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Title: NPC Nationals - Todd Jewell wins the Men's BB Overall
Post by: jude2 on November 19, 2011, 07:24:04 PM
Todd Jewell wins the SHW and Overall. He is the guy who beat up the bank robber and got a reward to up his supps. Congrats.
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: Stavios on November 19, 2011, 07:25:40 PM
Todd Jewell wins the SHW and Overall. He is the guy who beat up the bank robber and got a reward to up his supps. Congrats.

wtf I'll have to check out some pic, he has never been pro level
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: jude2 on November 19, 2011, 07:27:15 PM
He finally nailed his conditioning.
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: wes on November 19, 2011, 07:31:05 PM
He was peeled and balanced.......looked great.
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: OTHstrong on November 19, 2011, 08:12:24 PM
Man what a shitty thread about Nationals, every year it goes downhill on getbig since 07, everyone used to post and pics all over now no gives a shit about bodybuilding on getbig anymore, what a shame.
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: jmt1 on November 19, 2011, 08:14:56 PM
anyone have the placings?  pics?
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: Big N on November 19, 2011, 08:31:46 PM
Bradistani, can you please un-gay this thread sir? The genius didnt post not one pic  ::)
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: jude2 on November 19, 2011, 08:38:19 PM
anyone have the placings?  pics?
I tried to load them but MD wouldn't let me.
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: njflex on November 19, 2011, 09:07:08 PM
went through the md board each class lot of pics,,some impressive builds ,,ngyen sp? looked great,jewell looked great too big dude,,superheavies had some massive guy's and most conditioned as well,,,each class had there share of real freaks condition wise,crazy shape,,ect,,,they  all look worthy tough to judge those huge classes 20or more ,,
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: jude2 on November 19, 2011, 09:11:34 PM
The womens and mens physique had between 50 and 70 people in each class.
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: musclecenter on November 19, 2011, 09:26:22 PM
Todd Jewell, Winner of Men's overall & Super Heavyweight
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: musclecenter on November 19, 2011, 09:32:20 PM
Overall
Todd Jewell

Earned Pro Card
Ron Hackaspker
Luis Santiago
J. B. Bartlett
Alan Bailey
Marco Rivera
An Nguyen
Todd Jewell


Super Heavyweight

1. Todd Jewell
2. Max Charles
3. Brian Yersky
4. Andrew Jemmott
5. Blair Mone
6. Keith Williams
7. Eboni Wilson
8. Stephen Frazier
9. Audrius Jegelevicius
10. Dusty Hanshaw
11. Rudy Richards
12. Yamil Cabral
13. Rafael Jaramillo
14. Ryan Watson
15. Korbie Nitiforo
James Swanson
James Davis
Gabriel Latifi
Hany Salib
Myron Jackson
Rasheed Oldacre

Heavyweight
1. An Nguyen
2. Robert Youells
3. Brad Rowe
4. Erik Ramierez
5. David Fenty
6. Joel Thomas
7. Sean Barber
8. Armon Adibi
9. Shaunte Blakely
10. Kaden Vu
11. Alexis Rolon
12. Steven Nix
13. Justin Compton
14. Melvin Alston
15. Jeff Johnson
Shawn Boisacq
Steven Matechak
Ryan Humiston
Alexey Forak
Peter Shebey
Kevin Sperling
Julius Page
Andrew Wright


Light Heavyweight

1. Marco Rivera
2. Benny Brantley
3. Darron Glenn
4. Cory Mathews
5. Alexey Gonzalaz
6. Lloyd Dollar
7. Bryan Pazdzierz
8. Miguel Neil
9. Harry Jones
10. Alejandro Cambronero
11. Randy Moore
12. Johnathan Johnson
13. Jason Winn
14. Henry Armstead
15. Marion Benton
Dave Rienzi
Mark Perry
Tom Jimenez
Carl Horst
Stanley Lee
John Lopez
Brian Hoydic
Matthew Axford
Vincent Que
Jason Compton
Johnny Speight
Jesse Marines-Jr
Nedzed Sacipovic
Steve Spencer
Shawn Nowrey
Tyrone Wright
Esterick TJ Watkins
Jean Claude Desardouin


Middleweight

1. Alan Bailey
2. Steven Silverman
3. Chauncey Wilson
4. Theodore Atkins Jr
5. Ronald Torres
6. Tyler Mike
7. Stoil Stoilov
8. Neko Roberson
9. Eddie Foster
10. Robert Kreider
11. Blas Montalvo
12. Robert Jacob
13. Charles Crocitto
14. Jeff Cook
15. Jamil Johnson
Ronald Torres
Edgardo Melendez
Wayne Williams
Matthew Johnson
Roberto Robles
Craig Pratt
Eli Blahut
Chris Hunte
Alfredo Santana
Brian Rochester
Texidor Fraijan
Steve McNamara
Charles Curtis
Edgar Petrosian



Welterweight

1. J. B. Bartlett
2. Victor Del Campo
3. Julius Rumingan
4. Timoney Fernandez
5. James Sledge
6. Rafael Gonzalez
7. Kob Yan
8. Dickens Fenelon
9. Tim Ward
10. Jason Allinder
11. Dean Parave


Lightweight

1. Luis Santiago
2. Luis Moreno
3. Chris McCalop
4. Kelly Bautista
5. Christopher San Juan
6. Alfredo Prince
7. Chris Darby
8. Israel Hernandez
9. Nhon Ly
10. Alan Watari
11. Hiep Nguyen
12. Jacques Pitcher
13. Roosevelt Woodard
14. Rusty Disher
15. Todd Lee
16. Fernando Abaco



Bantamweight

1. Ron Hackaspker
2. Alden Gamet
3. Heath Warren
4. George Gibson
5. Jay Tasin
6. Barry Morris
7. Jesse DeLaCruz
8. Chris Hart
9. Ali Al-hassan
10. Sam Balooch
11. Shane Cooper
12. Jimmy Nguyen
13. Martin Burger
14. Frankie Ferguson
15. John Aguirre
Dennis Stimpson
Nick Lepore
Angel Trujillo
Eric Walker
Adam Weinberg
Alvin Viernes
Shaun Clarida
Luis Echevarria
David Few
Paul Gillison
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: The Grim Lifter on November 19, 2011, 09:35:32 PM
Man what a shitty thread about Nationals, every year it goes downhill on getbig since 07, everyone used to post and pics all over now no gives a shit about bodybuilding on getbig anymore, what a shame.

