybuilding career whatsoever.
This is the story in a nutshell. Keep an eye out for the feature to appear in Flex magazine for more in depth details.
I am not going to squelch conversation on this topic so long as it doesn't get ugly. Please be respectful and keep in mind that accidents do happen and this tragedy will haunt Juan forever. Everyone please make sure you get your facts straight before posting.
Thank you
'Today Juan is a decidedly different person'
What? He doesnt throw children around anyore?
Theres outlets for people like Juan, its called midget tossing, if he wants to abuse small people he should try that instead of murdering his baby
Plus romanos mate palumbo was serving a 'federal beef' for selling fake anabolics and gh, hes so corrupt he cant even sell real ones
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With their actions when stories like this surface, guys like Romano and Singerman lose more and more credibility............. ..................if that is possible ;D
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Shaken baby syndrome (SBS) is a form of child abuse that is diagnosed from a triad of symptoms: subdural hematoma, retinal hemorrhage, and brain swelling. In a majority of cases there is no visible sign of external trauma.
SBS is often fatal and can cause severe brain damage, resulting in lifelong disability. Estimated death rates (mortality) among infants with SBS range from 15% to 38%; the median is 20%–25%. Up to half of deaths related to child abuse are reportedly due to shaken baby syndrome.[1][not in citation given] Nonfatal consequences of SBS include varying degrees of visual impairment (including blindness), motor impairment (e.g. cerebral palsy) and cognitive impairments.[citation
question was:why...?
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damn,,,,
if you take the HEAVY drugs out of the sport... does a lot of this change? guys getting arrested/detained, all these other charges...
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damn,,,,
if you take the HEAVY drugs out of the sport... does a lot of this change? guys getting arrested/detained, all these other charges...
If you take drugs out of the "sport" then all you would have left is what you see when these guys retire : drug dealers and addicts, murderers, domestic abusers etc... the lowest common denominator.
What does it tell you when people like Shawn Ray and Dave Palumbo are considered "the good guys" in the "sport"
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same way a guy like kobe can fly to colorado and ass rape an 18 year old hotel worker - and be back on commercials/endorsements in 3 years.
people have goldfish memories.
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If there was nothing to hide why make up a piledriving story to begin with?? Why not just say we had a tragic accident at home with our SON not Daughter (for romano) and I am sure it would have never become an issue as it has now???
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If there was nothing to hide why make up a piledriving story to begin with?? Why not just say we had a tragic accident at home with our SON not Daughter (for romano) and I am sure it would have never become an issue as it has now???
when that scumbag jon romano sticks up for you, you know that something very bad happened.
what hole did that creep crawl out of by the way.
i thought he was back in jail after he was fired from rxmuscle
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So funny how formerly top NPC bodybuilder Juan Morel (aka Juan Diesel Morel) now IFBB Pro Juan Morel gets to prance around in a thong while claiming he got sent to jail for a tragic "piledriver" accident, and literally nobody gives a shit that it was because he's a baby shaker.
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question was:why...?
Question also was, what does shaking do.
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So what's the verdict? is it OK to shake your baby to death if you do time in prison?
Should Juan Morel have to answer for the lie of the piledriving story to cover up his baby shaking past or should he be allowed to move and compete as a Pro athlete in the ranks of the IFBB with no questions being asked into his past?
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Didnt an american football player get in serious shit for making dogs fight and he was scandalised in his sport
We have a baby killer in ours and its ok? Fuck off
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So what's the verdict? is it OK to shake your baby to death if you do time in prison?
Should Juan Morel have to answer for the lie of the piledriving story to cover up his baby shaking past or should he be allowed to move and compete as a Pro athlete in the ranks of the IFBB with no questions being asked into his past?
His sponsers will probably hear about this and drop him.
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His sponsers will probably hear about this and drop him.
Most likely not being he is a Species sponsored athlete, that company has no problem with criminal activity, look who the owner is.
As far as FLEX magazine, that will be interesting. I am going to guess that since they just signed him, they may keep him and let this go since it's in his past but who knows.
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Most likely not being he is a Species sponsored athlete, that company has no problem with criminal activity, look who the owner is.
As far as FLEX magazine, that will be interesting. I am going to guess that since they just signed him, they may keep him and let this go since it's in his past but who knows.
LOL
I don't think he could do anything to get dropped from species. Didn't pj Braun also get arrested lately?
I think there was actually competition to sign him ... Serves welder right for not doing their homework
I'm sure they are thrilled to have a child abuser representing the company
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LOL
I don't think he could do anything to get dropped from species. Didn't pj Braun also get arrested lately?
