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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: SaltShaker on November 02, 2011, 05:35:01 AM
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Im probably one of the few folks out there that dont wanna get any bigger than i currently am ( and no im not saying im huge). I just want to look a little bit fuller, maybe add 3-4 lbs of solid muscle mass and have that full look.
My question is, would Dianabol at low dosages (20-30mg) ED work? Would that bloat me up? if you stop dianabol, does the water retention go away?
and please stick to the question, dont suggest test or HGH.. my question is, would dianabol at low dosage provide that neccesary bump to get over some plateau?
Thanks
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Im probably one of the few folks out there that dont wanna get any bigger than i currently am ( and no im not saying im huge). I just want to look a little bit fuller, maybe add 3-4 lbs of solid muscle mass and have that full look.
My question is, would Dianabol at low dosages (20-30mg) ED work? Would that bloat me up? if you stop dianabol, does the water retention go away?
and please stick to the question, dont suggest test or HGH.. my question is, would dianabol at low dosage provide that neccesary bump to get over some plateau?
Thanks
You can be lean on any steroid. Guys bloat on dbol because they eat like crap while on it. If you are lean and using dbol, follow the diet and you will stay lean and get bigger.
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if virgin to hormones and d-boll is legit with 20-30 mg and good diet no overeat u wont believe youe eyes....just put the intensity and pay your dues in gym+kitchen good luck brother
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If you have good dbol you will love it at a lower dose. You can stay lean using dbol all about your diet.
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Thanks guys.. is Axio Labs Methanoplex any good? and with 20-30mg ED, do you need any PCT ?
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Thanks guys.. is Axio Labs Methanoplex any good? and with 20-30mg ED, do you need any PCT ?
hiow old u mate?
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28.. been lifting weight for almost 11 years now
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28.. been lifting weight for almost 11 years now
at 28 i wouldnt bother with pct....i dont bother with pct generally ;D ;D
my advice if u have estrogen problem just keep the ai runing 6-10 day after stop dbol
all in the head man most ppl think so bad they are shut down that they would be even if didnt do teh gear lol..mind is very strong
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at 28 i wouldnt bother with pct....i dont bother with pct generally ;D ;D
my advice if u have estrogen problem just keep the ai runing 6-10 day after stop dbol
all in the head man most ppl think so bad they are shut down that they would be even if didnt do teh gear lol..mind is very strong
whats your experience with dbol?
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whats your experience with dbol?
i have run up to 100mg many many time..going from as litle as 10 day bursts to full 10 weeks on it on moderate dose
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i have run up to 100mg many many time..going from as litle as 10 day bursts to full 10 weeks on it on moderate dose
what results did you see? is it as "magical" as they claim it to be?
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what results did you see? is it as "magical" as they claim it to be?
dont overanalyze and u will eb good...bb is simple no rocket sience..there no magic man UMAKE THE MAGIC when put all together diet-training-hormones-rest.
dboll was my 1st cycle i was train natural 4 year..well with 25mg i gained in 8 week more muscle thatn 4 year natural ;D
but it depend on drug response and diet train rest..example 1 my friend did same cycle as me but gained mostly water cause he not know eat like big he eat like bird
also sry for bad english is not my mother language
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did you retain most of your gains?
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Thanks guys.. is Axio Labs Methanoplex any good? and with 20-30mg ED, do you need any PCT ?
lol it might be fine, but do yourself a favor and get a good source to make you injectable dbol.
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Im probably one of the few folks out there that dont wanna get any bigger than i currently am ( and no im not saying im huge). I just want to look a little bit fuller, maybe add 3-4 lbs of solid muscle mass and have that full look.
My question is, would Dianabol at low dosages (20-30mg) ED work? Would that bloat me up? if you stop dianabol, does the water retention go away?
and please stick to the question, dont suggest test or HGH.. my question is, would dianabol at low dosage provide that neccesary bump to get over some plateau?
Thanks
first experience with roid was dbol (naposim) in 2005.
after 7 years of hard and dedicated training.
just took 10mg on training day (so 5 day a week) for 8 week, no dbol on sat-sunday.
good gain in strenght and mass.
i did some cardio, clean diet, at the end i was 107 kg in the best shape of my life (ratio strong-lean).
