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This cop is a real pofs IMHO.
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That first video made we want to kick the living shit out of that cop.
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"Life on the line"
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This cop is a real pofs IMHO.
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If the cops tried peaceful means and it didn't work, then I've got no problem with this. Unfortunately, the vid starts in the middle of the shit.
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How hard would it have been to simply lock the door to the bathroom, let a few roaches or rats start crowling around and see these idiots scramble for their lives?
Better yet - get huge loudspeakers and put Palin / Rush / Hannity / BOR / GWB speeches on cycle and these kids would disburse like the world was coming to and end.
My beef with these idiot cops is that they gave the kids exactly what they wanted on a silver platter.
DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB ON THE PART OF THE POLICE.
The fire was smoldering and dying down and these cops just tossed lighter fluid on it.
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(http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Davis.jpg)
I have to admit that this pic made me laugh.
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(http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Davis.jpg)
I have to admit that this pic made me laugh.
All I see in that pic are idiots in a mutually beneficial relationship. That fat tax vacuum spraying the kids will be getting OT, benes, commendations, maybe a back strain claim, etc. and the moron kids will be getting exactly what they want - media attention, news cycles filled with this, etc.
DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB.
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How hard would it have been to simply lock the door to the bathroom, let a few roaches or rats start crowling around and see these idiots scramble for their lives?
Better yet - get huge loudspeakers and put Palin / Rush / Hannity / BOR / GWB speeches on cycle and these kids would disburse like the world was coming to and end.
My beef with these idiot cops is that they gave the kids exactly what they wanted on a silver platter.
DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB ON THE PART OF THE POLICE.
The fire was smoldering and dying down and these cops just tossed lighter fluid on it.
Every report I've seen where they are protesting the colleges, it's about fee hikes.
I don't get it. There's no shortage of colleges and there are plenty of cheaper colleges than UC Davis, Berkley, etc.
Go somewhere else.
Students leaving for other colleges in droves will make a bigger statement than crying and interlocking arms and camping in front of offices.
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Every report I've seen where they are protesting the colleges, it's about fee hikes.
I don't get it. There's no shortage of colleges and there are plenty of cheaper colleges than UC Davis, Berkley, etc.
Go somewhere else.
Students leaving for other colleges in droves will make a bigger statement than crying and interlocking arms and camping in front of offices.
Even with the fee hikes the UC schools are still some of the cheapest public schools in the country.
Maybe they should ask themselves why California shells out millions of dollars on illegals every year (they just passed their own DREAM act) while cutting school funding at the same time.
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Even with the fee hikes the UC schools are still some of the cheapest public schools in the country.
Maybe they should ask themselves why California shells out millions of dollars on illegals every year (they just passed their own DREAM act) while cutting school funding at the same time.
Agreed! That is why I mock these fools as well. They don't understand WHY the tuition is going up and instead ignorantly lash out at the sympton and not the root cause.
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If the cops tried peaceful means and it didn't work, then I've got no problem with this. Unfortunately, the vid starts in the middle of the shit.
This. These vids always conviently start after all the back and forth nonsense.
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This. These vids always conviently start after all the back and forth nonsense.
Agreed - but that is what this OWS people wanted! See, i am looking at this from the viewpoint that these idiot cops just served up exactly what the morons wanted.
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Agreed - but that is what this OWS people wanted! See, i am looking at this from the viewpoint that these idiot cops just served up exactly what the morons wanted.
I see your point, but not much else they can do. Just do their job and hope that people see it for what it was. I would have prefered napalm, but hey thats just me... ;D
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I see your point, but not much else they can do. Just do their job and hope that people see it for what it was. I would have prefered napalm, but hey thats just me... ;D
See - I would have preferred that the cops hand out job applications to local businesses and then let the kids act like assholes about it and turn it on them. All would have been on video.
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See - I would have preferred that the cops hand out job applications to local businesses and then let the kids act like assholes about it and turn it on them. All would have been on video.
But my way would have been a more permanent fix.... ;D
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But my way would have been a more permanent fix.... ;D
Its about the media and accepted narrative of all of this crap. No different than the way the MSM was to create the fake narrative about obama. That bullshit narrative is why we are stuck with this asshole - its all perception.