I think there was actually competition to sign him ... Serves welder right for not doing their homework
I'm sure they are thrilled to have a child abuser babyslaughterer representing the company
Fixed.
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Goddamn.
Someone put me on why my posts get deleted.
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Goddamn.
Someone put me on why my posts get deleted.
Which posts hun?
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Which posts hun?
There were a few, Booty.
The last was a response to ether. At least a freaking mod can put me on to the offenses based in Getbig culture.
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Someone said they deleted a 10 page thread over at M D on this
I'm shocked its still up
Of course the truth in bodybuilding feels ignoring it will make it go away
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Someone said they deleted a 10 page thread over at M D on this
I'm shocked its still up
Of course the truth in bodybuilding feels ignoring it will make it go away
Yeah. Saw that.
They got scared once the story was posted with the MU SCLE WE EK image.
Getbig gets respect for keeping this thread up.
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BUMP
BABYKILLER SCUM
you should be on GH15 list of scum
crima against baby now also crime against bodybuilding
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Email weider publications and announce you wont buy anymore of their magazines, not that we do, if they keep killer morel as athlethe
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It would be nice to know what really happened and how Juan feels about this, since he portrayed himself as a generally likeable and stand up guy.
Of course bodybuildings version of Anderson Cooper ::) has been shut up once again when any negative press might affect rxmuscle (see pj braun getting arrested (again) for drugs (again))
One would have to believe (based on what that dirtbag romano says) that he feels no remorse and blames everyone but himself, which is unfortunate for him and for weider.
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Still not verfied though, right??
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Still not verfied though, right??
what do you need verified per se? I posted his response when someone on MD asked him, he didn't deny it nor comment. I dunno about you but that's a serious accusation, grant it, I can understand he doesn't or may not want to clear his name to internet strangers but seriously, for something that serious, I sure would.
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If his physique is impressive enough he should be forgiven, or at least we can ignore it.
If his physique is not good enough then he is a baby murderer and deserves all he gets.
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what do you need verified per se? I posted his response when someone on MD asked him, he didn't deny it nor comment. I dunno about you but that's a serious accusation, grant it, I can understand he doesn't or may not want to clear his name to internet strangers but seriously, for something that serious, I sure would.
He's guilty.
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He's guilty. He killed his 3 year old child.
We can't be sure. If he looks good on stage then we need to stfu and cut the guy some slack..
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I admit I haven't read all the responses, has anyone posted "he served his time".. Fuck that and fuck him. Pig viale of human.
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I admit I haven't read all the responses, has anyone posted "he served his time".. Fuck that and fuck him. Pig viale of human.
He did 3 years didn't he?
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We can't be sure. If he looks good on stage then we need to stfu and cut the guy some slack..
This cannot be overstated. No matter your past, your sins WILL be washed away if you accept the Steel as your savior and serve your time in the Iron Dungeon, torturing yourself rep after rep to sculpt the ideal embodiment of Zeus himself. Matters such as child killing are left to mere mortals, for Gods like Juan, there is glory and triumph in the Miracle that is Bodybuilding.
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He did 3 years didn't he?
What's that, 1 year for each month that he shook out of his son?
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What's that, 1 year for each month that he shook out of his son?
I am just going by that article by John Romano. He said that he did 3 years for "accidently" killing his infant son.
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If he did it, I don't want to see his goofy mug on magazine covers and holding/trophies. Kai fucking a grapefruit is zero in comparison. If he didn't do it, then more power to him.
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If he did it, I don't want to see his goofy mug on magazine covers and holding/trophies. Kai fucking a grapefruit is zero in comparison. If he didn't do it, then more power to him.
I wonder what the ifbb think about all of this? Killing a child is the worst crime ever.
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As a fellow recreational baby shaking pile driver, I say there is no metabolic/anabolic disadvantage that cannot be overcome by upping the dosage. Liver quiver, bladder splatter dosages.
Boom, cheesecake
Booty is hot. Shake shake shake senora, shake yer body line....
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Juan morel is the type of guy that you would want to roll a 30lb dumbbell behind his foot when hes squatting 600lbs due to his impressive retard strength. Lol imagine that dude being a salesman or making cold calls. Holy shit what a waste of life. He should thank God there is bodybuilding in the world we live in.
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so just reading through this thread and how this information has changed some people's opinions of him, it's obvious why he would choose not to be forthcoming with the truth.
i would think the exact opposite, if he is innocent and it was an accident why not say so?
why have that dirbag romano of all people who everyone knows is a pathological liar speak for you?
his silence is deafening on the matter
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BULLSHIT !
