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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: gh15 on December 04, 2011, 06:05:31 PM
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everyone kep ask what the diff betwen pharm grade gh and generic gh ,, i will once and for all put the diff for the human eye,, notice the picture of a pharm grade gh user,, serostim ,, kigtropin,, etc
the following picture represent the look of the skin and muscle on legit pharm grade gh ,, notice ..low water and veins are pronounced the skin is shrink warped into muscle and take the shape of the muscle thus make you feel and look liek superman no matter if you 200lb or 250lb
with generic gh there wil be more water between skin and muscle,, it will still be 3 dimentional like this picture but the water betwen skin and muscle wil be higher percentge thus giving the ilusion of being less sharp and less conditioned ,,
size wil be same regardless but! condition is where the gh will show diff,, while on gh this is where you wil notice the diff between pharm grade level and good generic,, bad generics ofcourse = bunk ,, what i talk about is diff in look between pharm grade and good generics which is mainly water retention between skin and muscle
a pharm grade level gh such as serostim kigtropin humatrope will result in this type of look to physiqe VERY FAST ,, ofcourse you need to be in decent shape to begin with and on aas
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diuretics are not involved in this pic?
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How much does that cost?
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this level eveyrthing involved,, but! this is a look resulted mainly from usage of human growth hormone pharm grade,, good generics will be similar but not this sharp,,only on the purest gh you grow lean and even though blow up from inside you shrink wrap into your own skin aka you see veins getting clearer while you get biger,, its unheard of unless on legit pharm grade gh ,, with good generics it will be close but more water between skin and muscle,,both will give 3 dimentional look ofcourse since i talk about legit gh
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How much does that cost?
some can pay 1000 dolaros for 100 iu ,, some can pay 700 some can be 100,, all depend where the pharm grade gh come from ,, china as of now has only one gh i aprove as pharm grade and it is kigtropin ,, i may approve hygtropin but i need to see consistancy with factory
the americano and europian pharm grade gh involve much tax for goverment ,, the gh cost nothing it is the goverment fee that bring it up to 1000 dolaros
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Man look at those garden hose veins in his arms. Must be easy to take blood from that guy ;D
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lee priest is a good example too. very full muscle bellies, thin skin and extreme vascularity
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liar priest is cadavar build ,, it is diff mutaititon ,, true mutatiion that iwll stay there for ever ,, it is form young age it is bone disformed ,, the muscle will go bye bye but the bone will always be fucked ,, it is diff with liar priest and quite few others,, liar priest STOPED AT NOTHING nad could never become mr o his dream ,, he never became it but did everythign possible from very young age,, he failed in the war won few bottles,, and lied all along
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all i can tel you about liar priest is that he had aces to lots of gh ,, LOTS AND LOTS OF GH ,, his nails grw so fast it was mater of 48 hour and he could walk on walls ,, today you fellas say you need to cut nails evern 5-6 day lol with pharm grade level it is every 2 day ,,your nails always grow ,, your hands always look leaner moe veineir more mature and more manly while growing and growing all other places of body,, both good generic gh does it and pharm grade does it but pharm grade does it much faster
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Wow Liar priest had some sick muscle bellies back in the day. To bad he completely ruined himself with all those retarded tattoos.
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some can pay 1000 dolaros for 100 iu ,, some can pay 700 some can be 100,, all depend where the pharm grade gh come from ,, china as of now has only one gh i aprove as pharm grade and it is kigtropin ,, i may approve hygtropin but i need to see consistancy with factory
the americano and europian pharm grade gh involve much tax for goverment ,, the gh cost nothing it is the goverment fee that bring it up to 1000 dolaros
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what about thanktropin?
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what about it? legit gh
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Where would you say Ronnie is in terms of dosage here?
30iu?
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as much as you can bufet,, you just pump in the gh ,,it realy no rocket science
notice from self exprience friends...
5 iu get you to speicfic QUALITATIVE size... key word is qualitative ,, aka conditioned size
7-8 iu get you to specific size...
