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1) Pull out of race and cite false liberal attacks
2) Stay in race, deny affair no matter how much evidence to the contrary
3) Admit he cheated, ask for forgiveness, and continue to stay in the race
4) Other...
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Stick a cigar in her twat and say "bill did it too".
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I want him to stay in....this is getting funnier and funnier watching him duck, dodge, and contradict himself.....
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IF :D :D :D :D :D :D
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4.) Other: Stay in the race--he'd fit right in in Washington.
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too late to admit it.....if he changed course now his wife would leave him and he would never be anything but dogcatcher....better to stay in the race, deny it until hell freezes over then when damning evidence comes out announce that he's quitting the race to focus on finding the the real people behind the conspiracy......worked for O.J. ::)
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Newest Cain Accuser Has History of Financial Trouble
ABC NEWS ^ | 11-28-11 | Ross
Posted on November 28, 2011 10:24:46 PM EST by VinL
Like one of his earlier accusers, the latest woman to accuse Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain of sexual misconduct has a history of financial trouble, with a threat of eviction for non-payment of rent just two weeks ago.
Ginger White, who claimed in an interview with Atlanta Fox News affiliate WAGA to have had a 13-year-affair with Cain, has liens and civil judgments in Kentucky and Georgia dating back to 1994.
Eleven of those liens have been filed since 2009, with nine in 2011. The owners of her apartment complex in Dunwoody, Georgia have sued her for non-payment of rent nearly every month since the beginning of the year.
White, a 46-year-old unemployed single mother who is at least twice divorced, was described by WAGA as an Atlanta-area businesswoman. While living in Louisville, Kentucky, she worked at Recruitment Plus, LLC. According to WAGA, she filed a sex harassment claim against an employer ten years ago, and the case was settled. The station also found a bankruptcy filing from the late 1980s.
In January, there is a scheduled court date in an unrelated civil suit filed against her by a former business partner, Kimberly Vay, who alleges that White stalked and harassed her and had sought a protective order. A judge has entered a default judgment in Vay's favor. [snip]
(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...
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33,
Let's say you're worth 2 or 3 million bucks.
You love yourself, and you have a job where people kiss your ass all day for money.
You work in restaurant industry, where a lot of people with minimal education and minimal skills interact with you.
These be hard times.
Now, do you want a mistress that makes 100k a year (good luck finding one lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Or do you want a chick you can show up and bang anytime you want (she ain't at work) and leave a grand on the kitchen table and she loves ya forever for it?
If i was a rich CEO, and I wanted to get my duck wet, I'm choosing the broke chicks. And theyre way more available, desperate and willing.
So 33, I don't buy into this. IMO, rich dudes PREFER a broke mistress. And broke mistresses are way easier to find than those who are making good money- cause things that go with being financially successful are family, stability, etc.
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33,
Let's say you're worth 2 or 3 million bucks.
You love yourself, and you have a job where people kiss your ass all day for money.
You work in restaurant industry, where a lot of people with minimal education and minimal skills interact with you.
These be hard times.
Now, do you want a mistress that makes 100k a year (good luck finding one lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Or do you want a chick you can show up and bang anytime you want (she ain't at work) and leave a grand on the kitchen table and she loves ya forever for it?
If i was a rich CEO, and I wanted to get my duck wet, I'm choosing the broke chicks. And theyre way more available, desperate and willing.
So 33, I don't buy into this. IMO, rich dudes PREFER a broke mistress. And broke mistresses are way easier to find than those who are making good money- cause things that go with being financially successful are family, stability, etc.
I think you are giving Cain too much credit here....he probably left maybe $50 bucks ;D
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Newest Cain Accuser Has History of Financial Trouble
ABC NEWS ^ | 11-28-11 | Ross
Posted on November 28, 2011 10:24:46 PM EST by VinL
Like one of his earlier accusers, the latest woman to accuse Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain of sexual misconduct has a history of financial trouble, with a threat of eviction for non-payment of rent just two weeks ago.