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fuck juan, i dont give a fuck if hes an 'affable' guy , he fucking harmed a child , wait NO A BABY. thats sickening, i couldnt even kill a dog.
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BULLSHIT !
Hey Juan!
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HEY MENG !
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HEY MENG !
Bye Juan!
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Bump. I see people are discussing this guys squat form without any regard for the fact that he killed his baby and then made up a story about piledriving an adult to cover that fact up.
But then again as long as he's 250 and ripped it doesn't matter, right? You guys are Schmoes to the end!
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Bump. I see people are discussing this guys squat form without any regard for the fact that he killed his baby and then made up a story about piledriving an adult to cover that fact up.
But then again as long as he's 250 and ripped it doesn't matter, right? You guys are Schmoes to the end!
exactly , if he was innocent, or it was really an accident, he woukld not have made a story up!
guilty people lie!
i would gladly shake the life out of this son of a bitch.
SBS.. Shaken Bodybuilder Syndrom!
I am extremely angry today!
some pervert that lives in our street showed his genitals to my daughter.... happened today, i kicked his ass... he is missing some teeth now. ran away the coward.....
and living in brasil, my neighbors were allready wanting to lynch the guy! lol!
i told them to take it easy..... I WILL handle him.... he is not done with me.
fucking gluesniffer! i'm gonna break both his legs.... really, he will be an example, nobody messes with kids! not my kid, not my neighbors kid.... no kids!!!!
i am not violent at all, but mess with my kid , and i am a psycho.... and since i know the police chief, and some judges.... i can do with him what i want...
bastard! really i am very very angry!!
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Bump. I see people are discussing this guys squat form without any regard for the fact that he killed his baby and then made up a story about piledriving an adult to cover that fact up.
But then again as long as he's 250 and ripped it doesn't matter, right? You guys are Schmoes to the end!
I haven't seen any schmoeing in regards to Juan.
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If the thong fit, you must acquit.
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I haven't seen any schmoeing in regards to Juan.
Please, don't be so stupid. People have forgotten about this and don't care, now they're just looking to look at his squat form and how it relate to how big his quads will be for the next show and how shredded his glutes will be. That's what a Schmoe does - only cares about muscle. That's what most of the people here are - Schmoes.
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Please, don't be so stupid. People have forgotten about this and don't care, now they're just looking to look at his squat form and how it relate to how big his quads will be for the next show and how shredded his glutes will be. That's what a Schmoe does - only cares about muscle. That's what most of the people here are - Schmoes.
Well everytime I see his name mentioned in a thread I think to myself how he killed his baby. I can't see him any other way. I was sure that many people are thinking the same thing. How can you not?
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Well everytime I see his name mentioned in a thread I think to myself how he killed his baby. I can't see him any other way. I was sure that many people are thinking the same thing. How can you not?
This and what you put in the other thread about the unfortunately married couple... spot on
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Hes a murderer and a fucking
Moron with the most annoying retarded voice ive ever heard. I hope hes an utter failure as a pro. If i saw him person i would call him out. Guys legit scum. Fuck him and his gay five toe shoes he always wears in his training vids
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Well everytime I see his name mentioned in a thread I think to myself how he killed his baby. I can't see him any other way. I was sure that many people are thinking the same thing. How can you not?
Well when I say Schmoeing I mean talking about his squat form with no concern for his past, I'm with you on that. But it seems nobody else is - look in the thread about Phil Heath and Morel and Delarossa and people are talking about his weak squat form, and not his strong infant killing skills. So I call that Schmoeing.
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Hes a murderer and a fucking
Moron with the most annoying retarded voice ive ever heard. I hope hes an utter failure as a pro. If i saw him person i would call him out. Guys legit scum. Fuck him and his gay five toe shoes he always wears in his training vids
It wouldn't be so bad if he came clean with it from the beginning. I think people would be willing to forgive him and move on, but to make up a story about piledriving someone??? And let everyone believe that?
None of this "none of your business, that's in the past" bullshit. If you're going to put yourself in the spotlight, wearing nothing but oil and a thong, you better be fucking ready to deal with your past.
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It wouldn't be so bad if he came clean with it from the beginning. I think people would be willing to forgive him and move on, but to make up a story about piledriving someone??? And let everyone believe that?
None of this "none of your business, that's in the past" bullshit. If you're going to put yourself in the spotlight, wearing nothing but oil and a thong, you better be fucking ready to deal with your past.