10 iu get you to specific size...
15 iu ...
20 iu ....
25 iu .....
30 iu....
34-36 iu ...usualy maxed after that
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If I were to use 36 iu for, say, 100 days straight and I was 210 lbs 10%, where would I end up after 100 days? Assuming also some AAS in system.
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his nails grw so fast it was mater of 48 hour and he could walk on walls ,,
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Funny shit!! LOL ;D
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Hey gh00: you're a coward and a liar. Fuck off and die.
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what did lee priest lie about? i know all those ifbb pro lie, but just wondering why he got nickname liar priest
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what did lee priest lie about? i know all those ifbb pro lie, but just wondering why he got nickname liar priest
I believe Lee claimed he did low doses in the offseason...
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If I were to use 36 iu for, say, 100 days straight and I was 210 lbs 10%, where would I end up after 100 days? Assuming also some AAS in system.
you would quit in middle,, you don tjust jump on 30 iu gh..you reach there,, its like military ,,you win some batles and then....you ready for the war,,you need to get to a point wherre body is ready with everything,,you start with 7 go up to 15....go to 20+ and then if you end up being profesional .....you pull it to 30+ also depend on your ability to be good pro ,, 30 iu = organ grow and everythign grow bone everything you become a diff life form ,,its nto only muscle grow it is everything and it is noticable ,,look in ronie face and head....diff fella than what he started as ,,but he atleast ws 8 times mr o and millioner so its worth it
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Hey pieceofshit15 tell us some more children's lies about making phone calls to Washington to save Victor Martinez.
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I believe Lee claimed he did low doses in the offseason...
haha, i don't know if that's better or worse than dex jackson saying he was all natural. dorian made up some bullshit low dose cycle too, saying he did less than a gram a week ::)
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Hey pieceofshit15 tell us some more children's lies about making phone calls to Washington to save Victor Martinez.
You’re a mean one Mr. Grinch
You really are a heel.
You're as cuddly as a cactus,
And as charming as an eel,
Mr. Grinch!
You're a bad banana,
With a greasy black peel!
You're a monster, Mr. Grinch!
Your heart's an empty hole.
Your brain is full of spiders.
You've got garlic in your soul,
Mr. Grinch!
I wouldn't touch you
With a thirty-nine-and-a-half foot pole!
You're a vile one, Mr. Grinch!
You have termites in your smile.
You have all the tender sweetness
Of a seasick crocodile,
Mr. Grinch!
Given the choice between the two of you,
I'd take the seasick crocodile!
You're a foul one, Mr. Grinch!
You're a nasty, wasty skunk!
Your heart is full of unwashed socks.
Your soul is full of gunk,
Mr. Grinch!
The three words that best describe you
Are as follows, and I quote,
"Stink, stank, stunk!"
You're a rotter, Mr. Grinch!
You're the king of sinful sots!
Your heart's a dead tomato,
Splotched with moldy, purple spots,
Mr. Grinch!
Your soul is an apalling dump-heap,
Overflowing with the most disgraceful
assortment of deplorable rubbish imaginable,
Mangled-up in tangled-up knots!
You nauseate me, Mr. Grinch!
With a nauseous super naus!
You're a crooked jerky jockey,
And you drive a crooked hoss,
Mr. Grinch!
You're a three-decker sauerkraut
and toadstool sandwich,
With arsenic sauce!
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haha, i don't know if that's better or worse than dex jackson saying he was all natural. dorian made up some bullshit low dose cycle too, saying he did less than a gram a week ::)
Dorian said he did less than a gram a week of test... BIG DIFFERENCE.
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^ only posting evr where my spelling is top notch friends,, mark it down as history lol
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What about when fucktard15 lied and said he is instrumental in helping Victor Martinez beat his case, even though he's still locked up and heading for a felony indictment.
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i said his case is very hard,, repetdly ,, but he may stay in americana ,, i cant elaorate more,, it is hard case they want him out very much with more than wha tyou are told
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Bullshit. He's going to prison then he's getting deported. Liar15.
