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From GH15
10 facts about gear. (excluding gh/slin)
1.gear is NOT magic.
2.gear will work on ANY ONE
3.gear will work better on the bodybuilder who train smarter while on it.
4.being on gear does NOT mean you can go crazy on the weights
5.gear will only recover you better, help you get the calories you need for growth by keeping you hungry, and direct those calories to the right "place"; gear will not build your muscle by itself! YOU build your muscles by training them and gear make the process 2times faster due to faster recovery and complete 100% recovery and growth between training sessions of the body part trained.
6.gear must be legit to work! i would not touch anything beside american or europian pharm products. mexico is dirty but is ok but it out of luck now days.
7.being on gear DOES NOT mean you can train 7 days a week 2 hours each session.
8. the most progress on gear will be made by the bodybuilder who sticks to the same routine he does when he was natural,, only try to increase weight poundage by as much as possible as long as FORM IS ON SPOT!
9.any bodybuilder can grow from any type of gear. you dont have to take test in addition to deca and you dont have to take something else with dianabol for growth. this is common mistake of most local gym rats that they never learn from.
10. your main mission is to chose the drug you want,, take it,, and concentrate more on the dose of the drug taken and on the form and training session insted of doing stupid combos of stuff and wait for miricales. the more advanced you will become the more stuff you will combine for a better effect. test is not a MUST! it is good for aggressiveness and sex drive but many MANY GUYS do not need it and it only gives them sides.
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good one never read that
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Very well written - even using a semicolon back in the old days before he went unintelligible.
Strange, he used to talk pretty much only about dbol and GH in his early GB days. Now he's on the tren bandwagon.
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gear builds muscle by itself. That's a fact.
Sure you get more muscle if you train.
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That's because that ain't the same guy as some of the other posts
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gear builds muscle by itself. That's a fact.
Sure you get more muscle if you train.
True, but don't expect a guy shooting 1g of test per week sitting home and playing playstation to look like a bb.
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Very well written - even using a semicolon back in the old days before he went unintelligible.
Strange, he used to talk pretty much only about dbol and GH in his early GB days. Now he's on the tren bandwagon.
that was when i have dictionary next to me lol what can i say you made me lose my mind here,, i became autistic ;)
gh15 approved
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that was when i have dictionary next to me lol what can i say you made me lose my mind here,, i became autistic ;)
gh15 approved
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example of angel help just for you friend,, take notes,, this is specific exampel when angel interfer ,, just to show you it has nothign to do if you have lot of money or poor as dirt,,
angels will tend to help as i said to the fellas who their living soul is very down ,, fellas that just cant do it they dont hav eit ,, a fella like okami wil most likley wont get angel help ,, whys that? because he is extremly strong soul fella,, what i mean by that,, at age 29 he already been throuhg what 50 year old fellas havent,, see what i mean ,, his living soul is strong he cant beat down ,,his soul is at 100% living strength
angels only help if the soul is very low under the 20% level,, how is a soul get to 20% level or under? it happen slowly take years,,
here is examples of how angels interfer,,
1, when flesh being is jobless and cant find a job ...not because he is lazy or dont want to make money but because he has something mentaly that stop him to interact with society,, fellas like that get angel help ,, when it something that the living flash has no control on ,,chemical in the brain ,, when they are afrsaid of their own shadow and afriad to function ....this is when angel will interfer,,it wont be when living flesh expect ...may take years but angel will interfer
another example
when living soul is older and never found a woman ,,and all of the livign soul around him found their women and hav ekids and familis,,and the living soul is trying but living soul only meet grabage and trash that cheat on him and use him or her for their kindness,,an angel will interfer in this type of case,, again it will be not when expected because those living soul dont expect a thing their living soul is down below 20%,,angel will act on its own time
many other examples but this is 2 of them
gh15 approved
This post made me a big time believer in gh15. That post pretty described me like about how angels interfere. The man is very much in tuned with his spiritual side.
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This post made me a big time believer in gh15. That post pretty described me like about how angels interfere. The man is very much in tuned with his spiritual side.
x2, 100% spot on.
The pyramids were built by aliens posts were great as well.
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Our fallen angel has shown his maturity by his wealth of empirical data... many times over.
As I have also stated many times before: There is no way a kid can know these things about life. The things he says about the jobless or the lonely are true, and he cannot know these things unless 1) he has lived it, or 2) he has great observational and problem-solving skills... and a heart, compassion. Something missing in many folks.
I have a feeling that Gh has been through some very tough times, and has learned to overcome. He immediately identifies those who are weak and those who have "Sisu" (look it up, it's "Finnish")
I don't really care about gear when it comes to my life and my consciousness, but yet gear plays much of a deciding factor... strange irony.
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x2, 100% spot on.
The pyramids were built by aliens posts were great as well.
What....plz show me
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yes the way he talks about it he must have lived it. But that should be no surprise, the man's personality is very isolating, he is very removed and arrogant, he doesn't relate easily with people. Social interaction to him now comes easy because he is a person of status and people want to please him, but this wasn't true in the past. When you look at nasser posing, I've only seen one video of him, and he's very differnet on the stage than the others. The others have a sort of connection with the audience, but when nasser does the double bi and looks out, his eyes are darting back and forth, and he looks like a deer in the head lights. I understand this very well, I have that too a bit, it's because power hunger is isolating. I've always been the one to befriend the lonely guy, the freak, always been standing up for people who have themselves betrayed me in ways, people who never stand up for me, but that has always been the case and I've accepted that as my role without even knowing it to be honest, it even happened with my own father where I stood up for him in front of his own friends even though in my heart I know he has no loyalty towards me, anyways the reason I like this board and gh15 is because I relate to him so much, I understand the feeling of only liking people who show submission, who need you in a way and look up to you. Those are the only people I accept, as friendly and outgoing as I may seem sometime, I'm only interested in the dog with 3 legs lol
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Regarding the people that doubt gh15, I often wonder if they had an accident in the gym and ended up as stupid as Howard or something.
They come on here and talk out of their ass for days when the bible has already been written for them. How could anyone dispute it!? Look at the twinky Persian's thread with all of the Getbiggers who are brave enough to post pictures. Everyone at the top are gh15 believers!!!