Lies always catch up with a person. You are right, if he didn't lie and make up a bullshit story about piledriving someone then we might just believe that he didn't mean to intentionally kill his child. But by covering it up, it really makes you look guilty and not remorseful.
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Well when I say Schmoeing I mean talking about his squat form with no concern for his past, I'm with you on that. But it seems nobody else is - look in the thread about Phil Heath and Morel and Delarossa and people are talking about his weak squat form, and not his strong infant killing skills. So I call that Schmoeing.
I haven't looked at the thread because since I found out that he killed his infant child, I have not been interested in anything that he is doing.
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Is this the 2nd person he's killed ?
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What a piece of shit
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Wow..
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Is this for real?
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Is this the 2nd person he's killed ?
i don't think a person can die twice.
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i don't think a person can die twice.
Zombies can!!!! :o :o :o
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I would love to hear what Gayer than bodybuilding thinks of the IFBB resident Papi Chulo and killing babies
Gayer..if you are out there....
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Did he really kill his child?
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So he shaken his son to death and was sentenced to 3 years in prison which he served,how he is able to be with his daughter which is from the same mother as the murdered son if he killed his own son?!
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Somebody should've shaken him to death. Fucking murdering asshole.
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Somebody should've shaken him to death. Fucking murdering asshole.
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son shaking of peace ::)
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Are you fucking serious? Why has this not gotten more play on getbig? If true, how fucking horrible.
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Are you fucking serious? Why has this not gotten more play on getbig? If true, how fucking horrible.
He was just shaking the kid because he wanted to get the prize out.
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New Rochelle father charged with assaulting his infant son
(09/12/03) WHITE PLAINS - A New Rochelle father is charged with assaulting his infant son, who later died.
Police say Juan Morel, 21, claimed his 5-month-old son fell on Wednesday and that's why he and the baby's mother took the boy to Sound Shore Medical Center in New Rochelle. The hospital then notified police and after detectives questioned Morel, they concluded that the baby had been shaken. The baby died on Thursday after being put on life support.
Neighbors who live at 234 Drake Avenue say they always heard the couple fighting and the baby crying. One woman said she feels guilty for not reporting the fighting sooner.
Morel is now charged with assault and is being held at the Westchester County Jail.
Meanwhile, police are waiting for an autopsy report to determine the exact cause of death. The baby's mother has not been charged. The couple also has a 3-year-old daughter who is now in child protective services.
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Are you fucking serious? Why has this not gotten more play on getbig? If true, how fucking horrible.
It had a good run 2 years back -
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=400637.0 .
Some posts were deleted though.
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It had a good run 2 years back -
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=400637.0 .
Some post were deleted though.
Wow, it totally passed me by. I wonder why he only got three years?
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Welcome to 2 yrs ago, CREALMADRID...
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Welcome to 2 yrs ago, CREALMADRID...
I missed it too. I'm flabbergasted. What scum. Any details?
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Wow, it totally passed me by. I wonder why he only got three years?
I remember that another thing that was posted where the guy's age, kid's mom's testimony, provable evidence, and his remorse at the time knock down the sentence.
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I missed it too. I'm flabbergasted. What scum. Any details?
i forgot, but apparently he married some smoking chick that either he had a domestic case, or he was in probation, and the judge married them...
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I remember that another thing that was posted where the guy's age, kid's mom's testimony, provable evidence, and his remorse at the time knock down the sentence.
Damn? Why delete that shit. It's the truth.
i forgot, but apparently he married some smoking chick that either he had a domestic case, or he was in probation, and the judge married them...
I saw that picture in a mag. They were married in an office or something.....real romantic like.
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Didn't he try to lie and say he went to jail for killing an adult? Slammed him and broke his neck or some shit?!?
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Seriously, the guy is scum. My wife's parents, foster children that are abused now that they're retired and their kids are grown. They had a baby a few years ago that the dad had shaken so bad he was blind and deaf. A fucking one year old. Seriously, that kid will never be right, so what he did should've been the same as murder, and only got six years in prison. My only hope is some brothas fucking tuned him up in the joint.
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Damn? Why delete that shit. It's the truth.
Because anything that paints bodybuilding in a bad light is deleted or moved to a dead forum on here. Same goes for when Rich Gaspari got a domestic violence case put against him a few months ago. Those threads were deleted almost instantly
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Seriously, the guy is scum. My wife's parents, foster children that are abused now that they're retired and their kids are grown. They had a baby a few years ago that the dad had shaken so bad he was blind and deaf. A fucking one year old. Seriously, that kid will never be right, so what he did should've been the same as murder, and only got six years in prison. My only hope is some brothas fucking tuned him up in the joint.
