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Title: no hormones = no bodybuild! => a case study
Post by: purenaturalstrength on November 15, 2011, 04:51:24 AM
5x115kg bench press
6x160kg deep high bar position squat (no belt or knee shits)
5x200kg =>5 minute rest => 1x220kg deadlift
phil heath clavicles
height 182cm bw 84-85kg
training years: a lot
result=>

(http://oi44.tinypic.com/t514pv.jpg)
(http://oi44.tinypic.com/2wbrckk.jpg)
Title: Re: no hormones = no bodybuild! => a case study
Post by: njflex on November 15, 2011, 09:13:59 AM
better back development than front chest/delts..
Title: Re: no hormones = no bodybuild! => a case study
Post by: goomba420 on November 15, 2011, 09:16:14 AM
shave u baboon . ive never understood why people train naturally past 2 years. u aint going anywhere, your weight has probably been stuck at the same spot for 5 months now
Title: Re: no hormones = no bodybuild! => a case study
Post by: purenaturalstrength on November 15, 2011, 09:16:45 AM
better back development than front chest/delts..

probably because 75% of training time was spent on olympic lifts then i said fuck this shit and just started general strength training

for some reason these old farts coaches think building pecs, delts and arms is against the law of weightlift

it will slow you it will stiffle you bleh blah bleh

foolishness or brilliance, i dont know...
Title: Re: no hormones = no bodybuild! => a case study
Post by: purenaturalstrength on November 15, 2011, 09:17:21 AM
shave u baboon . ive never understood why people train naturally past 2 years. u aint going anywhere, your weight has probably been stuck at the same spot for 5 months now

my weight is the same since like 5 years lol
Title: Re: no hormones = no bodybuild! => a case study
Post by: Karpaasi on November 15, 2011, 09:32:19 AM
ive never understood why people train naturally past 2 years. u aint going anywhere, your weight has probably been stuck at the same spot for 5 months now

 I've been training ten years and made improvements every year(except 2010 when I had an autoimmune disease and wasn't able to train for 5 months).  If you stay consistent on your training and you're hungry for improvements + you're able to avoid obstacles I think you will do just fine... depends on genetics offcourse ;)
Title: Re: no hormones = no bodybuild! => a case study
Post by: purenaturalstrength on November 15, 2011, 09:34:48 AM
I've been training ten years and made improvements every year(except 2010 when I had an autoimmune disease and wasn't able to train for 5 months).  If you stay consistent on your training and you're hungry for improvements + you're able to avoid obstacles I think you will do just fine... depends on genetics offcourse ;)

improvements in size for ten years straight naturally?


this doesn't make sense

Title: Re: no hormones = no bodybuild! => a case study
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 15, 2011, 11:10:15 AM
Maybe training with lighter weights/pumping...?
Title: Re: no hormones = no bodybuild! => a case study
Post by: CalvinH on November 15, 2011, 11:11:39 AM
Looks better then dj181...
Title: Re: no hormones = no bodybuild! => a case study
Post by: purenaturalstrength on November 15, 2011, 11:12:42 AM
Maybe training with lighter weights/pumping...?

I gave that approach a solid shot for about a year and all it did was decrease strength and increase vascularity
Title: Re: no hormones = no bodybuild! => a case study
Post by: njflex on November 15, 2011, 11:21:56 AM
I gave that approach a solid shot for about a year and all it did was decrease strength and increase vascularity
well it depends what your going for look to muscle or strength,,,
Title: Re: no hormones = no bodybuild! => a case study
Post by: purenaturalstrength on November 15, 2011, 11:26:02 AM
well it depends what your going for look to muscle or strength,,,

both but if you are losing strength you are definitely not on the right path...


unless maybe you have unnessary high levels of strength already like jay cutlet and doesn't care about strength somehow
Title: Re: no hormones = no bodybuild! => a case study
Post by: Karpaasi on November 15, 2011, 11:36:22 AM
improvements in size for ten years straight naturally?

this doesn't make sense


Sure thing. In recent years I've been able to bring my weak body parts up(delts&back). Trying my best here. :)
Title: Re: no hormones = no bodybuild! => a case study
Post by: purenaturalstrength on November 15, 2011, 11:39:16 AM
Sure thing. In recent years I've been able to bring my weak body parts up(delts&back). Trying my best here. :)

so what is your age and heigh+weight+fat level rough estimate


just to get some vague idea
Title: Re: no hormones = no bodybuild! => a case study
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 15, 2011, 11:42:00 AM
both but if you are losing strength you are definitely not on the right path...


unless maybe you have unnessary high levels of strength already like jay cutlet and doesn't care about strength somehow
If you're natural you can't grow on high reps anyway....
Title: Re: no hormones = no bodybuild! => a case study
Post by: gh15 on November 15, 2011, 11:45:50 AM
to quite honest with you friends,, what bodybuild ,, modern bodybuild 2000 come down to is the wuality and the purity of the gh you put into your blood,, really really this is the prime determined factor if you will have a wow look or a whatever look ,,legit gh and high quality legit gh dosed right is the ONLY way to get to look like quality impressive bodybuild no matter what size you are,,this is just the way moden bodybuild is ,,

i wil go here and say that the need to enter a gymnasium to train with out legit gh in system is no existing,, nwo yes thee is the window of growth the 6 months i talk about all the time after gh therapy ....those 3-6 months window of growth is there so it count too,, but over all no gh in system = no need to train you wont get anywhere in competetive bodybuild ,,basicaly nothing to write home about

gh15 approved
Title: Re: no hormones = no bodybuild! => a case study
Post by: Karpaasi on November 15, 2011, 11:46:27 AM
so what is your age and heigh+weight+fat level rough estimate


just to get some vague idea

26 years old

6'0''/207-230lbs and normal bodyfat roughly 11-13 %

Title: Re: no hormones = no bodybuild! => a case study
Post by: Cutlet767 on November 15, 2011, 12:02:52 PM
You are a filth liar, and cannot perform any of those lifts, nor do you weight that much.
Title: Re: no hormones = no bodybuild! => a case study
Post by: purenaturalstrength on November 15, 2011, 12:07:25 PM
You are a filth liar, and cannot perform any of those lifts, nor do you weight that much.

