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Title: Is it possible to get a slin/gh gut while being natural?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on December 08, 2011, 02:26:58 PM
I feel like my gut is huge and protruding even tho I don't seem to have much bodyfat

could this be an accumulation of visceral fat because of not having done a day of cardio in my life?
Title: Re: Is it possible to get a slin/gh gut while being natural?
Post by: wes on December 08, 2011, 02:28:11 PM
Another classic thread in the making.  :)
Title: Re: Is it possible to get a slin/gh gut while being natural?
Post by: No Patience on December 08, 2011, 02:30:21 PM
I feel like my gut is huge and protruding even tho I don't seem to have much bodyfat

could this be an accumulation of visceral fat because of not having done a day of cardio in my life?

drink some whiskey on the rocks and you will look different in the morning...i have days when i look
ripped and then the next when my gut protrudes...bloat
Title: Re: Is it possible to get a slin/gh gut while being natural?
Post by: SmallPole on December 08, 2011, 02:31:06 PM
hey guiz, is it possible to get hit by a car on an exercise bike?
Title: Re: Is it possible to get a slin/gh gut while being natural?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on December 08, 2011, 02:31:42 PM
drink some whiskey on the rocks and you will look different in the morning...i have days when i look
ripped and then the next when my gut protrudes...bloat

i tried this levrone theory with beer but it didnt work at all

Title: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on December 08, 2011, 03:49:52 PM
if you never used any hormones but want to be strong and grab as hell?
Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: wes on December 08, 2011, 03:51:01 PM
Jesus Christ!  LOL   ::)

Unfuckingreal.  :D
Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: ChevChelios on December 08, 2011, 03:51:45 PM
Sure,trenbologna high doses+some test+all gh you can afford.Can only lead to succes  8)
Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: farrellzach on December 08, 2011, 03:53:55 PM
I didn't think it was humanly possible to post this many threads in a day without being a spambot
Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: juicyjay on December 08, 2011, 03:55:51 PM
are you trying to put on strength and size? or mainly strength and gain a few lbs of quality muscle, or what?
Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on December 08, 2011, 03:57:06 PM
are you trying to put on strength and size? or mainly strength and gain a few lbs of quality muscle, or what?
i can't decide as much as humanly possible of both


big and strong is what i want big and strong
Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: ChevChelios on December 08, 2011, 03:58:19 PM
dbol + deca.
Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on December 08, 2011, 04:02:09 PM
dbol + deca.
but i thought it went like


REMEMBER!!!!

TESTOSTERONA = THE HEART

TRENBOLONA = THE COCK

GHONA = THE BRAIN

where are deebol and dca in all of this
Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on December 08, 2011, 04:06:03 PM
Sure,trenbologna high doses+some test+all gh you can afford.Can only lead to succes  8)

will i be bigger than the bouncers by next year if i do this
Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: Nomad on December 08, 2011, 04:09:52 PM
Why dont you first try out some legit shit while its still available. Word is FDA is going to can Superdrol very soon.

Bridge Superdrol (1st) + Epistane (2nd) for an 8 week run.
Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: WillGrant on December 08, 2011, 04:10:22 PM
Up the Dose
Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on December 08, 2011, 04:10:34 PM
Why dont you first try out some legit shit while its still available. Word is FDA is going to can Superdrol very soon.

Bridge Superdrol (1st) + Epistane (2nd) for an 8 week run.

prohormones lol no thanks


half my gym used epistane/havoc and it didnt do much

Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: juicyjay on December 08, 2011, 04:11:38 PM
500/wk  for 12 weeks of any test ester of your choice, i'd go with cyp or enanthate due to less pinning frequency

30-40mg/day of dbol for 6 weeks if it's actually quality dbol

400mg/wk EQ for 12 weeks

4iu/day GH for 12 weeks

Tren Ace - 300mg/wk for 8 weeks

Eat your face off with both clean and dirty foods. Eat ice cream, loaded cheese fries, burgers, steak, fish, potatoes, fruit, veggies, eggs, chicken, rice, oatmeal, dinner rolls, anything you can stuff your face with that's calorically dense and high protein. Some things I mentioned aren't calorically dense or high protein obviously, but i'm saying you need a balance of clean and dirty foods. You won't get huge from chicken and rice alone. If this is just a joke about gh15, then fuck you lol, but if you're serious, you wil fucking explode in size and strength since you're a gear virgin.
Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on December 08, 2011, 04:14:31 PM
500/wk  for 12 weeks of any test ester of your choice, i'd go with cyp or enanthate duet to less pinning frequency