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lol this lex guy makes me laugh.. lots of anger
your life must be really shitty eh ? ::) :-\
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Bullshit. He's going to prison then he's getting deported. Liar15.
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Yes that's why I lash out against successful members of the bodybuilding industry and call them "liars". I do this anonymously, telling everyone I'm a top 6 Olympia contender. In my spare time I save dogs and illegal alien coke dealers. I'm real angry. c
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I heard black market chinese GH can lead to colon cancer later in life, just something to think about.
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Yes that's why I lash out against successful members of the bodybuilding industry and call them "liars". I do this anonymously, telling everyone I'm a top 6 Olympia contender. In my spare time I save dogs and illegal alien coke dealers. I'm real angry. c
you talk about anonymous and look at you LOL
you are one of the biggest jokes on getbig.. they should get rid of retards like you who need gimmicks in order to boost their online ego because you have a reputation to keep for whatever reason and I am starting to believe that you have a low self esteem.. you take this place way too serious into your own life.. and I doubt you have many friends if any
the internet is a SERIOUS place i guess right ? ;)
::) ::)
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for Lex LONER Reeves:
Girls and sons who have not been loved by their fathers seek attention once teens and adults to compensate for what they didnt have originally. Fathers either left them alone, or were distant most of the time and not encouraging them. Some even despised them which would shape their personality and the way they d interact with others for the rest of their life.
They are extremistic in everything they do, always looking exageratly for attention, and have troubles adapting to society's rules, because they also have troubles defining their own identity and respecting authority and hierarchy.
Also boys who got picked on by others during childhood and adolescence -often sons without a father figure- try to compensate by lifting weights, to develop muscles and survive in ther male world. They re insecure because they re girly, childish, feminine having been raised by a single mom. They lift obsessively hoping it will transform them into men, to compensate for their lack of influence from a father figure that was not there. Unfortunaltey they can get as big as they can it doesnt cure their insecurity and who they truly are, how they grew up being raised by a single mom. They re no as manly as other men whatever they do, and they often have a big lack of masculine presence they dont know how to balance, hence often being borderline homosexuals while trying to get their manhood back thru various manly activities (mma, cars, weight lifting etc). They are often the ones that, in order to get respect from other males will go the steroids route to get even "bigger" attemptint to cure their insecurity , but being natural not being "enough", they still feel "too small", insecure, amongst other males. The lack of a father figure also often means they didnt have guidance to continue studies and are often working shitty manual jobs.
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Dorian said he did less than a gram a week of test... BIG DIFFERENCE.
yeah but in the same sentence he said "can't believe the dosages people are using now" implying he barely used any steroids. he also stated his cycle in MD magazine, it was like, 152gr tren a week on top of like 600gr test. it was such obvious bull shit
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what do you think superman's dosage is to be able to shoulder press that helicopter? he must be using some alien pharm grade gh at 30iu a day with 150mg eod alien trenbolone
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Yes that's why I lash out against successful members of the bodybuilding industry and call them "liars". I do this anonymously, telling everyone I'm a top 6 Olympia contender. In my spare time I save dogs and illegal alien coke dealers. I'm real angry. c
Another TA gimmick
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about victor..how did he not got deported when he was arrested for recieving steriods in the mail...he did time in jail. wouldn't this come up them if he was an illegal
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everyone kep ask what the diff betwen pharm grade gh and generic gh ,, i will once and for all put the diff for the human eye,, notice the picture of a pharm grade gh user,, serostim ,, kigtropin,, etc
the following picture represent the look of the skin and muscle on legit pharm grade gh ,, notice ..low water and veins are pronounced the skin is shrink warped into muscle and take the shape of the muscle thus make you feel and look liek superman no matter if you 200lb or 250lb
with generic gh there wil be more water between skin and muscle,, it will still be 3 dimentional like this picture but the water betwen skin and muscle wil be higher percentge thus giving the ilusion of being less sharp and less conditioned ,,
Why is this?? I have never looked into GH. I did some generic Chinese for x6 months about x5 years ago, but nothing before or since then.
