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Title: Tebow - NFL MVP or is it the Denver Defense
Post by: 240 is Back on December 04, 2011, 01:47:12 PM
Okay, it sounds crazy that the least accurate starting QB in football be considered.

But he's 6-1 as a starter.  He's the top representative of the league.  He's the consummate overachiever and great for the NFL.

Title: Re: Tebow for NFL MVP
Post by: mogulgangi on December 04, 2011, 01:48:41 PM
dude you know nothing about football...take tebows fist out of your ass
Title: Re: Tebow for NFL MVP
Post by: Wiggs on December 04, 2011, 01:49:40 PM
I'm putting 100 bucks on the Broncos to win it all.....just in case....
I wonder what the odds are?
Title: Re: Tebow for NFL MVP
Post by: tbombz on December 04, 2011, 01:50:40 PM
he looked great today. very impressed by him. least accurate? made plenty of amazing throws on the run.
Title: Re: Tebow for NFL MVP
Post by: Nails on December 04, 2011, 01:52:45 PM
The lord is strong in this one
Title: Re: Tebow for NFL MVP
Post by: YoungBlood on December 04, 2011, 02:12:12 PM
dude you know nothing about football...take tebows fist out of your ass

Enlighten us oh Great One....

I don't think he should win MVP; but the kid is doing what he is getting paid to do-and something very few people thought he could-and that's WIN.
Title: Re: Tebow for NFL MVP
Post by: 240 is Back on December 04, 2011, 02:14:40 PM
I don't think he's durable long-term.... if he gets injured and gets down to 90%, he will suck.  Peyton Manning or Brady at 90% can still get you to the super bowl.

But for the 1 magical season, if he ends up going 10-2 or whatever, maybe a playoff win... he's certainly the feelgood story of the league.  Everybody hates brady, manning is hurt, aaron rodgers has those crazy googly eyes...

Why not tebow?
Title: Re: Tebow for NFL MVP
Post by: Hulkotron on December 04, 2011, 02:20:29 PM
His opponents are not praying hard enough.
Title: Re: Tebow for NFL MVP
Post by: YoungBlood on December 04, 2011, 02:32:42 PM
Everybody hates brady, manning is hurt, aaron rodgers has those crazy googly eyes...

Why not tebow?

Who hates Brady and why? Never heard that! And Rogers? The guy is on a record pace and the best you come up with is his eyes?!

As for Tebow, I don't mind the guy and I am rooting for him. But just for shits & giggles the reaons I say 'not Tebow' is because he's  an over the top religious nut.
Title: Re: Tebow for NFL MVP
Post by: Hulkotron on December 04, 2011, 02:34:27 PM
Who hates Brady and why? Never heard that!

Do you live in Boston?
Title: Re: Tebow for NFL MVP
Post by: njanvi on December 04, 2011, 02:36:33 PM
As for Tebow, I don't mind the guy and I am rooting for him. But just for shits & giggles the reaons I say 'not Tebow' is because he's  an over the top religious nut.

That's a dumb ass statement! I don't think he should win it, but who gives a fuck if he a nut?
Wtf does that have to do with his play on the field ???
Title: Re: Tebow for NFL MVP
Post by: YoungBlood on December 04, 2011, 02:46:36 PM
Do you live in Boston?

Completely wrong coast.
Title: Re: Tebow for NFL MVP
Post by: YoungBlood on December 04, 2011, 02:47:58 PM
That's a dumb ass statement! I don't think he should win it, but who gives a fuck if he a nut?
Wtf does that have to do with his play on the field ???

Just shut the fuck up until you can comprehend a full sentence fucktard.
Title: Re: Tebow for NFL MVP
Post by: njanvi on December 04, 2011, 02:48:50 PM
Just shut the fuck up until you can comprehend a full sentence fucktard.

Ok retard
Title: Re: Tebow for NFL MVP
Post by: Shockwave on December 04, 2011, 02:51:40 PM
Who hates Brady and why? Never heard that! And Rogers? The guy is on a record pace and the best you come up with is his eyes?!