Now the perception will be that moron college kids were treated horribly by even worse cops. You watch.
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LOL @ pumping Palin speeches out of huge speakers.
that would hurt way more than tear gas would.
LOL @ Palin reading her shitty audio book at 150 dB
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fucking shame going on. You couldn't have just picked up their 110 pound scrawny asses and arrested them You had to mace them first.
screw that. at some point, one of these kids is going to do something back to a cop, and it won't be pretty. seeing video like that - even though I think the OWS kids are a joke - makes my blood boil. just arrest them. no resistance. No need to mace them.
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LOL @ pumping Palin speeches out of huge speakers.
that would hurt way more than tear gas would.
LOL @ Palin reading her shitty audio book at 150 dB
Got to be crafty. See - having read rules for Radicals by Alinsky, and it is apparent these kids did as well, the cops acts and responded EXCATLY how the morons wanted.
This episode seems like a chapter right out of that damn book and these idiot cops seems too uninformed as to what is going on here.
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fucking shame going on. You couldn't have just picked up their 110 pound scrawny asses and arrested them You had to mace them first.
screw that.
The morons at FR are all up in arms over this getting attention.
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fucking shame going on. You couldn't have just picked up their 110 pound scrawny asses and arrested them You had to mace them first.
screw that. at some point, one of these kids is going to do something back to a cop, and it won't be pretty. seeing video like that - even though I think the OWS kids are a joke - makes my blood boil. just arrest them. no resistance. No need to mace them.
We know your stance on it because of your one bogus detainment... ::) You have NO idea what took place before the video started, yet the cops were wrong. Fuck that, they shouldn't have to be there in the first place wasting tax dollars so if they decide to mace/slap/etc.... these fuckwits I really, really don't care. just get the trash off of the street, please.
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Chancellor creates task force to review Friday's incident
11.19.11
Dear Member of the UC Davis Community:
Yesterday was not a day that would make anyone on our campus proud; indeed the events of the day need to guide us forward as we try to make our campus a better place of inquiry, debate, and even dissent. As I described in my previous letter to the community, this past week our campus was a site of week-long peaceful demonstrations during which students were able to express their concerns about many issues facing higher education, the University of California, our campus, our nation, and the world as a whole. Those events involved multiple rallies in the Quad and an occupation of Mrak Hall which ended peacefully a day later.
However, the events on Friday were a major deviation from that trend. In the aftermath of the troubling events we experienced, I will attempt to provide a summary of the incident with the information now available to me.
After a week of peaceful exchange and debate, on Thursday a group of protestors including UC Davis students and other non-UC Davis affiliated individuals established an encampment of about 25 tents on the Quad. The group was reminded that while the university provides an environment for students to participate in rallies and express their concerns and frustrations through different forums, university policy does not allow such encampments on university grounds.
On Thursday, the group stayed overnight despite repeated reminders by university staff that their encampment violated university policies and they were requested to disperse. On Friday morning, the protestors were provided with a letter explaining university policies and reminding them of the opportunities the university provides for expression. Driven by our concern for the safety and health of the students involved in the protest, as well as other students on our campus, I made the decision not to allow encampments on the Quad during the weekend, when the general campus facilities are locked and the university staff is not widely available to provide support.
During the early afternoon hours and because of the request to take down the tents, many students decided to dismantle their tents, a decision for which we are very thankful. However, a group of students and non-campus affiliates decided to stay. The university police then came to dismantle the encampment. The events of this intervention have been videotaped and widely distributed. As indicated in various videos, the police used pepper spray against the students who were blocking the way. The use of pepper spray as shown on the video is chilling to us all and raises many questions about how best to handle situations like this.
To this effect, I am forming a task force made of faculty, students and staff to review the events and provide to me a thorough report within 90 days. As part of this, a process will be designed that allows members of the community to express their views on this matter. This report will help inform our policies and processes within the university administration and the Police Department to help us avoid similar outcomes in the future. While the university is trying to ensure the safety and health of all members of our community, we must ensure our strategies to gain compliance are fair and reasonable and do not lead to mistreatment.
Furthermore, I am asking the office of Administrative and Resource Management and the office of Student Affairs to review our policies in relation to encampments of this nature and consider whether our existing policies reflect the needs of the students at this point in time. If our policies do not allow our students enough flexibility to express themselves, then we need to find a way to improve these policies and make them more effective and appropriate.