All the heathens are too afraid to post pictures. And sometimes they do post pictures and look like PURE SHIT!!!! Anyone who knows bodybuilding outside of what they read in the magazines will know that he is FUCKING SPOT ON. Every. Single. Post... is pure fucking gold. He plays around and has fun, but at the end of the day he is giving the same advice that "gurus" charge thousands for. If you know anything about bodybuilding, you'll know that gh15 is the God of fucking hormones!!!!
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x2, 100% spot on.
The pyramids were built by aliens posts were great as well.
omg then u never knew anything about gear then before GH15?
he's writing nothing original, nothing new, nothing revolutionary...
this numbered points list is the same thing ANYONE who knows the basics of AAS's already now..most should know it before even trying their first cycle.
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omg then u never knew anything about gear then before GH15?
he's writing nothing original, nothing new, nothing revolutionary...
this numbered points list is the same thing ANYONE who knows the basics of AAS's already now..most should know it before even trying their first cycle.
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Post a pic, "stu"d.
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Post a pic, "stu"d.
That is always the "deal-breaker" Ha ha.
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"6.gear must be legit to work! i would not touch anything beside american or europian pharm products."...Read this over and over again !!!
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WHAT HE SAYS IS TRUE.
ALSO THE BEST LINE OF GH15:
GRASS FED CREATINE THAT PENETRATES YOUR EARS WHEN YOU SLEEP AT NITE
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True, but don't expect a guy shooting 1g of test per week sitting home and playing playstation to look like a bb.
Are you saying Cormier took more??? :D
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they use so much gh that thing you wont her from danta and sons ,, because he is somewhere fuckin shelby up his ass with the right stuff while in reality to you he sell sepcial ultra grass protien made of the best horse poop nutrition ,,
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"6.gear must be legit to work! i would not touch anything beside american or europian pharm products."...Read this over and over again !!!
well, that was before he admitted tren ace being the nectar of gods...and some chinese gh being equivalent with pharm grade etc...but yes, in other cases going pharm grade is probably your safest bet
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he called hormones "gear" back then :P
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This post made me a big time believer in gh15. That post pretty described me like about how angels interfere. The man is very much in tuned with his spiritual side.
Agree - pretty shocking to read the unwritten truth. Hats off to GH15.
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His best slang?
Titonas
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Are you saying Cormier took more??? :D
Well sure he took more, but i guess he still trained, and i don't mean Gran Tourismo, after all Cormier was a great BB, sadly very underrated.
(http://www.bodybuilding365.net/wp-content/gallery/cormier/chris%20cormier.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuilder.ro/gallery/thebest/Chris%20Cormier%2003.jpg)
(http://musclechamps.com/ChrisCormier/cormie20.jpg)
(http://foro.eliteculturismo.com/attachments/culturistas/4265d1294251455-chris-cormier-chris-cormierf.jpg)
(http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp212/kocram/chris/chris_cormier.jpg)
(http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1403&stc=1)
(http://www.solid-gains.com/gallery/albums/chris-cormier/Chris-Cormier-11_sized.jpg)
(http://www.bsa-shop.fr/media/873170-1136498170054-cormier-chris-668-1.jpg)
(http://myweightliftingprograms.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Chris_Cormier_30.jpg)
(http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/775/cormier10041wy.jpg)
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omg then u never knew anything about gear then before GH15?
he's writing nothing original, nothing new, nothing revolutionary...
this numbered points list is the same thing ANYONE who knows the basics of AAS's already now..most should know it before even trying their first cycle.
True. It's nothing new or revolutionary and anyone looking to start steroids should already know this. Alot of people on this board are just starting roids because of GH15's posts, so he's the only person they turn to for advice. At least in this post he's giving some great advice. There are people on this board who believe in aliens because GH15 said so but I guess that's not exactly harming anyone. There are a few seemingly knowledgable people here that are worth listening to. He made a good post here.
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so fuckin true. gh15 has said NOTHING original or revolutionary . he has only ever parroted what is said on hardcore steroid boards. he isn't even cutting edge; other boards were pimping trenbolona long before him.
i actually cringe at the sheep and followers that in turn parrot him and tread him like a genuis simply cuz he says what everyone knowledgable already knows about roids and claims to be IFBB. dude is on this forum all day and night. answers posts within minutes because he lives for his on line creation.
the truth is not as glamorous as people would wish. pull back the curtain and there is no wizard, literally! ;)
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so fuckin true. gh15 has said NOTHING original or revolutionary . he has only ever parroted what is said on hardcore steroid boards. he isn't even cutting edge; other boards were pimping trenbolona long before him.
i actually cringe at the sheep and followers that in turn parrot him and tread him like a genuis simply cuz he says what everyone knowledgable already knows about roids and claims to be IFBB. dude is on this forum all day and night. answers posts within minutes because he lives for his on line creation.
the truth is not as glamorous as people would wish. pull back the curtain and there is no wizard, literally! ;)
Don't you think you are taking this a bit too serious?
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Don't you think you are taking this a bit too serious?
No, not really bro. No more serious than you when you worship him and quote his post and make threads about him when he does no say anything we didn't already know.
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Gh has gained a lot of popularity and a lot of people are behaving like sheep as someone has said. Once he says a certain brand is good, sales for that product sky rocket. I always wonder if GH is owner/part owner or at least sponsored by a true "supplement company". Though I must say that he does seem like an honest person and makes it appear like he is there to help through the way he writes.
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GH15 has grown on me. He's pretty funny but yeah, he isnt telling me much I didnt already know. Pros take lots of shit. Obviously there's more to it than that and I would never say I know all he knows. His thread on music was pretty funny, saying Adele (or whatever her name is) was gonna be the new Madonna HAHA! Madonna is shit, I dont give a fuck how many records she sold. Generation nothingness (did I get that right?) music started with Modonna. It's really the newbs that blow him that annoy me. When someone addresses him as "God" it makes me sick. Some faceless internet guy is your "god"? Holy shit are you a loser.
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No, not really bro. No more serious than you when you worship him and quote his post and make threads about him when he does no say anything we didn't already know.
Maybe i'm only having a bit of fun?
Do you really think i "worship" him?? LOL
Getbig is dead for the biggest part, nothing like it was from 2006 to 2008, the best part of this page is gh15 now.
Would be a shame if that was gone too.
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Maybe i'm only having a bit of fun?
Do you really think i "worship" him?? LOL
Getbig is dead for the biggest part, nothing like it was from 2006 to 2008, the best part of this page is gh15 now.
Would be a shame if that was gone too.
