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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: whitewidow on December 12, 2011, 04:34:53 AM
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its cycle time bulking and cutting.
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Fuuuuuu
Great gear :o :P
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damn dude nice stash, good luck!
Gonna get big and juicy :)
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looks like a gym dealers stash
you deal'in brah?
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Jesus. What you got there? :o
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looks like a gym dealers stash
you deal'in brah?
HELL NO! you ever seen jays stash :o I do good with a legal business plus I started working at 14yrs old went to highschool and wroked never got a day off :P I am no stranger when it comes to hard work
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you ever seen jays stash :o
No, wanna tell me?
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HERE IS THE PLAN-I AM TRYING TO KEEP IT SIMPLE(REAL OLD SCHOOL)- THIS IS ALL PERSONAL BELIEVE IT ARE NOT! I JUST NEED MORE HUMAN GRADE HGH 1 KIT OF SEROSTIM MONTH WON'T CUTT IT. I MAY GO FOR KIGS
RIGHT NOW I AM 194 PDS 6-8 BF%. DEPENDING ON WHAT i HAVE EATEN AND HOW MUCH WATER I HAVE TAKEN IN
I AM OF COURSE GOING TO BULK FOR AWHILE ON THE GERMAN REMEDIES TESTOVIRON. ALL OF THIS IS FROMPHARMACY EXCEPT THE STRANGER TREN ACETATE BUT OF COURE THE ONLY HUMAN GRADE TREN I HAVE IS PARABOLIN. WICH I WILL USE.
BULKING PLAN---18 WEEKS
FIRST 6 WEEKS----
GERMAN REMEDIES TESTOVIRON 250MG AMP EOD- MON,WED,FRI- 750MG PER WEEK
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2 SHOTS OF - NANDROBOLON 250MG PER AMP-- SUNDAY SHOT OF NANDRO, ONLY 2 SHOTS (NOT ONE HUGE SHOT) 500MG A WEEK
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DBOL- 50MG DAILY FOR THE FIRST 6 WEEKS ONLY!~
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HGH- SEROSTIM OR WHATEVER I GET FROM PHARMACY USUALLY IT IS SEROSTIM BUT HAVE TO WAIT 2 DAYS THEY DO NOT STOCK HGH- 4 IU DAILY 2 IN MORNING AND 2 BEFORE BED. IF I GET KIGS I WILL USE MORE SAY ANOTHERR 2MG PRE-WORKOUT AND ANOTHER 2MG AFTER WOROUT MEAL SO 8 IU DAILY
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NEXT 6 WEEKS
SWITCH TO THE ORGANON SUSTANON-250
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MON, WED, FRI --- 250 MG SUSTANON SHOT
TUES, THURS,SAT--- 250MG EQ
SUNDAY ----- 2 SHOTS 250MG NANDRO-250
HGH USED THE SAME WAY AS ABOVE
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LAST 6 WEEKS - THIS IS WHEN I GET NUTTS-JK
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GOING TO GO REAL LIGHT ON CARBS- JUST SOME COMPLEX CARBS IN THE MORNING AND MAINLY CHICKEN BREASTS AND SALMON. GOING TO LIMIT FLUID INTAKE THIS TIME LAST FEW WEEKS I WILL PRETEND I AM IN THE DESERT. I ALSO HAVE CLEN,LASIX IF I AM NOT LEANING OUT ENOUGH BUT I USUALLY DONT HAVE TO GO THAT FAR AND THIS ISNT FOR A COMP. SO MY GOAL IS JUST 4-6BF% WICH I AM NOT THAT FAR FROM ON JUST HGH 4IU.
MON-SAT- 100MG PROP ED- 600MG TEST PROP A WEEK
TUES, THURS,SAT- 100MG TREN ACETATE - 300MG TREN A WEEK
MON-FRIDAY - 100MG MASTERON PROPIONATE - 500MG MASTERON PROP A WEEK
WED,SAT,SUNDAY 250MG EQ - 750MG EQ PER WEEK
MON-SUN- HALOTESTIN 50MG DAILY ONLY LAST 4 WEEKS
HGH SAME AS I DESCRIBED ABOVE JUST A SHITTY 4 IU'S UNLESS I LIKE THE KIGS OR CAN EVEN GET KIGS //GH15 IS BUYING THEM ALL-LOL
THIS IS NOT A COMPETITION STACK JUST TRYING TO LOOK GOOD FOR THE LADYS AND MAINLY DOING THIS FOR MYSELF. I WILL RUN MY USUAL pct
20-40MG NOLVA, 50MG CLOMID JUST FOR A FEW WEEKS! HCG AS WELL 1,500IU'S JUST A FEW SHOTS A WEEK JUST GOING TO USE FOR 2 WEEKS SO MAYBE JUST FOUR HCG SHOTS IN ALL
THEN I WILL HIT THE DHEA AND TRIBEX UP AS WELL AS SOME VITARGO CGL. THE DHEA IS WHAT WORKS FOR ME THE BEST NOT ALOT OF PEOPLE USE IT FOR PCT BUT IT WORKS GREAT FOR ME. I WILL UPDATE
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Good luck, whitewidow!
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Good luck, whitewidow!
yeah,he will need it .
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yeah,he will need it .
What's up, monstah? U lurkin these days?
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makeveli they are Testobolon -250 amps. sust is organon infar blister sealed
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What do you think of the new obs sustanon amps? They look like the pakistan yellow ones but obs took over production.