Make a tranny division and that will change
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 19, 2011, 09:38:55 PM
...On the bright side. USC beat Oregon and the USA won the Presidents Cup. Tiger was clutch!
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: gh15 on November 20, 2011, 12:00:16 AM
Todd Jewell, Winner of Men's overall & Super Heavyweight

now,, THAT! a phyqqe to be proud of for fella with average genetic,, this is indeed hormones but this is also powerful ,,strong looking,, tight and wide,, this is how a phsyiqe should look like on a pro card holder friend! wether heavy light heavy middle weight any weight,, this ! is how it should look like and you too! can look this way ,, you too! can look this way ,, this is average genetic on human growth and aas,, most likley gh15 pupil


very nice!
gh15 approved
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: Schmoe Buster on November 20, 2011, 12:29:49 AM
now,, THAT! a phyqqe to be proud of for fella with average genetic,, this is indeed hormones but this is also powerful ,,strong looking,, tight and wide,, this is how a phsyiqe should look like on a pro card holder friend! wether heavy light heavy middle weight any weight,, this ! is how it should look like and you too! can look this way ,, you too! can look this way ,, this is average genetic on human growth and aas,, most likley gh15 pupil


very nice!
gh15 approved

I agree, he looks great, well balanced with the right thickness
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 20, 2011, 12:41:11 AM
Guy looks good indeed, now it's time for him to grow some belly... :-\
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: jwb on November 20, 2011, 12:56:42 AM
Needs some lat thickness pronto.
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: musclecenter on November 20, 2011, 01:10:15 AM
3 weeks ago

Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: WillGrant on November 20, 2011, 01:18:17 AM
3 weeks ago


Looks great.  8)
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: musclecenter on November 20, 2011, 01:38:48 AM
Both winners of bantamweight & lightweight earned pro cards too
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: Schmoe Buster on November 20, 2011, 01:43:15 AM
Both winners of bantamweight & lightweight earned pro cards too


Both look great but is their any point in them competing as pro's, they wont place anywhere
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: newmom on November 20, 2011, 06:21:49 AM
Both look great but is their any point in them competing as pro's, they wont place anywhere

yup I agree. Won't knock them but really what's the point
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: SF1900 on November 20, 2011, 06:25:28 AM
3 weeks ago



29 years old?  :o :o Fuck, I thought he was like 38  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: musclecenter on November 20, 2011, 06:39:55 AM
An Nguyen wins heavyweight

Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: wes on November 20, 2011, 06:41:33 AM
An Nguyen wins heavyweight


This guy can do damage as a pro for sure.
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on November 20, 2011, 06:46:23 AM
An Nguyen wins heavyweight




Perfect physique from the front. No weak points.
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: wes on November 20, 2011, 06:49:24 AM

Perfect physique from the front. No weak points.
Looks better than Todd Jewel IMO.
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: musclecenter on November 20, 2011, 06:50:32 AM

Perfect physique from the front. No weak points.
...
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: ironneck on November 20, 2011, 07:09:00 AM
they all look like shit compared to WC
  salami destroys them easily
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on November 20, 2011, 07:14:25 AM
Looks better than Todd Jewel IMO.


Agreed.
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: wes on November 20, 2011, 07:16:19 AM

Agreed.
Sometimes,actually most of the time,pre-contest hype and exposure go a long way......not that Todd didn`t look great either.........apples vs. oranges type of thing.
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: Swlabr on November 20, 2011, 07:17:03 AM
Lol, Dusty Hanshaw in 10th place. So much for superior genetics and Danta cow protein. ;D
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: musclecenter on November 20, 2011, 07:40:53 AM
they all look like shit compared to WC
  salami destroys them easily
..
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: littleguns on November 20, 2011, 07:58:35 AM
Both look great but is their any point in them competing as pro's, they wont place anywhere

Lets remember, Dex Jackson earned his pro as a LW or Bantam, can't remember.....
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: OTHstrong on November 20, 2011, 08:07:21 AM
Lets remember, Dex Jackson earned his pro as a LW or Bantam, can't remember.....
Ah, no he was light heavy, he competed as bantam and as light but not for his pro card, I believe he was 188 or something like that
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: Parker on November 20, 2011, 08:23:45 AM
This guy can do damage as a pro for sure.
Not unless a improved his back, and I see a very unimpressive physique.
Todd Jewell has a SHITTY back with back asymmetry issues. The quality is shitty...it gets worse and worse each yr...and if Jewell beat Max, it means Max didn't bring it...the Nats and their "give every card to those who win their class" is also partly responsible for the shitty quality of the IFBB...
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: musclecenter on November 20, 2011, 09:25:32 AM
Men Physique
Overall
Matthew Acton


Earned Pro Card
Matthew Acton
Michael McFall
Miguel Aguilar
Collin Humphrey
Anthony Scotti
Joe Herr