Crazy ownings daily!! If you didnt have your A-game the sharks ate you up. Imagine a poster like Purenaturalstrength or Khofo posting back then? Gimme a break! The Squad was epic
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so fuckin true. gh15 has said NOTHING original or revolutionary . he has only ever parroted what is said on hardcore steroid boards. he isn't even cutting edge; other boards were pimping trenbolona long before him.
i actually cringe at the sheep and followers that in turn parrot him and tread him like a genuis simply cuz he says what everyone knowledgable already knows about roids and claims to be IFBB. dude is on this forum all day and night. answers posts within minutes because he lives for his on line creation.
the truth is not as glamorous as people would wish. pull back the curtain and there is no wizard, literally! ;)
aside from the many pms you had to gh15 along the years that make you hypoocrat and you know you are,, since i know who you are,, you dont knwo who i am but i do know who YOU are,, aside from this....let me explain something to you ,,
gh15 era which is a long era in bodybuild history ,, is the robinhood era ,,this is how it will be known ,, it is not the actual information i put on that will make me the most memorable fella in bodybuild history ,, it is WHAT I DID ,, FOR WHO I DID IT ,, AND FOR WHAT IN RETURN,, i made no profit remember that,, i can make LOTS OF MONEY OUT OF GH15 and chose not to! it was a choice i took when i agreed to do gh15,, so...aside from fact that i did explain information that was not known i explain the alpha beta of drug intake to many bodybuild ,, i diid a slang gh15 explanation for the simple fella of why you need this and that,, i actualy explained what to elminate inorder to not end up as gym rat,, all this you wont find on steroid boarding,, aside from this....i actualy brought the SOURCE LEVEL UP,, now day sources know if they dotn perform they hav to deal with me,, and its not one boaridng,, it is alll along the field ,, in many many places not only aas,, it is including research products,, it even include over the counter balonie,, this is my abolit most important impact,, i was able to help HELP many up and comin bodybuild by nevigate them into the right way of thinking and with this bring up the sourcing level ,,
what i did is MACRO not MICRO,, i also did micro but at the end of the day when im gone ,, the macro i did wil stay,, i put a bible that you can read and you do read it ,, if you look into it the reverlation inside it are huge,, it will take years for you to actualy understand how much time saving i did for fellas,, i made fellas like you go nuts because with the years you understood that you cant ignore the gh15 movment,, it was resistable back in 2005 2006 but since 2008 it is very very strong it got to a point when you discovered that you actualy need to bring yout game up otherwize you wil end up in the local river,, and this is why those kidos and they are all kidos for me,, but this is why those pupils love me so much,, because until gh15 they had no one to cry to ,, they were crying to themsleves ,, they didnt even cry ,, they just said fuck my life and took loses,, they were easy to manipulate and easy to sell balonie to,, after gh15 they became very wize,, they graduated the god of hormone univeristy ,, each and every one of them can analyzse a bodybuild to some deghree and give oyu the right observation and you can test all my pupils they will in most cases be right on,,
i never discovered anyting huge,, I MADE EVERYTHING HUGE SEEM CLEARER AND ACTUALY BROKE IT DOWN TO SHOW HOW SIMPLE IT WAS
gh15 contribution is huge ,, it is not huge it is beyond huge,, forget about a all language i created with vocabulary ,, forget about the stupid humor i put into this ,, im talking about the actual bodybuild information ,, the actual transfering of a low level bodybuild to an advance one and then top amatuer and profesional,, i made them understand what how and why! ,, this you dont get on no steroid boarindg,,
im at peace with gh15,, i can asssure you gh15 is going into hall of fame of bodybuild,, garenteed
gh15 approved
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Maybe i'm only having a bit of fun?
Do you really think i "worship" him?? LOL
Getbig is dead for the biggest part, nothing like it was from 2006 to 2008, the best part of this page is gh15 now.
Would be a shame if that was gone too.
Deltsaforce is one of FatAlex23's many gimmicks.
He gets very jealous when anyone gets more attention than him.
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aside from the many pms you had to gh15 along the years that make you hypoocrat and you know you are,, since i know who you are,, you dont knwo who i am but i do know who YOU are,, aside from this....let me explain something to you ,,
gh15 era which is a long era in bodybuild history ,, is the robinhood era ,,this is how it will be known ,, it is not the actual information i put on that will make me the most memorable fella in bodybuild history ,, it is WHAT I DID ,, FOR WHO I DID IT ,, AND FOR WHAT IN RETURN,, i made no profit remember that,, i can make LOTS OF MONEY OUT OF GH15 and chose not to! it was a choice i took when i agreed to do gh15,, so...aside from fact that i did explain information that was not known i explain the alpha beta of drug intake to many bodybuild ,, i diid a slang gh15 explanation for the simple fella of why you need this and that,, i actualy explained what to elminate inorder to not end up as gym rat,, all this you wont find on steroid boarding,, aside from this....i actualy brought the SOURCE LEVEL UP,, now day sources know if they dotn perform they hav to deal with me,, and its not one boaridng,, it is alll along the field ,, in many many places not only aas,, it is including research products,, it even include over the counter balonie,, this is my abolit most important impact,, i was able to help HELP many up and comin bodybuild by nevigate them into the right way of thinking and with this bring up the sourcing level ,,
what i did is MACRO not MICRO,, i also did micro but at the end of the day when im gone ,, the macro i did wil stay,, i put a bible that you can read and you do read it ,, if you look into it the reverlation inside it are huge,, it will take years for you to actualy understand how much time saving i did for fellas,, i made fellas like you go nuts because with the years you understood that you cant ignore the gh15 movment,, it was resistable back in 2005 2006 but since 2008 it is very very strong it got to a point when you discovered that you actualy need to bring yout game up otherwize you wil end up in the local river,, and this is why those kidos and they are all kidos for me,, but this is why those pupils love me so much,, because until gh15 they had no one to cry to ,, they were crying to themsleves ,, they didnt even cry ,, they just said fuck my life and took loses,, they were easy to manipulate and easy to sell balonie to,, after gh15 they became very wize,, they graduated the god of hormone univeristy ,, each and every one of them can analyzse a bodybuild to some deghree and give oyu the right observation and you can test all my pupils they will in most cases be right on,,
i never discovered anyting huge,, I MADE EVERYTHING HUGE SEEM CLEARER AND ACTUALY BROKE IT DOWN TO SHOW HOW SIMPLE IT WAS
gh15 contribution is huge ,, it is not huge it is beyond huge,, forget about a all language i created with vocabulary ,, forget about the stupid humor i put into this ,, im talking about the actual bodybuild information ,, the actual transfering of a low level bodybuild to an advance one and then top amatuer and profesional,, i made them understand what how and why! ,, this you dont get on no steroid boarindg,,
im at peace with gh15,, i can asssure you gh15 is going into hall of fame of bodybuild,, garenteed
gh15 approved
Spot on, great post.