Ginger White, who claimed in an interview with Atlanta Fox News affiliate WAGA to have had a 13-year-affair with Cain, has liens and civil judgments in Kentucky and Georgia dating back to 1994.
Eleven of those liens have been filed since 2009, with nine in 2011. The owners of her apartment complex in Dunwoody, Georgia have sued her for non-payment of rent nearly every month since the beginning of the year.
White, a 46-year-old unemployed single mother who is at least twice divorced, was described by WAGA as an Atlanta-area businesswoman. While living in Louisville, Kentucky, she worked at Recruitment Plus, LLC. According to WAGA, she filed a sex harassment claim against an employer ten years ago, and the case was settled. The station also found a bankruptcy filing from the late 1980s.
In January, there is a scheduled court date in an unrelated civil suit filed against her by a former business partner, Kimberly Vay, who alleges that White stalked and harassed her and had sought a protective order. A judge has entered a default judgment in Vay's favor. [snip]
(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...
Means nothing in this case. When the number of accuser exceeds 5 then there is obviously some truth.
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Means nothing in this case. When the number of accuser exceeds 5 then there is obviously some truth.
Your counts are WAY OFF. The two from NRA (Kraushaar and another anonymous one) were "settled" or got severance payments for PEANUTS (compared to typical harassment judgments of $300,000 back in the 90s). To this day, we still don't know what Cain supposedly did to Kraushaar.
The other anonymous one didn't file anything. So her account is worthless (the fact that her story was broken by a Perry campaign staffer or Perry PAC member is a bit suspcious).
Sharon Bialek has been exposed as a broke gold-digger, whose story fell apart when her fiance' turned out to be her EX-FIANCE (the whole purpose of touting him was to prove that Bialek wasn't doing this for money). Plus, she was seen schmoozing with Cain a month prior, described as being "flirtatious" and hugging Cain.
Who hugs a guy 14 years later, who allegedly almost raped her and nearly forced her to blow him to get her job back? Throw in her screwing her boss and having a kid with him and her rep, according to former CBS co-workers (along with her convenient association with Gloria Allred) and there goes Bialek's credibility.
Now comes Ginger White.
Surprise, surprise.....she's broke!
Surprise, surprise.....she has a history of questionable and frivolous lawsuits
Surprise, surprise.....like the other accusers, this conveniently happened ONLY duirng Cain's NRA tenure.
Surprise, surprise.....she got sued for libel AND LOST!
Normally, whorish men have a trail of booty a mile long, throughout their career. The fact that all of these cases come ONLY during Cain's schtick with the NRA is a tad curious.
Unless Cain actually did what he stands accused of doing, this smells of a continued hack job.
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61 text messages or phone calls. 4:26 AM, huh? LMAO...
Classic MCWAY defense, I was looking fwd to reading it :)
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61 text messages or phone calls. 4:26 AM, huh? LMAO...
Classic MCWAY defense, I was looking fwd to reading it :)
Classic 240's lapse of judgment.
Didn't a former business partner of White SUE HER for stalking, which included LOTS OF E-MAILS and TEXTS?
Didn't White get sued for LIBEL and LOSE in court?
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Whether its fair or not - this is distracting from our need to defeat obama.
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Whether its fair or not - this is distracting from our need to defeat obama.
EXACTLY!!
And that's what this mess is designed to do: Destroy the GOP candidates, to grease the skids for Obama's re-election.
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Whether its fair or not - this is distracting from our need to defeat obama.
Cain has a history of accusations - two women paid off 14 years ago.
So why would he continue to give all of these women the ammo to "frame" him?
I mean, once you have to leave the rest CEO job early, because of the 100 grand they had to pay because of your flirting...
Why the hell do you ever text a chick at 4 am, after that?
Cain's team said it all here, though. "It's not harassment or assault, so it doesn't matter..."
Cain should have stuck with that logic. He looked at CNN and denied an affair. Only a few ppl believe him now.
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If he would have waited until he was in office (to have an affair) would the Left-leaning voters care ???
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If he would have waited until he was in office (to have an affair) would the Left-leaning voters care?