30-40mg/day of dbol for 6 weeks if it's actually quality dbol

400mg/wk EQ for 12 weeks

4iu/day GH for 12 weeks

Tren Ace - 300mg/wk for 8 weeks

Eat your face off with both clean and dirty foods. Eat ice cream, loaded cheese fries, burgers, steak, fish, potatoes, fruit, veggies, eggs, chicken, rice, oatmeal, dinner rolls, anything you can stuff your face with that's calorically dense and high protein. Some things I mentioned aren't calorically dense or high protein obviously, but i'm saying you need a balance of clean and dirty foods. You won't get huge from chicken and rice alone. If this is just a joke about gh15, then fuck you lol, but if you're serious, you wil fucking explode in size and strength since you're a gear virgin.
it is hypothetical at this point i just want to know when i decide to do it that i know exactly how to do it not like all the tools in my gum fucking up their balls somehow with winstrol, burning out and not getting up again (why the fuck do they all want winstrLOL)


do all these weeks overlap or do you mean u use the one thing for this many weeks then the other thing for that many weeks?

"explode in strength" could you estimate a percentage that is to be expected? i read some getbigger saying 20-25% only, not more
Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: wes on December 08, 2011, 04:15:58 PM
500/wk  for 12 weeks of any test ester of your choice, i'd go with cyp or enanthate duet to less pinning frequency

30-40mg/day of dbol for 6 weeks if it's actually quality dbol

400mg/wk EQ for 12 weeks

4iu/day GH for 12 weeks

Tren Ace - 300mg/wk for 8 weeks

Eat your face off with both clean and dirty foods. Eat ice cream, loaded cheese fries, burgers, steak, fish, potatoes, fruit, veggies, eggs, chicken, rice, oatmeal, dinner rolls, anything you can stuff your face with that's calorically dense and high protein. Some things I mentioned aren't calorically dense or high protein obviously, but i'm saying you need a balance of clean and dirty foods. You won't get huge from chicken and rice alone. If this is just a joke about gh15, then fuck you lol, but if you're serious, you wil fucking explode in size and strength since you're a gear virgin.
This guy is supposedly all natural (gimmick anyway but WTF),he could make nice gains on a D-Bol cycle only as his first cycle.

You guys kill me advising a total natty to use huge dosages and GH his first time out.

Get a clue and stop parroting Gh15....he talks about advanced bodybuilders only doing huge amounts.
Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on December 08, 2011, 04:16:50 PM
This guy supposedly all natural (gimmick anyway but WTF),he could make nice gains on a D-Bol cycle only as his first cycle.

You guys kill me advising a total natty to use huge dosages and GH his first time out.

Get a clue and stop parroting Gh15....he talks about advanced bodybuilders only doing huge amounts.

why say "supposedly?" i resent that insinuation
Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: aesthetics on December 08, 2011, 04:20:11 PM
stop trolling son
Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on December 08, 2011, 04:21:13 PM
stop trolling son

ok i go to bed now

see you bodybuildas tomorrow
Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: juicyjay on December 08, 2011, 04:21:19 PM
it is hypothetical at this point i just want to know when i decide to do it that i know exactly how to do it not like all the tools in my gum fucking up their balls somehow with winstrol, burning out and not getting up again (why the fuck do they all want winstrLOL)


do all these weeks overlap or do you mean u use the one thing for this many weeks then the other thing for that many weeks?

They use winny because they're queers who are afraid to poke themselves with a needle, so they go the oral route. Winny is a shit drug anyway, fucks your joints and is a shitty muscle builder. Only use is pre-contest, and even then, there's better options.

Weeks 1-12 - test cyp 500mg/wk pinned 2x per week, but 3 would be better

Weeks 1-12 - EQ 400mg/wk pinned 2x per week, but 3 would be better

Weeks 1-12 - 4iu/day GH pinned 2iu morning and 2iu before bed

Weeks 1-6 - 30-40mg/day  DBOL 10mg taken 3-4x per day, with 1 of those doses taken about 1hr pre-workout

Weeks 1-8 - 300mg/wk Tren Ace pinned every other day

in all honesty, i would change this, but since others would say nooooooooo you'll diet, blah blah, i will leave it like this. there's better options to this cycle as well, granted you have zero predisposed health conditions. you'll also want OTC health supps as well. PCT is hell, at least for me, which is why i just stay on all year. mood sucks, dick doesn't work, irritable as hell, appetite goes down, training sucks, get weaker, etc, for a couple months straight. fuck that.
Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on December 08, 2011, 04:24:02 PM
They use winny because they're queers who are afraid to poke themselves with a needle, so they go the oral route. Winny is a shit drug anyway, fucks your joints and is a shitty muscle builder. Only use is pre-contest, and even then, there's better options.