Class A
1. Matthew Acton
2. Michael McFall
3. Sheridan House
4. Raymond Querido
5. Ricky Torres
6. Jonathan Antignani
7. Mike Ferguson
8. Bert Lopez
9. Wellington Swartout
10. Joe Andaya
11. Roger Frederick
12. Steven Tavarez
13. Evan Starr
14. Mario Avallone
15. Shaka Smith
Nick Noethe
Scott Cameron
Earnest Flowers
Steve Smith
Andre Carvana
Ronald Gallagher
You Peng
Timothy Roberts
Andre Jackson
Breon Gage
Zain Imran
Class B
1. Miguel Aguilar
2. Collin Humphrey
3. Tyler Ogg
4. Pierre Vuala
5. Shadrack Hendricks
6. John Dougherty
7. Armando Chavez
8. Bill Hillen
9. Chris Mercadel
10. Chris Perrella
11. Bobby Momenteller
12. Geobanny Paula
13. Adam Lamb
14. Ward Patrick
15. Shane Eslahi
Michael Walding
Dexter Hardy
Leon Johnson
Garret White
Joshua Jones
Tommy Reynolds
Randy Garza
Antonio Baker
Beau Lotz
Jonathan Le
Nicholas Soto
Jason McGeorge
Pete Khatcherian
Donald Beckwith
Seville Ko
Kenneth George
Justin Colwell
Art Ortiz
Brent Bumgarner
Brandon Odom
Michael Bevins
Ryan Fasano
Frank Elliot
Erik Mara
Dewayne Triplett
Samuel Mearridy
Charles Parker
Scott Lamb
Andrew Greaves
Eric Vogel
Jason Beard
Bryce Anderson
Bryan Waring
Brant Larose
Alberto Barrios
Dean Bartness
Edwin Libreros
Beau Hightower
Class C
1. Anthony Scotti
2. Joe Herr
3. Justin Klein
4. Danny Kovarkizi
5. Eli Dinz
6. Keenon LeBlanc
7. Cory Lagasse
8. Bradley Martyn
9. Steve Mousharbash
10. Dean Saliasi
11. Marcus Johnson
12. Aaron OConnell
13. Josh Bowmar
14. Ian Lauer
15. Chad Demchik
Johnny Olsen
Thomas Blood
Randy McBroom
Scott Clifton
Trent Calvan
Brian Ortega
Moe Guiragossian
Keith Baker
Corey Leigh
Trevor Larson
Tony Litton
Xavisus Gayden
Alex Maddux
Antwan Daniels
Coy Barton
Christopher Patek
Courtney Campbell
Jason Giardino
Gino Caccavale
Lord David Jackson
Tom Little
Derek Green
Mark Liguori
James Ball
Rob Conway
Patrick Powell
David Spinelli
John Lee
Aaron Tapia
Adam King
Aaron Moore
Quentin Akins
Ryan Vinson
Christopher Villa
Greg Ewen
Miguel Frank
Stephen Massarone
Eric Bacon
Stephen Mariarty
John Franko
Dan Brown
Jon Cheplak
Jedidiah Dodds
Erik De La Rosa
Nate Lewis
Freddie Burton
Robert Ernst
Lawrence Ballenger
Rado Pagac
Joseph Pearson
Theron Moodie
Matt DeAngelo
Matt Scott
Ryan Coologhan
Ryne Bastyr
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: musclecenter on November 20, 2011, 09:29:38 AM
Women Bodybuilding
Overall
Michelle Cummings
Earned Pro Card

Michelle Cummings


Heavyweight
1. Michelle Cummings
2. Jennifer Kennedy
3. Nekole Hamrick
4. Jennifer Gutierrez
5. Angela Rayburn
6. Christina Rhodes
7. Julie Peavey
8. Tammy Jones
9. Mary Cain
10. Heidi Hegg
11. Yamile Marrero
12. Heather Darling
13. Ann Walsh
14. Emilie Wicker
15. Nuriye Evans
Kelly Washburn
Kimberly Vay
Veron Thornhill
Light Heavyweight
1. Roxanne Edwards
2. Sara Mathison
3. Tierany Chertein
4. Justine Dohring
5. Joella Bernard
6. Christine Sabo
7. Amy Bridges
8. Anita Ramsey
9. Dana Capobianco
10. Michelle Brent
11. Robyn Blankenship
12. Monica Smith
13. Yahaira Agosto
14. Valeria Picarella
Middleweight
1. Laura Boisacq
2. Tomefafa Ameka
3. Jennifer Peccia
4. Holly Chambliss
5. Jessica Simonet
6. Cheryl Faust
7. Linda Jernigan
8. Leann George
9. Frauke Diaz
10. Melita Salome
11. Christy Parave
Kristine Mele
Robin Hull
Lightweight
1. Kimmie Morgan
2. Patricia Watson
3. Laurel Woodbridge
4. Natalie Barnett
5. Nancy Espinal
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: njanvi on November 20, 2011, 10:11:42 AM
With all the hormones in her veins, I'm sure Michelle is Cummings all the time
 ;D
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: BiGHer on November 20, 2011, 10:21:38 AM
An Nguyen should have taken overall IMO, but Todd Jewel looked great and not hating on him.
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: BiGHer on November 20, 2011, 10:25:10 AM
yup I agree. Won't knock them but really what's the point

It's a business tool really.  If these guys are smart, they'll never compete as pro's or at least not often.  They need to just maitain their physique or keep bodybuilding as a hobby while using their pro status to make money.  If you're smart with that IFBB status, you can use it to get you training clients, establish a website, host fitness seminars, build a supplement company or open a store, etc.  I am not saying these guys will ever be able to make millions as IFBB pro's, but if they are smart and a little business savvy, they can use their pro status as tool to generate a nice little income.
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: Parker on November 20, 2011, 10:26:48 AM
The Nats, where shit gets rewarded, again.
Todd and An looked 4 day old glazed donuts with shitty backs.
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: RagingBull on November 20, 2011, 10:28:54 AM
Not unless a improved his back, and I see a very unimpressive physique.
Todd Jewell has a SHITTY back with back asymmetry issues. The quality is shitty...it gets worse and worse each yr...and if Jewell beat Max, it means Max didn't bring it...the Nats and their "give every card to those who win their class" is also partly responsible for the shitty quality of the IFBB...