I don't care that arnold hooked up. I don't care if anyone hooks up.
I care if they look me in the eye and LIE about it.
I care if their team manages this terribly - it shows he will manage BIGGER crisis in a poor way.
I care if the guy is so mentally soft that he delivers obvious lies.
That's some low IQ shit there. I want a shrewd dude running the white house, ya know? Someone who can handle his own against Putin and the like. Not someone who can't outwit Wolf Blitzer. Reminds me of Palin trying to explain her foreign policy crediential because she was situated near Russia. Just an outright, obviously false tall tale... I don't want a leader like that, ya know?
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Cain has a history of accusations - two women paid off 14 years ago.
Accusations, found by an investigation to be FALSE. Hence the two women got severance deals. Explain again why, in an era when women were averaging $300,000 in harassment cases (winning two-thirds of the time) why their "payoffs" were a mere collective $81,000.
So why would he continue to give all of these women the ammo to "frame" him?
I mean, once you have to leave the rest CEO job early, because of the 100 grand they had to pay because of your flirting...
Why the hell do you ever text a chick at 4 am, after that?
Cain's team said it all here, though. "It's not harassment or assault, so it doesn't matter..."
Cain should have stuck with that logic. He looked at CNN and denied an affair. Only a few ppl believe him now.
Yet, had Cain done so, you'd be blabbling (as you were earlier) that Cain should be screaming from the rooftops that he's innocent (if he actually is). Now that he's done so, you're complaining about how he's handling the situation.
Make up your mind. Either Cain should state his innocence or he shouldn't.
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If he would have waited until he was in office (to have an affair) would the Left-leaning voters care ???
He should have stuck a cigar in her twat and everything would have been fine.
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I don't care that arnold hooked up. I don't care if anyone hooks up.
I care if they look me in the eye and LIE about it.
I care if their team manages this terribly - it shows he will manage BIGGER crisis in a poor way.
I care if the guy is so mentally soft that he delivers obvious lies.
That's some low IQ shit there. I want a shrewd dude running the white house, ya know? Someone who can handle his own against Putin and the like. Not someone who can't outwit Wolf Blitzer. Reminds me of Palin trying to explain her foreign policy crediential because she was situated near Russia. Just an outright, obviously false tall tale... I don't want a leader like that, ya know?
You want a shrwed dude in the White House? YOU VOTED FOR OBAMA! Quite frankly, you're in no position to question any candidate about competence, after all the kneepadding you've done for "the Messiah" over the last three years.
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I don't care that arnold hooked up. I don't care if anyone hooks up.
I care if they look me in the eye and LIE about it.
I care if their team manages this terribly - it shows he will manage BIGGER crisis in a poor way.
I care if the guy is so mentally soft that he delivers obvious lies.
That's some low IQ shit there. I want a shrewd dude running the white house, ya know? Someone who can handle his own against Putin and the like. Not someone who can't outwit Wolf Blitzer. Reminds me of Palin trying to explain her foreign policy crediential because she was situated near Russia. Just an outright, obviously false tall tale... I don't want a leader like that, ya know?
I don't think Cain has a chance anymore....who knows I don't follow Politics as closely as some but it seems like he's done...could be wrong of course. But of course I'm comparing this to Clinton who did his thing and lied about it. I don't remember specific poster's responses to that but it seems like some were saying they could care less about it. I wonder if those people care about this and why.....is it just disdain for the person w/the opposite party affiliation?
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Accusations, found by an investigation to be FALSE.
Wasn't the investigation run by Cain's underlings?
And why did they pay $100 grand to two people with FALSE charges?
And why did Cain leave his contract immediately after, before it expired?
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Wasn't the investigation run by Cain's underlings?
NOPE!! Cain reclused himself and the Board of Directors did it. One former member of that board vouched for Cain.
And why did they pay $100 grand to two people with FALSE charges?
One, it was only $81,000.