Weeks 1-12 - test cyp 500mg/wk pinned 2x per week, but 3 would be better

Weeks 1-12 - EQ 400mg/wk pinned 2x per week, but 3 would be better

Weeks 1-12 - 4iu/day GH pinned 2iu morning and 2iu before bed

Weeks 1-6 - 30-40mg/day  DBOL 10mg taken 3-4x per day, with 1 of those doses taken about 1hr pre-workout

Weeks 1-8 - 300mg/wk Tren Ace pinned every other day

in all honesty, i would change this, but since others would say nooooooooo you'll diet, blah blah, i will leave it like this. there's better options to this cycle as well, granted you have zero predisposed health conditions. you'll also want OTC health supps as well. PCT is hell, at least for me, which is why i just stay on all year. mood sucks, dick doesn't work, irritable as hell, appetite goes down, training sucks, get weaker, etc, for a couple months straight. fuck that.

where do you buy all this shit anyway and how to make sure it's a fair price and good quality?
Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: Swlabr on December 08, 2011, 04:24:22 PM
Read the bible, moran. ::)
Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: juicyjay on December 08, 2011, 04:26:40 PM
This guy is supposedly all natural (gimmick anyway but WTF),he could make nice gains on a D-Bol cycle only as his first cycle.

You guys kill me advising a total natty to use huge dosages and GH his first time out.

Get a clue and stop parroting Gh15....he talks about advanced bodybuilders only doing huge amounts.

these are not huge dosages, and dbol alone will gain some muscle, but mostly water. he will look good, then shrink down considerably post cycle which will mess with him mentally, bad advice. i am not parroting anyone, if you want huge results, you won't get it with 1 single dbol only cycle for a few weeks. i did the whole "low dose only, tren pre-contest only, dbol low dose maybe twice a year, etc." you know where it got me? not very fuckin far. i increased my doses and changed the way i layout my cycles because of some top national guys i talk to, not gh15. low and behold, i've gained 13lbs in the last 6 weeks, blood pressure is 182/76, cholesterol is fine, triglycerides are fine, etc. monitor everything and as long as you don't have any health issues you're not aware of, you'll make big jumps in progress and keep your health in tact.
Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: wes on December 08, 2011, 04:29:39 PM
these are not huge dosages, and dbol alone will gain some muscle, but mostly water. he will look good, then shrink down considerably post cycle which will mess with him mentally, bad advice. i am not parroting anyone, if you want huge results, you won't get it with 1 single dbol only cycle for a few weeks. i did the whole "low dose only, tren pre-contest only, dbol low dose maybe twice a year, etc." you know where it got me? not very fuckin far. i increased my doses and changed the way i layout my cycles because of some top national guys i talk to, not gh15. low and behold, i've gained 13lbs in the last 6 weeks, blood pressure is 182/76, cholesterol is fine, triglycerides are fine, etc. monitor everything and as long as you don't have any health issues you're not aware of, you'll make big jumps in progress and keep your health in tact.
Dude,it would be his first cycle.

Ever try to get the most out of the least amount?

I`m not against what you use,it`s just not needed for a beginner.

Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: Swlabr on December 08, 2011, 04:34:23 PM
Dude,it would be his first cycle.

Ever try to get the most out of the least amount?

I`m not against what you use,it`s just not needed for a beginner.



Tren = perfect for first cycle. I did the whole bullshit steroid boarding 500 mg test-e/week with dbol. Bloated me up and made me fatter. Wish I'd started with tren tbh.
Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: juicyjay on December 08, 2011, 04:36:39 PM
where do you buy all this shit anyway and how to make sure it's a fair price and good quality?

you don't need it all, you can see results on far less, but what you are wanting to do, this is what you need to do that. people think they will run a test only cycle and blow up, then they gain 20lbs in those 3 months, come off and do pct, lose some water weight and more muscle, and don't really look a hell of a lot bigger than when they started. if you want the "holy shit bro! what the hell happened to you in the last 3 months!? you're huge and ripped!" comments, then this will do it. Your strength will skyrocket as well. this isn't a source board, so i can't say where to get anything  :-X
Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on December 08, 2011, 04:38:24 PM
you don't need it all, you can see results on far less, but what you are wanting to do, this is what you need to do that. people think they will run a test only cycle and blow up, then they gain 20lbs in those 3 months, come off and do pct, lose some water weight and more muscle, and don't really look a hell of a lot bigger than when they started. if you want the "holy shit bro! what the hell happened to you in the last 3 months!? you're huge and ripped!" comments, then this will do it. Your strength will skyrocket as well. this isn't a source board, so i can't say where to get anything  :-X

i always figured why steroid if you are only going to look marginally better

if you're gonna do it might as well go balls deep
Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: juicyjay on December 08, 2011, 04:40:06 PM
Dude,it would be his first cycle.