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Waiting for gh15 to hijack this thread ;D
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this sust you got from euroman , is painful as hell
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hahah jesus christ that's a lot of amps.
where's the gh though! tsk tsk
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this sust you got from euroman , is painful as hell
wich sust? the infars or the induject? all depends on the person usually it is the prop. sust in general can give people sust flu if they are not use to it . it has four esters. Its wither sust or the 6th week I change to testoviron that is only 100mg per ml but has 25mg of prop.
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hahah jesus christ that's a lot of amps.
where's the gh though! tsk tsk
it is in the fridge and almost gone. I only get a kit a month.
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alright besides the gear what do you guys think of the cycle? just for a going to the club getting chicks look? I have good luck as it is but I want to really blow up my legs and my tris and bi's this time. I also want some better abs they look ok but nothing spectacular. I want a thick six pack. to much test?
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wich sust? the infars or the induject? all depends on the person usually it is the prop. sust in general can give people sust flu if they are not use to it . it has four esters. Its wither sust or the 6th week I change to testoviron that is only 100mg per ml but has 25mg of prop.
sust infars is painful, I dont like induject dont feel anything from it, better go with karachis or omas
No with omnas and karachis there are too many fakes out there even the best sources get fake ones. with the organon infars and induject they are always 100% real! they come blister sealed and no counterfeiter goes that far. plus I have been getting them for years and they have always been blister sealed and look the same. It might be painfull but they are 100% real. with omnas and karachis it is a gamble. even getting them from O are uncle. actually uncle is in poland and he has gotten bunk ones before. and as far as karachis go lots of fakes. I stick with what I know is real. even if it hurts but they don't hurt me. I get a little sust sickness but that is normal its from all the esters. induject is smooth. maybe you got a harsh batch. did they come blister sealed? both the infar and induject? I blow up off either one. alpha-pharma is good gear they are on point it is 10% real sust mix. just some people can't handle sust very well,like I said i even get a little touch of test flu,
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WW,
I just ran that same bulk cycle on 750 mg omnadren (old blend), 500 mg dianabol, 50-100 mg injectable dianabol for first 6 weeks, and I just added in the kigtropin @ 5 iu for the last 3 weeks.
I am on the edge of 230 lol, just under it.. I laugh because I started this cycle around 210ish and I am experienced in this game, but I just haven't run the good old water balloon cycle of sust deca dianabol for a long, long time, and I forgot how much mass that cycle adds @ the appropriate dose. Also, the GH just pushed it into overdrive.
I'm getting a nice package from a stranger today or tomorrow actually, with some of the same stuff you have in your pics for my cut... Very excited.
Good luck with your plan.. It seems very, very well planned out. And ps, regarding people calling your stash big, LOL. My roommate, who just went to europe for a while and is on the edge of making it pro (he has narrowly missed on three opportunities) has literally a trunk of gear. A 6 foot long, 2 foot high, 2 feet deep TRUNK that is only for gear. lol,
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6 ft trunk of gear. Good lawd...
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alright besides the gear what do you guys think of the cycle? just for a going to the club getting chicks look? I have good luck as it is but I want to really blow up my legs and my tris and bi's this time. I also want some better abs they look ok but nothing spectacular. I want a thick six pack. to much test?
You got some good strango tren there,why don't you double the dose from 300 to 600?Prone to sides?
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Waiting for gh15 to hijack this thread ;D
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Even this fella whitewidow is not as stupid as you think he know true power of kigtropins dont let this fella fool you.
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6 ft trunk of gear. Good lawd...
not full, and it had some other interesting items in it... items I won't divulge in case anyone discovers my roommates identity, which I could actually piece together a couple ways that this could happen (if he makes it pro, and then I make a post congratulating him for example).
then if I mention that he has a bree olson replica head "blow job simulator" in his trunk, he might get pissed off at me..
whoops (:
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how did buselmo put it... if you wanna get big eat when your hungry and eat till your full.. use as much bulking drugs as you can afford... if you wanna get ripped starve yourself and use and much low-estrogen drugs as you can... dont overcomplicate it bro..
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You got some good strango tren there,why don't you double the dose from 300 to 600?Prone to sides?
mainly because I am running masteron and halo wich are both highly androgenic. 300mg should do me fine. not looking to compete otherwise I def would run that much. if someone was competing that is what I actualy recommend myself. Im just looking to get lean and jacked for some bar sluts-lol
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GREAT SUPPLEMENTS BRO.
JUST REMEMBER DRUGS ARE JUST THE FINISHING TOUCH.
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Wish I could get my hands on some Strango!
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GREAT SUPPLEMENTS BRO.
JUST REMEMBER DRUGS ARE JUST THE FINISHING TOUCH.
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Oh hell I am ready to bust my ass in the gym! I don't want to waste my money! hell I waited till I was 24 yrs old before I even touched AAS even longer till I fucked around with HGH. I was patient! I knew alot about gear and how to run cycles and was always into bodybuilding. I put myself on crazy diets spending ass-loads of money just on food. highly expensive anabolic foods. I totally had stopped growing naturally before I started using AAS and maybe that is why I respond so well. I always blow up. I have put on 30 pds of muscle mass in 6 years I know it dosn't sound like much. I could be heavier but I am 5'5 at 6-8 BF% off cycle and that is where I want to be. you can only get so big while keeping your bodyfat in the single digits. I will easily blow up to 220lbs but will hopefully finish when I am done with PCT at around 200-205 pounds at 6-8 bf% hopefully 6% BF. I have the illusion of weighing alot more and that is all that counts. when a brother looks like he is 230pds and he weighs around 200lbs you are doing things correctly. Due to being lean I give a illusion of looking alot more than I actually weigh. when I was at a ripped 178 lbs I looked way over 200 LBS, to most people due to my upper and lower body thickness they never guess I am only that weight. same thing going on now. 194lbs 6-8% I give people an illuison of 215 pds
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You got some good strango tren there,why don't you double the dose from 300 to 600?Prone to sides?