Our campus is committed to providing a safe environment for all to learn freely and practice their civil rights of freedom of speech and expression. At the same time, our campus has the responsibility to ensure the safety of all others who use the same spaces and rely on the same facilities, tools, environments and processes to practice their freedoms to work and study. While the university has the responsibility to develop the appropriate environments that ensure the practice of these freedoms, by no means should we allow a repeated violation of these rules as an expression of personal freedom.
Through this letter, I express my sadness for the events of past Friday and my commitment to redouble our efforts to improve our campus and the environment for our students.
Sincerely,
Linda P.B. Katehi
Chancellor
http://chancellor.ucdavis.edu/messages/2011/taskforce_1...
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Got to be crafty. See - having read rules for Radicals by Alinsky, and it is apparent these kids did as well, the cops acts and responded EXCATLY how the morons wanted.
This episode seems like a chapter right out of that damn book and these idiot cops seems too uninformed as to what is going on here.
that video will do a great deal to help their cause. If I see a cop broke down on the side of the road, right now, I'm going to feel less inclined to help, and more inclined to remind him what his asshole brethren did to some piled up college kids providing no threat at all.
sickening. Even if you don't agree with them - Americans do not deserve to be treated that way. Pick them up and arrest them.
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If you missed the 60's.... lol...
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We know your stance on it because of your one bogus detainment... ::) You have NO idea what took place before the video started, yet the cops were wrong. Fuck that, they shouldn't have to be there in the first place wasting tax dollars so if they decide to mace/slap/etc.... these fuckwits I really, really don't care. just get the trash off of the street, please.
i saw a bunch of idiots having a peaceful protest. If one of them raised a hand, you mace that one.
But opening up on the crowd like that? patentic. They could have picked them up, one by one, and carted them to jail. fine with me.
I'm fine with every OWSer being locked up for 6 months for breaking law being someplace they shouldn't be. But to physically spray them when they don't need to, well, I think bad things will come of this. I support LEO, have them in my family, but right now, I'm in no mood to help any cop because of what this one prick did.
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Exactly. These cops are a bunch of thugs. Do they even train in unarmed situations anymore? Or is it - Mace, Taser, Shoot - make excuses later?
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i saw a bunch of idiots having a peaceful protest. If one of them raised a hand, you mace that one.
But opening up on the crowd like that? patentic. They could have picked them up, one by one, and carted them to jail. fine with me.
I'm fine with every OWSer being locked up for 6 months for breaking law being someplace they shouldn't be. But to physically spray them when they don't need to, well, I think bad things will come of this. I support LEO, have them in my family, but right now, I'm in no mood to help any cop because of what this one prick did.
I'd have prefered a good stomping before the arrest and after the macing.... ;D
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just makes my blood boil seeing that. pick up one guy and bracelet him. To the cop car. Anyone resists, you mace them.
I'm gonna make it a point to tell any cop I see tonight what bags of shit their broethers in blue were in this case. fucking animals.
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I'd have prefered a good stomping before the arrest and after the macing.... ;D
See, i dont - because that just feeds these people on and on and on.
you need reverse psychology here.
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I'd have prefered a good stomping before the arrest and after the macing.... ;D
yeah, what if it was obama's police force macing the shit out of peaceful protesters after obama outright steals the 2012 election, and could easily happen?
is it the OWS cause you hate? Or just like seeing any protesters getting torched like that?
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See, i dont - because that just feeds these people on and on and on.
you need reverse psychology here.
agreed. Quietly and respectfully put them in police cars. Lock them up for breaking the law...
I personally hate the OWS group, could care less, but right now I would feed one dinner while giving a cop the bird. That comes 100% from seeing this video. Cops got played right into it. I bet the OWS approval rating goes up substantially from this. That fat cop holding up mace in air before spraying, fck him.
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agreed. Quietly and respectfully put them in police cars. Lock them up for breaking the law...
I personally hate the OWS group, could care less, but right now I would feed one dinner while giving a cop the bird. That comes 100% from seeing this video. Cops got played right into it. I bet the OWS approval rating goes up substantially from this. That fat cop holding up mace in air before spraying, fck him.