As for Tebow, I don't mind the guy and I am rooting for him. But just for shits & giggles the reaons I say 'not Tebow' is because he's  an over the top religious nut.
Same thing here.
Only people I know who hate Brady are mad because they were sick of him winning, or he kicked their teams ass all the time (or just jealous he was such a BAMF and their team sucked).

I was west coast too, now am in Texas. So maybe its an east coast thing?
Title: Re: Tebow for NFL MVP
Post by: YoungBlood on December 04, 2011, 03:01:45 PM
Ok retard

That the best you got? You suck as much as your comprehension does.
Title: Re: Tebow for NFL MVP
Post by: Benito Mutumbo on December 04, 2011, 04:01:46 PM
Maybe not MVP...yet.

But he sure looks destined for the pro-bowl whether his detractors like it or not.
Title: Re: Tebow for NFL MVP
Post by: muscle19 on December 04, 2011, 04:27:21 PM
MOST VALUABLE PLAYER... who can you name thats more valuable to their team than Tebow (maybe Manning since the colts cant win without him lol) I doubt he will win it but he has my vote
Title: Re: Tebow for NFL MVP
Post by: The_Infidel on December 04, 2011, 04:58:30 PM
It should go to Peyton Manning.  From a 10 plus win superbowl contender for the last decade to a 0-12 with no other major changes.  Before this year the only snap Manning missed was fumbled by the backup, now this.  lol.  Peyton Manning 2011 MVP.
Title: Re: Tebow for NFL MVP
Post by: 240 is Back on December 06, 2011, 07:07:00 AM
63% of people in LA believe Tebow is the MVP.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2011/12/tim-tebow-nfl-mvp-denver-broncos.html

Title: Re: Tebow for NFL MVP
Post by: seCrawler on December 06, 2011, 07:55:39 AM
Build an offense around him like they did in Florida, just have him slide if he is going to run, given he'll get the yards away like other running QBs.  Denver has an entire off-season for this, should have done this his rookie year.  And stop fucking with his throwing motion.  Guy completed 15-20 for 2TDs.  Vick and Vince Young arent going to win a passing competition either.  
Title: Re: Tebow for NFL MVP
Post by: MCWAY on December 06, 2011, 08:47:58 AM
What I don't get is why defenses can stop him from running for half to three-quarters of a game. Yet, when they keep him in the pocket, his receivers end up WIDE OPEN!!
Title: Re: Tebow for NFL MVP
Post by: arce1988 on December 06, 2011, 12:39:15 PM
option will get him nearly killed
Title: Re: Tebow for NFL MVP
Post by: Nails on December 06, 2011, 01:10:20 PM
option will get him nearly killed

Title: Re: Tebow for NFL MVP
Post by: reppingfor20 on December 06, 2011, 01:14:03 PM
What I don't get is why defenses can stop him from running for half to three-quarters of a game. Yet, when they keep him in the pocket, his receivers end up WIDE OPEN!!

They run a very weird offense that NFL defenses haven't figured out how to completely stop yet, so they are expecting run, and when you switch to pass deep there is an open man, the corner is left sleeping because Tebow hasn't thrown to his man he is covering all game lol.

Title: Tebow has done nothing - its the Denver defense...
Post by: mogulgangi on December 06, 2011, 02:45:26 PM
tebow has done NOTHING people....its all about the DENVER DEFENSE...
tebows magical christian run has been against horrible teams...

what john fox and his offensive coordinator has accomplished is turning the offense to a video game offense.anyone with real football knowledge knows that tebow is runnig out of time...no real direction of game plan other than "run and shoot the shit out of tebow until till we think the defense is only going for the run after the 30th consecutive run play and lets just hope we can get a pass off then..John fox's current offensive passing system consists of tebow running out of the pocket and throwing it to the first receiver who breaks his route...

i have watched every single game since tebow has been a starter.if denver did not have the defense it has tebow woulda been passing out communion way long ago. he is the worst pocket passer i have ever witness, jesus is really doing him a favor..he is the worst 3rd down converter, worst redzone qb (least amount of TDs)..

