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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: abijahmaniaco on December 17, 2011, 09:18:24 AM
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gh15 said that one of his secrets, and many of the pros, was to inject 100mg of tren ace daily using a 29 gauge 1/2" needle straight into the delt. i'm thinking about trying this in favor of so frequent IM injections. anyone have experience with this?
it would seem difficult to draw up, although i have recognized the viscosity is not as thick as test.
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Seems like a fucking hastle. Id go with the 27 atleast so you can draw up with a fatter needle.
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Seems like a fucking hastle. Id go with the 27 atleast so you can draw up with a fatter needle.
perhaps i could draw up with my standard 22g 1-1/2", then swap the needle for a 27g 1/2". that would be easy (assuming you can actually push tren through a 27g).
i already swap needles when combining injections so that i can have a sharp tip.
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i run tren like this always
i put 21g to draw then take out and put 29g and shoot very easy..i actually look forward to it ;D
or u can backfill slin pins but is harder imo
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strangos tren can push through a slin pin.its thin oil. thinner than most tren. I wouldnt say watery just thin.
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use a regular syringe to fill the slin pin from the back, takes a few seconds.
Then you can hit IM or subQ with the tren depending on it's purity/BA levels (bathtub tren with bacteria or high BA doesnt go down well subQ)
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Why overcomplicate shit - inject it into your muscle and move on with the rest of your day/evening , as long as its in your body who cares what barrel or needle you use :D
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i use a slin pin for everything, even nandrolone. still builds up scar tissue though, needle size difference between a 25gauge and 29 gauge isn't that great but i just prefer it
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i use a slin pin for everything, even nandrolone. still builds up scar tissue though, needle size difference between a 25gauge and 29 gauge isn't that great but i just prefer it
scar tissue comes from tearing open the muscle for the depot and filling it with irritating solvents :(
on the plus side the smaller, shorter needles make it easier to massage out those pockets.. and you have less chance of severing nerves with slin pins than with big harpoons
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Why overcomplicate shit - inject it into your muscle and move on with the rest of your day/evening , as long as its in your body who cares what barrel or needle you use :D
This ^^
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scar tissue comes from tearing open the muscle for the depot and filling it with irritating solvents :(
on the plus side the smaller, shorter needles make it easier to massage out those pockets.. and you have less chance of severing nerves with slin pins than with big harpoons
i know that it's the solvents and the hormones them selves that cause scar tissue for the most part but i still prefer a slin pin because it feels easier for me to be able to pin that way and like you said, avoid nicking veins or nerves.
i don't think there's a great chance of building up scar tissue from the needle itself unless it's a large gauge, and you have to do repeated injections into the same area like for seo usage.
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Why overcomplicate shit - inject it into your muscle and move on with the rest of your day/evening , as long as its in your body who cares what barrel or needle you use :D
i do bc i don't want my butt to look like dave pulumbo's in 15 years! :D
but seriously if you're gonna do ed injections of tren this seems preferable. why subject yourself to more pain/scarring than necessary?
use a regular syringe to fill the slin pin from the back, takes a few seconds.
novel idea. just pull out the plunger and back fill, hmm.
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DRAW UP IN YOUR NORMAL SYRINGE, TAKE THE PLUNGER OUTTA THE SLIN PIN AND THEN INJECT INTO IT. PUT PLUNGER BACK ON, STICK NEEDLE IN DELT,AND INJECT.
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DRAW UP IN YOUR NORMAL SYRINGE, TAKE THE PLUNGER OUTTA THE SLIN PIN AND THEN INJECT INTO IT. PUT PLUNGER BACK ON, STICK NEEDLE IN DELT,AND INJECT.
yeah, i got it bro. you don't have to yell. :D
Then you can hit IM or subQ with the tren depending on it's purity/BA levels (bathtub tren with bacteria or high BA doesnt go down well subQ)
first i've heard of tren via sq inject. llewellyn says some have relatively moderate success snorting ground up finaplix pellets though. :D
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how do you do your sub-q shots? i do them occasionally but, it's hit or miss. some times it works perfectly fine but other times it crashes and i get a depot of crashed hormone under my skin for weeks. do you inject it sub-q or do you inject it into the fat itself? how much do you usually do at once? i've never been able to use more than .25ml without it consistently crashing
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Id rather not bother with that hard red spot for weeks under the skin. So annoying and looks terrible. Bury that fucker deep
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Good TRT dr's use only subQ for TRT shots nowadays, I've done only subQ for test for almost a year and whenever I get bloodwork my test levels are just as high as when I shot IM
e2 can be a little higher but it's negligible
for tren I put it subQ all over the body, but if you go into areas without any fat the reaction can be quite painful and bad.. quads dont work for me anymore since I started cutting, but glutes/ waist/ side hip are all still good to go
on trainign days I put .3cc into the calfs or delts with the slin pin, just because it kicks in faster but really there's no need. It actually slows the hormone release so you could go EOD with subQ vs ED im
IM = muscle and nerve damage over the long term and scar tissue has deformed my delts and quads a little :(
"Good TRT dr's use only subQ for TRT shots nowadays"...If that's the case ??, find a new Doctor !! If the drugs being administered were ment to be injected sub-q...it would say so. But that's why on the side of most bottles it will say "For Intramuscular Use".
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"Good TRT dr's use only subQ for TRT shots nowadays"...If that's the case ??, find a new Doctor !! If the drugs being administered were ment to be injected sub-q...it would say so. But that's why on the side of most bottles it will say "For Intramuscular Use".
yeah, this really isn't about sq. In the posting i'm referring to, gh15 said, IF LEAN then you inject 29g 1/2" STRAIGHT into the delt (implying im; sq is always at a 45°). I don't consider aas via sq practical or orthodox.
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an update on this: tried it tonight. went off without a hitch. drawing was not a problem; neither was pushing. too early to tell, but still this just seems like the way to go.
i now wish i would have taken my 750mg of test enanthate in one im shot per week and just did my tren ace like this all along. oh well. you live and learn. :) thanks to gh15 for the tip on this!
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I started a thread on this a week or so. Have been running my cycle this way and love it. I pin right into the upper arm or shoulder. The real oily stuff takes a while to push, but not bad.
I'm living it!
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"Good TRT dr's use only subQ for TRT shots nowadays"...If that's the case ??, find a new Doctor !! If the drugs being administered were ment to be injected sub-q...it would say so. But that's why on the side of most bottles it will say "For Intramuscular Use".
It's called "off label use". It happens every fucking day in medicine for all sorts of things
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The real oily stuff takes a while to push, but not bad.
I'm living it!
yeah, i think it depends upon the diluent. i have some thinner stuff i'm running now that makes it easy.
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I'm pinning tren ace with a slin pin at 70mg a day in the delts. Occasionally I get a hard welt in the pin area that last for about 24 hrs with mild pain if any. Regardless of a welt or not is the tren getting completely absorbed?
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do you guys heat the tren ace before loading it up in a slin pin and shooting it?
seems like a hassle, why not just go with a 27g or something
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no on heating it.
it's not a hassle (at least for me). it's much more convenient, much less painful, and you're much less sore after.
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I've been heating mine, but it is thick oil, and I am not a pussy so I use a 22g 1 1/2" about 80% of the way in. It shoots pretty slow still.
No real pain to speak of, no blood other than a drop, and no cough, in fact about 10 mins after I take it I can breath like a marathon runner.
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Ya some oils are real thick if you brew your own like i do use ethyl oleate (sp) super thin like water.