Yeah, I second this. Looks like you have more than enough tren to do so as well..
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WW you're my best friend
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Yeah, I second this. Looks like you have more than enough tren to do so as well..
yeah I might bump it up but guys I am running masteron at a high dose, and halo tabs all three of those steroids Tren,Masteron and halo are all highly androgenic. like i said this isnt a competing cycle It is just to get jacked for some bar sluts. I will do good on 300mg of tren plus alot of you guys know I get trensomnia. 300mg will work fine. especially with masteron and halo in the mix. I dont want to get hypertension either I have also mentioned in the past My BP goes up. GH15 says his stays low. but I get around 138/89
he says he satys around 119-79 wich I dont believe running that many harsh androgens. if I were competing my own advice would to use tren 100mg daily MON-FRI. but like I said this isn't for a comp.looking just to get jacked up and vascular.I like to eat salt packets after workout on my grilled chicken. makes my veins pop like nutts. made people trip one night when I did this. thhey had never seen such vascul forarms. I had a polo shirt on and I flexed my forarm after eating a grilled chicken patty with a packet of salt and they just popped like jutts and I fllexed them up and dudes were tripping. they started flexing their forarms to see if they could get any veins flowing and none of them had a vein in site. they really were asking questions about what i did to get that vascular i didnt say much I told them just sodium intake after my workout makes my veins pop i didn't mention steroids but one guy asked if I was using them-lol . he knew that didnt look normal.
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Pics or it didn't happen. ;)
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Fuck if you are 195 6-8% bf now at 5'5 you are already TANK. Should look professional after this cycle with your knowledge and goodies on hand.
Take some pics man
and to add, yeah I see you have halo, mast, and tren. I would personally drop the halo down to 20 or 30 and up the tren. You are going to be a fucking dick head on 50mg of halo and its gonna put more of a toll on your insides then the tren will.
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I didn't read every post in this thread, but I would switch your dosing around on the tren and masteron. Go 500 tren and 300 Masteron instead of the other way around. Really though, I'd recommend 1 cc tren ED.
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sustanon is a waste of money. just get enanthate.
and, having just done nine weeks of tren ace 300mg/week and 750mg of test/week. i wish i would have kept the test between 250 and 500 a week and gone 600mg tren/week.
i want to look HARDER. i still look bloofy damnit. and i'm LEAN. just lots of water messing up my lines. if you don't have abs and a lean pussy pulling face what's the fucking point anyway? to impress other bloofs with how much weight you're pressing??? fuck that
i'm anxious to try masteron. you'll have to post progress pics to show how this turns out.
also you're wasting your money if you plan on going "off" again. you'll loose everything you gain when off hormones from this point on. just warning you.
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Pics or it didn't happen. ;)
Oh it happened. didn't have a camera on me. I dont usually walk around with a camera. this was years ago not alot of people had cellphone cams that year and even if they did it wouldnt of looked as good. just something you had to see in person. it was definately being lean with that high sodium intake.
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sustanon is a waste of money. just get enanthate.
and, having just done nine weeks of tren ace 300mg/week and 750mg of test/week. i wish i would have kept the test between 250 and 500 a week and gone 600mg tren/week.
i want to look HARDER. i still look bloofy damnit. and i'm LEAN. just lots of water messing up my lines. if you don't have abs and a lean pussy pulling face what's the fucking point anyway? to impress other bloofs with how much weight you're pressing??? fuck that
i'm anxious to try masteron. you'll have to post progress pics to show how this turns out.
also you're wasting your money if you plan on going "off" again. you'll loose everything you gain when off
hormones from this point on. just warning you.
LoL
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Fuck if you are 195 6-8% bf now at 5'5 you are already TANK. Should look professional after this cycle with your knowledge and goodies on hand.
Take some pics man
and to add, yeah I see you have halo, mast, and tren. I would personally drop the halo down to 20 or 30 and up the tren. You are going to be a fucking dick head on 50mg of halo and its gonna put more of a toll on your insides then the tren will.
I have pics I dont post them on the web though not with gear like that! am pretty jacked but I want to break 200 ripped. I get trensomnia to bad I have told you guys this before and i am more of a dick of tren then on halo. I really love masteron and halo.Halo is my favorite! Tren is awesome but just makes me a dick and I get trensomnia like I posted about in the past. now If I were going to compete I would run 500mg tren Mon-FRi and masteron Mon-Fri.
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sustanon is a waste of money. just get enanthate.
and, having just done nine weeks of tren ace 300mg/week and 750mg of test/week. i wish i would have kept the test between 250 and 500 a week and gone 600mg tren/week.
i want to look HARDER. i still look bloofy damnit. and i'm LEAN. just lots of water messing up my lines. if you don't have abs and a lean pussy pulling face what's the fucking point anyway? to impress other bloofs with how much weight you're pressing??? fuck that
i'm anxious to try masteron. you'll have to post progress pics to show how this turns out.
also you're wasting your money if you plan on going "off" again. you'll loose everything you gain when off hormones from this point on. just warning you.
I might use a diffrent testoviron instead of sust the testoviron that is 100mg Test E and 25mg Test prop. I do well on sust though. like I was telling someone else to many fake omnas and karachis what i have is 200% authentic sustanon. like I said blistered amps are rarely counterfeited if at all. plus I have gotten this infar organon sust for years and the induject is 200% legit both are 200% real. omnas and karachis you have to worry about. even if your source it awesome. they have counterfeit karachis in pakistan and thailand and countefeit omnas are all over! they are not bunk just are not made by jelfa. i think the russians knock them off or the chinese.I know for sure my sust is GTG!