I am arguing on FR that the Tea party is going to be treated the same way when protests happen again if obamacare is upheld by the USSC and they are are all like "Oh - it would never happen to us since we are peaceful"
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yeah, what if it was obama's police force macing the shit out of peaceful protesters after obama outright steals the 2012 election, and could easily happen?
is it the OWS cause you hate? Or just like seeing any protesters getting torched like that?
Mostly just people protesting things I don't believe in or care about.... ;D
In all seriousness, we still don't know all the circumstances surrounding it. Perhaps this protestor was spotted causing trouble earlier, etc? Maybe not, but that is the same type of projecting you are doing by seeing a tiny clip and just losing it about what the cop did.
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Good grief. What I see in the video is at the beginning clearly the cops told these turds what was going to happen, as the area cleared out. The protestors chose to make their little stance and got maced for it, so what? Now IF one of the protestors got up and was trying to do what the cops asked and was maced, then I would have a problem. Police work is a dirty, nasty shitty job 99% of the time and things don't go down like they did on Andy Griffith.
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Good grief. What I see in the video is at the beginning clearly the cops told these turds what was going to happen, as the area cleared out. The protestors chose to make their little stance and got maced for it, so what? Now IF one of the protestors got up and was trying to do what the cops asked and was maced, then I would have a problem. Police work is a dirty, nasty shitty job 99% of the time and things don't go down like they did on Andy Griffith.
So if the cop said instead "get up and move or I will shoot you" and they did not move and the cop shot them - would that have been ok? Not trying to be a dick - just asking.
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Mostly just people protesting things I don't believe in or care about.... ;D
In all seriousness, we still don't know all the circumstances surrounding it. Perhaps this protestor was spotted causing trouble earlier, etc? Maybe not, but that is the same type of projecting you are doing by seeing a tiny clip and just losing it about what the cop did.
OWS Portland pic. Look at the girl on left, open mouth.
I dunno... "causing trouble earlier" and issuing punishment now ain't somethign cops should do. Pick them up, one by one, and put them in police cars. They'll quickly GTFO of there. Or they'll all be in jail.
If they're pushing cops, yes, you mace their asses til the can is empty.
Don't complain in Nov 2012, when private firm troops wearing DNC and ACORN gear are macing tea partiers mad about a stolen election. that's all i'm saying.
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another thing to consider - it's not measurable, but think about the impact this is having on perception of police nationwide.
how many people in colleges, at the rallies, just sitting home looking at pics, want to spit, and hate the guts of those cops?
You think anyone in that crowd will ever stop to help a rookie cop getting beat down on the side of the road by 2 ex-cons who got the jump on him? Shit no.
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These govt union thugs make me sick. They are nothing but the pratorian guard for the leviathon govt we have.
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another thing to consider - it's not measurable, but think about the impact this is having on perception of police nationwide.
how many people in colleges, at the rallies, just sitting home looking at pics, want to spit, and hate the guts of those cops?
You think anyone in that crowd will ever stop to help a rookie cop getting beat down on the side of the road by 2 ex-cons who got the jump on him? Shit no.
I hated most cops long before this. ;D ;D
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So if the cop said instead "get up and move or I will shoot you" and they did not move and the cop shot them - would that have been ok? Not trying to be a dick - just asking.
Oh brother, comparing being maced to getting shot.....give me a break. I was tear gassed twice by the good ole US govt in the military for training purposes, it's not that big a deal and clears up very quickly. You just snot and cry uncontrolably for a few minutes. Comparing that to shooting is the hyperbole that turds like the OWS crowd feeds off. I'm surprised at you.
And 240, I said that I only endorse protestors getting maced when they are protesting things I don't agree with, so I will happily be posting about your imagined scenario in 2012.... ;D
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I hated most cops long before this. ;D ;D
So did 240 and the majority of these protestors and THAT is my point. Everybody has already decided a verdict long before this took place.
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I hated most cops long before this. ;D ;D
i support cops and would pull over and cap two bad guys beating a rookie cop to a pulp. (LEO in family and think most bad guys get off way to easy with pleas)
the 20 year old chick getting hit with mace in her open mouth by a cop? I bet she'd do things differently in light of this.