should i keep going
Title: Re: tebows magical christian run has been against horrible teams...
Post by: BiGHer on December 06, 2011, 02:49:16 PM
As much as I agree with you and I am not a Denver fan in anyway, at this point, he's winning games... That's all that matters.  Until his true colors show, he will be praised, and we all need to just deal with it and bite our tounges.
Title: Re: tebows magical christian run has been against horrible teams...
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 06, 2011, 03:00:04 PM
Waiting to see the athiest shitstorm when Denver loses a game (rolling eyes)
Title: Re: tebows magical christian run has been against horrible teams...
Post by: mogulgangi on December 06, 2011, 03:02:45 PM
Waiting to see the athiest shitstorm when Denver loses a game (rolling eyes)

LOL...john elway is currently funding athiest organization to uproar a celebration when tebow loses again...

Title: Re: tebows magical christian run has been against horrible teams...
Post by: wild willie on December 06, 2011, 03:02:51 PM
let's see.....with tebow at the helm....the broncos have won their last 5 games....are you saying there are 5 HORRIBLE teams in the nfl?

get off it....the guy is a winner....period....para graph.
Title: Re: tebows magical christian run has been against horrible teams...
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 06, 2011, 03:10:19 PM
Yeah...not concerned with Elway but I'm sure Tebow is praying for his soul..lol.
Title: Re: tebows magical christian run has been against horrible teams...
Post by: Benito Mutumbo on December 06, 2011, 03:13:44 PM
Meltdown
Title: Re: tebows magical christian run has been against horrible teams...
Post by: Nails on December 06, 2011, 03:17:37 PM





(http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/gallery/haters-gonna-hate/haters-gonna-hate-monkey-big-balls.jpg)



Title: Re: tebows magical christian run has been against horrible teams...
Post by: King Shizzo on December 06, 2011, 03:20:52 PM
We will see in a couple of weeks when he has to play my team (Patriots) If he can win that one, then I will be impressed. He is doing a good job though.
Title: Re: tebows magical christian run has been against horrible teams...
Post by: buffdnet on December 06, 2011, 03:21:16 PM
while over 25,000 children die of starvation and
preventible diseases every day,  thank you jeebus for my
steroids and that awesomeness pass i just made.
r'amen
Title: Re: tebows magical christian run has been against horrible teams...
Post by: tonymctones on December 06, 2011, 03:23:07 PM
LOL at the ignorant morons who bring cant get past the fact he believes in Christ and is a success.

I guess liberal tolerance is only for ideas and viewpoints you idiots agree with huh?

Now as for Tebow he isnt a great qb, he has a lot of passion and that will go along way but he will crumble when he plays a good team same thing that vince young does.

Im sorry to tell the op and his cohorts though that this wont harm his faith or the faith of others.
Title: Re: tebows magical christian run has been against horrible teams...
Post by: tonymctones on December 06, 2011, 03:23:52 PM
while over 25,000 children die of starvation and
preventible diseases every day,  thank you jeebus for my
steroids and that awesomeness pass i just made.
r'amen
yes b/c the Lord promised utopia on earth didnt he?

oh wait he didnt

Title: Re: tebows magical christian run has been against horrible teams...
Post by: Natural Man on December 06, 2011, 03:27:51 PM
LOL at the ignorant morons who bring cant get past the fact he believes in Christ and is a success.

I guess liberal tolerance is only for ideas and viewpoints you idiots agree with huh?

Now as for Tebow he isnt a great qb, he has a lot of passion and that will go along way but he will crumble when he plays a good team same thing that vince young does.