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I have pics I dont post them on the web though not with gear like that! am pretty jacked but I want to break 200 ripped. I get trensomnia to bad I have told you guys this before and i am more of a dick of tren then on halo. I really love masteron and halo.Halo is my favorite! Tren is awesome but just makes me a dick and I get trensomnia like I posted about in the past. now If I were going to compete I would run 500mg tren Mon-FRi and masteron Mon-Fri.
crazy, i'm completely opposite, can handle high doses of tren.... not halo. Either way, if your ripped right up both will yield a rock like physique..
Happy growing!
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I sleep like a baby on tren :D
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ON THIS TRAIN TOO, CLEARED TO LIFT SOON. START ON JAN 2ND WITH A NEW CYCLE
STRANGO EQ 600MG, OMNADREN 250MG WEEKLY WITH 4IU KIGTROPIN ED
THEN SWITCH TO
*****MASTERON 375MG, STRANGO TREN 300MG, STRANGO PHENYL PROP 250MG WITH 5-6IU KIGTROPIN ED.
GOING WITH DL´S KIGTROPIN AND K´S ACTUALLY.
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Sustanon is ok. It's just that compared to enanthate I believe you get less (mg per mg) and it usually costs more. :-\
Why not just run test propionate? Since you're already pinning three x per week, just combine injections.
That's what I plan on doing next blast.
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Good luck bro.
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Sustanon is ok. It's just that compared to enanthate I believe you get less (mg per mg) and it usually costs more. :-\
Why not just run test propionate? Since you're already pinning three x per week, just combine injections.
That's what I plan on doing next blast.
You'll be less bloofy on sust. First thing I noticed when I switched was my face puff out and lower back holds water at night on Test E.
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You'll be less bloofy on sust. First thing I noticed when I switched was my face puff out and lower back holds water at night on Test E.
that's unscientific. there had to have been other factors involved. sustanon is just the neapolitan of test esters. it has the long and the short.
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that's unscientific. there had to have been other factors involved. sustanon is just the neapolitan of test esters. it has the long and the short.
it doesn't really make sense but a lot of guys have less sides on shorter esters, probably due to the brief lulls in hormone blood levels.
but you are right sust has multiple esters. it's comprised of mostly long esters, prop, phenyl-prop, isocaproate, deconoate with those last 2 being relatively long esters and making up the majority of the active ester-bound test
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how did buselmo put it... if you wanna get big eat when your hungry and eat till your full.. use as much bulking drugs as you can afford... if you wanna get ripped starve yourself and use and much low-estrogen drugs as you can... dont overcomplicate it bro..
BINGO!! ;D ;D
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BINGO!! ;D ;D
not too crazy on testosterona ;)
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Damn I wish I could get my hands on some of that strango!!!!
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Damn I wish I could get my hands on some of that strango!!!!
I was slobbering over that tren as well. How much did those cost you per vial?
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sustanon is a waste of money. just get enanthate.
and, having just done nine weeks of tren ace 300mg/week and 750mg of test/week. i wish i would have kept the test between 250 and 500 a week and gone 600mg tren/week.
i want to look HARDER. i still look bloofy damnit. and i'm LEAN. just lots of water messing up my lines. if you don't have abs and a lean pussy pulling face what's the fucking point anyway? to impress other bloofs with how much weight you're pressing??? fuck that
i'm anxious to try masteron. you'll have to post progress pics to show how this turns out.
also you're wasting your money if you plan on going "off" again. you'll loose everything you gain when off hormones from this point on. just warning you.
I like sust during 2 times:
1- For my cruise. Especially the strango sust... 350 mg/ml, perfect for one shot per week.
2- For a "fuck it" bulk (not a mutation), mixed with deca and dianabol. Turn into a water balloon. I am currently running this, and was beginning to look like a puffy fish or whatever that is (even though my bf% never went up above 7 %, I was holding so much water it was crazy), and then I added the kigs in and I went all arnold circa mr olympia 1974... Upper body retaining absurd amounts of water and fullness, but I have no waist at all (32 inch waist @ 230 lbs right now, 5'11 1/2'', 6% bf). Weird feeling to go from feeling Oprah bloated from all the sust and deca and dianabol (and masteron and tne lol), to adding in some kigs and 2 weeks later I think I figured out what those fuckers named Arnold and Serge were up to in the 1970s.
Having said all of that, I am not a big proponent of sustanon for all of the reasons you stated. It is a bloofy drug. But if you are going to run deca and dianabol, might as well go all out bloofy on the cycle with the sustanon as well... If you are taking your GH it won't matter anyhow, and I am still formulating my opinion on the possibility of sustanon + deca + dianabol + kigtropin/serostim/any gh that is really gh being a really good 16 week blast. I already know that tren a and low dose test p + gh : mutation from the bible, I have tried tren a and test p WITHOUT gh in the mix, and that was fantastic... and on the same hand I have tried sust, deca, dianabol in the past WITHOUT gh, and that was horrible due to bloat. The gh made this cycle wonderful, so I can only imagine what is going to happen when I run the tren a and test p along side the gh (and by that time I will have upped the iu to 10 a day).
I am imagining something like the scene from captain america where the little kid goes into the capsule, and comes out captain america... Except I am already bigger than captain america.. So maybe I come out ronnie coleman. Just playing...