I like this comment, very flattering


Title: Re: no hormones = no bodybuild! => a case study
Post by: Swlabr on November 15, 2011, 12:10:57 PM
to quite honest with you friends,, what bodybuild ,, modern bodybuild 2000 come down to is the wuality and the purity of the gh you put into your blood,, really really this is the prime determined factor if you will have a wow look or a whatever look ,,legit gh and high quality legit gh dosed right is the ONLY way to get to look like quality impressive bodybuild no matter what size you are,,this is just the way moden bodybuild is ,,

i wil go here and say that the need to enter a gymnasium to train with out legit gh in system is no existing,, nwo yes thee is the window of growth the 6 months i talk about all the time after gh therapy ....those 3-6 months window of growth is there so it count too,, but over all no gh in system = no need to train you wont get anywhere in competetive bodybuild ,,basicaly nothing to write home about

gh15 approved

Except if you're 18 - 23, right? :-\
Title: Re: no hormones = no bodybuild! => a case study
Post by: purenaturalstrength on November 15, 2011, 12:17:57 PM
Except if you're 18 - 23, right? :-\

he said that that age natural growth hormone is still high and you can get 200lbs ripped with just steroids


everybody will admire you


"hard work and dedication" the whores buy it


he said
Title: Re: no hormones = no bodybuild! => a case study
Post by: Swlabr on November 15, 2011, 12:20:53 PM
he said that that age natural growth hormone is still high and you can get 200lbs ripped with just steroids


everybody will admire you


"hard work and dedication" the whores buy it


he said

3 weeks on trenbolona acetate and 208 lbs, getting thicker, leaner and stronger every day. You mad?
Title: Re: no hormones = no bodybuild! => a case study
Post by: purenaturalstrength on November 15, 2011, 12:24:41 PM
3 weeks on trenbolona acetate and 208 lbs, getting thicker, leaner and stronger every day. You mad?

not really


injecting hormones comes with a price you will pay sooner or later


but good luck friend


i stay positive


lol
Title: Re: no hormones = no bodybuild! => a case study
Post by: Nomad on November 15, 2011, 03:47:39 PM
I've been training ten years and made improvements every year(except 2010 when I had an autoimmune disease and wasn't able to train for 5 months).  If you stay consistent on your training and you're hungry for improvements + you're able to avoid obstacles I think you will do just fine... depends on genetics offcourse ;)

post your pics
Title: Re: no hormones = no bodybuild! => a case study
Post by: Galvatron on November 15, 2011, 04:01:29 PM
26 years old

6'0''/207-230lbs and normal bodyfat roughly 11-13 %



most likely 16-20%
Title: Re: no hormones = no bodybuild! => a case study
Post by: Mawse on November 16, 2011, 01:07:52 AM
he said that that age natural growth hormone is still high and you can get 200lbs ripped with just steroids


everybody will admire you


"hard work and dedication" the whores buy it


he said

didn't you read the inspirational post just above yours? The man is 230lbs and almost single digits bf from eating right, getting a full 8 hours sleep and training consistantly for ten years. You clearly don't want it enough or you'd be just as big as him.
Title: Re: no hormones = no bodybuild! => a case study
Post by: jon cole on November 16, 2011, 04:08:43 AM
5x115kg bench press
6x160kg deep high bar position squat (no belt or knee shits)
5x200kg =>5 minute rest => 1x220kg deadlift
phil heath clavicles
height 182cm bw 84-85kg
training years: a lot
result=>

(http://oi44.tinypic.com/t514pv.jpg)
(http://oi44.tinypic.com/2wbrckk.jpg)




bench press 10*120
squat 170*5 (oly style with a 2sec pause at the bottom)
dead 210*12 reps (bar paused at each reps)
chin 15 reps (at 106 kg bdw)
years of training 12
1.88 m / between 105/125 kg

those are my natty stat.
in 12 years i've done 4 short aas cycle (less than 8 week and low dose), the only benefit was in term of shape and muscularity,not too much in strenght.
i realised that you need to take more than "safe" dose to really move.

bbing is all drug.
Title: Re: no hormones = no bodybuild! => a case study
Post by: Karpaasi on November 16, 2011, 05:14:50 AM
post your pics

This moment it will not serve a purpose. I'm pretty much unknown here although I've been here on years. So I post my pics later.

most likely 16-20%

That would true assessment for most of the people who claim what I said. In three years of training I was about 206bs/17-20%(2004). I started out weighing 135lbs.
Title: Re: no hormones = no bodybuild! => a case study
Post by: Adam86 on November 16, 2011, 05:35:34 AM
I always trained naturally and i got to 197 pounds at 5'10'' dont know bodyfat but about very low under 9%
Title: Re: no hormones = no bodybuild! => a case study
Post by: Karpaasi on November 16, 2011, 05:50:53 AM
I always trained naturally and i got to 197 pounds at 5'10'' dont know bodyfat but about very low under 9%


You sure are a ripped giant! Huge stats for a lifetime natural.