Im sorry to tell the op and his cohorts though that this wont harm his faith or the faith of others.
Indifference to christianism has turned into full blown hate from atheists.
The result of decades of socialo communism in most occidental (white) countries. The same atheists who knee before angry islamists everytime they ask for a new right.
Also funny considering Christianism built everything that sustains western social and material infrastructures. Basically, self hate.
Title: Re: tebows magical christian run has been against horrible teams...
Post by: RustyTrenbolona on December 06, 2011, 03:30:29 PM
yes b/c the Lord promised utopia on earth didnt he?

oh wait he didnt



so he only promises utopias to certain quarterbacks and the rest of the starving miserable wretches get to die left and right? cool God. maybe they should have prayed harder. ::)
Title: Re: tebows magical christian run has been against horrible teams...
Post by: tonymctones on December 06, 2011, 03:31:39 PM
Indifference to christianism has turned into full blown hate from atheists.
The result of decades of socialo communism in most occidental (white) countries. The same atheists who knee before angry islamists everytime they ask for a new right.
quoted for truth.

whats funny is they yell for tolerance of islam, homosexuality, nationality, immigration etc yet are perfectly ok with hating on this guy simply b/c he promotes his Christian faith.

Didnt see alot of hate on vince young, how about cam newton?

hmm whats the difference I wonder?

YAY!!!! Tolerance from the left, only meant to be extended to those ideas they agree with.
Title: Re: tebows magical christian run has been against horrible teams...
Post by: RustyTrenbolona on December 06, 2011, 03:34:35 PM
Indifference to christianism has turned into full blown hate from atheists.
The result of decades of socialo communism in most occidental (white) countries. The same atheists who knee before angry islamists everytime they ask for a new right.
Also funny considering Christianism built everything that sustains western social and material infrastructures. Basically, self hate.

not indifferance. many appreciate what christianity has brought...culture, learning, etc. but by now we realize the other side of the coin. some realize that blindly following anything, religion or otherwise, is small minded.
Title: Re: tebows magical christian run has been against horrible teams...
Post by: tonymctones on December 06, 2011, 03:34:58 PM
so he only promises utopias to certain quarterbacks and the rest of the starving miserable wretches get to die left and right? cool God. maybe they should have prayed harder. ::)
LOL yea tebow lives in a utopia, nevermind all that hard work he has done over his life and continues to do, nevermind the opportunities he has seen and capitalized on.

I wont sit here and try to postulate the reasoning behind the events of the world, they are beyond me and beyond you believe it or not.

What I will do is try to make the world better, something most religious ppl believe in doing.

Title: Re: tebows magical christian run has been against horrible teams...
Post by: RustyTrenbolona on December 06, 2011, 03:36:00 PM
quoted for truth.

whats funny is they yell for tolerance of islam, homosexuality, nationality, immigration etc yet are perfectly ok with hating on this guy simply b/c he promotes his Christian faith.

Didnt see alot of hate on vince young, how about cam newton?

hmm whats the difference I wonder?

YAY!!!! Tolerance from the left, only meant to be extended to those ideas they agree with.


excellent oversimplified blanketstatement spoken like a true butthurt "christian"
Title: Re: tebows magical christian run has been against horrible teams...
Post by: tonymctones on December 06, 2011, 03:37:08 PM
not indifferance. many appreciate what christianity has brought...culture, learning, etc. but by now we realize the other side of the coin. some realize that blindly following anything, religion or otherwise, is small minded.
Agreed, at the same time flip that coin back over and you have ppl who blindly follow science

I hope you dont blindly follow science either

but I wouldnt be surpised if you do ;)
Title: Re: tebows magical christian run has been against horrible teams...
Post by: Natural Man on December 06, 2011, 03:37:58 PM
Science without the supervision of Faith leads to genocides.
Title: Re: tebows magical christian run has been against horrible teams...
Post by: ChristopherA on December 06, 2011, 03:42:23 PM
We will see in a couple of weeks when he has to play my team (Patriots) If he can win that one, then I will be impressed. He is doing a good job though.
Yeah buddy, go Pats!! They are gonna stomp a mudhole in tebow's hide. You from NE?
Title: Re: tebows magical christian run has been against horrible teams...
Post by: tonymctones on December 06, 2011, 03:42:44 PM

excellent oversimplified blanketstatement spoken like a true butthurt "christian"
LOL this is the G&O man oversimplified blanket statements is what this board is meant for.