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were you using GH before you went on the kigs? that's pretty weird if you weren't and then dropped water weigtht from just using kigs
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sustanon is a waste of money. just get enanthate.
and, having just done nine weeks of tren ace 300mg/week and 750mg of test/week. i wish i would have kept the test between 250 and 500 a week and gone 600mg tren/week.
i want to look HARDER. i still look bloofy damnit. and i'm LEAN. just lots of water messing up my lines. if you don't have abs and a lean pussy pulling face what's the fucking point anyway? to impress other bloofs with how much weight you're pressing??? fuck that
i'm anxious to try masteron. you'll have to post progress pics to show how this turns out.
also you're wasting your money if you plan on going "off" again. you'll loose everything you gain when off hormones from this point on. just warning you.
hell right now I am on just 4IU's of HGH I have not started this cycle yet waiting for one more item. but I got weighed today when i saw my doctor and I was at 195 8% BF. my face is always lean but when I hit the AAS some compounds do give me test face usually just orals do it for me. I use suspension alot and dont get test face. but throw in soe dianabol and I get test face.
My body stays lean but it's natural to get a little puffy in the face. I never look bloofy though I usually stay pretty rock hard due to my low bf%. my BF has never gotten higher than 12%. even at 12% I look fairly lean. I can pull down women without getting real jacked up as I always look jacked compared to everybody else at clubs. but my main goal is to beak 205 at 6%. I rather use more halo then tren. Tren makes me a real dick and gives me that trensomnia I bitch about. I love halotestin I never get sides from it and I get great workouts everytime. I like Tren but it is highly androgenic and since I am not competing all I really need is 300mg. strango told me this tren batch is insane so at 300mg I should get pretty ripped. I also have parabolin I might use. this is alpha -pharmas parabolin-Tren-Hex and I am intersted in trying it as I hear it is potent. good parabolin is hard to find. its 76.5mg per ml. so I might find a way to use them both. maybe a couple shots of parabolin combined with the tren A.
also I have abs I just want thicker abs that is my other goal. HGH helps with that but I just do not get enouigh of it. 4Iu's a day is not enough but better than nothing as I only run one cycle a year these days. I used to be on for 9 months out of the year but last 3 years I usually just run 1 good cycle and run the HGH year round at just 4IU's I am always guaranteed 1 kit of USA grade HGH a month and it keeps my gains from totally disappearing . Plus I workout pretty hard and have the money to eat real well. if I get 10pds LBM I will be happy I will get more than that but some of it will be water and fat of course. I am looking to get pretty big in the beginning but end up lean and 10 pds heavier maybe 15 pds heavier but I would be happy with 10 solid lean pounds.I will probably weigh 20 pounds after just 4 weeks on this cycle but like I said it wont all be muscle I am going to have to get rid of some water weight and a little fat.
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Just wanted to say thank you WW for the help and best of luck with this epic cycle you got going on here. 8)
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WW tren at 300mg?is shit! send the strango to me ;D ;D ;D
good luck man keep us posted 8)
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were you using GH before you went on the kigs? that's pretty weird if you weren't and then dropped water weigtht from just using kigs
I have used blue tops and serostim in the past but sparingly.
And I did not lose water weight, in fact I have gained some- it just appears to have redistributed. I apologize if I was not clear about this. My waist looks tighter, but my upper body appears to have gained quite a bit of water weight in the past 3 weeks of 5iu gh a day.
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White Widow, what is your height? Just curious.
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White Widow, what is your height? Just curious.
went to doctor yesterday about 5-6/ 194 shoeless. 6-8 bf%. tis is right now only on 4 IU's of HGH. of course my BF% will go up when i first start this cycle. I am one of those guys who gains alot of weight quick on AAS/HGH I am talking I have gotten 18 pounds in 3 weeks before and it was pretty lean. some water retention but that is to be expected.
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went to doctor yesterday about 5-6/ 194 shoeless. 6-8 bf%. tis is right now only on 4 IU's of HGH. of course my BF% will go up when i first start this cycle. I am one of those guys who gains alot of weight quick on AAS/HGH I am talking I have gotten 18 pounds in 3 weeks before and it was pretty lean. some water retention but that is to be expected.
5'6'' and 195 lbs @ 8% is huge... HUGE. That's why i asked your height, because I had the feeling that you were one of the bigger guys here.. As I have heard it is 7 pounds per inch, so if you were 6 feet tall you would be roughly 240 lbs and 8%.
I'm in a similar boat as you regarding gh intake (I am on 5 iu) and relative size (I'm 5'11.5'' and 230 @ 6-7% bf).
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Fuck man, keep us updated. And for people who think that's not for personal use, haha I have a friend with 70 boxes thanktropin in his fridge
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5'6'' and 195 lbs @ 8% is huge... HUGE. That's why i asked your height, because I had the feeling that you were one of the bigger guys here.. As I have heard it is 7 pounds per inch, so if you were 6 feet tall you would be roughly 240 lbs and 8%.
I'm in a similar boat as you regarding gh intake (I am on 5 iu) and relative size (I'm 5'11.5'' and 230 @ 6-7% bf).
I give a illusion of weighing more and even being taller just being so muscular. But I am really that short and that is my exact weight/BF% as I had an appoitnment on the 14th. I am able to lift pretty heavy due to range of motion.Taller people seem to have a harder time with some of the lifts I do just because my arms are not as long.