Fuck the haters.
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Deltsaforce is one of FatAlex23's many gimmicks.
He gets very jealous when anyone gets more attention than him.
That's the main problem with getbig nowadays, 70 percent of all new accounts are Fatalex or "tallgerman".
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No, not really bro. No more serious than you when you worship him and quote his post and make threads about him when he does no say anything we didn't already know.
Perhaps a lot of us do not have all the answers to everything about hormones like you and gh15 do?
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cormiers hips are too wide. torso too long vertically. doesnt look as good as colemans
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=400633.0;attach=439216;image)
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^^ who is that midget woman to colemans left ???
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so fuckin true. gh15 has said NOTHING original or revolutionary . he has only ever parroted what is said on hardcore steroid boards. he isn't even cutting edge; other boards were pimping trenbolona long before him.
your so full of shit.
everyone who knows what they are talking about recognises gh says shit that has never been talked about 'on other boards'
because your a fat, dumpy useless fuck who doesnt have clue about how to build a body without the aid of cheeseburgers makes your opinion invalid and stupid.
nice work, idiot.
now, fatalex, please crawl back into thr whole you came out of, you blank shooting prostitute wrestler.
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gh15 contribution is huge ,, it is not huge it is beyond huge,, forget about a all language i created with vocabulary ,, forget about the stupid humor i put into this ,, im talking about the actual bodybuild information ,, the actual transfering of a low level bodybuild to an advance one and then top amatuer and profesional,, i made them understand what how and why! ,, this you dont get on no steroid boarindg,,
gh15 approved
recognise.
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Deltsaforce is one of FatAlex23's many gimmicks.
He gets very jealous when anyone gets more attention than him.
The thing is Alex doesn't even even believe what he posts in this thread. All of his posts are aimed at creating drama, nothing else.
He is coming from a new angle every few weeks, sometimes even arguing with himself with his gimmicks in the same thread. Not long ago he was posting how Nasser was gh15. Next week gh15 knows nothing and isn't a pro. It's all worthless bullshit, from a completely worthless poster.
That said, I'm exited to see how Alex will look at the Excalibur in a few short weeks. What will the man with "pro size naturally" look like? It will be a sight to see.
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of all time
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The thing is Alex doesn't even even believe what he posts in this thread. All of his posts are aimed at creating drama, nothing else.
He is coming from a new angle every few weeks, sometimes even arguing with himself with his gimmicks in the same thread. Not long ago he was posting how Nasser was gh15. Next week gh15 knows nothing and isn't a pro. It's all worthless bullshit, from a completely worthless poster.
That said, I'm exited to see how Alex will look at the Excalibur in a few short weeks. What will the man with "pro size naturally" look like? It will be a sight to see.
it debunks MASSIVELY the whole "nasser is gh15" theory. the two of them joined forces with those stupid youtube videos and had everyone fooled.
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The thing is Alex doesn't even even believe what he posts in this thread. All of his posts are aimed at creating drama, nothing else.
He is coming from a new angle every few weeks, sometimes even arguing with himself with his gimmicks in the same thread. Not long ago he was posting how Nasser was gh15. Next week gh15 knows nothing and isn't a pro. It's all worthless bullshit, from a completely worthless poster.
That said, I'm exited to see how Alex will look at the Excalibur in a few short weeks. What will the man with "pro size naturally" look like? It will be a sight to see.
Save your excitement, he will look like shit, thats if he shows up, which he wont since he is an impotent micro penis estrogen filled pussy ::)
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The Wizard... and the curtain. That's a hilarious analogy, you have to admit.
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Save your excitement, he will look like shit, thats if he shows up, which he wont since he is an impotent micro penis estrogen filled pussy ::)
lol hes fat as shit. Hasnt "preped" not even a single day. :D
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so fuckin true. gh15 has said NOTHING original or revolutionary . he has only ever parroted what is said on hardcore steroid boards. he isn't even cutting edge; other boards were pimping trenbolona long before him.
i actually cringe at the sheep and followers that in turn parrot him and tread him like a genuis simply cuz he says what everyone knowledgable already knows about roids and claims to be IFBB. dude is on this forum all day and night. answers posts within minutes because he lives for his on line creation.
the truth is not as glamorous as people would wish. pull back the curtain and there is no wizard, literally! ;)
I am fairly sure gh15 was a competing ifbb pro up to 2006-2007 and since then retired.
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Regarding the people that doubt gh15, I often wonder if they had an accident in the gym and ended up as stupid as Howard or something.
They come on here and talk out of their ass for days when the bible has already been written for them. How could anyone dispute it!? Look at the twinky Persian's thread with all of the Getbiggers who are brave enough to post pictures. Everyone at the top are gh15 believers!!!
All the heathens are too afraid to post pictures. And sometimes they do post pictures and look like PURE SHIT!!!! Anyone who knows bodybuilding outside of what they read in the magazines will know that he is FUCKING SPOT ON. Every. Single. Post... is pure fucking gold. He plays around and has fun, but at the end of the day he is giving the same advice that "gurus" charge thousands for. If you know anything about bodybuilding, you'll know that gh15 is the God of fucking hormones!!!!
couldnt agree more. Been going through all his work and he is spot on and I can relate to all that is said as a bodybuilder. Most other gurus hide behind doors, in it for the $. And the moderators running boards are after bucks also bashing anothers products because the others fucking labels dont look as nice as "their" brand. Last time I checked its whats in the bottle that counts. Then you hear all the newbies talk about how nice the labels look and they got their product in 3 days. WOOOP DEE FUCKING DOO, i fell for it a few times, and on many occasions, the products sucked. Im sick of listening to the lies from everyone in the industry. g15 speaks the truth.