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i support cops and would pull over and cap two bad guys beating a rookie cop to a pulp. (LEO in family and think most bad guys get off way to easy with pleas)
the 20 year old chick getting hit with mace in her open mouth by a cop? I bet she'd do things differently in light of this.
So you "support cops" yet because of the actions in this ONE video would now not help cops, etc...? Seems to me your are a little too easily swayed.
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Oh brother, comparing being maced to getting shot.....give me a break. I was tear gassed twice by the good ole US govt in the military for training purposes, it's not that big a deal and clears up very quickly. You just snot and cry uncontrolably for a few minutes. Comparing that to shooting is the hyperbole that turds like the OWS crowd feeds off. I'm surprised at you.
And 240, I said that I only endorse protestors getting maced when they are protesting things I don't agree with, so I will happily be posting about your imagined scenario in 2012.... ;D
In the media age we live in today - this will be treated little differently. watch.
BTW - my disdain for cops is based on growing up with and knowing 5 cops now and what they do and get away with on all levels. the more I see - the more incensed I get when cops ask for respoct from the public.
Two way street and the cop should go first.
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wonder what dog did - hey at least the cop didnt kill it.
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In the media age we live in today - this will be treated little differently. watch.
BTW - my disdain for cops is based on growing up with and knowing 5 cops now and what they do and get away with on all levels. the more I see - the more incensed I get when cops ask for respoct from the public.
Two way street and the cop should go first.
I don't really see this going far in the mainstream media, but will be beaten to death on the internet. And like I said when I watch the video I don't see the cops doing anything outrageous. They appears they asked them to comply, warned them and when they didn't they got maced. Next.
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I have a friend who has broken his hand 3 times on peoples faces - he laughs about it. I have anouther who has cost the city hundreds of thousands in police brutality lawsuits and he keeps getting promotions, I have another who made over 240k last year by fucking around with OT , etc and he will retire at 45 with a pension of over 120k a year for life, plus full benes. thinks nothing of it that our taxes are so high.
I dont give a damn about cops, they have greatly earned the general disgust and contempt many in the general public feel towards them.
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The police have been more than accommodating with these protests considering these people wore out their welcome a month ago.
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OWS Portland pic. Look at the girl on left, open mouth.
I dunno... "causing trouble earlier" and issuing punishment now ain't somethign cops should do. Pick them up, one by one, and put them in police cars. They'll quickly GTFO of there. Or they'll all be in jail.
If they're pushing cops, yes, you mace their asses til the can is empty.
Don't complain in Nov 2012, when private firm troops wearing DNC and ACORN gear are macing tea partiers mad about a stolen election. that's all i'm saying.
You'd be hardpressed to find any of the major PMC's backing the DNC unless it was putting them ona plane outa the country.
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Here is the problem guys:
1. These clowns are running a media and pr war, not a legal or real one. So the hippies love this shit. It takes away from talk about rapes, drugs, murder, etc and sets it back to somewhere else.
2. The cops look terrible in this. It would be one thing if these kids were kicking down doors or fences, but they were sitting on the floor while a dozen other cops were nearby - they could not have broken the arm lock and arrested a few of these morons who refused to leave? The image looks awful and in the 24/7 media world, that is what matters, for better or worse.
3. This is a pyscological fuck up by the cops. This stupid OWS movement was dying down , was fractured, and was quickly losing steam. Now - these fools are going to unit, have a rallying cry, sue the school and the PD, and have a new recruiting tool.
4. Rules for Radicals by Alinsky. What these kids pulled was almost literally right out of that book. having read that book twice - these morons set the bait for the cops for the overreaction like tossing red meat in front of a dog and they went for it. Now - the issue will be the overreaction, not the fact that these idiots refused to leave.
5. You cant beat these marxists by force. That wont work, it never does. What you need to do is a combo of ridicule, psy ops, and sort of what like Schiff did.
This is how you do it - Schiff peacfully, but forcefully - DESTROYS these people. This is what to do - get in their faces and tear their failed ideology apart and these people will be exposed for the morons they are.
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Geneva says we can't spray our enemies in combat with pepper spray
Yet it is perfectly fine to spray our own citizens!!!