"The pretty face, men claiming that they did a bid men"
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Because anything that paints bodybuilding in a bad light is deleted or moved to a dead forum on here. Same goes for when Rich Gaspari got a domestic violence case put against him a few months ago. Those threads were deleted almost instantly
QFT
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Because anything that paints bodybuilding in a bad light is deleted or moved to a dead forum on here.
Don't you think it might be due to the fact that something may be libellous and the site owner just doesn't want the potential hassle?
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Don't you think it might be due to the fact that something may be libellous and the site owner just doesn't want the potential hassle?
Even though the things said are usually true and comes with proof?
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Don't you think it might be due to the fact that something may be libellous and the site owner just doesn't want the potential hassle?
if what is posted is what the person has been charged with, then it is not libelous in nature. It's like if it posted in the paper, online or otherwise---and then people comment on it.
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if what is posted is what the person has been charged with, then it is not libelous in nature. It's like if it posted in the paper, online or otherwise---and then people comment on it.
Or, as I learned from People v. Larry flynt, that a reasonable person had to be able to believe.
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Because anything that paints bodybuilding in a bad light is deleted or moved to a dead forum on here. Same goes for when Rich Gaspari got a domestic violence case put against him a few months ago. Those threads were deleted almost instantly
Kain green homerseks thread is still around
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Are you fucking serious? Why has this not gotten more play on getbig? If true, how fucking horrible.
No word of a lie, this is thread 5 or 6 on the matter.
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He is a fucking piece of shit and the fact he could do such a thing s horrendous. How the c unt can live with himself it defies belief.
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No word of a lie, this is thread 5 or 6 on the matter.
No excuse for doing something so heinous. He should still be in jail.
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No excuse for doing something so heinous. He should still be in jail.
oh ya, he is a pos, that is a given
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He should get death
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Fuck this coward, he's worst of the worse
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Why is this POS not in jail? Why??
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Wait. I'm new to this one but I think I vaguely remember a thread a few years back. So it is confirmed that the guy in the other eating copious amounts of food living the good life killed his baby?
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supposedly the mother posted on m u s c l e week
http://www.muscle week.com/board/index.php/topic,2631.0.html
John Romano made the following statement on Juan Morel and Dave Palumbo:
"OMG... Lets all agree on one thing: If you heard it on a message board by an anonymous board jockey chances are near 100% it's not true.
First, Juan Morel and Dave did not meet in prison. Dave was serving a federal beef in West Virginia. Juan did state time in NY.
Yes, he did. This is the REAL story, in spite of the bullshit story printed int he Daily News, and the unsubstantiated crap being flung on various message boards by self proclaimed experts who actually know nothing. Flex magazine is doing a feature on the incident, complete with testimony from the baby's mother, who was present when the child died.
Juan DID NOT shake his baby to death. As he stated last night, and corroborated by the baby's mother, Juan was playing with the infant when he accidentally hit her head on the crib rail. It was a freak accident that proved fatal.
So, why did Juan go to prison for three years for an accident? Well, it appears that the prosecutor wanted to make an example of him. New Rochell is comprised of predominantly upper class white neighborhoods. Juan is from a predominantly black/Hispanic neighborhood in the Bronx. Juan and his rowdy friends were not welcome in New Rochell where his GF lived. apparently the cops were called frequently to the apartment where she lived, Juan's friends had gotten into it several times with neighbors, and in general proved to be an unwelcome elemnt in the neighborhood. When cops and EMS responded to the 911 call They arrested Juan with glee.
I know Juan. He is not a cold blooded baby killer. While this is the first I've heard about the incident, I am from NY and can easily see how the situation could have unfolded the way Juan reports. I can only imagine the grief he dealt with while trying to defend himself. Today, Juan is a decidedly different person and this incident has no bearing on his current bodybuilding career whatsoever.
This is the story in a nutshell. Keep an eye out for the feature to appear in Flex magazine for more in depth details.
I am not going to squelch conversation on this topic so long as it doesn't get ugly. Please be respectful and keep in mind that accidents do happen and this tragedy will haunt Juan forever. Everyone please make sure you get your facts straight before posting.
Thank you"
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John Romano made the following statement on Juan Morel and Dave Palumbo:
"OMG... Lets all agree on one thing: If you heard it on a message board by an anonymous board jockey chances are near 100% it's not true.