Ever try to get the most out of the least amount?

I`m not against what you use,it`s just not needed for a beginner.



like i said, i have tried that. for the past 4yrs i've cruised on 250/wk for about half of the year, bulked on 40mg dbol and 600mg test for a few months, then did my contest prep cycle. my results were far from spectacular. now i've only recently increased my dosages after talking to many top national guys, i'm talking only about 6 weeks ago. i've made more progress in these last 6 weeks, than i have in the past year, no lie. i know it's not needed for a beginner, but i know what results he's looking for, and he just won't get it on 6 weeks of 30mg/day dbol.
Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on December 08, 2011, 04:43:04 PM
another thing juicyjay...

i've come to the conclusion that 5x5 routines worked best for me (being natural) probably because it's not a lot of volume but pretty high frequency so strength responds to it


would i keep doing a routine like this and keep piling on the weights or do you need to train the "milos way" if you want to get the most out of these juices?


(milos way = training like a "bodybuilder" not a brute strength man)
Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: juicyjay on December 08, 2011, 04:46:31 PM
i always figured why steroid if you are only going to look marginally better

if you're gonna do it might as well go balls deep

this is exactly what i mean. you see those videos online with the 21 and 2yr old guys who are just freaks of nature. they did not get there using some dbol and a little test a few months out of the year. in all honesty, it depends on your goals and what you want to do exactly. for me, i'm a light heavyweight and will be going to nationals in 2012, so i need to BLAST when I blast, not just try to get the most out of small doses, because it just DOES NOT WORK. if you want to just look massive and absolutely insane compared to everyone else around you, you NEED to go all out, period. if that is not your goal, and you just want to gain slowly but surely over time, then by all means do your thing. i have nothing at all against anyone who uses small doses, anyone who's TRULY natural, etc, if you're doing what you know needs to be done to meet YOUR goals, then i respect you and support you 100%. for where i want to take my physique, this is what i need to do.
Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on December 08, 2011, 04:52:47 PM
this is exactly what i mean. you see those videos online with the 21 and 2yr old guys who are just freaks of nature. they did not get there using some dbol and a little test a few months out of the year. in all honesty, it depends on your goals and what you want to do exactly. for me, i'm a light heavyweight and will be going to nationals in 2012, so i need to BLAST when I blast, not just try to get the most out of small doses, because it just DOES NOT WORK. if you want to just look massive and absolutely insane compared to everyone else around you, you NEED to go all out, period. if that is not your goal, and you just want to gain slowly but surely over time, then by all means do your thing. i have nothing at all against anyone who uses small doses, anyone who's TRULY natural, etc, if you're doing what you know needs to be done to meet YOUR goals, then i respect you and support you 100%. for where i want to take my physique, this is what i need to do.

well to be perfectly honest I want to be a huge powerful muscular guy like anyone on this site


feel scammed about the whole natural thing, everything i've been told was a lie

and worst of all i feel like all the unrelenting efforts i put into the gym were a big waste of energy and time

so one of these days i hope to make my mind up about this steroid thing and when i do i want to jump right on a 100% super results program not some bogus pussy one to waste even more time and energy


i will copy paste and save this program you suggested thanks for the info friend
Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: aesthetics on December 08, 2011, 04:54:10 PM
i told you to just run deca or npp
Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: juicyjay on December 08, 2011, 04:58:17 PM
another thing juicyjay...

i've come to the conclusion that 5x5 routines worked best for me (being natural) probably because it's not a lot of volume but pretty high frequency so strength responds to it


would i keep doing a routine like this and keep piling on the weights or do you need to train the "milos way" if you want to get the most out of these juices?