If you would like to have a serious conversation on faith and religion then I would be more than happy to do so. You would probably be pleasently surprised as you like others the op of this thread included seem to take a negative view of someone as soon as you find out they are a person faith.
Title: Re: tebows magical christian run has been against horrible teams...
Post by: buffdnet on December 06, 2011, 03:43:20 PM
religion is like a big cock
it's nice to have one
it's ok to show it off a little
but when you attempt to shove it down my throat
that's taking it too far. 
I don't hate any religious people or anyone who claims
some faith.  i consider each and every one of you to be
delusional homophobic morons equally.
(http://suzyspellcheck.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/pope.jpg)
Title: Re: tebows magical christian run has been against horrible teams...
Post by: King Shizzo on December 06, 2011, 03:45:19 PM
Yeah buddy, go Pats!! They are gonna stomp a mudhole in tebow's hide. You from NE?
No, but I can't help who I like  ;D  Been a fan ever since I started watching football.  Father is from NY, mother is from Mass. if that helps.
Title: Re: tebows magical christian run has been against horrible teams...
Post by: RustyTrenbolona on December 06, 2011, 03:45:35 PM
Agreed, at the same time flip that coin back over and you have ppl who blindly follow science

I hope you dont blindly follow science either

but I wouldnt be surpised if you do ;)

no, i dont, everything in balance. but for any man to assume that God is behind his success is like believing the toothfairy is behind leaving a nickel under a pillow. What an arrogant way to think... that god himself has any interest in indibidual human success. does god set tebows alarm clock in the morning too?

I also have no problem with any religion as long as i dont have to hear about it 24/7. And dont forget, were tebow an atheist and reminded us that god had nothing to ddo with his success in everyinterview the NFL would hav told him to get lost.
Title: Re: tebows magical christian run has been against horrible teams...
Post by: tonymctones on December 06, 2011, 03:47:09 PM
religion is like a big cock
it's nice to have one
it's ok to show it off a little
but when you attempt to shove it down my throat
that's taking it too far.  
I don't hate any religious people or anyone who claims
some faith.  i consider each and every one of you to be
delusional homophobic morons equally.
(http://suzyspellcheck.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/pope.jpg)
I feel the same way about the fairies who march and yell and the idiots who yell for them...

But

nobody is forcing you to watch the tv, turn the fucking channel moron...
Title: Re: tebows magical christian run has been against horrible teams...
Post by: tonymctones on December 06, 2011, 03:50:31 PM
no, i dont, everything in balance. but for any man to assume that God is behind his success is like believing the toothfairy is behind leaving a nickel under a pillow. What an arrogant way to think... that god himself has any interest in indibidual human success. does god set tebows alarm clock in the morning too?

I also have no problem with any religion as long as i dont have to hear about it 24/7. And dont forget, were tebow an atheist and reminded us that god had nothing to ddo with his success in everyinterview the NFL would hav told him to get lost.
I think you misunderstand the point that tebow is making, he is thankful to God for giving him the opportunity, the ability, the platform in which to reach ppl.

Good point about the atheist, doesnt really matter though as moral equivilency arguments are idiotic and pointless.

doesnt matter what would happen or did happen in another situation that doesnt make the reaction to tebow right...

if you disagree with that treatment if it was an atheist, then you logically should disagree with it now.

Doesnt matter what other ppl would do.
Title: Re: tebows magical christian run has been against horrible teams...
Post by: tonymctones on December 06, 2011, 03:52:22 PM
P.S. I have brady on my fantasy team and week one of my playoff run is when he plays tebow.

I hope he throws 5 td's lol
Title: Re: tebows magical christian run has been against horrible teams...
Post by: buffdnet on December 06, 2011, 04:07:00 PM
turn the fucking channel moron...
thank you
Title: Re: tebows magical christian run has been against horrible teams...
Post by: RustyTrenbolona on December 06, 2011, 04:17:50 PM
I think you misunderstand the point that tebow is making, he is thankful to God for giving him the opportunity, the ability, the platform in which to reach ppl.

Good point about the atheist, doesnt really matter though as moral equivilency arguments are idiotic and pointless.

doesnt matter what would happen or did happen in another situation that doesnt make the reaction to tebow right...

if you disagree with that treatment if it was an atheist, then you logically should disagree with it now.