First, Juan Morel and Dave did not meet in prison. Dave was serving a federal beef in West Virginia. Juan did state time in NY.
Yes, he did. This is the REAL story, in spite of the bullshit story printed int he Daily News, and the unsubstantiated crap being flung on various message boards by self proclaimed experts who actually know nothing. Flex magazine is doing a feature on the incident, complete with testimony from the baby's mother, who was present when the child died.
Juan DID NOT shake his baby to death. As he stated last night, and corroborated by the baby's mother, Juan was playing with the infant when he accidentally hit her head on the crib rail. It was a freak accident that proved fatal.
So, why did Juan go to prison for three years for an accident? Well, it appears that the prosecutor wanted to make an example of him. New Rochell is comprised of predominantly upper class white neighborhoods. Juan is from a predominantly black/Hispanic neighborhood in the Bronx. Juan and his rowdy friends were not welcome in New Rochell where his GF lived. apparently the cops were called frequently to the apartment where she lived, Juan's friends had gotten into it several times with neighbors, and in general proved to be an unwelcome elemnt in the neighborhood. When cops and EMS responded to the 911 call They arrested Juan with glee.
I know Juan. He is not a cold blooded baby killer. While this is the first I've heard about the incident, I am from NY and can easily see how the situation could have unfolded the way Juan reports. I can only imagine the grief he dealt with while trying to defend himself. Today, Juan is a decidedly different person and this incident has no bearing on his current bodybuilding career whatsoever.
This is the story in a nutshell. Keep an eye out for the feature to appear in Flex magazine for more in depth details.
I am not going to squelch conversation on this topic so long as it doesn't get ugly. Please be respectful and keep in mind that accidents do happen and this tragedy will haunt Juan forever. Everyone please make sure you get your facts straight before posting.
Thank you"
What should I believe?? You tell me.
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What should I believe?? You tell me.
I don't believe it either. I just posted what the guy wrote.
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SBS and being hit in the head are completely different.
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What should I believe?? You tell me.
When I'm in doubt and I search for the truth, John Romano is the first person I call.
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When I'm in doubt and I search for the truth, John Romano is the first person I call.
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Podunk crimes of Peace
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John Romano made the following statement on Juan Morel and Dave Palumbo:
"OMG... Lets all agree on one thing: If you heard it on a message board by an anonymous board jockey chances are near 100% it's not true.
First, Juan Morel and Dave did not meet in prison. Dave was serving a federal beef in West Virginia. Juan did state time in NY.
Yes, he did. This is the REAL story, in spite of the bullshit story printed int he Daily News, and the unsubstantiated crap being flung on various message boards by self proclaimed experts who actually know nothing. Flex magazine is doing a feature on the incident, complete with testimony from the baby's mother, who was present when the child died.
Juan DID NOT shake his baby to death. As he stated last night, and corroborated by the baby's mother, Juan was playing with the infant when he accidentally hit her head on the crib rail. It was a freak accident that proved fatal.
So, why did Juan go to prison for three years for an accident? Well, it appears that the prosecutor wanted to make an example of him. New Rochell is comprised of predominantly upper class white neighborhoods. Juan is from a predominantly black/Hispanic neighborhood in the Bronx. Juan and his rowdy friends were not welcome in New Rochell where his GF lived. apparently the cops were called frequently to the apartment where she lived, Juan's friends had gotten into it several times with neighbors, and in general proved to be an unwelcome elemnt in the neighborhood. When cops and EMS responded to the 911 call They arrested Juan with glee.
I know Juan. He is not a cold blooded baby killer. While this is the first I've heard about the incident, I am from NY and can easily see how the situation could have unfolded the way Juan reports. I can only imagine the grief he dealt with while trying to defend himself. Today, Juan is a decidedly different person and this incident has no bearing on his current bodybuilding career whatsoever.
This is the story in a nutshell. Keep an eye out for the feature to appear in Flex magazine for more in depth details.
I am not going to squelch conversation on this topic so long as it doesn't get ugly. Please be respectful and keep in mind that accidents do happen and this tragedy will haunt Juan forever. Everyone please make sure you get your facts straight before posting.
Thank you"
If he did nothing wrong in the first place and was just made an example of then why would he now need to be a "decidedly different person"?
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If he did nothing wrong in the first place and was just made an example of then why would he now need to be a "decidedly different person"?
THAT is exactly what I thought when I read it.
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If he did nothing wrong in the first place and was just made an example of then why would he now need to be a "decidedly different person"?
Great post.
