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Bullish for the good doctor.
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Paul, Cain and Huntsman are the ones I've liked most, but it's looking like Cain has some background shit that's going to sink him (maybe not).
Always liked a lot of what Newt's views are toward policy, but I'm leaning away from him.
Suppose that leaves RP and Huntsman.
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Ron Paul 2012.
and Berserker, the good news is that if enough leftist dbag kneepadders like me vote for paul, he could win.
Seeing the poll on getbig where Paul is crushing everyone - we can see there are a LOT of left-thinkers here who like Paul.
And of course the tea party loves the guy. And if he gets love from both sides - he could win.
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Not a chance. Paul isn't going anywhere. Still a three-horse race IMO (Romney, Cain, Perry). Newt would stand to benefit the most if Cain sinks in the polls.
Huntsman has gotten above 1 or 2 percent since entering the race. He should quit.
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Romney is perhaps the only one who can stand a chance against Obama. Not because of the Republicans (they are going to vote for whoever is the Republican candidate anyhow), but because of the independent voters who did vote for Obama but now cannot beleive a word he says.
Cain's situation with the women he harrassed is not going to go away. He made them sign a confidential agreement so they cannot say anything. He will need to lift that so these women have the freedom of speech to tell what really happened before he is going anyway.
Too bad his dick got in the way of his big head. A few moments of testosterone ruined his good chances of becoming the candidate.
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Romney is perhaps the only one who can stand a chance against Obama. Not because of the Republicans (they are going to vote for whoever is the Republican candidate anyhow), but because of the independent voters who did vote for Obama but now cannot beleive a word he says.
Cain's situation with the women he harrassed is not going to go away. He made them sign a confidential agreement so they cannot say anything. He will need to lift that so these women have the freedom of speech to tell what really happened before he is going anyway.
Too bad his dick got in the way of his big head. A few moments of testosterone ruined his good chances of becoming the candidate.
According to news reports, Cain has no say in the confidentiality agreement. That's on the NRA. The thing is, the lawyer of one of the women says she wants to talk; but the woman herself may not (or wants to do so under anonymity).
That doesn't wash to me. Every time someone asks for the specifics for what Cain supposedly get, we get the runaround.
Only two women are under this confidentiality clause. The other people, claming that Cain made "inappropriate remarks" (the Iowa DJ, Chris Wilson, etc) are not. So, what's the deal?
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It would be good to see just Romney vs Paul in the primary. Paul always seems to suffer when more options are parading around the stage.
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Well, whoever has this alleged bombshell had better drop it quickly.
Because, at least in SC, Cain's approval has gone UP, despite all these allegations.
Despite Allegations, Cain's SC Lead Widening
Despite two days of allegations of sexual harassment dating back to the 1990s, Georgia businessman Herman Cain's meteoric rise to the top of the GOP polls continues.
In the first Rasmussen Reports poll of likely S.C. Republican primary voters conducted Tuesday, Cain carried 33 percent of the support, followed by former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney at 23 percent.
Former U.S. House Speaker Newt Gingrich was the only other candidate in double-figures at 15 percent, while Texas Gov. Rick Perry (9 percent), Rep. Ron Paul (5 percent), Rep. Michele Bachmann (2 percent), former Sen. Rick Santorum (1 percent) and former Gov. Jon Huntsman (1 percent) trailed the field.
Huntsman is in the state for three days this week, while most of the candidates will return to Spartanburg Nov. 12 for the first nationally televised debate of the primary season.
Cain's strong showing equals that in Iowa and New Hampshire prior to the allegations. He finished first in Iowa and second in New Hampshire (behind Romney) in recent polling.
Cain's rise to the top is equal to that of Perry, who soared after his summer announcement in Charleston but quickly faded as his debate performances disappointed. Despite Cain's strong support in early primary/ caucus state polling, however, 44 percent of those polled said they expected Romney to eventually win the nomination.
Three-fourths of those polled knew that Cain had been accused of sexually harassing women at the National Restaurant Association. But only 30 percent of the 700 respondents believe the allegations are "very likely" or "somewhat likely" to be true.