I know nothing about GH, I thought that GH, is GH, Test suspension is just water & Test crystals, there are about x4 different brands that you can get. Is the UG suspension at 25mg per ml any less viable (I would have thought not, hence my reasoning for thinking that GH, was GH, if it was legit).
so what is the difference between pharma & generic??
PT
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^ only posting evr where my spelling is top notch friends,, mark it down as history lol
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hate to tell you gh15 that is not good spelling lol
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What gh was dennis newman on
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hate to tell you gh15 that is not good spelling lol
lol,, well i tried lol its a song copy pasting lol
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Why is this?? I have never looked into GH. I did some generic Chinese for x6 months about x5 years ago, but nothing before or since then.
I know nothing about GH, I thought that GH, is GH, Test suspension is just water & Test crystals, there are about x4 different brands that you can get. Is the UG suspension at 25mg per ml any less viable (I would have thought not, hence my reasoning for thinking that GH, was GH, if it was legit).
so what is the difference between pharma & generic??
PT
gh is nto like aas,, even aas there is diff purity but with gh it is much diff,, the purity level mater big time,, 10-15% diff in gh purity is noticable bgi time,, even few % is noticable to the expericne eye,,
over all the less pure gh is the more water retention you will have between skin and muscle,, it also depend on the filler ofcourse,, its a combo of both but filer are mostly same
when it is 5-10% diff its nto such a big deal ...but when it is 20% diff you talk here about night and day ,, and the gh can be legit but its stil night and day
when it come to gh you look into 2 things,,
1, how much water it make you retain between skin and muscle
2, does it give you 3 dimentinal look ,,aka more surface on delts ,, pecs,, everywhere... while tightening midsection
the lowesr the gh level is as in lower purity ...the more ius you will need to use iinorder to get similar result to pharm grade level ...and even then if you use same ius...you will still hold more wter retention thus you will end up with 3 dimentional look since gh will be legit but! water between skin and muscle will be higher thus blowing you up while blurring your lines... this shoudl go down week 4-5 if gh is good and legit but with pharm grade level of the highest purity you wont have this problem since you wont hold alot of water it wil be minimal and will fade away week 4-5 but it wont be even close to the 5-10lb water you will have on generic gh that is not pharm grade level
gh is not the same ,, but if i approve gh it mean the gh is legit and FINALY RESULT wil be the same after couple months,,especialy when going off the gh ,, but while on the gh first coupel months there will be diff in your look ,, on pharm level gh you will be conditione dconditioned conditined getting more detailed by the day .... with legit generic you will look 3 dimentional too but.... it will have more water cary between skin and muscle making you appear less conditioned,, and both ! are legit gh
then you have bunk gh which is nothing but filler and anti diuretic and sometime insulin ,, this is big problem but most fellas in china are not that crazy yet ,, some send this balonie out but its not majority its minority
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You’re a mean one Mr. Grinch
You really are a heel.
You're as cuddly as a cactus,
And as charming as an eel,
Mr. Grinch!
You're a bad banana,
With a greasy black peel!
You're a monster, Mr. Grinch!
Your heart's an empty hole.
Your brain is full of spiders.
You've got garlic in your soul,
Mr. Grinch!
I wouldn't touch you
With a thirty-nine-and-a-half foot pole!
You're a vile one, Mr. Grinch!
You have termites in your smile.
You have all the tender sweetness
Of a seasick crocodile,
Mr. Grinch!
Given the choice between the two of you,
I'd take the seasick crocodile!
You're a foul one, Mr. Grinch!
You're a nasty, wasty skunk!
Your heart is full of unwashed socks.
Your soul is full of gunk,
Mr. Grinch!
The three words that best describe you
Are as follows, and I quote,
"Stink, stank, stunk!"
You're a rotter, Mr. Grinch!
You're the king of sinful sots!