John Romano is seriously one stupid moron to play the race-card for Juan here. I love the part about the police frequently being called on Juan, rofl. Yeah, for no reason at all right?
Holy f*ck, I never took Romano as being a libtard, but there you have it.
As for New York City, Jared Taylor of Amren.com did an analysis on homicides in NYC, and found that 97% of all murders in NYC are caused by Blacks and Hispanics. Not to mention rapes, muggings, car jacking, etc. Plus 97% of lies about being car-jacked by ninjas are perpetrated by Blacks. ;D
So it turns out there is a reason why people - and by and large, mostly OTHER BLACK PEOPLE AND OTHER HISPANICS - call the police so often on Blacks and Hispanics.
And Juan could pass for Mediterranean, making Romano's story reek even more of BS.
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Bump. So FLEX magazine is going to report this?
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Great post.
John Romano is seriously one stupid moron to play the race-card for Juan here. I love the part about the police frequently being called on Juan, rofl. Yeah, for no reason at all right?
Holy f*ck, I never took Romano as being a libtard, but there you have it.
And Juan could pass for Mediterranean, making Romano's story reek even more of BS.
New Rochelle is a very mixed area, even at the time this happened it was about 20% Latin, 20% Black, 5% Asia and American Indian, with the balance being White. It's even more of a mixed area now. Romano is hanging on to 80's and early 90's, when it was a very Italian area.
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If he did nothing wrong in the first place and was just made an example of then why would he now need to be a "decidedly different person"?
True, Romanos defense of morel here has done him more damage than good here. Shows him up to be a guy whom police have to call regularly to his gfs apartment to deal with his activities.
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So what kind of time did he do ?
Was he locked up in a rape camp max security with violent offenders - did he plea or did he go to trial ?
I'm guessing it was state time so he maybe could of been in a lower security prison ?
Seems like a hard thing to have to explain being locked up in max which prob wasn't the case
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So what kind of time did he do ?
Was he locked up in a rape camp max security with violent offenders - did he plea or did he go to trial ?
I'm guessing it was state time so he maybe could of been in a lower security prison ?
Seems like a hard thing to have to explain being locked up in max which prob wasn't the case
He pled down to 2nd degree manslaughter (2 - 6 years), and did a bit more than 3 of them at a medium security prison.
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why do ppl keep bumping these old threads
I doubt very much this was intentional FFS. If it was being a spic they would have found a reason and he would have served life.
Personally I think this was a terrible accident and he has to wake up with it every day of his life, no matter what anyone thinks
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Why is this POS not in jail? Why??
He did time, he's out. He was convicted by a court of causing the death of his child. He has however served the detention sentence imposed on him. That shouldn't stop every one of us trolling all his social media with evidence of his crime l
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http://westchester.news12.com/story/34907907/new-rochelle-father-charged-with-assaulting-his-infant-son
Juan Morel = Baby Killer. Shook his baby to death.
New Rochelle father charged with assaulting his infant son.
A New Rochelle father is charged with assaulting his infant son, who later died.
Police say Juan Morel, 21, claimed his 5-month-old son fell on Wednesday and that's why he and the baby's mother took the boy to Sound Shore Medical Center in New Rochelle. The hospital then notified police and after detectives questioned Morel, they concluded that the baby had been shaken. The baby died on Thursday after being put on life support.
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http://westchester.news12.com/story/34907907/new-rochelle-father-charged-with-assaulting-his-infant-son
Juan Morel = Baby Killer. Shook his baby to death.
New Rochelle father charged with assaulting his infant son.
A New Rochelle father is charged with assaulting his infant son, who later died.
Police say Juan Morel, 21, claimed his 5-month-old son fell on Wednesday and that's why he and the baby's mother took the boy to Sound Shore Medical Center in New Rochelle. The hospital then notified police and after detectives questioned Morel, they concluded that the baby had been shaken. The baby died on Thursday after being put on life support.
The police report is posted somewhere. It’s pretty brutal. No accident. The baby wouldn’t stop crying so Juan made him stop. The IFBB can be very forgiving to guys not named Shawn Rhoden.
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The police report is posted somewhere. It’s pretty brutal. No accident. The baby wouldn’t stop crying so Juan made him stop. The IFBB can be very forgiving to guys not named Shawn Rhoden.
Disgusting. Dude should be in jail for life.
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http://westchester.news12.com/story/34907907/new-rochelle-father-charged-with-assaulting-his-infant-son
Juan Morel = Baby Killer. Shook his baby to death.
New Rochelle father charged with assaulting his infant son.