Exactly.  It seems no one is really looking at his back.
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: musclecenter on November 20, 2011, 08:00:12 PM
Men's overall-winner Todd Jewell
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: 240 is Back on November 20, 2011, 08:01:58 PM
i'm sure he outmuscled everyone, but was there anyone with gifted lines and shape in the top 5?
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: ironneck on November 20, 2011, 08:08:18 PM
Men Physique
Overall
Matthew Acton


Earned Pro Card
Matthew Acton
Michael McFall
Miguel Aguilar
Collin Humphrey
Anthony Scotti
Joe Herr



Class A
1. Matthew Acton
2. Michael McFall
3. Sheridan House
4. Raymond Querido
5. Ricky Torres
6. Jonathan Antignani
7. Mike Ferguson
8. Bert Lopez
9. Wellington Swartout
10. Joe Andaya
11. Roger Frederick
12. Steven Tavarez
13. Evan Starr
14. Mario Avallone
15. Shaka Smith
Nick Noethe
Scott Cameron
Earnest Flowers
Steve Smith
Andre Carvana
Ronald Gallagher
You Peng
Timothy Roberts
Andre Jackson
Breon Gage
Zain Imran
Class B
1. Miguel Aguilar
2. Collin Humphrey
3. Tyler Ogg
4. Pierre Vuala
5. Shadrack Hendricks
6. John Dougherty
7. Armando Chavez
8. Bill Hillen
9. Chris Mercadel
10. Chris Perrella
11. Bobby Momenteller
12. Geobanny Paula
13. Adam Lamb
14. Ward Patrick
15. Shane Eslahi
Michael Walding
Dexter Hardy
Leon Johnson
Garret White
Joshua Jones
Tommy Reynolds
Randy Garza
Antonio Baker
Beau Lotz
Jonathan Le
Nicholas Soto
Jason McGeorge
Pete Khatcherian
Donald Beckwith
Seville Ko
Kenneth George
Justin Colwell
Art Ortiz
Brent Bumgarner
Brandon Odom
Michael Bevins
Ryan Fasano
Frank Elliot
Erik Mara
Dewayne Triplett
Samuel Mearridy
Charles Parker
Scott Lamb
Andrew Greaves
Eric Vogel
Jason Beard
Bryce Anderson
Bryan Waring
Brant Larose
Alberto Barrios
Dean Bartness
Edwin Libreros
Beau Hightower
Class C
1. Anthony Scotti
2. Joe Herr
3. Justin Klein
4. Danny Kovarkizi
5. Eli Dinz
6. Keenon LeBlanc
7. Cory Lagasse
8. Bradley Martyn
9. Steve Mousharbash
10. Dean Saliasi
11. Marcus Johnson
12. Aaron OConnell
13. Josh Bowmar
14. Ian Lauer
15. Chad Demchik
Johnny Olsen
Thomas Blood
Randy McBroom
Scott Clifton
Trent Calvan
Brian Ortega
Moe Guiragossian
Keith Baker
Corey Leigh
Trevor Larson
Tony Litton
Xavisus Gayden
Alex Maddux
Antwan Daniels
Coy Barton
Christopher Patek
Courtney Campbell
Jason Giardino
Gino Caccavale
Lord David Jackson
Tom Little
Derek Green
Mark Liguori
James Ball
Rob Conway
Patrick Powell
David Spinelli
John Lee
Aaron Tapia
Adam King
Aaron Moore
Quentin Akins
Ryan Vinson
Christopher Villa
Greg Ewen
Miguel Frank
Stephen Massarone
Eric Bacon
Stephen Mariarty
John Franko
Dan Brown
Jon Cheplak
Jedidiah Dodds
Erik De La Rosa
Nate Lewis
Freddie Burton
Robert Ernst
Lawrence Ballenger
Rado Pagac
Joseph Pearson
Theron Moodie
Matt DeAngelo
Matt Scott
Ryan Coologhan
Ryne Bastyr


is that pauly d?
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: buselmo on November 20, 2011, 09:47:36 PM
Lol, Dusty Hanshaw in 10th place. So much for superior genetics and Danta cow protein. ;D

LOL!
if he were smart, he would've ditched DC and went with disgusted. would probably bump him up to 8th! LOL
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: buselmo on November 20, 2011, 09:51:07 PM
they all look like shit compared to WC
  salami destroys them easily

Salama was doomed the minute he walked into the room for weigh-ins in the worlds... Rafael santonja was talking to the competitors that were licking his asshole and when salama walked in, everyone turned around and looked... someone said "shit, we're screwed"... rafael said "no, he won't win, don't worry. too much pump n'pose. won't let him win"... this is before the guy took his fucking shirt off.

poor guy almost collapsed in tears when he didn't win.
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: gh15 on November 20, 2011, 09:55:08 PM
LOL!
if he were smart, he would've ditched DC and went with disgusted. would probably bump him up to 8th! LOL

the problem of the fella is that he dont compete in thr right weight clas he need compete in light heavy! ,, this is long gone,, see when i throuw here doses and products and when i say this and that and that much gh i also talk about fellas with the ability to sustain the result and for their frame to carry it on ,,with desty he needed to be in lighter class,, nto so heavy ,, and condition sometie can kill physiqe ...in his case it kill physiqe for the physiqe starting to take a paluboizm aspect to it ..so from now on the more he try to improve his condition the more palubolizm he will look ,, he needed diff approach ,, needed to do light heavys and to imporve and place high in light heavy ,, i dont know if he has what it take to win pro card even as light heavy,, but! his physiqe is not heavy and not super heavy

gh15 approved
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: musclecenter on November 20, 2011, 10:07:33 PM
Report from MuscleMag's Andy Haman

Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: musclecenter on November 20, 2011, 10:13:51 PM
Dave palumbo & LT talking about Mens Physique winner

Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: KevinP85 on November 20, 2011, 10:21:21 PM
Not unless a improved his back, and I see a very unimpressive physique.
Todd Jewell has a SHITTY back with back asymmetry issues. The quality is shitty...it gets worse and worse each yr...and if Jewell beat Max, it means Max didn't bring it...the Nats and their "give every card to those who win their class" is also partly responsible for the shitty quality of the IFBB...

