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Title: The Christian right...
Post by: MindSpin on November 17, 2011, 05:10:33 PM
...stands for:
* racism
* reducing women's rights
* destroying the environment
* infringing on personal rights

discuss...
Title: Re: The Christian right...
Post by: Radical Plato on November 17, 2011, 05:16:18 PM
...stands for:
* racism
* reducing women's rights
* destroying the environment
* infringing on personal rights

discuss...
The whole basis of any religion is to undermine individuals rights so as to control. Nothing new here
Title: Re: The Christian right...
Post by: MikMaq on November 17, 2011, 05:17:05 PM
...stands for:
* racism
* reducing women's rights
* destroying the environment
* infringing on personal rights

discuss...
Just like the dems they stand for staying the fuck out of the corporate classes way end of stupid fucking thread.
Title: Re: The Christian right...
Post by: makaveli25 on November 17, 2011, 05:17:23 PM
...stands for:
* racism
* reducing women's rights
* destroying the environment
* infringing on personal rights

discuss...

 ::)

What does the left stand for

*nanny state government controls everything
*pushing a fake "green agenda (Al Gore) biggest douche bagge known to man

*Distruction of family and morals
*anti gun
*Welfare state/entitlement
*oppresion of christian right but pro Muslim
*destruction of small buisnesses
*more rules and regulations on everything


What kind of man supports a liberal agenda! Bitch made man! Look who's on your side all the queers and weirdos from hollywood, minorities who only care about more entitlements, woman's rights groups I could keep going on and on. Real men aren't liberals!
Title: Re: The Christian right...
Post by: makaveli25 on November 17, 2011, 05:24:34 PM
Just look at this scum! You side with them!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: The Christian right...
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 17, 2011, 05:25:54 PM
...stands for:
* racism
* reducing women's rights
* destroying the environment
* infringing on personal rights

discuss...

LOL.
Title: Re: The Christian right...
Post by: Galvatron on November 17, 2011, 05:26:25 PM
Fuck the Christian right. In additon to what you say Mindspin...many of these are useful idiots for corporate america (including bought politicians).

Fuck obama too.

Vote Ron Paul, he is a true conservative who believes in freedom.

Title: Re: The Christian right...
Post by: makaveli25 on November 17, 2011, 05:26:58 PM
Fucken Scum!!
Title: Re: The Christian right...
Post by: dr.chimps on November 17, 2011, 05:29:28 PM
One cast, and Mindspin has already hooked his limit.    ;D
Title: Re: The Christian right...
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 17, 2011, 05:31:50 PM
One cast, and Mindspin has already hooked his limit.    ;D

It's easier to hook the left.....trust me.
Title: Re: The Christian right...
Post by: Galvatron on November 17, 2011, 05:32:05 PM
Fuck most politicians, they are the same shit...right or left.

Fuck the government. Freedom to the people. Get the fucking government off the backs of ordinary people.
Title: Re: The Christian right...
Post by: makaveli25 on November 17, 2011, 05:33:32 PM
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Title: Re: The Christian right...
Post by: dr.chimps on November 17, 2011, 05:33:50 PM
It's easier to hook the left.....trust me.
C'mon, Coach. You fish with dynamite.  ;D
Title: Re: The Christian right...
Post by: tbombz on November 17, 2011, 05:34:21 PM
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pretty sure obama has a bigger cock than reagan did
Title: Re: The Christian right...
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 17, 2011, 05:35:31 PM
...stands for:
* racism
* reducing women's rights
* destroying the environment
* infringing on personal rights

discuss...

Here's what the Godless left stands for......


SAN FRANCISCO (CBS SF) – Poor sanitation and evidence of lice and fleas at the Occupy San Francisco encampment endanger the health of everyone in the overcrowded, makeshift tent city at Justin Herman Plaza, public health officials said Wednesday.

“Everybody that’s been down there knows it has to change,” said Dr. Tomas Aragon, a public health officer who has been conducting inspections twice a day at the Occupy SF protest.