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omg then u never knew anything about gear then before GH15?
he's writing nothing original, nothing new, nothing revolutionary...
this numbered points list is the same thing ANYONE who knows the basics of AAS's already now..most should know it before even trying their first cycle.
are you mental? There are no others that point dedicated bodybuilders in the right direction like gh15. If we sat here and took advice from Dusty Hanshaw to run 700mg of test and dbol we'd all be in the same sticking point
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Scambag
One of gh15's best lines ever! ;D
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Scambag
One of gh15's best lines ever! ;D
lol..
how come he can come up with the funniest shit all the damn time
TITONAS
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Well sure he took more, but i guess he still trained, and i don't mean Gran Tourismo, after all Cormier was a great BB, sadly very underrated.
everybody trains, but you don't get big without drugs
training is nothi g to be proud of. Especially if you only train one hour per day...
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Scambag
One of gh15's best lines ever! ;D
I like the scambeg spelling more. :D
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GH15 has grown on me. He's pretty funny but yeah, he isnt telling me much I didnt already know. Pros take lots of shit. Obviously there's more to it than that and I would never say I know all he knows. His thread on music was pretty funny, saying Adele (or whatever her name is) was gonna be the new Madonna HAHA! Madonna is shit, I dont give a fuck how many records she sold. Generation nothingness (did I get that right?) music started with Modonna. It's really the newbs that blow him that annoy me. When someone addresses him as "God" it makes me sick. Some faceless internet guy is your "god"? Holy shit are you a loser.
saying Madonna is shit proves your lack of knowledge about good music, you filthy Christian. ::)
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aside from the many pms you had to gh15 along the years that make you hypoocrat and you know you are,, since i know who you are,, you dont knwo who i am but i do know who YOU are,, aside from this....let me explain something to you ,,
gh15 era which is a long era in bodybuild history ,, is the robinhood era ,,this is how it will be known ,, it is not the actual information i put on that will make me the most memorable fella in bodybuild history ,, it is WHAT I DID ,, FOR WHO I DID IT ,, AND FOR WHAT IN RETURN,, i made no profit remember that,, i can make LOTS OF MONEY OUT OF GH15 and chose not to! it was a choice i took when i agreed to do gh15,, so...aside from fact that i did explain information that was not known i explain the alpha beta of drug intake to many bodybuild ,, i diid a slang gh15 explanation for the simple fella of why you need this and that,, i actualy explained what to elminate inorder to not end up as gym rat,, all this you wont find on steroid boarding,, aside from this....i actualy brought the SOURCE LEVEL UP,, now day sources know if they dotn perform they hav to deal with me,, and its not one boaridng,, it is alll along the field ,, in many many places not only aas,, it is including research products,, it even include over the counter balonie,, this is my abolit most important impact,, i was able to help HELP many up and comin bodybuild by nevigate them into the right way of thinking and with this bring up the sourcing level ,,
what i did is MACRO not MICRO,, i also did micro but at the end of the day when im gone ,, the macro i did wil stay,, i put a bible that you can read and you do read it ,, if you look into it the reverlation inside it are huge,, it will take years for you to actualy understand how much time saving i did for fellas,, i made fellas like you go nuts because with the years you understood that you cant ignore the gh15 movment,, it was resistable back in 2005 2006 but since 2008 it is very very strong it got to a point when you discovered that you actualy need to bring yout game up otherwize you wil end up in the local river,, and this is why those kidos and they are all kidos for me,, but this is why those pupils love me so much,, because until gh15 they had no one to cry to ,, they were crying to themsleves ,, they didnt even cry ,, they just said fuck my life and took loses,, they were easy to manipulate and easy to sell balonie to,, after gh15 they became very wize,, they graduated the god of hormone univeristy ,, each and every one of them can analyzse a bodybuild to some deghree and give oyu the right observation and you can test all my pupils they will in most cases be right on,,
i never discovered anyting huge,, I MADE EVERYTHING HUGE SEEM CLEARER AND ACTUALY BROKE IT DOWN TO SHOW HOW SIMPLE IT WAS
gh15 contribution is huge ,, it is not huge it is beyond huge,, forget about a all language i created with vocabulary ,, forget about the stupid humor i put into this ,, im talking about the actual bodybuild information ,, the actual transfering of a low level bodybuild to an advance one and then top amatuer and profesional,, i made them understand what how and why! ,, this you dont get on no steroid boarindg,,
im at peace with gh15,, i can asssure you gh15 is going into hall of fame of bodybuild,, garenteed
gh15 approved
BRAVO!!!!!
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aside from the many pms you had to gh15 along the years that make you hypoocrat and you know you are,, since i know who you are,, you dont knwo who i am but i do know who YOU are,, aside from this....let me explain something to you ,,
gh15 era which is a long era in bodybuild history ,, is the robinhood era ,,this is how it will be known ,, it is not the actual information i put on that will make me the most memorable fella in bodybuild history ,, it is WHAT I DID ,, FOR WHO I DID IT ,, AND FOR WHAT IN RETURN,, i made no profit remember that,, i can make LOTS OF MONEY OUT OF GH15 and chose not to! it was a choice i took when i agreed to do gh15,, so...aside from fact that i did explain information that was not known i explain the alpha beta of drug intake to many bodybuild ,, i diid a slang gh15 explanation for the simple fella of why you need this and that,, i actualy explained what to elminate inorder to not end up as gym rat,, all this you wont find on steroid boarding,, aside from this....i actualy brought the SOURCE LEVEL UP,, now day sources know if they dotn perform they hav to deal with me,, and its not one boaridng,, it is alll along the field ,, in many many places not only aas,, it is including research products,, it even include over the counter balonie,, this is my abolit most important impact,, i was able to help HELP many up and comin bodybuild by nevigate them into the right way of thinking and with this bring up the sourcing level ,,
what i did is MACRO not MICRO,, i also did micro but at the end of the day when im gone ,, the macro i did wil stay,, i put a bible that you can read and you do read it ,, if you look into it the reverlation inside it are huge,, it will take years for you to actualy understand how much time saving i did for fellas,, i made fellas like you go nuts because with the years you understood that you cant ignore the gh15 movment,, it was resistable back in 2005 2006 but since 2008 it is very very strong it got to a point when you discovered that you actualy need to bring yout game up otherwize you wil end up in the local river,, and this is why those kidos and they are all kidos for me,, but this is why those pupils love me so much,, because until gh15 they had no one to cry to ,, they were crying to themsleves ,, they didnt even cry ,, they just said fuck my life and took loses,, they were easy to manipulate and easy to sell balonie to,, after gh15 they became very wize,, they graduated the god of hormone univeristy ,, each and every one of them can analyzse a bodybuild to some deghree and give oyu the right observation and you can test all my pupils they will in most cases be right on,,
i never discovered anyting huge,, I MADE EVERYTHING HUGE SEEM CLEARER AND ACTUALY BROKE IT DOWN TO SHOW HOW SIMPLE IT WAS
gh15 contribution is huge ,, it is not huge it is beyond huge,, forget about a all language i created with vocabulary ,, forget about the stupid humor i put into this ,, im talking about the actual bodybuild information ,, the actual transfering of a low level bodybuild to an advance one and then top amatuer and profesional,, i made them understand what how and why! ,, this you dont get on no steroid boarindg,,
im at peace with gh15,, i can asssure you gh15 is going into hall of fame of bodybuild,, garenteed
gh15 approved
Here is what I DO know
This man is intelligent. Very intelligent.