Right.....if it ain't flex, Shawn, dex, or even Vic you are not impressed ::)

Have you seen an's physique in person? Saw him in Vegas at nats over the summer. Looks good and he turned pro on his third try. Plus he's around 5'9 and in his 20's. Got plenty of time.
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: 20inch calves on November 20, 2011, 11:18:26 PM
first off i was glad todd jewel won his pro card. he has been trying a while and he finally nailed his conditioning.

secondly i think gh is right dusty h needs to go to heavy weight. he looks great offseason...via water weight and doesn't have the muscle yet anyway for SHW
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: SamsonD on November 21, 2011, 02:50:02 AM
I don't understand the Dusty going down in weight class thing?  He is massive and grainy as hell right now.  He would be a skinny twink as a heavy or light heavy.  He's like 5 10 I think.  His structure is not good so that would hurt him even more at the lower weight classes wouldn't it?
I think he has to be as big and lean as possible to stand a chance of winning his card.  That would be playing to his strengths.  He's not going to get his waist down, and his quad sweep just isn't there because he isn't shaped that way.  He did lose a TON of leg size this year though, and or his upper body growth just out paced his wheels.

I don't know why you guys on getbig are so down on him?  He seems to be a pretty straight shooter and all around nice guy.  Yes he is affiliated with Dante, but Dusty doesn't really talk about drugs so even though he may not be honest about what he uses(who is), he doesn't lie either and say you need TRT and 4IU GH...

Although a different approach to things may be what he needs at this point.  Separation from Dante and TP seemed to work for Kuclo.
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: seCrawler on November 21, 2011, 03:02:53 AM
Right.....if it ain't flex, Shawn, dex, or even Vic you are not impressed ::)

Have you seen an's physique in person? Saw him in Vegas at nats over the summer. Looks good and he turned pro on his third try. Plus he's around 5'9 and in his 20's. Got plenty of time.

He is right the Jewell guy is horrible.  How many pro cards were given out at that show?  I know a lot of people on the board have complained about the NPC handing them out like candy to undeserving guys.  Pick another bodybuilder, because the Jewell guy is going no where fast.
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: wes on November 21, 2011, 03:15:47 AM
I don't understand the Dusty going down in weight class thing?  He is massive and grainy as hell right now.  He would be a skinny twink as a heavy or light heavy.  He's like 5 10 I think.  His structure is not good so that would hurt him even more at the lower weight classes wouldn't it?
I think he has to be as big and lean as possible to stand a chance of winning his card.  That would be playing to his strengths.  He's not going to get his waist down, and his quad sweep just isn't there because he isn't shaped that way.  He did lose a TON of leg size this year though, and or his upper body growth just out paced his wheels.

I don't know why you guys on getbig are so down on him?  He seems to be a pretty straight shooter and all around nice guy.  Yes he is affiliated with Dante, but Dusty doesn't really talk about drugs so even though he may not be honest about what he uses(who is), he doesn't lie either and say you need TRT and 4IU GH...

Although a different approach to things may be what he needs at this point.  Separation from Dante and TP seemed to work for Kuclo.
I don`t know much about Dusty,but from the few recent pics I`ve seen of,he`s in damned good condition.

Has some flaws to iron out,but he was ripped.

As far as his drug intake goes,it`s nobodys business but his own......I never understood the
'he`s lying" crowd when someone doesn`t discose their ILLEGAL drug use online and they`re posting under their real name.

It`s like advertising that you held up a liquor store last night!!
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: gh15 on November 21, 2011, 04:24:11 AM
I don't understand the Dusty going down in weight class thing?  He is massive and grainy as hell right now.  He would be a skinny twink as a heavy or light heavy.  He's like 5 10 I think.  His structure is not good so that would hurt him even more at the lower weight classes wouldn't it?
I think he has to be as big and lean as possible to stand a chance of winning his card.  That would be playing to his strengths.  He's not going to get his waist down, and his quad sweep just isn't there because he isn't shaped that way.  He did lose a TON of leg size this year though, and or his upper body growth just out paced his wheels.

I don't know why you guys on getbig are so down on him?  He seems to be a pretty straight shooter and all around nice guy.  Yes he is affiliated with Dante, but Dusty doesn't really talk about drugs so even though he may not be honest about what he uses(who is), he doesn't lie either and say you need TRT and 4IU GH...

Although a different approach to things may be what he needs at this point.  Separation from Dante and TP seemed to work for Kuclo.

are you fellas crazy or somethign? who hates him? ,, you cant everytime i say something  tell me i hate someone,, i say my criqiqe who say i hate him? i just giev critiqe ,, i cant talk abotu someone anymore with out hearing i hate him,, i dont get this thing,, i said i think he need ot do light heavy i thoguht he compete heavy so light heavy or heavy def not super heavy ,, and he just dont have the structure  needed for profesional he wil end up like palumbo if play size game ,, trust me if i hated desty i woudnt say a critiqe here , what you fella dont see it is pallumbo in the making with out the ability to get as big as palumbo since he is not that horrid of structure but ....he is going the path ,, the over all palumboizm wil be there ,, he needd to be light heavy with out tryin gto ever go super heavy ,, max he shoudl compete is as heavy ,,

if you have the physiqe you can turn profesional as light heavy even when 59 510


its about time fellas stop thinking that when i say critiqe about someone that mean i hate them,,dont hate him ,, think he has good humour ,, i talk bodybuild that is it ,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: musclecenter on November 21, 2011, 04:55:36 AM
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Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: SamsonD on November 21, 2011, 08:12:28 AM
are you fellas crazy or somethign? who hates him? ,, you cant everytime i say something  tell me i hate someone,, i say my criqiqe who say i hate him? i just giev critiqe ,, i cant talk abotu someone anymore with out hearing i hate him,, i dont get this thing,, i said i think he need ot do light heavy i thoguht he compete heavy so light heavy or heavy def not super heavy ,, and he just dont have the structure  needed for profesional he wil end up like palumbo if play size game ,, trust me if i hated desty i woudnt say a critiqe here , what you fella dont see it is pallumbo in the making with out the ability to get as big as palumbo since he is not that horrid of structure but ....he is going the path ,, the over all palumboizm wil be there ,, he needd to be light heavy with out tryin gto ever go super heavy ,, max he shoudl compete is as heavy ,,

if you have the physiqe you can turn profesional as light heavy even when 59 510


its about time fellas stop thinking that when i say critiqe about someone that mean i hate them,,dont hate him ,, think he has good humour ,, i talk bodybuild that is it ,,