KCBS’ Barbara Taylor Reports:
SF City Officials Fear Disease Will Spread At Occupy Encampment

Aragon said the lack of sanitation and food safety, combined with the large quantities of debris in very tight quarters, made the Occupy encampment a tinder box for gastrointestinal and respiratory infections.

“Whenever you bring a group of people together, they’re going to bring whatever they have on them,” he said. “Although we have not detected an outbreak, we did identify one person, for example, that had lice.”

Some Occupiers have cooperated with efforts such as the one by the SPCA to identify potentially deadly canine infections such as parvovirus.

On the other hand, some of the chronically homeless in the camp have mental health problems, including substance abuse, that have contributed to a culture of lawlessness, said Fire Chief Joanne Hayes-White.

“We’ve seen fist fights. There’s been acts of violence,” she said, problems that only appear to be growing. “There’s too many people living in an environment that you’re not really supposed to occupy and live in.”

Aragon and Hayes-White have recommended the encampment be pared down, if not dismantled entirely before a serious outbreak of disease occurs.

KCBS’ Chris Filippi Reports:
SF Occupiers Say They Have No Plans To Leave

City officials have pressed the demonstrators to put more space between tents and not put up large tarps. After a meeting Wednesday between Occupy SF organizers and Mayor Ed Lee, some campers seemed ready for change.

“Being able to spread out our tents and take down tarps,” said Christopher Rey, one of the Occupiers, would “get rid of a shanty town and put up the protest” they had originally intended.

As the nights have cooled, the camp has gotten somewhat smaller. But those who remain said they have no plans to leave despite the possibility that a police raid could happen at any moment.

Not to mention the outbreak of scabies, TB people shitting (literally) all over the place and cop cars and not to mention shithead Obama doing nothing to control his own people. Great freaking comparison there mindspin!!
Title: Re: The Christian right...
Post by: JAM on November 17, 2011, 09:15:42 PM
Fuck most politicians, they are the same shit...right or left.

Fuck the government. Freedom to the people. Get the fucking government off the backs of ordinary people.

Amen to that!  ;D
Title: Re: The Christian right...
Post by: LWGA on November 17, 2011, 10:57:16 PM
...stands for:
* racism
* reducing women's rights
* destroying the environment
* infringing on personal rights

discuss...
America is the Titanic....
Republicans complain that the Democrats make bad rutters...
Democrats complain that the Republicans make bad helms...
Both are to fukn' stupid to see the big picture!
Title: Re: The Christian right...
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 18, 2011, 02:22:29 AM
Maybe the truth lies in the middle, as with so many things.....
Title: Re: The Christian right...
Post by: freespirit on November 18, 2011, 06:36:14 AM
pretty sure obama has a bigger cock than reagan did


Yes, you love the cock.
Title: Re: The Christian right...
Post by: MindSpin on November 18, 2011, 09:20:16 AM
Oh, forgot to mention, the Christian right wants to impose their religious views on the rest of us and force us all to become god fearing, Mexican hating, little boy molesting bible thumpers. 
Title: Re: The Christian right...
Post by: JBGRAY on November 18, 2011, 05:08:11 PM
The Democratic Left...

...stands for:
* racism
* reducing women's rights
* destroying the environment
* infringing on personal rights

discuss...

  What the so-called Christian Right does the Left does far better.  Look at the biggest shitholes in the country..Baltimore, Detroit, LA, Newark, Philly, etc.....all under complete Democratic leadership.

Racism - the KKK, Bull Connor, George Wallace, Orville Faubus...Democrats all.  Under Democratic leadership, there are more blacks in prison than ever before, and neighborhoods all across the nation live in shitty reservations ghetto-like conditions.  The Left is THE defacto party of racism.

Reducing women's rights - the Left embraces and encourages Islam. 

Destroying the Environment - the Left has its hands dirty in this.  The Democratic party has let millions of manufacturing jobs go overseas to China and India where factories belch out mass quantities of choking smoke without regulations.

Infringment on personal rights - Dems have the lions share in this one, wanting to take more of your money, take your guns, take your rights away.
Title: Re: The Christian right...
Post by: tu_holmes on November 18, 2011, 05:12:21 PM
If someone can not see that this is a case of shit v. shit, then I don't know what does.