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dbol + test will make u bloated no matter what
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dbol + test will make u bloated no matter what
thats stupid IMO.. its true if you do high dosages.
so your saying 250mg/week test will bloat you as much as 1000mg /week?
or 30mg dbol ED will bloat you as much as 100mg ED?
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thats stupid IMO.. its true if you do high dosages.
so your saying 250mg/week test will bloat you as much as 1000mg /week?
or 30mg dbol ED will bloat you as much as 100mg ED?
if u know everything why the fuck you asking, if you are trying to look like brad pit on dbol, you are asking 2+2 to equal 3, npp will keep you full without making u bloofy, also don't forget the carbs and sugar. if u are taking baby doses, u dont have much muscle anyways
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if u know everything why the fuck you asking, if you are trying to look like brad pit on dbol, you are asking 2+2 to equal 3, npp will keep you full without making u bloofy, also don't forget the carbs and sugar. if u are taking baby doses, u dont have much muscle anyways
just cuz i ask doesnt mean that i cant differentiate between a smart answer and a bullshit generic answer like yours...im inquiring about dbol, you say "dbol + test will make you bloated" ::)
the point is, im not asking 2+2 to be 3, im asking 2+1 to be 3 .. Thats why i was inquiring about minimal dosages of DBOL.. no shit if you take 100mg of dbol every day you'll blow up cuz of water retention, i wanted to see if there is a happy medium that you will see some gains, but still be able to be lean...
just cuz you type a reply doesnt mean you know your shit or your smart..
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just cuz i ask doesnt mean that i cant differentiate between a smart answer and a bullshit generic answer like yours...im inquiring about dbol, you say "dbol + test will make you bloated" ::)
the point is, im not asking 2+2 to be 3, im asking 2+1 to be 3 .. Thats why i was inquiring about minimal dosages of DBOL.. no shit if you take 100mg of dbol every day you'll blow up cuz of water retention, i wanted to see if there is a happy medium that you will see some gains, but still be able to be lean...
just cuz you type a reply doesnt mean you know your shit or your smart..
make gains? You said you don't want to be any bigger lol
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dbol + test will make u bloated no matter what
Not true. Diet will dictate how bloated you are.
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make gains? You said you don't want to be any bigger lol
damn dude your more fucked up than i previously envisioned .. did you even read the original post ? in it i said "maybe add 3-4 lbs of solid muscle mass and have that full look." .. so yeah, im not looking to gain 50 lbs like most people want to just for the sake of being big.. i want to just get that full look and maybe add 3-4 lbs of solid mass ( which is nothing by getbig standards).. capiche? comprende?
dude if you dont know the answer, its ok to skip to the next topic, stop trying to pretend like you know your shit
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you started this thread because all you have is dbol, and whatever else you're already taking, there are compounds to help u look full without making u look bloofy, those are the ones to take, go buy them. if u don't want to look bloofy on dbol, the other things ur taking should be things like tren ace or eq, things that don't themselves cause water retention between the muscle and skin, ok? there is your answer byebye
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Honestly get a good superdrol clone take 10mg ed or even eod. You will fill out like a son of a bitch you it doesn't make you bloofy.
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"Can Dianabol be used while staying lean?"...Yes
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"Can Dianabol be used while staying lean?"...Yes
what dosages? are you talking from personal experience?
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I think apply is annoyed because us gear guys don't use drugs to look a tiny bit better. It's a waste of time. Go golf.
Yes, you can stay lean on dbol, but you'll have to fight water weight if you are prone to high estrogen.
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I think apply is annoyed because us gear guys don't use drugs to look a tiny bit better. It's a waste of time. Go golf.