gh15 approved

I didn't specifically mean just you but honestly I should know better.  Bodybuiling is a sport about peoples opinions and just because somone has something negative to say about someones physique does NOT mean they are not liked as a person.  I know better than that, thanks for calling me out.
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: Viking11 on November 21, 2011, 09:38:34 AM
I can't believe noone has brought up MAX Charles 2nd in the supers?   
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: jude2 on November 21, 2011, 05:48:26 PM
I can't believe noone has brought up MAX Charles 2nd in the supers?   
Why because he is huge and claims to eat 1 meal a day of beans and rice, preacher curls 370#, deadlifts 1000# and is all natural. ::)
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: Stavios on November 21, 2011, 06:42:23 PM
I don't understand the Dusty going down in weight class thing?  He is massive and grainy as hell right now.  He would be a skinny twink as a heavy or light heavy.  He's like 5 10 I think.  His structure is not good so that would hurt him even more at the lower weight classes wouldn't it?
I think he has to be as big and lean as possible to stand a chance of winning his card.  That would be playing to his strengths.  He's not going to get his waist down, and his quad sweep just isn't there because he isn't shaped that way.  He did lose a TON of leg size this year though, and or his upper body growth just out paced his wheels.

I don't know why you guys on getbig are so down on him?  He seems to be a pretty straight shooter and all around nice guy.  Yes he is affiliated with Dante, but Dusty doesn't really talk about drugs so even though he may not be honest about what he uses(who is), he doesn't lie either and say you need TRT and 4IU GH...

Although a different approach to things may be what he needs at this point.  Separation from Dante and TP seemed to work for Kuclo.

He did worst, he said he could make gains off the drugs
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: SamsonD on November 21, 2011, 08:38:40 PM
He did worst, he said he could make gains off the drugs

He did?  I don't think I saw that one anywhere.  He has always been tight lipped about any drug talk and never really said much except on PM that he didn't like that that was what all the talk was about over there.  He would rather talk about training and diet stuff.
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: buselmo on November 21, 2011, 08:43:17 PM
He did?  I don't think I saw that one anywhere.  He has always been tight lipped about any drug talk and never really said much except on PM that he didn't like that that was what all the talk was about over there.  He would rather talk about training and diet stuff.

you haven't seen that cuz he (and a lot of others) don't say it... but imply it through their words... something like "I don't know why people boatload on gear, can't grow, and still haven't figured it out. if someone was smart, they could make gains naturally when off gear... i've seen it happen a lot ;)"
that kind of shit... so when those people get hammered in a corner, they start with the "don't put words in my mouth, i've never said i did this and this and that"...

get it?
Title: Re: NPC Nationals - Todd Jewell wins the Men's BB Overall
Post by: SamsonD on November 21, 2011, 08:46:41 PM
Got it.  Super lame, cause everyone knows he is on boatloads.  And I'm not hating I like the guy, but come on!

Buselmo you really done at PM?  That fuck Jello locked the damn thread before I could call him out and get myself banned, LOL.  Fucking retards think everything is about them, like you wanted your shit deleted to "hurt" the forum.  What a douchebag.
Title: Re: NPC Nationals - Todd Jewell wins the Men's BB Overall
Post by: buselmo on November 21, 2011, 09:33:00 PM
Got it.  Super lame, cause everyone knows he is on boatloads.  And I'm not hating I like the guy, but come on!

Buselmo you really done at PM?  That fuck Jello locked the damn thread before I could call him out and get myself banned, LOL.  Fucking retards think everything is about them, like you wanted your shit deleted to "hurt" the forum.  What a douchebag.

i'm officially done with that place. It's good that they don't delete my posts (although i asked because i didn't want to be affiliated with that forum)... some noobs could learn a thing or two. I wouldn't trust anyone on that forum who promotes it or his business there. banning b-boy (the star of that forum, and good bro) was just the straw that broke the camels back. If someone who wants to help gets banned because he's promoting someone who talks shit about danta and sons, the agenda is obvious.

just like someone who starts yelling, thrashing, and foaming at the mouth when someone says he has an agenda then says "what agenda! i don't have an agenda! prove it!"... and all he does is say go on micky mouse doses of gear and eat 500 grams of protein, while he fucking sells protein powder and claims that other high end companies  buy from him and then says that his company is the best quality, and others are shit.
Title: Re: NPC Nationals - Todd Jewell wins the Men's BB Overall
Post by: no one on November 21, 2011, 09:52:30 PM

buselmo I went over there and read your thread.

you're a man of integrity.

integrity is a funny thing- it's something everyone wants to have and we are all capable of having it. but sometimes it's cost is what makes it priceless and a rare commodity.

Title: Re: NPC Nationals - Todd Jewell wins the Men's BB Overall
Post by: buselmo on November 21, 2011, 10:16:27 PM
buselmo I went over there and read your thread.

you're a man of integrity.

integrity is a funny thing- it's something everyone wants to have and we are all capable of having it. but sometimes it's cost is what makes it priceless and a rare commodity.



thanks bro...
I was waiting on some bros there to change their ways... but from the attitude problems and scamming that went on and got worse... I started hating that place more and more... and after banning b-boy... wow! that just pissed me off! even though it's a temporary ban... still, it's an obvious statement of "know your place, boy. and don't try to let people see throught the facade"
i'm through with bodybuilders and their scamming. anyone who doesn't give advice for free and tells the truth is an asshole and has an agenda...

I've said it once, and i'll say it again... all gurus are bullshit artists who will give you a cut and paste diet... when push comes to shove, those preachers of "500 mg is insane" will put you on 2 grams minimum and up the fat burners to an amount you've never fathomed to take.