Cain's base of support comes from those who identify themselves as very conservative. Those polled said they planned to vote for Cain, 40 percent to 25 percent over Gingrich, who came in second. Less conservative Republicans chose Cain slightly over Romney. And moderate Republicans chose Romney slightly over Cain.
The good news for Romney is that only 28 percent said they were certain of their voting plans for the Jan. 21 primary at this juncture. The bad news: 30 percent said they "very likely" or "somewhat likely" to support a third-party candidate if Romney is the nominee.
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Well, whoever has this alleged bombshell had better drop it quickly.
Because, at least in SC, Cain's approval has gone UP, despite all these allegations.
Despite Allegations, Cain's SC Lead Widening
Despite two days of allegations of sexual harassment dating back to the 1990s, Georgia businessman Herman Cain's meteoric rise to the top of the GOP polls continues.
In the first Rasmussen Reports poll of likely S.C. Republican primary voters conducted Tuesday, Cain carried 33 percent of the support, followed by former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney at 23 percent.
Former U.S. House Speaker Newt Gingrich was the only other candidate in double-figures at 15 percent, while Texas Gov. Rick Perry (9 percent), Rep. Ron Paul (5 percent), Rep. Michele Bachmann (2 percent), former Sen. Rick Santorum (1 percent) and former Gov. Jon Huntsman (1 percent) trailed the field.
Huntsman is in the state for three days this week, while most of the candidates will return to Spartanburg Nov. 12 for the first nationally televised debate of the primary season.
Cain's strong showing equals that in Iowa and New Hampshire prior to the allegations. He finished first in Iowa and second in New Hampshire (behind Romney) in recent polling.
Cain's rise to the top is equal to that of Perry, who soared after his summer announcement in Charleston but quickly faded as his debate performances disappointed. Despite Cain's strong support in early primary/ caucus state polling, however, 44 percent of those polled said they expected Romney to eventually win the nomination.
Three-fourths of those polled knew that Cain had been accused of sexually harassing women at the National Restaurant Association. But only 30 percent of the 700 respondents believe the allegations are "very likely" or "somewhat likely" to be true.
Cain's base of support comes from those who identify themselves as very conservative. Those polled said they planned to vote for Cain, 40 percent to 25 percent over Gingrich, who came in second. Less conservative Republicans chose Cain slightly over Romney. And moderate Republicans chose Romney slightly over Cain.
The good news for Romney is that only 28 percent said they were certain of their voting plans for the Jan. 21 primary at this juncture. The bad news: 30 percent said they "very likely" or "somewhat likely" to support a third-party candidate if Romney is the nominee.
Jesus h christ..
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Cains supporters are totally clueless. These arent real Conservatives at all. They are supporting a person who's ideology was a main focal point of mistrust and criticism of the original Tea Party movement and now hes their leader. The fact that some don't recognize this just goes to show how lost the public is. I can't beleive people are falling for expanded militarization, a person that supported TARP, a person that doent have a full grasp of the world around him, etc.. mind blowing. To me, voting for Cain is no different then voting for McInsane. Before anyone says he would do better then Obama, I would agree bad is better then worse but its far from great.
They think things are really going to change when by Cains own admission has said he 's going to have "people that are familiar with these things deal with it" Thats been the problem for all these years, its the same idiots in the background running things. We need someone in charge that has a complete understanding of our problems and how to solve them and surrounds himself with like minded people, not some clueless fool that is going to put his trust into more Neocon/pro Federal Reserve jerkoffs.
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this shit isn't about race.
perry or romney leaked it to destory his lead.
It's about cain being fkin incompetnent. DIdn't know china had nukes. taht alone is enough to disqualify a presidential candidate.
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Cains supporters are totally clueless. These arent real Conservatives at all. They are supporting a person who's ideology was a main focal point of mistrust and criticism of the original Tea Party movement and now hes their leader. The fact that some don't recognize this just goes to show how lost the public is. I can't beleive people are falling for expanded militarization, a person that supported TARP, a person that doent have a full grasp of the world around him, etc.. mind blowing. To me this, voting for Cain is no different then voting for McInsane. Befre you anyone says he would do better then Obama, I would agree bad is better then worse but its far from great.