(A very good point made on DU)
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Even with the fee hikes the UC schools are still some of the cheapest public schools in the country.
Maybe they should ask themselves why California shells out millions of dollars on illegals every year (they just passed their own DREAM act) while cutting school funding at the same time.
For comparable schools perhaps, but the tuition at say Towson is only 6-7K per year.
Not to mention they can go to a community college, get the prereq's out of the way, then transfer to a more expensive 4 year (something I wish I had done and saved lots of money).
No argument with the illegals and cutting money for schools - that's just pathetic.
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Geneva says we can't spray our enemies in combat with pepper spray
Yet it is perfectly fine to spray our own citizens!!!
(A very good point made on DU)
I took a peek on DU and that seems to be a contention that they can't back up.
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Source: CBS News
(CBS/AP) SAN FRANCISCO - Two University of California, Davis police officers involved in pepper-spraying seated protesters are being placed on administrative leave as the chancellor of the school accelerates the investigation into the incident.
UC Davis Chancellor Linda Katehi on Sunday said she has been inundated with reaction over the incident, in which an officer dispassionately fires pepper spray on a line of sitting demonstrators.
Video of the incident was circulated widely on YouTube, Facebook and Twitter on Saturday, in which protesters flinch and cover their faces but remain passive with their arms interlocked, as onlookers shriek and scream out for the officer to stop.
The university's faculty association called on Katehi to resign, saying in a letter there had been a "gross failure of leadership."
Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57328362/officers
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yeah, the mob mentality works with both the protesters, and the cops, who decide they are suddenly a paramilitary force, and that macing 18 year old girls is totally necessary.
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yeah, the mob mentality works with both the protesters, and the cops, who decide they are suddenly a paramilitary force, and that macing 18 year old girls is totally necessary.
What a failure of mature leadership all around.
Schiff showed the way how to deal with this. Send dozens of business people down there with job applications and this cow
D turn in to a decent thing.
Having leftist union thugs attack leftist hippies works for no one.
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Having leftist union thugs attack leftist hippies works for no one.
lol, well that's one way to characterize things I suppose.
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See - schiff showed the way to deal with these people. Schiffshowed the way. Get in they're face and destroy them.
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UC Davis police chief on leave after pepper spraying
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | 11/21/2011 | Jason Dearen
The president of the University of California system said he was "appalled" at images of protesters being doused with pepper spray and plans an assessment of law enforcement procedures on all 10 campuses, as two police officers and the police chief were placed on administrative leave.
"Free speech is part of the DNA of this university, and non-violent protest has long been central to our history," UC President Mark G. Yudof said in a statement Sunday in response to the spraying of students sitting passively at UC Davis. "It is a value we must protect with vigilance."
Yudof said it was not his intention to "micromanage our campus police forces," but he said all 10 chancellors would convene soon for a discussion "about how to ensure proportional law enforcement response to non-violent protest."
(Excerpt) Read more at csmonitor.com ...
See - the cops played right in to the hands of those commies. Dumb Dumb Dumb
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Just like I thought....no mainstream media coveage to speak of. Avg person on the street doesn't even know this happened.
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I've seen this all over the place.
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I've seen this all over the place.
Other than the net and a couple of shorts on the nightly news, I haven't. With as fast as the news cycle is, this will be most likely completely forgotten in a week or so at most.
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Other than the net and a couple of shorts on the nightly news, I haven't. With as fast as the news cycle is, this will be most likely completely forgotten in a week or so at most.
Oh agreed - the financial armageddon is going to take stage again.
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Its about the media and accepted narrative of all of this crap. No different than the way the MSM was to create the fake narrative about obama. That bullshit narrative is why we are stuck with this asshole - its all perception.
Now the perception will be that moron college kids were treated horribly by even worse cops. You watch.
Nah, the reasonable people know these videos from the protestors are edited or conveniently start at moments like this. It's the ignorant ones that get upset about it...
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Nah, the reasonable people know these videos from the protestors are edited or conveniently start at moments like this. It's the ignorant ones that get upset about it...
i have seen this all over the news. These morons are media savy and waging PR wars. Watch the lawsuits start flying.
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yeah it's all over the news now. Very aggressive action on the part of the police, and from the audio, it sounded like a (poor) judgment call on the scene.