A New Rochelle father is charged with assaulting his infant son, who later died.
Police say Juan Morel, 21, claimed his 5-month-old son fell on Wednesday and that's why he and the baby's mother took the boy to Sound Shore Medical Center in New Rochelle. The hospital then notified police and after detectives questioned Morel, they concluded that the baby had been shaken. The baby died on Thursday after being put on life support.
Juan thought that he could lie his way out of it.
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The police report is posted somewhere. It’s pretty brutal. No accident. The baby wouldn’t stop crying so Juan made him stop. The IFBB can be very forgiving to guys not named Shawn Rhoden.
its almost impossible to find any reference to the case now on Google, he must have paid to have it removed..
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its almost impossible to find any reference to the case now on Google, he must have paid to have it removed..
I found the same link pretty fast
http://westchester.news12.com/story/34907907/new-rochelle-father-charged-with-assaulting-his-infant-son
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https://docplayer.net/37193367-Anabolic-freak-of-the-month-name-juan-morel-age-26-height-5-11-weight-offseason-260lbs-pre-contest-215lbs-contest-highlights.html
I cant beleive the spin they put on it here
However, everything changed when Juan turned 19. His beautiful daughter was born and his life turned around. He left the streets and went to live with his parents and his daughter’s mother in the Bronx, NY. However, by age 21, misfortune struck while Juan and his best friend were play-wrestling on the floor of his house. Juan accidentally broke his friend’s neck and it, ultimately, resulted in the boy’s death. If the guilt of what happened wasn’t bad enough, Juan wound up serving 4 long years in prison for his unfortunate mistake.
his "unfortunate mistake" that got him in jail was beating his child to death, breaking his friends neck was another incident altogether..
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What 21 year old plays fucking wrestling on the living room rug of his parents house for fucks sake
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What 21 year old plays fucking wrestling on the living room rug of his parents house for fucks sake
Looks like he has a history of killing people and trying to cover his tracks with lies
Dave Palumbo: you should cover this topic on one of your rants.
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On the New York state inmate lookup, he's inmate #04A1861 , and it's listed as just a 2nd degree manslaughter. So, that story made good sense as a cover till you realize it's 2 seconds of Googling till you get the real story. The racism story Romano tried later is even more vomit inducing.
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I found the same link pretty fast
http://westchester.news12.com/story/34907907/new-rochelle-father-charged-with-assaulting-his-infant-son
try and find evidence of the trial and him going to jail...
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try and find evidence of the trial and him going to jail...
That info I did not find.
I think that you’d have to pay one of those sites that shows public records (convictions, judgements, addresses) to get that information.
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That info I did not find.
I think that you’d have to pay one of those sites that shows public records (convictions, judgements, addresses) to get that information.
Exactly, because its all been removed from Google, you can find many court records and transcripts free online, Im sure teh news channel who reported about his arrest would have foillowed up with his conviction, and I have read it online in the past.
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Disgusting. Dude should be in jail for life.
Coach would vouch for Juan that he is a great guy
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try and find evidence of the trial and him going to jail...
There was no trial. He pleaded guilty.
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What 21 year old plays fucking wrestling on the living room rug of his parents house for fucks sake
The same ones who take boat-loads of drugs and prance around in a thong.
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I remember reading he was hopped up on different psychiatric meds, working out at home and had the movie Halloween playing. In the summer.
Interesting combination, right?
The old site Spec. Ed and I ran was the first to break that story.
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There was no trial. He pleaded guilty.
there will still be a court transcript and reporting rights...
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Professional bodybuilding apparently attracts some really bad people. I wonder why that it is. On the other hand, you have guys like Jay Cutler, who has probably never gotten so much as a speeding ticket.
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Professional bodybuilding apparently attracts some really bad people. I wonder why that it is. On the other hand, you have guys like Jay Cutler, who has probably never gotten so much as a speeding ticket.
It seems to attract former addicts of other drugs and substances
The irony to this is I know a handful of guys who were alcoholics and meth addicts, they all got involved with bbing in their 30’s, one in his 40’s, and the other 50’s and went straight on gear
Replacing one addiction with another
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"I want my baby back, baby back, baby back, I want my baby back, baby back, baby back"...
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It seems to attract former addicts of other drugs and substances
The irony to this is I know a handful of guys who were alcoholics and meth addicts, they all got involved with bbing in their 30’s, one in his 40’s, and the other 50’s and went straight on gear
Replacing one addiction with another
gh15 spoke about this multiple times
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gh15 spoke about this multiple times
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