Cain was a fed man for years. A lobbyist for years. Funded by kochs for years.
Can't handle a crisis. Will empty GITMO. Doesn't know china has nukes.
He's a corporate shill - and an incompetent one at that.
I know, yall fell for the "businessman gonna fix everything" - I did too. I admit he's a mess and would make a terrible GOP representative.
SC GOP voters are ignorant. They crave stupid cause "he's just like me!"
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this shit isn't about race.
perry or romney leaked it to destory his lead.
It's about cain being fkin incompetnent. DIdn't know china had nukes. taht alone is enough to disqualify a presidential candidate.
By that standard, Obama should be resigning, based on his inablity say the word, "Corpsman" correctly.
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By that standard, Obama should be resigning, based on his inablity say the word, "Corpsman" correctly.
Why do you always find a way to excuse someone by digging up someone else who is even worse? If your kid brought home a report card full of D's would you excuse it becasue another kid in the class got a card full of F's?
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By that standard, Obama should be resigning, based on his inablity say the word, "Corpsman" correctly.
Cain didn't know china had nukes. it just boggles the mind.
Cain would release all the GITMO bad guys if Al-Q kidnapped 1 US troops. Insane.
Look, i don't care about this harassment thing - I'm just mad Cain lied to us with such smugness.
But aside from all this - this guy is not all that smart or shrewd or ready to be PRESIDENT>
If guys like Romney and Paul and Newt would do better - why don't repubs just walk away from Cain and pick one of them?
Every minute spent defending Cain = another minute people see your credibility and judgment as poor.
There are several repubs who would do an awesome job undoing obama's damage - Cain just seems not ready for the job.
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oh shit, he has a new favorite pic. Are you really going to post that a billion times for us? Make sure we've each seen it over and over?
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Cain didn't know china had nukes. it just boggles the mind.
Cain would release all the GITMO bad guys if Al-Q kidnapped 1 US troops. Insane.
Look, i don't care about this harassment thing - I'm just mad Cain lied to us with such smugness.
But aside from all this - this guy is not all that smart or shrewd or ready to be PRESIDENT>
If guys like Romney and Paul and Newt would do better - why don't repubs just walk away from Cain and pick one of them?
Every minute spent defending Cain = another minute people see your credibility and judgment as poor.
There are several repubs who would do an awesome job undoing obama's damage - Cain just seems not ready for the job.
OH CRY ME A FUCKING RIVER MORON!
How about you bump ONE FUCKING THREAD from 2007 - 2010 calling out obama's lies?
Just one will do.
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Why do you always find a way to excuse someone by digging up someone else who is even worse? If your kid brought home a report card full of D's would you excuse it becasue another kid in the class got a card full of F's?
The point you clearly missed is that BOTH are flimsy excuses to dismiss someone as being an office holder.
If we DQed somebody for not knowing about certain items, there'd be NO PRESIDENT (from either party).
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oh shit, he has a new favorite pic. Are you really going to post that a billion times for us? Make sure we've each seen it over and over?
No shit. And 99% of the times the pic will be posted as a reply to something completely unrelated to what is being discussed.
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The point you clearly missed is that BOTH are flimsy excuses to dismiss someone as being an office holder.
If we DQed somebody for not knowing about certain items, there'd be NO PRESIDENT (from either party).
I guess our standards are much different. Or maybe one of us is more street wise then the other and knows when they are being taken for a ride.
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No shit. And 99% of the times the pic will be posted as a reply to something completely unrelated to what is being discussed.
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Ron Paul 2012.
and Berserker, the good news is that if enough leftist dbag kneepadders like me vote for paul, he could win.
Seeing the poll on getbig where Paul is crushing everyone - we can see there are a LOT of left-thinkers here who like Paul.
And of course the tea party loves the guy. And if he gets love from both sides - he could win.
Considering Obama and Paul are the exact opposites, and also considering that you have basically supported everything Obama has done while in Office (except Obamacare) What issues do you now agree with Paul on?
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Considering Obama and Paul are the exact opposites, and also considering that you have basically supported everything Obama has done while in Office (except Obamacare) What issues do you now agree with Paul on?