Your heart's a dead tomato,
Splotched with moldy, purple spots,
Mr. Grinch!
Your soul is an apalling dump-heap,
Overflowing with the most disgraceful
assortment of deplorable rubbish imaginable,
Mangled-up in tangled-up knots!
You nauseate me, Mr. Grinch!
With a nauseous super naus!
You're a crooked jerky jockey,
And you drive a crooked hoss,
Mr. Grinch!
You're a three-decker sauerkraut
and toadstool sandwich,
With arsenic sauce!
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;D Me likey!!
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LOL AT GH15 TROLLING WITH SONGS.
ANYWAYS, YOU THINK RAMPING UP GH LIKE THIS IS GOOD
4-6-8-10-12-15 IU?
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10iu straight upto 15iu gives you a heavy head and for first few days good bit water retention which balances itself out quickly
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so jay cutler uses generic HGH?
he always has thick looking skin and no major vascularity in his arms
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some can pay 1000 dolaros for 100 iu ,, some can pay 700 some can be 100,, all depend where the pharm grade gh come from ,, china as of now has only one gh i aprove as pharm grade and it is kigtropin ,, i may approve hygtropin but i need to see consistancy with factory
the americano and europian pharm grade gh involve much tax for goverment ,, the gh cost nothing it is the goverment fee that bring it up to 1000 dolaros
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so at least 7 dolaros per iu?
and to be pro level at least 15 iu a day, that means at least $735 a week on HGH alone? then all the roids, the food the this the that
wow these guys must be shitting money
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HGH isn't that expensive...
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haha You dont reallt think anyone is paying more then 1.2 - 1.5 USD for a GH unit (except idiots who know nothing)?
Good quality GH costs less then 1USD per unit and usually much less then that. Test suspension or enth. costs just above 1USD per ml. So when you are using 10IU GH and 1gram a test and some tren ace you are paying only +-300USD a month. 300USD a month to be a beast is cheap as hell.
Smoking, drinking or otherwise buying useless shit in walmart is much more expensive then this. And people wonder where big guys get all that money from.
pretty much
when you cancell cell phone, internet, going out to clubs, car then you probably don't feel it financially
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what did lee priest lie about? i know all those ifbb pro lie, but just wondering why he got nickname liar priest
because he is one...
i havent even heard of them..i have heard of igf-1....but know nothing of pgf or mgf.....i dont get that scientific.....been at this 28 years...pro 18..i keep it basic..stick to basic in small amounts.....use dont abuse.......plus i am no scientist..i stick with what i have used and works for me.......
it's all about longevity...i have seen so many next big things come and go....and see alot of new ones coming up i give 5 years and then they are gone.....sad when you have guys in their 20s looking like they are over 40
Yes i dont go over 400 mgs in a shot of anything....more isnt better....i wish guys would learn this.....its crazy the amounts some guys use....some amatures are using way more then the pros it's scary...
Here let me help you guys out
right now
enanthate 250 mgs a week
deca 200 mgs a week
cyp 250 mgs a week now
1 anapalon
now i take this for 5 weeks then change cut out cyp ...so hope this helps and stop the guessing
I dont i would rather a pro post what they take..and the amount then the garbage i read..would rather hear the truth then these large amounts they read the ngo take and abuse it.........like i said you cant win..people post shit then when someone comes in and tells the truth you say..oh you shouldnt do that...ok sorry ..go ahead and believe the large amounts and go abuse it......fuck me...some poeple will never learn...when i started we never even talked about drugs wasnt in mags didnt have boards online...we just fucking trained hard ate alot rested took supps and that was it..my how things have changed everyone wants the easy way out..well news flash there is none ..there i am done posting on this topic....seems some of you know more then i do... cause you are all pro competing in the pro shows etc....