He has a tremendous ego but its earned and deserved.
Well read and open minded.
Now FUCK off if you think I'm kissing ass. Ive NEVER kissed ANYONES arse-ever. And its costs me but so what.
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aside from the many pms you had to gh15 along the years that make you hypoocrat and you know you are,, since i know who you are,, you dont knwo who i am but i do know who YOU are,, aside from this....let me explain something to you ,,
gh15 era which is a long era in bodybuild history ,, is the robinhood era ,,this is how it will be known ,, it is not the actual information i put on that will make me the most memorable fella in bodybuild history ,, it is WHAT I DID ,, FOR WHO I DID IT ,, AND FOR WHAT IN RETURN,, i made no profit remember that,, i can make LOTS OF MONEY OUT OF GH15 and chose not to! it was a choice i took when i agreed to do gh15,, so...aside from fact that i did explain information that was not known i explain the alpha beta of drug intake to many bodybuild ,, i diid a slang gh15 explanation for the simple fella of why you need this and that,, i actualy explained what to elminate inorder to not end up as gym rat,, all this you wont find on steroid boarding,, aside from this....i actualy brought the SOURCE LEVEL UP,, now day sources know if they dotn perform they hav to deal with me,, and its not one boaridng,, it is alll along the field ,, in many many places not only aas,, it is including research products,, it even include over the counter balonie,, this is my abolit most important impact,, i was able to help HELP many up and comin bodybuild by nevigate them into the right way of thinking and with this bring up the sourcing level ,,
what i did is MACRO not MICRO,, i also did micro but at the end of the day when im gone ,, the macro i did wil stay,, i put a bible that you can read and you do read it ,, if you look into it the reverlation inside it are huge,, it will take years for you to actualy understand how much time saving i did for fellas,, i made fellas like you go nuts because with the years you understood that you cant ignore the gh15 movment,, it was resistable back in 2005 2006 but since 2008 it is very very strong it got to a point when you discovered that you actualy need to bring yout game up otherwize you wil end up in the local river,, and this is why those kidos and they are all kidos for me,, but this is why those pupils love me so much,, because until gh15 they had no one to cry to ,, they were crying to themsleves ,, they didnt even cry ,, they just said fuck my life and took loses,, they were easy to manipulate and easy to sell balonie to,, after gh15 they became very wize,, they graduated the god of hormone univeristy ,, each and every one of them can analyzse a bodybuild to some deghree and give oyu the right observation and you can test all my pupils they will in most cases be right on,,
i never discovered anyting huge,, I MADE EVERYTHING HUGE SEEM CLEARER AND ACTUALY BROKE IT DOWN TO SHOW HOW SIMPLE IT WAS
gh15 contribution is huge ,, it is not huge it is beyond huge,, forget about a all language i created with vocabulary ,, forget about the stupid humor i put into this ,, im talking about the actual bodybuild information ,, the actual transfering of a low level bodybuild to an advance one and then top amatuer and profesional,, i made them understand what how and why! ,, this you dont get on no steroid boarindg,,
im at peace with gh15,, i can asssure you gh15 is going into hall of fame of bodybuild,, garenteed
gh15 approved
Pure poetry.
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saying Madonna is shit proves your lack of knowledge about good music, you filthy Christian. ::)
Madonna is awesome
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lol..
how come he can come up with the funniest shit all the damn time
TITONAS
last place i was expecting of finding myself was on bootys titonas ,,looks good big and juicy just the way i like lol
gh15 approved
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You only need to be on one drug... you don't have to mix all this shit waiting for miracles...
You don't need Test ~ many guys don't need it and it only gives them side-effects
you recover 2 x faster (I think he meant double-time)
Train like you did when you were natural
Stick to the same routine and only add weight if your form is still perfect
Your main "mission" is to choose the drug you want.... hmmmmm...
I'm thinking he would revise this somewhat if he feels compelled to do so. I can almost read the *revisions* on the wall ~
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Quote from: gh15 on Today at 06:55:05 AM
gh15 contribution is huge ,, it is not huge it is beyond huge,, forget about a all language i created with vocabulary ,, forget about the stupid humor i put into this ,, im talking about the actual bodybuild information ,, the actual transfering of a low level bodybuild to an advance one and then top amatuer and profesional,, i made them understand what how and why! ,, this you dont get on no steroid boarindg,,
gh15 approved
ill say this..if hes cleaning up bad sources and scammers thats about the single best thing that can be done for the average person who wants to do all this.
and tren...ive said it many times.most people still dont undersatnd why its important.and of course it goes right back to most guys dont want someone looking better or being stronger than them.so of course they arent going to promote what they know really works.
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haha where did gh15 say adele is the new madonna
i actually thought about bringing her up a couple of times in the music threads because i thought he would like her ;D
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The thing is Alex doesn't even even believe what he posts in this thread. All of his posts are aimed at creating drama, nothing else.
He is coming from a new angle every few weeks, sometimes even arguing with himself with his gimmicks in the same thread. Not long ago he was posting how Nasser was gh15. Next week gh15 knows nothing and isn't a pro. It's all worthless bullshit, from a completely worthless poster.
That said, I'm exited to see how Alex will look at the Excalibur in a few short weeks. What will the man with "pro size naturally" look like? It will be a sight to see.
alex is a cool dude and most of the stuff you readon on here about him is bullshit. special ed and blockhead have multiple gimimicks here that they use to fuck with him. alex denmies having any gimmicks but i think he has a couple and does use them just for fun to create draa like you said but hes not the nutcase you think he is. this site is just for shits and giggles to him. the squadfather thing wasnt personal hes just a wealthy dude who has having a bit of fun , it was nothing for him to do what he did and honestly squad had it coming.. not that you think bad of him for that episode but many here do.
as for the excaliubr alex isnt doing it because he has been caught up in alot of work lately, his company is moving up north and he has quite a bit of responsibilities to take care of... the least of which is keeping promises he makes on this site and posing in a thong for schmoes.