Other than guns, 180 disagrees with everything RP stands for. Go issue by issue. 180 = Obama
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Other than guns, 180 disagrees with everything RP stands for. Go issue by issue. 180 = Obama
Exactly, and remember when 180 went after McCain for being too old in 2008? Well Paul is older than McCain (and it is 4 years later). So if Paul was the Republican nominee, I am sure this would be one of 180's first attacks agasint him.
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RPaul will stop the spending and global handouts and 'we need 1000 military base' mentality of the USA.
that alone is bigger than any of the other little distraction issues.
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RPaul will stop the spending and global handouts and 'we need 1000 military base' mentality of the USA.
that alone is bigger than any of the other little distraction issues.
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so say the clown who supported Obama's lybia adventure, obamas increase in Afghanistan, the stim bill, etc.
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so say the clown who supported Obama's lybia adventure, obamas increase in Afghanistan, the stim bill, etc.
youre attacking me - not what i said.
I support ron paul and you're doing everything possible to demostrate all repubs are thick headed pricks. people will vote obama just to spite your rude ass :)
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youre attacking me - not what i said.
I support ron paul and you're doing everything possible to demostrate all repubs are thick headed pricks. people will vote obama just to spite your rude ass :)
I could care less, you are full of shit. Just be honest that you are in the tank for obama and everything he does.
If you are embarassed at what a tagic error you made supporting his shit from 2007 -2010, than say so, but dont play all cutsie like you are some libertarian RP supporter, since you are not!
You disagree with almost every major thing he is about as demonstrated by your last 4 years of supporting obama's policies that are the direct opposite of that.
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i think all getbiggers know - despite my flaws and emotion and inconsistency - that i've been in the tank for Ron Paul for about 5 years now.
Rmember the stink I made in 2008 when Hannity got all hatin' on Ron Paul at the debates?
How I vehemently attacked msnbc for trying to smear Rand Paul as a racist?
Look, i'm an obnoxious prick here a lot, no denying that, but for peete's sake, i've been 100% behind ron paul since minute 1.
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Cain is being criticized for not knowing about Chinese nukes, and it's justified, but Ron Paul is a complete RUBE in the foreign policy/military arena. BY FAR his biggest weakness.....this whole "bring em home and close all the bases, gut the military, blah, blah, blah" just does not cut it in the world we live in. I'm not saying there aren't plenty of cuts to be made to the military, but they ALL should be in the contractors side. Just ignoring a growing problem in a foreign country until it hits our shores is childish, ignorant and self-defeating.
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Cain is being criticized for not knowing about Chinese nukes, and it's justified, but Ron Paul is a complete RUBE in the foreign policy/military arena. BY FAR his biggest weakness.....this whole "bring em home and close all the bases, gut the military, blah, blah, blah" just does not cut it in the world we live in.
Says who?
You, because you've been trained to think that way? How do the other 195 countries of the world survive without 1000 military bases?
And really - was Saddam a threat to america? In power three decades and never attacked us - but the minute he drops the bucks, we have him hiding in a spider hole?
Kadaffi - did attack us 2 decades ago, fell under US thumb, then was safe until he decided to start that gold currency thing.
Do we need 1000 military bases?
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The point you clearly missed is that BOTH are flimsy excuses to dismiss someone as being an office holder.
If we DQed somebody for not knowing about certain items, there'd be NO PRESIDENT (from either party).
Certain items? Am I reading this correctly? It's like being in the fucking twilight zone.
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Certain items? Am I reading this correctly? It's like being in the fucking twilight zone.
the #1 threat to the USA in the world - whether or not they have nuclear leverage -
IMO, that's kinda a 'certain item' that's important.
he bragged about studying foreign policy for 'several MONTHS'.
To me, that's not enough. Get a newt or RPaul up there - with DECADES of experience in the foreign arena.
Cain's biggest flaw is that he think he's awesome.
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the #1 threat to the USA in the world - whether or not they have nuclear leverage -
IMO, that's kinda a 'certain item' that's important.
he bragged about studying foreign policy for 'several MONTHS'.
To me, that's not enough. Get a newt or RPaul up there - with DECADES of experience in the foreign arena.