Two, sexual harassment suits can run a company an average of $250,000. So, if your company finds the charges against its CEO to be false or "baseless", are you going to blow HALF-A-MILLION DOLLARS to take it court and endure MONTHS of bad PR? Or (assuming these were actual harassment settlements vs. severance packages, as the other anonymous accuser had other issues leading to her depature), do you give these women $81,000 and tell them to kick rocks?
And why did Cain leave his contract immediately after, before it expired?
He left a couple of months early, as I recall. He cited personal reasons.
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McWay I believe you and I have a bet regarding Cain coming to a close.
I believe the results and outcome of our bet is pretty clear cut. What say you?
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I don't think Cain has a chance anymore....who knows I don't follow Politics as closely as some but it seems like he's done...could be wrong of course. But of course I'm comparing this to Clinton who did his thing and lied about it. I don't remember specific poster's responses to that but it seems like some were saying they could care less about it. I wonder if those people care about this and why.....is it just disdain for the person w/the opposite party affiliation?
There was hard evidence to nail Clinton. He simply got a pass, because he's a liberal.
There was hard evidence to nail Weiner. He tried lying through it and accused Andrew Brietbart of trying to frame him. He initially got a pass, too. But, when simply asked if the pics were of him, he ducked the question. And the alternative media pounded him on it (as did a few in the mainstream media), until he cracked.
We have no hard evidence on Cain. Thus far, we have two severace deals or settlements (depending on who you ask), in which BOTH women signed a deal, citing no admission of liabilty to the NRA regarding their claims.
And, if Cain were the "monster" that Karen Kraushaar (one of the NRA accusers) claims he is, one wonder why she didn't fight this in court, with a 67% chance of winning (and taking home an average of $300,000).
Of course, Sharon Bialek may answer that, as she's lost in court multiple times and ended up BURIED in legal fees.
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McWay I believe you and I have a bet regarding Cain coming to a close.
I believe the results and outcome of our bet is pretty clear cut. What say you?
I say these accusations (coupled with his Libya gaffe) have wounded Cain's campaign signficantly.
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I say these accusations (coupled with his Libya gaffe) have wounded Cain's campaign signficantly.
While correct, that was not our bet.
One of us correctly predicted this four weeks ago.
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I say these accusations (coupled with his Libya gaffe) have wounded Cain's campaign signficantly.
also the CHina nuke gaffe.
also the "We need a leader, not a reader" idiocy.
also the "ubeki-beki-beki-stan" mocking.
also the getting secret service to avoid reporter questions.
also he sent booty call tests at 4 am.
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While correct, that was not our bet.
One of us correctly predicted this four weeks ago.
I'm aware of what the bet is. Your question was "What say you?"
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Want to settle the bet now? I think the conclusion is pretty clear. It won't change by this Friday which is the four week deadline.
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Want to settle the bet now? I think the conclusion is pretty clear. It won't change by this Friday which is the four week deadline.
He's dropped by 7 points, as was the spread I gave. So, you were correct in your assessment.
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Accusations, found by an investigation to be FALSE.
do you have a link to a statement from the NRA where they said they investigated these allegations and found them to be false?
if they have been proven to be false claims and without merit this entire thing would be a non-story
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do you have a link to a statement from the NRA where they said they investigated these allegations and found them to be false?
if they have been proven to be false claims and without merit this entire thing would be a non-story
The statement is from Kraushaar's lawyer (courtesy of CNN), who acknowledged NRA's investigation but criticized its effectiveness. I posted that some time ago.
Sexual harassment is never a non-story. It was the vagueness of the claims by the accusers, despite NRA's clearing them to talk, that made the issue somewhat mild.
Then came Bialek and her wild claims, with no evidence to back them. And, now we have White.
This sounds eerily similar to what happened to Meg Whitman. By the time we found out the truth (i.e. that maid was lying her tail off), Whitman's campaign had been destroyed.
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EXACTLY!!
And that's what this mess is designed to do: Destroy the GOP candidates, to grease the skids for Obama's re-election.
you're becoming as nutty as 3333..what the HELL happened to you man???
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Thank you MCWAY.
He's dropped by 7 points, as was the spread I gave. So, you were correct in your assessment.