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Couldn't find the right youtube link, but there are these people in many walks of life.
GH15 is the Nanny McPhee of Getbig.....
"When you need me but don't want me, I must stay, and when you want me but don't need me, I must go."
The point will come when his life has progressed past the fight of educating bodybuilders. As his pupils take the helm, they will continue to heal the fracture of lies with the conscience of truth.
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Couldn't find the right youtube link, but there are these people in many walks of life.
GH15 is the Nanny McPhee of Getbig.....
"When you need me but don't want me, I must stay, and when you want me but don't need me, I must go."
The point will come when his life has progressed past the fight of educating bodybuilders. As his pupils take the helm, they will continue to heal the fracture of lies with the conscience of truth.
QFT
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alex is a cool dude and most of the stuff you readon on here about him is bullshit. special ed and blockhead have multiple gimimicks here that they use to fuck with him. alex denmies having any gimmicks but i think he has a couple and does use them just for fun to create draa like you said but hes not the nutcase you think he is. this site is just for shits and giggles to him. the squadfather thing wasnt personal hes just a wealthy dude who has having a bit of fun , it was nothing for him to do what he did and honestly squad had it coming.. not that you think bad of him for that episode but many here do.
as for the excaliubr alex isnt doing it because he has been caught up in alot of work lately, his company is moving up north and he has quite a bit of responsibilities to take care of... the least of which is keeping promises he makes on this site and posing in a thong for schmoes.
The way you use a message board for "shits and giggles" does reflect on the real you to a degree IMO. Especially when done over a decade or whatever. I wouldn't doubt Special Ed and Block have gimmicks here but here's the thing: they could be very funny. A lot of hypocrisy too from their end, pointing out the shady side of bb and then actually going to a bb show and hugging and grabbing bodybuilders like a homo.
Squad was very very funny. Alex's contribution IMO has been ZERO. Complete shit all around, not to mention getting some very funny posters banned. Posting racist shit all the time and then complaining about racism and getting the "racists" banned. WTF is that?
Yeah I think he's a psycho for real. Just a very fake person. I have no doubt "no one" would have beat the shit out of him but like we all know Alex is a pussy.
And Alex wasn't doing no damn show, relocation or not. There was no intention of doing it at any point. This type of BS is not funny to me, don't know what others think.
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both the special ed and the block head,, both of them are highly inteligent individual,, speical head is very smart fella and he was never gh15 eventhough he got blame for it ,, same for block head he is also pretty damn smart,, if they have gimick they come to have fun and nothing more,, as i say before they are both smart fellas and prety good at what they do ,,
gh15 approved
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The way you use a message board for "shits and giggles" does reflect on the real you to a degree IMO. Especially when done over a decade or whatever. I wouldn't doubt Special Ed and Block have gimmicks here but here's the thing: they could be very funny. A lot of hypocrisy too from their end, pointing out the shady side of bb and then actually going to a bb show and hugging and grabbing bodybuilders like a homo.
Squad was very very funny. Alex's contribution IMO has been ZERO. Complete shit all around, not to mention getting some very funny posters banned. Posting racist shit all the time and then complaining about racism and getting the "racists" banned. WTF is that?
Yeah I think he's a psycho for real. Just a very fake person. I have no doubt "no one" would have beat the shit out of him but like we all know Alex is a pussy.
And Alex wasn't doing no damn show, relocation or not. There was no intention of doing it at any point. This type of BS is not funny to me, don't know what others think.
every sentence of this post is bang on- which is impressive given the accuracies made about a variety of issues.
well said.
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"speical head"
LMAO!
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The way you use a message board for "shits and giggles" does reflect on the real you to a degree IMO. Especially when done over a decade or whatever. I wouldn't doubt Special Ed and Block have gimmicks here but here's the thing: they could be very funny. A lot of hypocrisy too from their end, pointing out the shady side of bb and then actually going to a bb show and hugging and grabbing bodybuilders like a homo.
Squad was very very funny. Alex's contribution IMO has been ZERO. Complete shit all around, not to mention getting some very funny posters banned. Posting racist shit all the time and then complaining about racism and getting the "racists" banned. WTF is that?
Yeah I think he's a psycho for real. Just a very fake person. I have no doubt "no one" would have beat the shit out of him but like we all know Alex is a pussy.
And Alex wasn't doing no damn show, relocation or not. There was no intention of doing it at any point. This type of BS is not funny to me, don't know what others think.
where i think your mistaken is believing that alex takes this site seriously or even cares about what goes on here. its an outlet for entertainment. the guy is very well off and has job in computer technologies which requires him to be online most of the day.. things that he does which are seemingly very time and resource extensive really arent, not to him at least. he isnt as outwardly humorous as squad or other guys, he is more entertaining himself than anyone else. using gimmicks to play with people, see what kind of reactions he can get. other people might think what hes doing is desperate pleas for attention, but they are projecting if they think so, not understanding what hes actually doing.. which is just killing time and fucking with people for the hell of it. hes a really cool dude in real life, just dont take the stuff he does on here seriously. as for contributing.. he did make a dozen videos with nasser, pictures and video with big mal and chaos, plenty of drama and entertainment with spec ed/blockhead, flexington, squad, derek anthony, and others.. he does alot to keep the site interesting, absorbing a ton of hatred in the process.. but not giving a fuck cuz he isnt here to be liked just to have fun.
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where i think your mistaken is believing that alex takes this site seriously or even cares about what goes on here. its an outlet for entertainment. the guy is very well off and has job in computer technologies which requires him to be online most of the day.. things that he does which are seemingly very time and resource extensive really arent, not to him at least. he isnt as outwardly humorous as squad or other guys, he is more entertaining himself than anyone else. using gimmicks to play with people, see what kind of reactions he can get. other people might think what hes doing is desperate pleas for attention, but they are projecting if they think so, not understanding what hes actually doing.. which is just killing time and fucking with people for the hell of it. hes a really cool dude in real life, just dont take the stuff he does on here seriously. as for contributing.. he did make a dozen videos with nasser, pictures and video with big mal and chaos, plenty of drama and entertainment with spec ed/blockhead, flexington, squad, derek anthony, and others.. he does alot to keep the site interesting, absorbing a ton of hatred in the process.. but not giving a fuck cuz he isnt here to be liked just to have fun.
dude, hes a fucking weirdo. and you are extremely deluded if you think he doesnt take this place seriously, or that he suffers from a sociopathic disorder.
for squadfather this place was fun and busting balls. for alex gaultier its about validation, the need to belong, and getting pleasure from hurting people. he suffers from something he needs help with. something in his childhood stunted him. an overbearing mother or several foster homes where he was emotionally abused is my best guess.