Always small amount..will do that for 5 weeks cut some out add something else in for last 5 weeksetc...when i used gh i neevr went over 4iu aday ..didnt notice anything from it so dont bother with it..never touched insulin.never would.....then after show off till time for next contest prep..wich can be 6 months or more...dosent bother me ....see i have never relied on it...sure i use at contest time to help cause i am dieting ..training twice as much cardio 2-3 times aday but like i said not large amounts its stupid your wasting money and probaly not good for your health..use dont abuse.....but when not in contest mode just train hard and eat ......
AND NO THAT WAS A WEEK...I TRY TAKE THE LEAST SHOTS I CAN....MORE ISNT BETTER WHEN WILL PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THIS.....
Ok one more time and for you Victorian guy...i have used..tren,prop,para,deca etc....i have used gh last time i used gh was years ago..i used 4iu...yes i went higher once 8iu and didnt notice anything different from when i was doing 4 iu..so i stayed at 4iu...and never done insulin.......I dont claim shit i would never mention it..but i am sick of you fuckin idiots coming on here saying this is what pros take..maybe some do and some dont we are all different all i can tell you is what i have used and amounts plain and simple...Why would i lie....fuck i dont care if you know what i take..if i took 3 bottles a week i would say so ..i dont give a fuck if you know...but sorry i dont...people ask i answer with the trtuh of what i have done..i know..my wife knows...my friends know..training partner knows...all can tell you same story..Mike Yablon he is on here he lived with me ...ask him he saw what i took..he gave me my shots....go ahead he has my permission to say exactly what he saw....so sick of the shit talkers on here who dont know shit.....but keep going your stories of high usage are pretty amusing...but so way off.....
Victorian guy ,..you show proof of what i take then..i dont need to prove anything..that burben is on you buddy...so show me the proof of what i take...i have never once said i was drug free or natural from day one i have always said what i take....your an idiot and we have proof of that...
That is correct Mike.....1 aday on tab...
Ok here is cycle i was following....this is my cycle ..it isnt here for others to follow....Only difference is the ones that say every 4 days i do every 5....tren i do every 4....proviron i am not taking or halo....So here is cycle i was given..I dont follow it to the letter i use it as a guide....THIS IS END OF STORY FROM ME.....THIS IS A 16 WEEK CYCLE...
16 to 9 weeks out. 250mlTest Cyp, 350mlTest Enth, 200mlDecca every 6 days, 2-4ius Gh a day, 50mlg Anapolan a day, 20mlg Nolvadex a day.
14 weeks out start Clen, takeing 6 tabs a day, 2 days on, 2 days off and so on.
9 to 7 weeks 200mlDecca,200mlTest Enth, every 6 days, 200ml Mastron every 4 days, 1 Anapolon a day, 1 Nolvadex a day, Keep Clen as normal. 1 proviron morning, 1 at night.
7-3 weeks out 150ml Test Prop Mon, Wed, Fri, 50ml Win-V Tues, Thurs, Sat, 200ml Tren Ace every 3 days, 1 Anapolon a day, 20mlg Nolvadex aday, 1 proviron morning, 1 at night. Clen as normal eg 6 a day 2 on 2 off.
3-2 weeks out, 100ml Test Prop Mon, Wed, Fri, 50mlg Win-V Tues, Thurs, Sat, 200ml Tren Ace every 4 days, 1 Proviron Morning, 1 night, 1 Arimadex a day, 20mlg Nolvadex a day. 25mlg Anavar a day, 25-30mlg Halo a day. Clen as normal
2 weeks out Stop GH.
10 days out Stop Tren and Prop. Keep every thing else the same
7 days out Stop Win-V and swap over to Oral win 30mlg a day, keep all othe orals the same, right up to show day.
We may use a little T-3 3-4 WEEKS OUT 30-40MCG A DAY.