Cain's biggest flaw is that he think he's awesome.
You know, this is a very profound observation. I don't quite know how to put it any better than what you did, but there's something very important being said here. It has to do with ignorance being justified by ego, like we saw in the Couric-Palin interview.
God bless these people, but I wish they'd stay the fuck out of our politics.
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i think all getbiggers know - despite my flaws and emotion and inconsistency - that i've been in the tank for Ron Paul for about 5 years now.
I didn't know that. I thought you were a Hillary guy, but Obama is your "make do" guy.
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Cain is being criticized for not knowing about Chinese nukes, and it's justified, but Ron Paul is a complete RUBE in the foreign policy/military arena. BY FAR his biggest weakness.....this whole "bring em home and close all the bases, gut the military, blah, blah, blah" just does not cut it in the world we live in. I'm not saying there aren't plenty of cuts to be made to the military, but they ALL should be in the contractors side. Just ignoring a growing problem in a foreign country until it hits our shores is childish, ignorant and self-defeating.
Agree. Good points.
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Cain is being criticized for not knowing about Chinese nukes, and it's justified, but Ron Paul is a complete RUBE in the foreign policy/military arena. BY FAR his biggest weakness.....this whole "bring em home and close all the bases, gut the military, blah, blah, blah" just does not cut it in the world we live in. I'm not saying there aren't plenty of cuts to be made to the military, but they ALL should be in the contractors side. Just ignoring a growing problem in a foreign country until it hits our shores is childish, ignorant and self-defeating.
Exactly, but simply because of some WEAK allegations against him, Cain is supposed to get scrapped and now 240 (heretofore a card-carrying TK member) now sings the praises of Ron Paul
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Exactly, but simply because of some WEAK allegations against him, Cain is supposed to get scrapped and now 240 (heretofore a card-carrying TK member) now sings the praises of Ron Paul
I've been kneepadding Rpaul for 6 years. every getbigger here has seen that. i freaked out in 2007 when hannity tanked RP's campaign.
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I've been kneepadding Rpaul for 6 years. every getbigger here has seen that. i freaked out in 2007 when hannity tanked RP's campaign.
BULLSHIT!!!!!
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BULLSHIT!!!!!
you have a shitty memory. you drink too much, or something :) Seriously, i've talked for years about how Rpaul voters would come from both the obama and repub base. I posted all sorts of "Ron paul won the debate!" things and argued with beach bum a ton about it.
fuck it... i have an awesome memory and you do not. let's leave it at that. your brain tells you that palin is an awesome presidential candidate, cain didn't lie, and investigating FF woudl collapse america. My brain says obama, bush, and the next guy are all crooks, and rpaul is the only dude that would really change a thing.
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you have a shitty memory. you drink too much, or something :) Seriously, i've talked for years about how Rpaul voters would come from both the obama and repub base. I posted all sorts of "Ron paul won the debate!" things and argued with beach bum a ton about it.
fuck it... i have an awesome memory and you do not. let's leave it at that. your brain tells you that palin is an awesome presidential candidate, cain didn't lie, and investigating FF woudl collapse america. My brain says obama, bush, and the next guy are all crooks, and rpaul is the only dude that would really change a thing.
BULLSHIT!!! You disagree with EVERTYTHING RP stands for.
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BULLSHIT!!! You disagree with EVERTYTHING RP stands for.
hugo, oz... speak on this, please.
240 has been praising ron paul and hating on sean hannity sinking his 2008 chances, for the last 5 years.
True or false?
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you have a shitty memory. you drink too much, or something :) Seriously, i've talked for years about how Rpaul voters would come from both the obama and repub base. I posted all sorts of "Ron paul won the debate!" things and argued with beach bum a ton about it.
(http://fatherstephen.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/pinocchio.jpg)
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(http://fatherstephen.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/pinocchio.jpg)
born again, huh? lol!
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Says who?
You, because you've been trained to think that way? How do the other 195 countries of the world survive without 1000 military bases?
And really - was Saddam a threat to america? In power three decades and never attacked us - but the minute he drops the bucks, we have him hiding in a spider hole?