Yes, you can stay lean on dbol, but you'll have to fight water weight if you are prone to high estrogen.
i understand what you mean, but its not like i look like shit, and just want to look a lil bit better ( but still look like shit). I've been lifting for 10+ years, been an athlete all my life, in great shape ( was all american wrestler, ranked #2 in the country etc)...
so yeah its not like im walking around with 30%bf and want to look a little better... im pretty lean as it is, but i just wanted to get that "full" look, and maybe add 3-4 more lbs... so thats why i was asking about dbol
and i havent taken any gear whatsoever, so i dont know if im prone to high estrogen or not... i dont believe the notion that you should either wanna get a bloated face and add 30lb of "weight" or go golf..
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What you're looking for is gh, my friend. For about 296 reasons.
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i knew he was a natural who just got his hands on some dbol, the whole question is deceptive, he's still convincing himself he's the shit and doesn't need steroids, but he has dbol and wants to phrase the question in a way that saves face know what I mean, still makes him feel superior lol, look dude take ur dbol and push weights around, cabrs and sugar help to look full so don't skimp, and good luck
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i knew he was a natural who just got his hands on some dbol, the whole question is deceptive, he's still convincing himself he's the shit and doesn't need steroids, but he has dbol and wants to phrase the question in a way that saves face know what I mean, still makes him feel superior lol, look dude take ur dbol and push weights around, cabrs and sugar help to look full so don't skimp, and good luck
lol wow dude, because of Rearden i gave you the benifit of doubt, but you really are a stupid fuck..
first of all, im not trying to impress anyone, second of all, no, as you incorrectly assumed twice now and made an ass out of yourself, i dont have my hands on dbol ( ask whitewidow, i was PMing him about good sources).
lol your answer is so fucking stupid i dont know what part of it to answer.. you say "he's still convincing himself he's the shit and doesn't need steroids,".. dude, come on, seriously? 100,000 sperm and YOU were the fastest one? i started a fucking thread asking about a steroid which will promote LEAN gains without bloating me the fuck up, why the fuck would i ask that if i wasnt planning on taking steroids?
i dont NEED steroids, noone NEEDS steroids unless your an AIDS patient, but nontheless, i want to TRY steroids.. so i dont know what made you say that
the question is deceptive? well if you took your head out of your ass and just answered the question ( like everyone else on here), then the questions has no deception in it. its a simple question... but your trying to go all Dr. Phil on my ass and get to the root of WHY and WHEN and HOW many pills i have etc.. if you dont know the answer, just STFU and move on to the next thread, let others answer
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What you're looking for is gh, my friend. For about 296 reasons.
yeah i've been hearing alot about that bro. But i wanted to do an oral cycle only ( baby steps, i dont wanna start injecting myself right away)... any recomendations on what orals?
Thanks
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lol, welcome back to the oprah show, today's topics are how much makeup is too much makeup, how to keep your pesky maids from sexing your husband, and this guy's mental gyno
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see at least now you try to be funny and you dont look as stupid as when you tried to answer the question but just sounded like a fucking moron... just let it go dude, you proved you dont know your shit.. at least in my case im asking for peoples input/insights...
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Dbol is great, and i get no bloat whatsoever at 30mg.
Haven't gone higher though.
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yeah i've been hearing alot about that bro. But i wanted to do an oral cycle only ( baby steps, i dont wanna start injecting myself right away)... any recomendations on what orals?
Thanks
If you look at things clearly, you'll see that injecting gh is far more beneficial and far less dangerous or toxic than consuming a methylated steroid orally. Of course, neither is likely to hurt you but gh is faaaaar less risky than dbol.
Look at it this way: eating pills is so easy it shows a lack of self awareness to choose that over the careful administration of a gh shot, where preparation is methodical and timing is chosen carefully.
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Further to my point, I'd use a low dose test prop before dbol for what you're looking for. Dbol isn't even the first oral I'd choose. I'd use turinabol or even anavar because there's virtually NO water retention.
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Further to my point, I'd use a low dose test prop before dbol for what you're looking for. Dbol isn't even the first oral I'd choose. I'd use turinabol or even anavar because there's virtually NO water retention.
Tbol is the shit, definitely a great choice.
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yeah i've been hearing alot about that bro. But i wanted to do an oral cycle only ( baby steps, i dont wanna start injecting myself right away)... any recomendations on what orals?