Let it be known that MCWAY is a man of his word who stands by his bets.
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Thank you MCWAY.
Let it be known that MCWAY is a man of his word who stands by his bets.
I guess he only tells the truth when he bets...he's delusional all other times
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I guess he only tells the truth when he bets...he's delusional all other times
That's funny! I could have sworn that I say that Obama has had at least 9% unemployment for 30 of his 34 months in office and that his bungling led his party to the worst beating in over 70 years.
That's the truth, Andre.
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That's funny! I could have sworn that I say that Obama has had at least 9% unemployment for 30 of his 34 months in office and that his bungling led his party to the worst beating in over 70 years.
That's the truth, Andre.
obama sucks, so obviously cain is telling the truth!
hahahahahah funnier than a surprise cumshot.
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obama sucks, so obviously cain is telling the truth!
hahahahahah funnier than a surprise cumshot.
What's funny is your 3-year kneepadding, followed by this feigned outrage.
Let's see. Should I believe Herman Cain or Ginger White (a woman sued for libel, slander, and harassment, who LOST in court)?
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What's funny is your 3-year kneepadding, followed by this feigned outrage.
Let's see. Should I believe Herman Cain or Ginger White (a woman sued for libel, slander, and harassment, who LOST in court)?
I belive his ass should be explaining texts to her at 4:26AM lol....
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The statement is from Kraushaar's lawyer (courtesy of CNN), who acknowledged NRA's investigation but criticized its effectiveness. I posted that some time ago.
Sexual harassment is never a non-story. It was the vagueness of the claims by the accusers, despite NRA's clearing them to talk, that made the issue somewhat mild.
Then came Bialek and her wild claims, with no evidence to back them. And, now we have White.
This sounds eerily similar to what happened to Meg Whitman. By the time we found out the truth (i.e. that maid was lying her tail off), Whitman's campaign had been destroyed.
I haven't kept track of all these women
did the NRA ever say they did an investigation and concluded "the accusations were false"?
I can't recall reading that but I'm not following this like you are (actually, I"m not following it at all)
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What's funny is your 3-year kneepadding, followed by this feigned outrage.
Let's see. Should I believe Herman Cain or Ginger White (a woman sued for libel, slander, and harassment, who LOST in court)?
McWay...you and I have been fighting since my legendary "THE TOTAL, ABSOLUTE, NO BULLSHIT TRUTH ABOUT SUPPLEMENTS" thread from four years ago.....I always found you to be very intelligent about most matters even when we were on opposite sides....but you seem to have really lost it and your thinking has gotten cloudy due to your extreme partisanship....
It really bothers me that you are getting destroyed in this thread....can't you see that these women didn't just pop up out of nowhere to defame Cain?....what would be their motive in that???..to expose themselves to ridicule???
I will admit I am bothered by the Ms. White's allegations because as his mistress, she should not have come out with this because she hurt his wife more than anything....
But you can't keep your head in the sand hoping these allegations go away and are not true....you are worse than Cain if you do
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McWay...you and I have been fighting since my legendary "THE TOTAL, ABSOLUTE, NO BULLSHIT TRUTH ABOUT SUPPLEMENTS" thread from four years ago.....I always found you to be very intelligent about most matters even when we were on opposite sides....but you seem to have really lost it and your thinking has gotten cloudy due to your extreme partisanship....
It really bothers me that you are getting destroyed in this thread....can't you see that these women didn't just pop up out of nowhere to defame Cain?....what would be their motive in that???..to expose themselves to ridicule???
I will admit I am bothered by the Ms. White's allegations because as his mistress, she should not have come out with this because she hurt his wife more than anything....
But you can't keep your head in the sand hoping these allegations go away and are not true....you are worse than Cain if you do
Motives? Let's see! Two of them are BROKE!! Could $$$$ be a motive?
We later learn that three of them (Kraushaar, Bialek, and White) have a history of harassment suits. White has been sued for libel and harassment and has LOST.
As for the women not just popping out of nowhere, where were they when Cain first started his campaign? Or when Cain ran for Senate?