Almost everything the right does, the left does.

One just uses "personal freedoms" to do it, and the other uses "welfare of the nation" to do it.

Arguing one side versus another is ridiculous.
Title: Re: The Christian right...
Post by: tbombz on November 18, 2011, 07:47:21 PM
If someone can not see that this is a case of shit v. shit, then I don't know what does.

Almost everything the right does, the left does.

One just uses "personal freedoms" to do it, and the other uses "welfare of the nation" to do it.

Arguing one side versus another is ridiculous.
  there are some very real differences between the two parties

the right believes in the free market, they dont like government regulations of business nor do they like government assistance to individuals. based on the economic concepts of 'dead weight loss' and 'disincentivization' they see taxation and regulation as inherently bad for the economy and financial aid to the poor as an ineffective way to promote their prosperity. they have some strong arguments in this regard. taxation and regulation DO weigh down the economy- to a degree- at least when the economy is in the hands of private entities. and entitlements do disincentivize people from working harder- to a degree.  they also argue these points from a standpoint that one reaps what they sow, and that if someone is unproductive they have no right to consumption. they have a very strong argument in this regard.

the left believes in regulating business and in giving aid to those who need it.  they believe that business is unable to regulate itself in a responsible way and that if left to their own devices private enterprise will take advantage of employees and consumers and run their operations with heavy pollution and misuse of natural resources. this is true. they also do not believe in letting a poor person suffer from a poor standard of living when the government has the means f providing them with better.

the right believes that people ought to be forced into behaving in "moral" ways in their personal lives. they believe this is essential for society to remain functional and productive. they do not want to see people become corrupted, they encourage religiousness and conservativeness.

the left believes that a persons personal choices are their own, and whether or not they are self destructive is not of the governments concern.


there are numerous other issues but these are the two main- economic and social.  both sides have strong arguments. however, in the grand scheme of things, the left has a slight advantage. for reasons i dont feel like expanding on right now as im a tad bit drunk, sitting in my gf's living room, about to goo out to dinner, just got back from a presentation on global pverty , microfinance, and research in the areas and im really a bit worn out on the whole intellectual thing right now.  but i will respond in the future if someone would like to converse on the subject
Title: Re: The Christian right...
Post by: tu_holmes on November 18, 2011, 07:50:45 PM
You are confused man... Both of them try to control you.

They just use different means. If you don't see that, then you are easily manipulated.
Title: Re: The Christian right...
Post by: tbombz on November 19, 2011, 10:22:26 AM
You are confused man... Both of them try to control you.

They just use different means. If you don't see that, then you are easily manipulated.

yes and no

democrats  like to "control" the world of economics to the degree that they want to tax and regulate business in such a manner as to ensure responsibility and fairness and to fund social welfare programs. another way they could be said to be "controlling" is in the realm of "parents rights", which is how the conservatives would frame the issue, democrats believe that a parent does not have the right to raise their child in a way that will set that child up for hardship down the road. conservatives would say this is completely the parents decision unless the actons of the parents are directly abusive to the child. democrats would see things like overfeeding, overworking, indoctrinating cultish religious beliefs, medical procedures which have long lasting and potentially undesirable effects (example=circumcision) to be things parents should not be allowed to do.  these would be jusitified by democrats as protecting the rights of the not yet mature child to be able to make those decisions on their own once theyve grown. conservatives just see it as the government overstepping their bounds and getting between a parent and their kid.


republicans like to control peoples social and private lives and behaviors they deem to be contradictory to traditional moral beliefs. they usually go by religious fundamentals and try to ban things which they feel are patently profane, blasphemous, or socially/morally destructive. they believe that even though these are personal decisions at the core they fundamentally effect the way society operates and influences the rest of the community in a profoundly negative way. democrats would argue that even though some personal decisions do carry the potential to negatively effect the lives of othe rpeople they only carry that potential indirectly, and you can not hold someone liable for the recpetiveness of other people to their bad decisions. also,its been proven time and time again prohibitions are ineffective.



they are very real differences
Title: Re: The Christian right...
Post by: tu_holmes on November 19, 2011, 12:42:37 PM
Economic control directly affects private lives and social control directly affects the economy.
Title: Re: The Christian right...
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 19, 2011, 06:01:21 PM
...stands for:
* racism
* reducing women's rights
* destroying the environment
* infringing on personal rights

discuss...