ALL OF THEM!!! ... and they'll push their products like crazy if they sell them... something like "order this and this from me or (insert affiliate companys name here)" you say you don't need it, they say "look, if you don't want to work with me, fine! but there's no refund!"... LOOOOOOOL

and just to let you know... i'm on "micky mous cicle!" (LOL, i miss big heinz... another guy who got pushed away for telling the truth)... eating 60-150 grams of protein a day... 1-3 meals... (redbull and kinder beauno is considred a meal!LOL) ... 750 mg test, 300 mg tren, 300 mg masteron, 60 mcg T3, 120-200 mcg clen... 10 days, and i'm down 1 inch on the waist and 4 lbs while my arms are still 18.5 inches. hardness is crazy and everyone at work tells me "so, you're getting bigger, huh?"... and my wife says "your face look 'sharper'... i like it"... good ol' tren ;) ... training 3 days a week (bullshit training... just group muscles for the day and do whatever i want) and no cardio...
when if you check my log at pro muscle... you'd see what "correct diet" would do without the tren, mast, and fat burners (also, 3 hours of cardio per week)... 5 weeks and NO RESULTS...

you want a guru? i'll give you a guru...
don't eat... starve (if you already have the muscle)
no need for protein... eat any amount you want... whether it's 100 grams of 400 per day... as long as you feel comfortable
eat carbs, fat, whatever... mcdonalds... but you have to be starving yourself... less than 2000 cals no matter how much you weigh
train... anyway you want... curls with 20 lb dumbbells... dont care as long as you get tired and sweat (if the gym is cold and you're dripping sweat, you're doing great)
boatload on the cutting drugs... yes, there are cutting drugs and they are awesome! winny, tren, masteron, eq... boatload (with accordance to how much you wanna weigh when you're lean)... keep test to a minimum, cuz that bloat will kill your look.
If you have masteron in there, no need for anti-E... my gyno was flaring up and nolvadex kept it subtle when i was on the test alone... when i added masteron, gyno gone... no flaring, no nothing... also, dropped the nolva when i added masteron.
If you get tired and are psychologically fucked... go eat some fucking ice cream and pie in retarded quantities... you'll feel better, relax, and you'll want to go back to starving yourself because that diarhea is killing you from all the pie.


you wanna gain muscle? fucking eat when hungry and shoot up as much gear as you can/or are willing to. eat whatever in reasonable quantities... you get fat? add cutting drugs and lay off trying to convince yourself that you have to finish your meal even if you're stuffed.
Title: Re: NPC Nationals - Todd Jewell wins the Men's BB Overall
Post by: gh15 on November 21, 2011, 10:40:40 PM
i sugest you fellas have good memories from b boy,, use everything he tell you now ,, and enjoy time with him because he will be profesional and his ability to to give you what he gives you now will be much less,, remembeer him from these days and know that there was one fella that was doing it on his REAL NAME and put at risk his name,, he will turn pro no matter what he has too good of a physiqe ,, as logn as he stay in good health,, but just remember you cant talk under your real name when you are top pro and this is exactly what he wil be a good pro

always remember he stood for the truth! this is why he will never be ban from anywhere becaue they too know he will go places in ifbb ,, he is too much of aset to just ignore,, but alwys remember! he stood with you agsint this bunch of balonie,, so remember that

gh15 approved
Title: Re: NPC Nationals - Todd Jewell wins the Men's BB Overall
Post by: b-boy on November 22, 2011, 02:24:30 AM
i sugest you fellas have good memories from b boy,, use everything he tell you now ,, and enjoy time with him because he will be profesional and his ability to to give you what he gives you now will be much less,, remembeer him from these days and know that there was one fella that was doing it on his REAL NAME and put at risk his name,, he will turn pro no matter what he has too good of a physiqe ,, as logn as he stay in good health,, but just remember you cant talk under your real name when you are top pro and this is exactly what he wil be a good pro

always remember he stood for the truth! this is why he will never be ban from anywhere becaue they too know he will go places in ifbb ,, he is too much of aset to just ignore,, but alwys remember! he stood with you agsint this bunch of balonie,, so remember that

gh15 approved
I AM FUCKING HONORED!!!!!!!!!!!
wow!
Title: Re: NPC Nationals - Todd Jewell wins the Men's BB Overall
Post by: nosleep on November 22, 2011, 02:30:47 AM
BBOY 4 LIFE.
Title: Re: NPC Nationals
Post by: notsureifsrs on November 22, 2011, 03:56:26 AM
I don`t know much about Dusty,but from the few recent pics I`ve seen of,he`s in damned good condition.

Has some flaws to iron out,but he was ripped.

As far as his drug intake goes,it`s nobodys business but his own......I never understood the
'he`s lying" crowd when someone doesn`t discose their ILLEGAL drug use online and they`re posting under their real name.

It`s like advertising that you held up a liquor store last night!!
There is no problem as long as the bodybuilder keeps his mouth shut, the problems starts when they claim to use x amount while they are obviously using 5x amount like the drug claims with DY recently,
or when the bodybuilder claim to be natural while he's obviously not.

Title: Re: NPC Nationals - Todd Jewell wins the Men's BB Overall
Post by: wes on November 22, 2011, 04:15:02 AM
There is no problem as long as the bodybuilder keeps his mouth shut, the problems starts when they claim to use x amount while they are obviously using 5x amount like the drug claims with DY recently,
or when the bodybuilder claim to be natural while he's obviously not.


I hear ya`........should just post that he`d prefer not to discuss drugs or his cycle info.
Title: Re: NPC Nationals - Todd Jewell wins the Men's BB Overall
Post by: ironneck on November 22, 2011, 04:45:58 AM
thanks bro...
I was waiting on some bros there to change their ways... but from the attitude problems and scamming that went on and got worse... I started hating that place more and more... and after banning b-boy... wow! that just pissed me off! even though it's a temporary ban... still, it's an obvious statement of "know your place, boy. and don't try to let people see throught the facade"
i'm through with bodybuilders and their scamming. anyone who doesn't give advice for free and tells the truth is an asshole and has an agenda...

I've said it once, and i'll say it again... all gurus are bullshit artists who will give you a cut and paste diet... when push comes to shove, those preachers of "500 mg is insane" will put you on 2 grams minimum and up the fat burners to an amount you've never fathomed to take.