Kadaffi - did attack us 2 decades ago, fell under US thumb, then was safe until he decided to start that gold currency thing.
Do we need 1000 military bases?
You don't get it. The US relies heavily on foreign interests, probably more so than any other nation. Our economy has thrived on it for decades. To pull back in would mean a huge hit to the standard of living for the avg citizen. Can you deal with that? Not many could, just look at the retards in the OWS movement as a prime example.
Not to mention the ability of terrorist organizations, rogue foreien govts, etc... to go completly unchecked. And the very reason "195 other countries in the world survive without bases" is EXACTLY because we do what we do. To think otherwise is naive. Do I think the other nations should step up and pull their fair share financially and militarily? Of course, but that is a different discussion and I've never seen RP address it. Perhaps he has.
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You don't get it. The US relies heavily on foreign interests, probably more so than any other nation. Our economy has thrived on it for decades. To pull back in would mean a huge hit to the standard of living for the avg citizen. Can you deal with that? Not many could, just look at the retards in the OWS movement as a prime example.
Not to mention the ability of terrorist organizations, rogue foreien govts, etc... to go completly unchecked. And the very reason "195 other countries in the world survive without bases" is EXACTLY because we do what we do. To think otherwise is naive. Do I think the other nations should step up and pull their fair share financially and militarily? Of course, but that is a different discussion and I've never seen RP address it. Perhaps he has.
I used to think this way. "Without stiff-arming other countries, we'd suffer..."
Then I realized that a big part of the reason WHY we have to spend $ on military to maintain this advantage - is that we allow such an insane amount of spending waste.
if we weren't funding 1000 military bases (just move it down to 300 maybe?)...
if we weren't sending hundreds of billions all over the world for paki intel and iraq reconstruction...
if we weren't spending $ on ball washing programs on the other side of the world...
if we weren't losing $60 billion CASH in iraq then sealing the records for 60 years...
and it we weren't borrowing at 40% interest from China to pay for all this -
WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SLASH TAXES IN AMERICA SIGNIFICANTLY.
The rich are crying about paying such high rates - but we woudln't need so much damn money IF we weren't spending so much.
Ron paul spend less, we tax and borrow less, and things start getting better. It's unsustainable, this current model.
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You know, this is a very profound observation. I don't quite know how to put it any better than what you did, but there's something very important being said here. It has to do with ignorance being justified by ego, like we saw in the Couric-Palin interview.
God bless these people, but I wish they'd stay the fuck out of our politics.
Then by your logic Obama shouldn't have run back in 2008.
"Ignorance being justified by ego" is just as insidious within the Democratic party.
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I used to think this way. "Without stiff-arming other countries, we'd suffer..."
Then I realized that a big part of the reason WHY we have to spend $ on military to maintain this advantage - is that we allow such an insane amount of spending waste.
if we weren't funding 1000 military bases (just move it down to 300 maybe?)...
if we weren't sending hundreds of billions all over the world for paki intel and iraq reconstruction...
if we weren't spending $ on ball washing programs on the other side of the world...
if we weren't losing $60 billion CASH in iraq then sealing the records for 60 years...
and it we weren't borrowing at 40% interest from China to pay for all this -
WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SLASH TAXES IN AMERICA SIGNIFICANTLY.
The rich are crying about paying such high rates - but we woudln't need so much damn money IF we weren't spending so much.
Ron paul spend less, we tax and borrow less, and things start getting better. It's unsustainable, this current model.
See, this is where you and I agree and are on common ground. The key difference between me and RP on the issue is that I wouldn't just close the bases for a number on paper. I would be more concerened about having bases in nations that are helping fund them or at the very least providing some type of compensation thru trade agreements, etc.. . Or the ones that are vital to being launching pads for operations. And again, I will reiterate, by FAR the largest cuts to the defense should be the insane govt contractor deals. Thats where the real money is in defense spending.
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Cain lost any hope with me when he outright lied about his comments on banning Muslim mosques. If he is too stupid to remember everything he says on television can and will be remembered, I don't want him. I know all politicians lie, but I expect them to be more proficient at it.