Never felt the need to....and its about longevity...to me taking insulin isnt worth it.......once i went up to 800mgs of test a week for 2-3 weeks and felt like shit....so the large amounts never interested me...or steriods in general..i love to train and all..but to me drugs and not like the holy grail like they are to some..and i was happy competing placing where i did using what i did......but yes i thought about it and use to say hey what about if i go all out for one year etc...but then i thought..nah not worth it....from the 90s i am still here
Like i said Mike from day one my life is open book..I have always answered honestly when asked questions and like i said it has got me in trouble..but it's who i am...I dont care what people think I am not changing...we know this goes on in the sport ...we wrote about in the mags all the time...If they dont want it in the sport then the IFBB needs to enoforce their drug policy they have.......More pros need to be honest..and stop all the bullshit and lies in the sport..be upfront with the fans...it isnt hard to do...I like how they can sit their and just flat out lie about this issues and other things..but hey that's on them...and i dont want to hear but if they admit to it their sponsors will drop them..come on like the sponsors like Muscletech,Gaspari,BSN etc dont know their athletes take steriods...what world are you living in...If they didnt want their athletes to take steriods then drug test them every month or two simple.....but i don't see why they can get mad if their athlete says yes they have used when asked the question about it be honest educate people on it stop these stupid rumors about large amounts etc
For the last 6 years or more i dont do offseason cycle i just eat...and only took for 12-16 weeks before show..that one i posted is 16 cycle leading up to contest.......offseason i just train hard and eat alot.....and that has worked well for me..gives the whole body a good rest....when younger i would do contest cycle then one offseason one......i have never stayed on all the time dont believe in that at all....
Glad you people like the thread...
Yes offseason is totaly different to contest time..with diet ,more training,cardio etc..but offseason i...this is me ..i just dont feel like i need it...i have never had that mentality that i cant train without it.....but contest prep different game there......Yeah be great if other amda athletes put up their cycles before the MR O....be intresting to see....
peopel need to be honest..until they drug test this sport..we know it's being used sponsor know it's being used....so be honest people when asked.........some people dont like to mention the big elephant in the room huh?
Ok let me start of by saying Frank your a fuckin cockhead..you know nothing
1 i am not dependant on steriods i go off for months and years at a time no problem it dosen't bother me..i was off for 3 years and guess what i didnt lose muscle...must suck being you thou...you dont seem to get it even if the guy like myself,ronnie,markus,jay..if they all stopped using but kept training hard everyday and eating they will still have muscle and look good.....come down to genetics...something you lack and brain cells
2 if they drug tested shows i am fine with that also....
3..25 years on gear...wrong try 19 on and off....lets see i won first 3 shows at 13 years old...Mr Australia at 17,18,19....and then at 19 just before i turned 20 i used deca.....so i won many shows without it..but then when you turn pro(something you will never know) you have to take them to be in the game..do i like that no i have always said i wish we didnt..but until the sport drugs tests they will be there.....
So no it's not confonting to me at all to be off....i a mtotaly fine with it..anymore bullshit remarks you need help with....all your post since you joined are shit and total garbage...but you must get a hard cock coming on here talking your shit on computer....you want to have a talk about it..you ca nfind where i will be and chat in person ...i have no problem chatting with you one on one about all your concerns with me and the sport.....
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You must give Lee Priest some credit.
He started talking about steroids in interviews around 2001 or before.
At that time who spoked so openly about it? No one?
What if he lied about dose/drugs regimen? When everyone claimed beeing natural he admitted using drugs.
Today is easy to call him a liar but 10 years ago he was giving a huge step towards the truth.
Plus he had a nice physique, not a side-effect powerplant.
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You must give Lee Priest some credit.
He started talking about steroids in interviews around 2001 or before.
At that time who spoked so openly about it? No one?
What if he lied about dose/drugs regimen? When everyone claimed beeing natural he admitted using drugs.
Today is easy to call him a liar but 10 years ago he was giving a huge step towards the truth.
Plus he had a nice physique, not a side-effect powerplant.
As long as you multiply the doses he talks about, he's pretty candid.
It's hard to open up that can of worms too. Some people lie all together and say they're natural, but then you have guys like Priest saying he uses a thimble of test every fortnight and a smidgen of winstrol a couple of times during his contest prep. At least he's admitting, but it's still kind of hard to digest that bullshit.