They pop up only when Cain becomes the front-runner. A wee bit too convenient for my taste.
And, as stated earlier, one need look only a year back and see what happened to Meg Whitman. When she became a major threat to beat Jerry Brown for governor of CA, conveniently this maid comes up with this sob story of how cruel Whitman treated her.
It turns out, she was lying through her teeth (she was an illegal alien who stole someone's SSN and falsified government documents to get employed, represented by Gloria Allred). But, the media ignored that and ripped Whitman to shreds. By the time the truth really surfaced, Whitman was toast.
Now, you expect me to believe a woman WHO IS NOTORIOUS FOR LIBEL, SLANDER, and HARASSMENT (her former business partner almost got a restraining order against her) that she's been having an affair with Herman Cain. As I've maintained, unless some cold hard evidence comes to light, I give the benefit to Cain.
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at the same time, we could say "looks lik Cain is turned on by broke, troubled women".
Hell, do we know of any successful, stable women who would be cool with being a side dish for 13 years?
I mean, maybe Cain prefers a poor chick to dating a bank president, who knows?
If I was going to keep a mistress, methinks a low-maintenance chick that I could bump a few grand a year to - and have ass on demand anytime I wanted to splurge for a plane ticket - would be superb. You start something with a chick with a masters degree and she won't be standing for this side dish shit.
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who gives a shit if he had an affair? are we electing the president of the celibacy club? No?? Then what the fuck does it matter if he's had sex with other people, who cares, people should instead focus on his policies and the policies of other presidential candidates but seems as though that's the last thing anyone cares about in an election
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Motives? Let's see! Two of them are BROKE!! Could $$$$ be a motive?
We later learn that three of them (Kraushaar, Bialek, and White) have a history of harassment suits. White has been sued for libel and harassment and has LOST.
As for the women not just popping out of nowhere, where were they when Cain first started his campaign? Or when Cain ran for Senate?
They pop up only when Cain becomes the front-runner. A wee bit too convenient for my taste.
And, as stated earlier, one need look only a year back and see what happened to Meg Whitman. When she became a major threat to beat Jerry Brown for governor of CA, conveniently this maid comes up with this sob story of how cruel Whitman treated her.
It turns out, she was lying through her teeth (she was an illegal alien who stole someone's SSN and falsified government documents to get employed, represented by Gloria Allred). But, the media ignored that and ripped Whitman to shreds. By the time the truth really surfaced, Whitman was toast.
Now, you expect me to believe a woman WHO IS NOTORIOUS FOR LIBEL, SLANDER, and HARASSMENT (her former business partner almost got a restraining order against her) that she's been having an affair with Herman Cain. As I've maintained, unless some cold hard evidence comes to light, I give the benefit to Cain.
men don't call female "friends" at 4 in the morning......thats booty call hour....you know this Mcway
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who gives a shit if he had an affair? are we electing the president of the celibacy club? No?? Then what the fuck does it matter if he's had sex with other people, who cares, people should instead focus on his policies and the policies of other presidential candidates but seems as though that's the last thing anyone cares about in an election
it doesn't matter to me at all...its all the lying and not being able to control his women...thats the problem..if you want to be a playa you gotta keep your women in check....he should have met with Ms. White beforehand, sweet-talked her, fucked her some more and then gave her some hush money
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"IF" my Aunt had a penis she'd be my uncle.
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it doesn't matter to me at all...its all the lying and not being able to control his women...thats the problem..if you want to be a playa you gotta keep your women in check....he should have met with Ms. White beforehand, sweet-talked her, fucked her some more and then gave her some hush money
Cain's a lucky beta who thinks he's a true alpha.
He's had some good breaks, but he's not Arnold Caliber. No way.
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Cain's a lucky beta who thinks he's a true alpha.
He's had some good breaks, but he's not Arnold Caliber. No way.
I believe you on this...he sees himself as an alpha thug who can control da bitches! ;)
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"IF" my Aunt had a penis she'd be my uncle.
Would you like her more then?