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See, this is where you and I agree and are on common ground. The key difference between me and RP on the issue is that I wouldn't just close the bases for a number on paper. I would be more concerened about having bases in nations that are helping fund them or at the very least providing some type of compensation thru trade agreements, etc.. . Or the ones that are vital to being launching pads for operations. And again, I will reiterate, by FAR the largest cuts to the defense should be the insane govt contractor deals. Thats where the real money is in defense spending.
As much as I dig Paul he does also have a tendency to go too far and discusses how things would be in a perfect world in a distant future. When pressed though he does clarify that there would be graduale and thought out steps to achieving the final result, (hopefully). I don't think he would just start closing bases willy nilly. There is room for a lot of cost saving but I think he would take what you mentioned into consideration.
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Then by your logic Obama shouldn't have run back in 2008.
Maybe.
"Ignorance being justified by ego" is just as insidious within the Democratic party.
I'm sure it is.
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We're gonna get stuck with Romney, a guy that no one really likes. Ron Paul is too old, and the global elites would never allow him to become president. Globalization is where we're at, and its all about dropping American standards of living down to the shitty ways of life the rest of the world has to endure.....or inner city Detroit.
Have fun having to move your immediate and extended family in with you just so you can eat.
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We're gonna get stuck with Romney, a guy that no one really likes. Ron Paul is too old, and the global elites would never allow him to become president. Globalization is where we're at, and its all about dropping American standards of living down to the shitty ways of life the rest of the world has to endure.....or inner city Detroit.
Have fun having to move your immediate and extended family in with you just so you can eat.
I think Newt has a chance to move up. I could live w Newt.
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hugo, oz... speak on this, please.
240 has been praising ron paul and hating on sean hannity sinking his 2008 chances, for the last 5 years.
True or false?
I would not say that you have been praising Paul but you have always spoken positive of him and never negative of him.
There are a few here that have constantly praised what Paul has to say which I don't think you're in the group of. BUT You've never opposed what he says like TA and a others have.
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If RP would just chill out with the anti-Israel talk and be a little more anti-Iran he could easily win the nomination. He is making it harder for himself by not compromising on his foreign policy principles (which are right) but he needs the neo con vote and he's not going to get it by not talking tougher on Iran and not supporting Israel.
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If RP would just chill out with the anti-Israel talk and be a little more anti-Iran he could easily win the nomination. He is making it harder for himself by not compromising on his foreign policy principles (which are right) but he needs the neo con vote and he's not going to get it by not talking tougher on Iran and not supporting Israel.
Maybe he doesn't value getting elected over what he believes is right...?
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I would not say that you have been praising Paul but you have always spoken positive of him and never negative of him.
There are a few here that have constantly praised what Paul has to say which I don't think you're in the group of. BUT You've never opposed what he says like TA and a others have.
i bounce back and forth between accepting the inevitability of bad guys running the world... and having hope he really can fix things!
but i've been saying RPaul could beat obama since 2007.
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i bounce back and forth between accepting the inevitability of bad guys running the world... and having hope he really can fix things!
but i've been saying RPaul could beat obama since 2007.
He can't even beat Herman Cain (alleged sexual harrassment and all).
Granted, he bested Cain in some straw polls earlier; but now he can't touch "the Godfather".
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Re: So with Cain's campaign most likely done, is it now Romney vs Paul?
We can dream can't we? 8)
If Ron Paul wasn't such a straight shooter, he could create a few more scandals for these other dirtbags... ;D
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He can't even beat Herman Cain (alleged sexual harrassment and all).
Granted, he bested Cain in some straw polls earlier; but now he can't touch "the Godfather".
TODAY he is trailing Cain.
Give it 2 weeks. Your godfather is slipping suddenly and he's gonna lose momentum twice as fast as he gained it, once rats start jumping ship.
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TODAY he is trailing Cain.
Give it 2 weeks. Your godfather is slipping suddenly and he's gonna lose momentum twice as fast as he gained it, once rats start jumping ship.
He's not my Godfather. You obviously missed the joke.
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I hope Cain stays in all the way to the bitter end
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Maybe he doesn't value getting elected over what he believes is right...?
That is his biggest problem. Common Americans can't understand some one that is truly honest.