Doesnt matter what other ppl would do.

impossible to have a converstion based on reason, sense, and empathy with a "christian" shame i gotta change the channel for the post game interview when i wanna hear his thoughts on the game not 90 secs of his religious views. your basically admitting every you denied he is doing: using his spotlight to spout religuion when earlier you wanted us to just be happy for the guy and his love of God lol.
Title: Re: Tebow has done nothing - its the Denver defense...
Post by: MCWAY on December 06, 2011, 04:26:58 PM
tebow has done NOTHING people....its all about the DENVER DEFENSE...
tebows magical christian run has been against horrible teams...

what john fox and his offensive coordinator has accomplished is turning the offense to a video game offense.anyone with real football knowledge knows that tebow is runnig out of time...no real direction of game plan other than "run and shoot the shit out of tebow until till we think the defense is only going for the run after the 30th consecutive run play and lets just hope we can get a pass off then..John fox's current offensive passing system consists of tebow running out of the pocket and throwing it to the first receiver who breaks his route...

i have watched every single game since tebow has been a starter.if denver did not have the defense it has tebow woulda been passing out communion way long ago. he is the worst pocket passer i have ever witness, jesus is really doing him a favor..he is the worst 3rd down converter, worst redzone qb (least amount of TDs)..

should i keep going

You can start by explaining where this awesome Denver defense was when KYLE ORTON was the starter.

Let me help you: they were giving up WAY more points per game, while the offense was scoring fewer points.

Tebow and the Bronocs have won FIVE straight (and six out of seven). And, lest you whine about "horrible teams", two of those wins were against squads with winning records. Plus, good teams beat the teams they're supposed to be, remember?

The Broncos beat the Vikings. And, they're in first place, because the Raiders got the lips slapped off their faces by the Dolphins.





Title: Re: Tebow - NFL MVP or is it the Denver Defense
Post by: tonymctones on December 06, 2011, 05:29:41 PM
impossible to have a converstion based on reason, sense, and empathy with a "christian" shame i gotta change the channel for the post game interview when i wanna hear his thoughts on the game not 90 secs of his religious views. your basically admitting every you denied he is doing: using his spotlight to spout religuion when earlier you wanted us to just be happy for the guy and his love of God lol.
LOL just as I thought...youre not looking for a rational discusssion at all simply looking to bash a guy b/c of his views.

Where did I deny that he was using his position to promote his faith?

Title: Re: Tebow - NFL MVP or is it the Denver Defense
Post by: Wiggs on December 06, 2011, 05:47:43 PM
Its a combo of both. Denver D usually does well at keeping the score low (not last Sunday). This allows Tebow who doesnt throw picks, or turn the ball over to thrive in the 4th quarter.
Denver was 1-4 to start the season, where was the defense then? As soon as Tebow steps in the team is 7-1.
Tebow is a large reason they are the way they are.
Title: Re: Tebow - NFL MVP or is it the Denver Defense
Post by: King Shizzo on December 06, 2011, 05:51:47 PM
Its a combo of both. Denver D usually does well at keeping the score low (not last Sunday). This allows Tebow who doesnt throw picks, or turn the ball over to thrive in the 4th quarter.
Denver was 1-4 to start the season, where was the defense then? As soon as Tebow steps in the team is 7-1.
Tebow is a large reason they are the way they are.
He will have no prayer (pun intended) against a high-powered offense.  (Packers, Saints, Patriots) Teams like the Ravens and Steelers would crush him like a can as well.
Title: Re: tebows magical christian run has been against horrible teams...
Post by: reppingfor20 on December 06, 2011, 06:02:19 PM
Science without the supervision of Faith leads to genocides.

hahha, compare how many ppl have died in genocides to how many people have died in wars caused by religion.

Title: Re: Tebow - NFL MVP or is it the Denver Defense
Post by: MCWAY on December 06, 2011, 06:17:05 PM
He will have no prayer (pun intended) against a high-powered offense.  (Packers, Saints, Patriots) Teams like the Ravens and Steelers would crush him like a can as well.

The Ravens tend to play down to their competition. They sweep Pittsburgh, then got embarrassed on MNF by the Jaguars.