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Fuck man, keep us updated. And for people who think that's not for personal use, haha I have a friend with 70 boxes thanktropin in his fridge
maybe I will take a few more snaps that is not even all my gear. I just dont have HGH like that! I have a hard time paying for HGH that is hit or miss. I don't have those pro bodybuilder human grade HGH hook-ups. Do you guys think pros really use chinese HGH? serious question? they might? but from what I know most of them chase for human grade. dosn't mean they find it but someone like jay cuttler or Phil heath must have a way to get numerous kits of human grade. I have only known 2 people who have obtained legit prescriptions.it is expensive and your insurance will give you crap if they do not think you need it. your doctor has to give a legit reason like having HIV or a bad burn victim. same goes for any expensive drug. Insurance companys are cheap. after I got in my car wreck. My oxycontin bill was 936$ a month and they gave me crap for it. wanted to put me on something cheaper that didn't work as well but my doctor was the one they were harassing and he had to write them a note and give them reasons for the prescription. Insurance companys are cheap you pay year round and don't need much from them, then when you need them they try to screw you. I miss legit Jintropins.
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I haven't read the whole thread, but from what I've read......
Sust, Test-e, Cyp, etc....who cares, it'll all work.
That said, there was a time when I was convinced Sust was better than the rest, but years later I really believe it doesn't make that much difference. At the same time, I do prefer single ester testosterones, it's simply easier to maintain peak levels at all times. If I had it my way I'd take 200-250mg of Test-e or Cyp every other day all the time.
This thread makes me miss supplementing. Oh well, such is life....I need to find a new hobby, because no cycle life drives me nuts but unfortunately I can't and until the law changes (I hope it does) I'll never supplement again. Sucks, but it is what it is.
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I haven't read the whole thread, but from what I've read......
Sust, Test-e, Cyp, etc....who cares, it'll all work.
That said, there was a time when I was convinced Sust was better than the rest, but years later I really believe it doesn't make that much difference. At the same time, I do prefer single ester testosterones, it's simply easier to maintain peak levels at all times. If I had it my way I'd take 200-250mg of Test-e or Cyp every other day all the time.
This thread makes me miss supplementing. Oh well, such is life....I need to find a new hobby, because no cycle life drives me nuts but unfortunately I can't and until the law changes (I hope it does) I'll never supplement again. Sucks, but it is what it is.
I seem to stay leaner on sust. I blow up but I look leaner.I get to much water from cyp or enan. I love prop and suspension that is what I have mainly used in the past but thats a daily injection. I start feeling like a pin cushion. I love suspension. any drug I can feel right away I like. I am not a patient man. That is why I love halotestin so much
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I haven't read the whole thread, but from what I've read......
Sust, Test-e, Cyp, etc....who cares, it'll all work.
there's only a 2% difference in test per mg with enanthate vs cypionate (72% vs 70% respectively) so no, it's not noticeable.
however the one time i did cypionate it was a nuisance because it would fall out of suspension with the diluent and visible test crystals would be floating around. i made a post about my dilemma at the time. people told me, heat it up in almost boiling water a few times and if it keeps happening it's bunk gear. well, i had to heat it until there were no more visible crystals like that before every injection. and it certainly wasn't bunk! i gained 34lbs on that stuff. i've since read in an article from llewellyn that this is the nature of cypionate.
so i wouldn't buy cypionate again just because of it's inconvenient tendency to fall out of suspension.
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I like sust during 2 times:
1- For my cruise. Especially the strango sust... 350 mg/ml, perfect for one shot per week.
anyone tried testosterone undecanoate for a cruise? seems ideal plus you get a break from injections. (recognized brand name: nebido) i'm considering it anyway.
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anyone tried testosterone undecanoate for a cruise? seems ideal plus you get a break from injections. (recognized brand name: nebido) i'm considering it anyway.
that stuff is nasty! it wont do very much for you and it made me burp alot and you could really taste the oil when you burped like any injectable sometimes when you burp you can taste some oil but this gave me major burps. nasty stuff. only good thing about that drug is there are no counterfeits I believe you are talking about (andriol) oral testosterone undecanoate usually dose at 40mg per tab. If it effects the HPTA might as well cruise on anavar. anavar effects the HPTA mildly. alot of people bride with it though.
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that stuff is nasty! it wont do very much for you and it made me burp alot and you could really taste the oil when you burped like any injectable sometimes when you burp you can taste some oil but this gave me major burps. nasty stuff. only good thing about that drug is there are no counterfeits I believe you are talking about (andriol) oral testosterone undecanoate usually dose at 40mg per tab. If it effects the HPTA might as well cruise on anavar. anavar effects the HPTA mildly. alot of people bride with it though.
sounds nasty. :-X i was unaware of an oral option. reason i asked is bc i noticed geneza has an injectable preparation. i've never had the oil taste in my mouth with anything. never tried undecanoate though.
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sounds nasty. :-X i was unaware of an oral option. reason i asked is bc i noticed geneza has an injectable preparation. i've never had the oil taste in my mouth with anything. never tried undecanoate though.
LOL AT GENEZA.
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anyone tried testosterone undecanoate for a cruise? seems ideal plus you get a break from injections. (recognized brand name: nebido) i'm considering it anyway.
I have and I prefer sust because it fills me up more water wise, and I always lose a bit of mass and water whenever I go into my cruise by week 3 or so... So the added size and strength the sust provides is much appreciated..
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LOL AT GENEZA.
OK...
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OK...
RUN REAL GEAR BRO.
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RUN REAL GEAR BRO.
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sounds nasty. :-X i was unaware of an oral option. reason i asked is bc i noticed geneza has an injectable preparation. i've never had the oil taste in my mouth with anything. never tried undecanoate though.
i can usually taste tren when i pin it, since a little bit of the oil slides down the tip of the needle when i'm trying to push airbubbles out of the pin. also, if you've ever used anything with guaiacol you will not only taste it and exhale the smell but you will also smell that shit in your sweat. it is seriously the most nasty stuff i've ever seen, a mere sealed vial of oil containing that stuff will infect a room with it's noxious odor and the smell lingers for weeks.