LOL.   How is that Hope & Change 5 Trillion later working out for us? 
Title: Re: The Christian right...
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 19, 2011, 06:03:41 PM
pretty sure obama has a bigger cock than reagan did


Michelle Obama does too.   What is that fucking thing? 

Title: Re: The Christian right...
Post by: tbombz on November 19, 2011, 08:36:50 PM
Economic control directly affects private lives and social control directly affects the economy.
to some degree, yes. but in very different ways.

economic control can effect the ability of people to pursue their personal/social desires to the extent that it can limit(by way of taxes/regulations) or increase(by way of welfare/regulations[ie minimum wage, 8 work days, etc]) ones ability to do so.

 social control can effect the economy by effecting peoples productivity. prohibiting behaviors which are correlated with low productivity for example.


very very different. 


lumping both parties together is just plain ignorant.
Title: Re: The Christian right...
Post by: tu_holmes on November 19, 2011, 09:06:15 PM
to some degree, yes. but in very different ways.

economic control can effect the ability of people to pursue their personal/social desires to the extent that it can limit(by way of taxes/regulations) or increase(by way of welfare/regulations[ie minimum wage, 8 work days, etc]) ones ability to do so.

 social control can effect the economy by effecting peoples productivity. prohibiting behaviors which are correlated with low productivity for example.


very very different.  


lumping both parties together is just plain ignorant.
I don't think you have any concept of what is ignorant.

Many people in the real world would say the stuff you talk about on getbig is ignorant, so your blanket statement is hardly valid.

Grow up son.

See the world for what it is, then get back to me. I'll expect a full report in a few years.
Title: Re: The Christian right...
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on November 21, 2011, 11:19:22 AM
yes and no

democrats  like to "control" the world of economics to the degree that they want to tax and regulate business in such a manner as to ensure responsibility and fairness and to fund social welfare programs. another way they could be said to be "controlling" is in the realm of "parents rights", which is how the conservatives would frame the issue, democrats believe that a parent does not have the right to raise their child in a way that will set that child up for hardship down the road. conservatives would say this is completely the parents decision unless the actons of the parents are directly abusive to the child. democrats would see things like overfeeding, overworking, indoctrinating cultish religious beliefs, medical procedures which have long lasting and potentially undesirable effects (example=circumcision) to be things parents should not be allowed to do.  these would be jusitified by democrats as protecting the rights of the not yet mature child to be able to make those decisions on their own once theyve grown. conservatives just see it as the government overstepping their bounds and getting between a parent and their kid.


republicans like to control peoples social and private lives and behaviors they deem to be contradictory to traditional moral beliefs. they usually go by religious fundamentals and try to ban things which they feel are patently profane, blasphemous, or socially/morally destructive. they believe that even though these are personal decisions at the core they fundamentally effect the way society operates and influences the rest of the community in a profoundly negative way. democrats would argue that even though some personal decisions do carry the potential to negatively effect the lives of othe rpeople they only carry that potential indirectly, and you can not hold someone liable for the recpetiveness of other people to their bad decisions. also,its been proven time and time again prohibitions are ineffective.



they are very real differences


Shut the fuck up you know it all windbag. I hope the next time you're doing bench presses the bar falls right on your forehead and crushes your skull.
Title: Re: The Christian right...
Post by: bears on November 21, 2011, 11:29:44 AM
...stands for:
* racism
* reducing women's rights
* destroying the environment
* infringing on personal rights

discuss...

not much to discuss.  your post is really kind of stupid.
Title: Re: The Christian right...
Post by: MindSpin on December 02, 2011, 09:49:40 AM
not much to discuss.  your post is really kind of stupid.

So then you agree with my statement.