ALL OF THEM!!! ... and they'll push their products like crazy if they sell them... something like "order this and this from me or (insert affiliate companys name here)" you say you don't need it, they say "look, if you don't want to work with me, fine! but there's no refund!"... LOOOOOOOL

and just to let you know... i'm on "micky mous cicle!" (LOL, i miss big heinz... another guy who got pushed away for telling the truth)... eating 60-150 grams of protein a day... 1-3 meals... (redbull and kinder beauno is considred a meal!LOL) ... 750 mg test, 300 mg tren, 300 mg masteron, 60 mcg T3, 120-200 mcg clen... 10 days, and i'm down 1 inch on the waist and 4 lbs while my arms are still 18.5 inches. hardness is crazy and everyone at work tells me "so, you're getting bigger, huh?"... and my wife says "your face look 'sharper'... i like it"... good ol' tren ;) ... training 3 days a week (bullshit training... just group muscles for the day and do whatever i want) and no cardio...
when if you check my log at pro muscle... you'd see what "correct diet" would do without the tren, mast, and fat burners (also, 3 hours of cardio per week)... 5 weeks and NO RESULTS...

you want a guru? i'll give you a guru...
don't eat... starve (if you already have the muscle)
no need for protein... eat any amount you want... whether it's 100 grams of 400 per day... as long as you feel comfortable
eat carbs, fat, whatever... mcdonalds... but you have to be starving yourself... less than 2000 cals no matter how much you weigh
train... anyway you want... curls with 20 lb dumbbells... dont care as long as you get tired and sweat (if the gym is cold and you're dripping sweat, you're doing great)
boatload on the cutting drugs... yes, there are cutting drugs and they are awesome! winny, tren, masteron, eq... boatload (with accordance to how much you wanna weigh when you're lean)... keep test to a minimum, cuz that bloat will kill your look.
If you have masteron in there, no need for anti-E... my gyno was flaring up and nolvadex kept it subtle when i was on the test alone... when i added masteron, gyno gone... no flaring, no nothing... also, dropped the nolva when i added masteron.
If you get tired and are psychologically fucked... go eat some fucking ice cream and pie in retarded quantities... you'll feel better, relax, and you'll want to go back to starving yourself because that diarhea is killing you from all the pie.


you wanna gain muscle? fucking eat when hungry and shoot up as much gear as you can/or are willing to. eat whatever in reasonable quantities... you get fat? add cutting drugs and lay off trying to convince yourself that you have to finish your meal even if you're stuffed.



fucking great post and so true!
Title: Re: NPC Nationals - Todd Jewell wins the Men's BB Overall
Post by: jude2 on November 22, 2011, 07:10:18 PM
Buselmo knows his shit.
Title: Re: NPC Nationals - Todd Jewell wins the Men's BB Overall
Post by: musclecenter on November 24, 2011, 01:03:48 AM
Title: Re: NPC Nationals - Todd Jewell wins the Men's BB Overall
Post by: no one on November 24, 2011, 03:32:45 AM
big heinz has been mentioned a few times in this thread. what a great and positive guy he was. he just kinda radiated happiness.
 
shame he got ran off there. such a good guy.
Title: Re: NPC Nationals - Todd Jewell wins the Men's BB Overall
Post by: gh15 on November 24, 2011, 08:16:17 PM


im highly impres by this fella,, he is good with microphone,, extremly inteligent,, very symetric balanced ,, back need litle improvment but this fella is going far,, very very good ,, very strong looking bodybuild too,, he will be good profesional,,im impresed

gh15 approved
Title: Re: NPC Nationals - Todd Jewell wins the Men's BB Overall
Post by: 240 is Back on November 24, 2011, 08:20:31 PM
when someone gets robbed at a 3rd tier bodybuilding show, Todd Jewell might kick the shit out of them.
Title: Re: NPC Nationals - Todd Jewell wins the Men's BB Overall
Post by: jude2 on November 24, 2011, 08:28:47 PM
when someone gets robbed at a 3rd tier bodybuilding show, Todd Jewell might kick the shit out of them.
Now that will make the show more entertaining
Title: Re: NPC Nationals - Todd Jewell wins the Men's BB Overall
Post by: Stavios on November 24, 2011, 08:47:38 PM
big heinz has been mentioned a few times in this thread. what a great and positive guy he was. he just kinda radiated happiness.
 
shame he got ran off there. such a good guy.

I know right ????

I never understood the hate for Big Heinz, of course his physique is far from aesthetic but I am pretty sure the dude is huge as fuck when you seem him in the street.

He made Greg Ulyss look small onstage (even if Greg was much better) and Greg has some good size on him
Title: Re: NPC Nationals - Todd Jewell wins the Men's BB Overall
Post by: Schmoe Buster on November 24, 2011, 09:07:40 PM
Buselmo knows his shit.

Yes one of the best guys on all the internet boards, honest, knows what he's talking about, practices what he preaches and backs it up with pics.

Buselmo knows bodybuilding ;)
Title: Re: NPC Nationals - Todd Jewell wins the Men's BB Overall
Post by: Schmoe Buster on November 24, 2011, 09:10:44 PM
I know right ????

I never understood the hate for Big Heinz, of course his physique is far from aesthetic but I am pretty sure the dude is huge as fuck when you seem him in the street.

He made Greg Ulyss look small onstage (even if Greg was much better) and Greg has some good size on him

Exactly, his physique is not so bad, like you said, i bet he looks huge in his normal clothes, working out at the gym etc, guy always has that big smile on his face, im sure he's a great guy to know and train with and you can tell he really loves the iron game.
Title: Re: NPC Nationals - Todd Jewell wins the Men's BB Overall
Post by: BIG DUB on November 24, 2011, 10:18:43 PM
big heinz has been mentioned a few times in this thread. what a great and positive guy he was. he just kinda radiated happiness.
 
shame he got ran off there. such a good guy.

"No Space for the Littles" I love that tag line of his.. I remember when he posted his cycle on PM a while back, i think it's on here if you do a search. But that was a lot of shit to take and he insisted that was "normal" for what was used in his circles..Then Phil Hernon dared him to post his blood work convinced that Heinz could not be healthy taking all that shit. I was shocked when heinz actually did post his blood work full name and address and all and his numbers were perfect..