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maybe I will take a few more snaps that is not even all my gear. I just dont have HGH like that! I have a hard time paying for HGH that is hit or miss. I don't have those pro bodybuilder human grade HGH hook-ups. Do you guys think pros really use chinese HGH? serious question? they might? but from what I know most of them chase for human grade. dosn't mean they find it but someone like jay cuttler or Phil heath must have a way to get numerous kits of human grade. I have only known 2 people who have obtained legit prescriptions.it is expensive and your insurance will give you crap if they do not think you need it. your doctor has to give a legit reason like having HIV or a bad burn victim. same goes for any expensive drug. Insurance companys are cheap. after I got in my car wreck. My oxycontin bill was 936$ a month and they gave me crap for it. wanted to put me on something cheaper that didn't work as well but my doctor was the one they were harassing and he had to write them a note and give them reasons for the prescription. Insurance companys are cheap you pay year round and don't need much from them, then when you need them they try to screw you. I miss legit Jintropins.
I have never known legit jintropins, however I have been burned with fakes twice when I was a teenager or possibly 20 years old. That's why I will never order blue tops from anyone like oscaro again (rookie mistake placing orders from him). And I do not think that pros only use human grade gh. I actually believe that they load up on various types of proven, cheaper gh, such as pep's or kigs and I mean load up- ordering 500 kits at a time. It just seems so much more feasible than obtaining 500 kits of serostim. I mean, I know some amateurs who literally hang out at aids clinics and approach patients who appear to be "wasting" before they go into their appointments and make deals with them, and these dudes are still paying huge amounts for less than 100 iu (whatever the serostim equivalent is... I know it comes in mg, like 5 mg or whatever, and that comes out to less than 100 iu if I am not mistaken). I have no clue what these guys are doing, but they for some reason or another will not order anything that requires money order... a lot of them can't receive packages and live with their parents... some of them literally put every penny they earn into these little serostim deals, and the only way they get these pennies together is by selling drugs on the side, and they live with their mom and dad. It's a sad lifestyle. Now there is a much easier alternative, and it is using one of the real chinese brands. I understand that it is "hit or miss" in some circumstances, but you can figure out which ones are a HIT by reading some of the related threads on this board. Now I don't know how the pro's get their GH or what kind they get. But I believe that the way we get it (from china) is just a microcosm of the way they get it (... from china). Although maybe jay cutler hangs out at aids clinics asking patients to sell him their 5 mg kits of serostim, and he just goes from clinic to clinic with an ice cooler collecting his kits until he fills it, and then he runs back home and sits on his rocking chair, content.
or maybe i just drank way too much coffee tonight and i have no idea what i am typing.
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I have never known legit jintropins, however I have been burned with fakes twice when I was a teenager or possibly 20 years old. That's why I will never order blue tops from anyone like oscaro again (rookie mistake placing orders from him). And I do not think that pros only use human grade gh. I actually believe that they load up on various types of proven, cheaper gh, such as pep's or kigs and I mean load up- ordering 500 kits at a time. It just seems so much more feasible than obtaining 500 kits of serostim. I mean, I know some amateurs who literally hang out at aids clinics and approach patients who appear to be "wasting" before they go into their appointments and make deals with them, and these dudes are still paying huge amounts for less than 100 iu (whatever the serostim equivalent is... I know it comes in mg, like 5 mg or whatever, and that comes out to less than 100 iu if I am not mistaken). I have no clue what these guys are doing, but they for some reason or another will not order anything that requires money order... a lot of them can't receive packages and live with their parents... some of them literally put every penny they earn into these little serostim deals, and the only way they get these pennies together is by selling drugs on the side, and they live with their mom and dad. It's a sad lifestyle. Now there is a much easier alternative, and it is using one of the real chinese brands. I understand that it is "hit or miss" in some circumstances, but you can figure out which ones are a HIT by reading some of the related threads on this board. Now I don't know how the pro's get their GH or what kind they get. But I believe that the way we get it (from china) is just a microcosm of the way they get it (... from china). Although maybe jay cutler hangs out at aids clinics asking patients to sell him their 5 mg kits of serostim, and he just goes from clinic to clinic with an ice cooler collecting his kits until he fills it, and then he runs back home and sits on his rocking chair, content.
or maybe i just drank way too much coffee tonight and i have no idea what i am typing.