Thanks
I don't think it's really matter... anapolon, dianabol as long as you get it legit you will be good to go
and no axio might work, but it's far from legit in my list...
anavar will be even better option, but since you mess with ugl's like Axio don't even bother.
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I don't think it's really matter... anapolon, dianabol as long as you get it legit you will be good to go
and no axio might work, but it's far from legit in my list...
anavar will be even better option, but since you mess with ugl's like Axio don't even bother.
what do you recommend? care to share a source?(you can PM me)
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Further to my point, I'd use a low dose test prop before dbol for what you're looking for. Dbol isn't even the first oral I'd choose. I'd use turinabol or even anavar because there's virtually NO water retention.
Thanks bro, this is helpful, i'll do some readings on those 2
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Further to my point, I'd use a low dose test prop before dbol for what you're looking for. Dbol isn't even the first oral I'd choose. I'd use turinabol or even anavar because there's virtually NO water retention.
I agree real t-bol is an INCREDIBLE drug !!
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lol, forgot about the owning i put on this kid
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you won't stay lean on real dianabol @ 50 mg + daily. On eastern european, under dosed, bath tub dianabol, such as some crumbling razak pills from 1995, then yes you can stay lean because they are 1/10th of the advertised amount.
However on jelfa dianabol, or anything on that gold standard of ORAL dianabol- properly dosed shit- you are going to gain a HUGE amount of water weight if you even run it for 4 weeks @ 50 mg a day. Don't kid yourself and think that diet can change this. Dianabol is an excellent drug for mass, a prime kick start drug, but I consider it a supplement and not a dry supplement at that. I love the strength gains and the pump from legitimate dianabols (i.e. jelfa NOT razak shipped from poland made in 1994) but they bulk you up and add a layer of water EVERYWHERE- waist included.
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If your diet is on track then you surely can use dbol and not gain any water weight.
If your diet is shit you'll gain water.
Its not the rocket or broscience some people make it out to be.
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If your diet is on track then you surely can use dbol and not gain any water weight.
If your diet is shit you'll gain water.
Its not the rocket or broscience some people make it out to be.
this isn't correct I'm sorry. It really is science with different compounds. Like Rearden said above (@ the top of this page), you are going to have to ACTIVELY FIGHT to stay lean while taking dianabol. But why would you want to take dianabol if your goal is to stay lean during the time frame that you are on dianabol? That's kind of like asking if you can remain relaxed during an adderall binge. If you want to relax, don't take adder all. If you want to be lean, don't take LEGIT dianabol. You are going to puff up like a WATER BALLOON if you are on REAL LEGIT dianabol. NOT some eastern european razak dianabol pills manufactured in 1996 sent to you by oscaro. You are going to blow up like a PUFF FISH if you are using injectable dianabol by a certain chef, or even Jelfa dianabol pills (the gold standard of oral dianabol).
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this isn't correct I'm sorry. It really is science with different compounds. Like Rearden said above (@ the top of this page), you are going to have to ACTIVELY FIGHT to stay lean while taking dianabol. But why would you want to take dianabol if your goal is to stay lean during the time frame that you are on dianabol? That's kind of like asking if you can remain relaxed during an adderall binge. If you want to relax, don't take adder all. If you want to be lean, don't take LEGIT dianabol. You are going to puff up like a WATER BALLOON if you are on REAL LEGIT dianabol. NOT some eastern european razak dianabol pills manufactured in 1996 sent to you by oscaro. You are going to blow up like a PUFF FISH if you are using injectable dianabol by a certain chef, or even Jelfa dianabol pills (the gold standard of oral dianabol).
diet is everything. u cant take test and get ripped, you can take anadrol and get ripped, u can take deca and get ripped it doesnt matter.
its the diet that matters.
if ur eating too much and taking a highly aromatizing steroid like dbol then yes your gonna gain water weight. but ive seen plenty of guys shredded to the bone on test, dbol, and deca.
ppl make this shit way harder then it should be.