(milos way = training like a "bodybuilder" not a brute strength man)

for me, i am naturally an ectomorph. it is very hard for me to put on muscle, but it's easier than hell to stay lean. now, i don't know what your body type is, but for me, drop sets work better than anything else for nice and steady strength gains, insane pumps, and growth. i've trie hiit, dc training, high volume, low volume, high frequency, low freq, etc. for me, i drop set everything. for example, i'll deadlift 465x10, strip the weight down to 405, then rep it out as many times as i can with no rest other than the time it takes to strip off the weight, then i'll drop it down again to 365 and do the same thing. i do that for every exercise. i do 3 exercises per body part and 3 sets per body part, now i do have some lagging parts i'm trying to bring up, so i do 4 to 5 sets for those and use some different techniques. but you get the jist of it...you also want to use PERFECT fprm on EVERY exercise. if you cannot lift the weight properly with no swinging, bouncing, lack of a full range of motion, etc, then you're lifting too much weight. you should be able to feel the muscle contract and squeeze VERY hard, you should almost literally be able to feel the fibers. it's hard to explain, but once you do it right, you'll know.
Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: juicyjay on December 08, 2011, 05:00:19 PM
well to be perfectly honest I want to be a huge powerful muscular #### like anyone on this site


feel scammed about the whole natural thing, everything i've been told was a lie

and worst of all i feel like all the unrelenting efforts i put into the gym were a big waste of energy and time

so one of these days i hope to make my mind up about this steroid thing and when i do i want to jump right on a 100% super results program not some bogus pussy one to waste even more time and energy


i will copy paste and save this program you suggested thanks for the info friend

i'm leaving to train chest and calves right now, but shoot me a PM, and i'll be more than happy to help you out with everything bro. i was in the same boat once, and without the help of others, i would literally know NONE of the things i know now.
Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: WillGrant on December 08, 2011, 05:04:13 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/MpUvt.jpg)
Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: g101 on December 08, 2011, 05:05:39 PM
my first cycle was tren + deca + little bit winstrol tabs+ little bit of test  ..

i didn't know anything about AAS back then i just took anything

best cycle though..... i loved it  ;D

Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: dyslexic on December 08, 2011, 05:10:28 PM
What a great influence this site is having on people these days...
Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: Voland on December 08, 2011, 05:13:54 PM
honestly...yes.

I started my first cycle ever about 8 weeks ago...i did what its supposed to do "use just one compound" "use test, 500mg is good enough"...honestly if i had to advise newbz id say jump on a real cycle.

500mg test is not a cycle its bs its cruise type hormonization.

I added 500eq 2 weeks ago in hopes EQ does something. If still nothing ill just double the test and the EQ (or add a 3rd compound)

Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: apply85 on December 08, 2011, 05:37:17 PM
needed? does he even need to do steroids?  ::)
Title: Re: Is it possible to get a slin/gh gut while being natural?
Post by: NYSTATEOFMIND on December 08, 2011, 06:30:40 PM
I feel like my gut is huge and protruding  because of not having done a day of cardio in my life

thats more like it  ;)
Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: chess315 on December 08, 2011, 06:50:12 PM
i can't decide as much as humanly possible of both


big and strong is what i want big and strong

for that it would take a lot of drugs i think for your goals any basic cycle would be great you have the perfect base to blow up your lean and strong. You will be so glad you did. I think thats one reason I get on these boards so much I can give a fuck less about bodybuilding and powerliftting but steroids changed my life night an day.
Title: Re: Is it possible to get a slin/gh gut while being natural?
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 08, 2011, 09:05:42 PM
....Have you ever seen ethiopians?
Title: Re: Is it possible to get a slin/gh gut while being natural?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on December 09, 2011, 12:45:37 AM
telling myself if I do this magical cycle i will be bigger than that "zyzz" guy by next year  ::)
Title: Re: ideally should jump straight into testosterona, trenbolona and ghona allat once?
Post by: Dr Dutch on December 09, 2011, 02:27:39 AM
where do you buy all this shit anyway and how to make sure it's a fair price and good quality?
Hey you told us you'd go to bed... >:(
Title: Re: Is it possible to get a slin/gh gut while being natural?
Post by: chess315 on December 09, 2011, 02:40:21 AM
....Have you ever seen ethiopians?
lol purenaturalstrength may be nutty and not have women skills but he is well built for a natural considering he is very lean thats a hell of an advatage. I think he has one of the better bases to start i have seen.
Title: Re: Is it possible to get a slin/gh gut while being natural?
Post by: chess315 on December 09, 2011, 02:42:06 AM
telling myself if I do this magical cycle i will be bigger than that "zyzz" guy by next year  ::)
you will be
Title: Re: Is it possible to get a slin/gh gut while being natural?
Post by: chess315 on December 09, 2011, 02:45:34 AM
after researching the purenaturalstrength archives lol I came up with this pic. How much better of a start to juice could someone have? That is the A1 prime condition to start.