you have been drinking too much coffee. #1 there were tons of real jintropins before all these generic chinese brands appeared. They were spendy and highly counterfeited but the right sources had them for high dollar at a time you could actually get them from the company themselves. Jintropin were around 350-450$ for a legit kit anything less I would be skeptical.It was real 191-AA human grade HGH and it worked very nicely. then when they shut down even a little before all these cheap blue tops started showing up. I have been around for awhile way before blue tops or thanktropin or brown tops, green tops, all the same shit in my book. CRAP! Believe me Jay cuttler and other top pros do not hang out by aids clinics. they have dirty doctors writing them legit scripts in their name and other close friends names. serostim is 126IU kits. although they might prescribe some people less who knows but my boy gets 126IU's at a time. I cant picture Phil heath or Jay cuttler using chinese HGH. or ronnie coleman back a few years ago using chinese HGH. believe me they have ways of getting big amounts of human grade HGH and steroids. Jay cuttler does not use strango EQ like GH 15 claims. he is a top pro he uses human grade gear only. same with all the muscletech athletes. they deal with shadey drug dealing nutritionist who usually take care of their gear needs. just like football players have team doctors who get them any kind of drug they want.Only certain drugs like trenbolone they have a chef make them. Red star of china is one of the few UGL's who really had Mr. Olympia competitors use his gear but that is because the guy was well known and worked for gaspari developing gaspari products as well as running his UGL lab. but that all got busted up ages ago. I nwill say alot of amateurs use chinese HGH and UGL gear because they are on a strict budget. they dont have that whitewidow,jay cuttler money.-lol
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you have been drinking too much coffee. #1 there were tons of real jintropins before all these generic chinese brands appeared. They were spendy and highly counterfeited but the right sources had them for high dollar at a time you could actually get them from the company themselves. Jintropin were around 350-450$ for a legit kit anything less I would be skeptical.It was real 191-AA human grade HGH and it worked very nicely. then when they shut down even a little before all these cheap blue tops started showing up. I have been around for awhile way before blue tops or thanktropin or brown tops, green tops, all the same shit in my book. CRAP! Believe me Jay cuttler and other top pros do not hang out by aids clinics. they have dirty doctors writing them legit scripts in their name and other close friends names. serostim is 126IU kits. although they might prescribe some people less who knows but my boy gets 126IU's at a time. I cant picture Phil heath or Jay cuttler using chinese HGH. or ronnie coleman back a few years ago using chinese HGH. believe me they have ways of getting big amounts of human grade HGH and steroids. Jay cuttler does not use strango EQ like GH 15 claims. he is a top pro he uses human grade gear only. same with all the muscletech athletes. they deal with shadey drug dealing nutritionist who usually take care of their gear needs. just like football players have team doctors who get them any kind of drug they want.Only certain drugs like trenbolone they have a chef make them. Red star of china is one of the few UGL's who really had Mr. Olympia competitors use his gear but that is because the guy was well known and worked for gaspari developing gaspari products as well as running his UGL lab. but that all got busted up ages ago. I nwill say alot of amateurs use chinese HGH and UGL gear because they are on a strict budget. they dont have that whitewidow,jay cuttler money.-lol
lol. I need to get some of that white widow jay cutler donald trump money. then I can stop hanging out by the aids clinic.
just kidding lol (;
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hg is the only way to go! and then find a good tren source, then a good ug gh or better and you are on your way to growing ;D
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lol. I need to get some of that white widow jay cutler donald trump money. then I can stop hanging out by the aids clinic.
just kidding lol (;
lol- dont make me break out the camera.
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I have never known legit jintropins, however I have been burned with fakes twice when I was a teenager or possibly 20 years old. That's why I will never order blue tops from anyone like oscaro again (rookie mistake placing orders from him). And I do not think that pros only use human grade gh. I actually believe that they load up on various types of proven, cheaper gh, such as pep's or kigs and I mean load up- ordering 500 kits at a time. It just seems so much more feasible than obtaining 500 kits of serostim. I mean, I know some amateurs who literally hang out at aids clinics and approach patients who appear to be "wasting" before they go into their appointments and make deals with them, and these dudes are still paying huge amounts for less than 100 iu (whatever the serostim equivalent is... I know it comes in mg, like 5 mg or whatever, and that comes out to less than 100 iu if I am not mistaken). I have no clue what these guys are doing, but they for some reason or another will not order anything that requires money order... a lot of them can't receive packages and live with their parents... some of them literally put every penny they earn into these little serostim deals, and the only way they get these pennies together is by selling drugs on the side, and they live with their mom and dad. It's a sad lifestyle. Now there is a much easier alternative, and it is using one of the real chinese brands. I understand that it is "hit or miss" in some circumstances, but you can figure out which ones are a HIT by reading some of the related threads on this board. Now I don't know how the pro's get their GH or what kind they get. But I believe that the way we get it (from china) is just a microcosm of the way they get it (... from china). Although maybe jay cutler hangs out at aids clinics asking patients to sell him their 5 mg kits of serostim, and he just goes from clinic to clinic with an ice cooler collecting his kits until he fills it, and then he runs back home and sits on his rocking chair, content.
These guys you speak of must be shitty drug dealers! most pros use usa HGH and Human grade gear the ones with money anyway usually they have nutritionist that have a hook-up on these products . they dont take risks ordering gear and def do not hang out at aids clinics. some 2nd ,3rd tier pros might use chinese HGH and order gear. but not the top pros. guys hand them drugs on a silver platter
or maybe i just drank way too much coffee tonight and i have no idea what i am typing.
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lol what?
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lol what?
sorry it mixed in with your text
These guys you speak of must be shitty drug dealers! most pros use usa HGH and Human grade gear the ones with money anyway usually they have nutritionist that have a hook-up on these products . they dont take risks ordering gear and def do not hang out at aids clinics. some 2nd ,3rd tier pros might use chinese HGH and order gear. but not the top pros. guys hand them drugs on a silver platter
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sorry it mixed in with your text
These guys you speak of must be shitty drug dealers! most pros use usa HGH and Human grade gear the ones with money anyway usually they have nutritionist that have a hook-up on these products . they dont take risks ordering gear and def do not hang out at aids clinics. some 2nd ,3rd tier pros might use chinese HGH and order gear. but not the top pros. guys hand them drugs on a silver platter
oh I know. The guys I know who hang around aids clinics to get wasters to sell them their serostim kits are amateurs- in fact only one of them competes, and he competes in that natural federation. I bet you're right about the ease that the top pros get their shit. I can only imagine the resources that jay has in terms of gh and AS. *salivating all over my keyboard*
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lol- dont make me break out the camera.
do it bro, make it rain lol