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I was always under the impression that test was a base for every cycle whether it be enanth, prop or cyp.
Can anyone clarify this? One of the reasons I didn't want to start a cycle was because I wasn't comfortable shutting my test down at a young age.
"test is not a MUST! it is good for aggressiveness and sex drive but many MANY GUYS do not need it and it only gives them sides."
Read the bible, stupid.
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I think his posts about abusing fathers are pretty cool ;D
this were diff times,, it was also not this abuse,, this is abuse and this judge fucked his daughter before,, he got into her bed in the night ...and put his cock into her vagina....and ejaculated! i make sure i write it vulgar because this is exacly what happened,, take a look at his daghter perky tits...do you thin kthis sadistic patheitc weakling judge!! that has the law in his hand...wont fuck his dauhgter ? take a look at the way her tits look this is straight out daddy fuck daughter in bed! look at the mama she look horrible body wize...this is a fella who abuse his daughter! dinner nto ready ,, she did something wrong , she looked into his eyes wrong! and at 3 am someone get into her bed flip her on her ass and fuck her in the ass! and cum!
this is how digusting the americanos can be behind closed doors!
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sometimes I think
no one= the legendary "Unsung"
.guys seem similar in their drug knowledge, experience, and writing style. I pmed unsung a while back for advice he was always helpful.. no one helped me out too though. Maybe there not the same guys maybe they are.
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Wow.
Sounds like there are some serious "Internet Psycho Profilers" here, huh?
How could anyone possibly know without having met or spent some time with the individual *in person*??
Shots in the dark, man... just shots in the dark.
That would make for a good topic (if one were so inclined) ~ to actually inform us as to what kind of people they think we really are based on how, what and when we post.
I don't know many here that "stick to their guns" when it comes to posting. That is; in consistency with their true personality. Sometimes people come here just to fuck around. They don't care what anyone thinks. Other times, someone may be quite serious in what they have to say and try to defend themselves to the bitter "meltdown" end.
The internet: "Anonymity" (for the most part)
Then, there are those of us who post our pics, and still don't care. Thought-provoking to say the least. Rare for GB. :-X
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every sentence of this post is bang on- which is impressive given the accuracies made about a variety of issues.
well said.
Van Bilderass is a top poster. Usually spot on with his/her posts.
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alex is a cool dude and most of the stuff you readon on here about him is bullshit. special ed and blockhead have multiple gimimicks here that they use to fuck with him. alex denmies having any gimmicks but i think he has a couple and does use them just for fun to create draa like you said but hes not the nutcase you think he is. this site is just for shits and giggles to him. the squadfather thing wasnt personal hes just a wealthy dude who has having a bit of fun , it was nothing for him to do what he did and honestly squad had it coming.. not that you think bad of him for that episode but many here do.
as for the excaliubr alex isnt doing it because he has been caught up in alot of work lately, his company is moving up north and he has quite a bit of responsibilities to take care of... the least of which is keeping promises he makes on this site and posing in a thong for schmoes.
Relocation? How about desperately look for a job? He's been out of work for the better part of a year.
Anyone who claims alpha is not, anyone who claims it's all for shits and giggles is dead serious, and anyone with no arms is impotent, sterile and friendless.
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Relocation? How about desperately look for a job? He's been out of work for the better part of a year.
Anyone who claims alpha is not, anyone who claims it's all for shits and giggles is dead serious, and anyone with no arms is impotent, sterile and friendless.
Some truths there from someone who knows quite a lot about the burger king alex23
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dude, hes a fucking weirdo. and you are extremely deluded if you think he doesnt take this place seriously, or that he suffers from a sociopathic disorder.
for squadfather this place was fun and busting balls. for alex gaultier its about validation, the need to belong, and getting pleasure from hurting people. he suffers from something he needs help with. something in his childhood stunted him. an overbearing mother or several foster homes where he was emotionally abused is my best guess.
LOL youve never even met the guy.
Relocation? How about desperately look for a job? He's been out of work for the better part of a year.
Anyone who claims alpha is not, anyone who claims it's all for shits and giggles is dead serious, and anyone with no arms is impotent, sterile and friendless.
^^ gimmick
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Van Bilderass is a top poster. Usually spot on with his/her posts.
x2. best poster here.
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I have seen people make more size and strength gains in 2 months on gear than i make in a year. They sure as hell are pretty magic
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I have seen people make more size and strength gains in 2 months on gear than i make in a year. They sure as hell are pretty magic
That's a fact, Jack.
Especially if you've spent a substantial amount of time lifting naturally.
Its like racing a turbocharged motor with your Gremlin.
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Add consistency with diet and training and you simply CANNOT get bigger or stronger!
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Add consistency with diet and training and you simply CANNOT get bigger or stronger!
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT GH15 DOES STRESS, BUT OTHER MEMBERS DO NOT...IS TRUST UR FUCKING SOURCE. QUALITY, ALWAYS.
HIGH QUALITY DRUGS + CONSISTENT TRAINING + CONSISTENT EATING + TIME= RECIPE FOR SUCCESS.
NOTHING IN THIS EQUATION CAN SUBSTITUTE FOR THE QUALITY AND/OR QUANTITY OF DRUGS, NOT MORE TIME, NOT EVEN MORE CONSISTENT TRAINING OR DIETING THOUGH.
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Trianing consistently and eating consistently yields results alone but add any gear with any potency and BOOM!
It is like any drug though, cocaine for example people will take shortcuts and cut it to increase their profit.
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Only thing I hate about aas is having to increase the dose. I don't get the same results from 500mg of test and some dbol. I haven't grown much over the last few years. I feel like I reached my peak size with moderate doses. When I use now it's to polish what I have and maybe get a little bit stronger and feel good. Time to up the dose I guess.