I guess now that he's said all that he kind of has to stick to his guns. He can't say that his base is 2g of test, that he runs a gram of trenbologna and NPP year-round, cycling in other anabolics in the gram range too with orals and dozens of units of GH a day at a bare minimum.
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you know whens someone tells you their life is an open book, they're lying
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i am not dependant on steriods i go off for months and years at a time no problem it dosen't bother me..i was off for 3 years and guess what i didnt lose muscle...must suck being you thou...you dont seem to get it even if the guy like myself,ronnie,markus,jay..if they all stopped using but kept training hard everyday and eating they will still have muscle and look good.....come down to genetics...something you lack and brain cells
he seems semi-cool in most of those quotes, but this is where he's just out of his mind saying he can be off gear for three years and not loose mass. lol
i was off FOR SIX MONTHS only after my second cycle. i lost 40lbs of muscle. GIVE ME A BREAK.
and i love how he tries to act like he just has some super-human genetics... bull shit ::)
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i stopped reading the usual gh15 crap when i saw that he reckoned he could tell the difference between pharm grad gh and cadaver gh- by looking at Ronnie and Lee.
you are so full of shit gh15.
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i stopped reading the usual gh15 crap when i saw that he reckoned he could tell the difference between pharm grad gh and cadaver gh- by looking at Ronnie and Lee.
you are so full of shit gh15.
or that with pharma gh you get 90% water inside muscle 10% between skin and muscle and with chinese generic you get like 55%inside muscle 45% between skin... wtf lol im sure its one of team nasser retards posting shits. the post that are true are the posts nasser told him to write.. and 50% is bullcrap written by a camel riding homo
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i stopped reading the usual gh15 crap when i saw that he reckoned he could tell the difference between pharm grad gh and cadaver gh- by looking at Ronnie and Lee.
you are so full of shit gh15.
lol cadaver gh huh? don't you think that sounds a little impractical considering only about 1 mg is salvaged from each cadaver? and since synthetic gh is biologically equivalent anyway?
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^ only posting evr where my spelling is top notch friends,, mark it down as history lol
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Back on your old posts (right back) your English was fine, it has got worse ha
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he seems semi-cool in most of those quotes, but this is where he's just out of his mind saying he can be off gear for three years and not loose mass. lol
i was off FOR SIX MONTHS only after my second cycle. i lost 40lbs of muscle. GIVE ME A BREAK.
and i love how he tries to act like he just has some super-human genetics... bull shit ::)
He's just lying all over,
he mentioned that he care about health, yet everyone knows how he likes his junk food.
also in another vid he said that he started using gear at 17yo.
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Now you are taking it to the extreme. Just dont smoke or drink and you will be a beast for the same amount. Easy as that. You can still have a good car, house, useless blackberry and other pointless shit but just dont smoke or drink and its all you can inject GH and AAS buffet.
I don't smoke or drink to begin with so this would never work
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He's just lying all over,
he mentioned that he care about health, yet everyone knows how he likes his junk food.
also in another vid he said that he started using gear at 17yo.
yeah, i think he's the one who's famous for getting super fat in the off season. and he has a terrible distended belly now.
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don't forget the opiates
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or that with pharma gh you get 90% water inside muscle 10% between skin and muscle and with chinese generic you get like 55%inside muscle 45% between skin... wtf lol im sure its one of team nasser retards posting shits. the post that are true are the posts nasser told him to write.. and 50% is bullcrap written by a camel riding homo
90% 10 % pharm grade,, 75 25 generic that is legit ,, this is again riten in stone ,, i will explain in diff posting later on ,, i never make up things,,this is the meat and potatos i would never play with it ,, many bodybuiold can rize or fall base on this information
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"The Grinch" ~ classic!
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"The Grinch" ~ classic!
you rang? ;D
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I think you should open a thread : "kigtropin effect in pictures" and how this :
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3918553&d=1322988257)
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kigtropin efect in picture?
alexi
philsulina
dan hill or whatever name is
this is kigtropin effect in pictures,,
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