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diet is everything. u cant take test and get ripped, you can take anadrol and get ripped, u can take deca and get ripped it doesnt matter.
its the diet that matters.
if ur eating too much and taking a highly aromatizing steroid like dbol then yes your gonna gain water weight. but ive seen plenty of guys shredded to the bone on test, dbol, and deca.
ppl make this shit way harder then it should be.
looks like we disagree on a couple of points on a couple of different threads right now Mothballs. Diet is NOTHING. You can eat anything you want if you are on the right stuff. You can eat ice cream 3 times a day, breakfast lunch and dinner and be 6% bf @ 245 lbs, 6 footer. The only time you DIET is right before your show. And the last show I did, I actually did not even really diet, and I still placed in the top 5. I just upped my tren to almost 1 gram per week and I laid off the ice cream.
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looks like we disagree on a couple of points on a couple of different threads right now Mothballs. Diet is NOTHING. You can eat anything you want if you are on the right stuff. You can eat ice cream 3 times a day, breakfast lunch and dinner and be 6% bf @ 245 lbs, 6 footer. The only time you DIET is right before your show. And the last show I did, I actually did not even really diet, and I still placed in the top 5. I just upped my tren to almost 1 gram per week and I laid off the ice cream.
I hope you are not talking in terms of cups ;D
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what dosages? are you talking from personal experience?
20-30mg a day
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Its all depend how your body will react to dbol, some people prompt to more estrogen related sides, makes them look smooth and bloated.
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looks like we disagree on a couple of points on a couple of different threads right now Mothballs. Diet is NOTHING. You can eat anything you want if you are on the right stuff. You can eat ice cream 3 times a day, breakfast lunch and dinner and be 6% bf @ 245 lbs, 6 footer. The only time you DIET is right before your show. And the last show I did, I actually did not even really diet, and I still placed in the top 5. I just upped my tren to almost 1 gram per week and I laid off the ice cream.
Well if you would have dieted properly im sure you would have placed better.
And if your 6% bf eating ice cream 3x a day more power to you. But that'll be the reason among other dietary factors of why your holding a shitload of water on your cycles.
If you have a clean diet strict diet your not gonna hold a bunch of extra h20 no matter how much drugs you take. Now I didnt say not hold ANY water, but you wont hold a noticeable amount.
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Dbol is all I use these days as Test makes my nipples hurt within a week. And no, it does bloat you if you keep a clean diet.
I take around 20mg a day, 5 days a week. I don't really cycle but stay on for a month at a time then come off. I don't bother with PCT as it's only 20mg a day which really is not much.
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Dbol is all I use these days as Test makes my nipples hurt within a week. And no, it does bloat you if you keep a clean diet.
I take around 20mg a day, 5 days a week. I don't really cycle but stay on for a month at a time then come off. I don't bother with PCT as it's only 20mg a day which really is not much.
what have your gains been like from doing this? and how long have u been taking d bol for??
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Dbol is all I use these days as Test makes my nipples hurt within a week. And no, it does bloat you if you keep a clean diet.
I take around 20mg a day, 5 days a week. I don't really cycle but stay on for a month at a time then come off. I don't bother with PCT as it's only 20mg a day which really is not much.
what you just laid out is not even sufficient for a bridge.
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I realise it's not a lot, but I do make gains. Very slight, but it's enough for me. I can easily double the dose but I see no need. I've recently added some Tren which is great stuff, but I'm just destined to suffer sides which is exactly what Tren gives me. I can't sleep for shit on the stuff but I'm enduring.
Maybe I'm conservative in what I take but I'd say for anyone not willing to inject, you'd be happy what you'll see on 35-50mg of Dbol a day. Which is fuck all in what you'll see using Tren/Test/Growth, etc.
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I realise it's not a lot, but I do make gains. Very slight, but it's enough for me. I can easily double the dose but I see no need. I've recently added some Tren which is great stuff, but I'm just destined to suffer sides which is exactly what Tren gives me. I can't sleep for shit on the stuff but I'm enduring.
Maybe I'm conservative in what I take but I'd say for anyone not willing to inject, you'd be happy what you'll see on 35-50mg of Dbol a day. Which is fuck all in what you'll see using Tren/Test/Growth, etc.
hold on so you are now running oral dianabol and tren ace only?
did you just add some tren in randomly?