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Title: Obama: Taces will go up in 11 days if House doesn't act
Post by: 240 is Back on December 20, 2011, 11:05:54 AM
aside from the fact that he's dorpping in "I just met the soldiers coming home from iraq - and the peole in congress need to learn from them...."


There was a deal that the senate dems and repubs agreed upon.  Dems caved on a lot - repubs came out high-fiving they had won so much.

Why is the House repub - essentially a tea party block - crashing this thing?
Title: Re: Obama: Taces will go up in 11 days if House doesn't act
Post by: Straw Man on December 20, 2011, 11:08:28 AM
Boehner has to be the least effective Speaker in modern history

Title: Re: Obama: Taces will go up in 11 days if House doesn't act
Post by: 240 is Back on December 20, 2011, 11:11:01 AM
Boehner has to be the least effective Speaker in modern history

Senate Dems are stunned.   Boehnner about to hold a presser in 5 minutes.

They "won" this one.  Senate Dems caved - did you see the video of Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell HIGH FIVING?  they kicked obama's ass, and the deal was overwhelmingly supported in the senate.  Senate repubs are pissed.

You got a bunch of amateurs in this tea party group, unforunately.  THey don't know how to take a win.
Title: Re: Obama: Taces will go up in 11 days if House doesn't act
Post by: Fury on December 20, 2011, 11:14:36 AM
Do you even understand the argument here? Dems want a two month extension and Repubs want one year. And to top it off, experts have said the dem plan can't actually be implemented.

Seriously, how can you spend so much time watching/reading about politics and still be this clueless?
Title: Re: Obama: Taces will go up in 11 days if House doesn't act
Post by: 240 is Back on December 20, 2011, 11:15:11 AM
Do you even understand the argument here? Dems want a two month extension and Repubs want one year. And to top it off, experts have said the dem plan can't actually be implemented.

Seriously, how can you spend so much time watching/reading about politics and still be this clueless?

Why did the senate repubs agree with this deal?

Why were they celebrating?
Title: Re: Obama: Taces will go up in 11 days if House doesn't act
Post by: Fury on December 20, 2011, 11:18:00 AM
If one ever needed more proof that watching MSNBC all day doesn't accomplish shit then look no further than 180.

Title: Re: Obama: Taces will go up in 11 days if House doesn't act
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 20, 2011, 11:39:14 AM
Boehner has to be the least effective Speaker in modern history



LOL!!!! 

You liked pelosi?    Things have collapsed from the day that commie thug twat took over.  Look it up. 

Title: Re: Obama: Taces will go up in 11 days if House doesn't act
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 20, 2011, 11:40:11 AM
I just hope this whole thing ruins Obama's vacation and he is forced to stay in DC.  That would be sweet.   

Title: Re: Obama: Taces will go up in 11 days if House doesn't act
Post by: 240 is Back on December 20, 2011, 11:41:39 AM
that doesn't answer the Q.


is the "FAIL" with the senate or the house?    If the bill sucks - then why did the senate repubs high five and vote for it?  They were laughing about a win. 

shitting on 240 for being a dumbass doesn't really answer that Q.
Title: Re: Obama: Taces will go up in 11 days if House doesn't act
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 20, 2011, 11:43:48 AM
that doesn't answer the Q.


is the "FAIL" with the senate or the house?    If the bill sucks - then why did the senate repubs high five and vote for it?  They were laughing about a win. 

shitting on 240 for being a dumbass doesn't really answer that Q.

Payroll companies are saying a two month extension is not workable.   2 months?  That is a fucking joke!   And screw the Senate GOP - they dont speak for me. 


And like i said - if this forces obama to have to not go on vacation - I will be thrilled.   
Title: Re: Obama: Taces will go up in 11 days if House doesn't act
Post by: 240 is Back on December 20, 2011, 11:46:28 AM
And screw the Senate GOP - they dont speak for me. 


Ahhhh - Gotcha.  Senate repubs are wrong here.
Title: Re: Obama: Taces will go up in 11 days if House doesn't act
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 20, 2011, 11:48:31 AM

Ahhhh - Gotcha.  Senate repubs are wrong here.

They are all wrong douchebag!  Obama is wrong for not leading and creating chaos, Reid is dead wrong for his failures, and mconnell is a pussy. 
Title: Re: Obama: Taces will go up in 11 days if House doesn't act
Post by: 240 is Back on December 20, 2011, 12:05:00 PM
Boehner is wrong, too?   Wasn't he the guy that wanted keystone added, and workd with the senate, and got what he wanted?

on friday - BOSHNNER HIMSELF supported the measure.

But his congress won't get behind him.

So to be clear - 33, you're saying Boehnner and all the senate Repubs are wrong, right?
Title: Re: Obama: Taces will go up in 11 days if House doesn't act
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 20, 2011, 12:07:50 PM
Boehner is wrong, too?   Wasn't he the guy that wanted keystone added, and workd with the senate, and got what he wanted?

on friday - BOSHNNER HIMSELF supported the measure.

But his congress won't get behind him.

So to be clear - 33, you're saying Boehnner and all the senate Repubs are wrong, right?

You are such a douchebag.     

Yes - boehner is wrong too!     He should never ever have agreed to anything even close to this.  and fucvking please blaming the GOP  - why did we even get to this point in the first place you fool? 


answer - Obama      He is to blame solely and entirely for this mess.   
Title: Re: Obama: Taces will go up in 11 days if House doesn't act
Post by: 240 is Back on December 20, 2011, 12:11:20 PM
Obama is to blame solely for this mess?

I'll concede every dem and obama = garbage.

however, you have the GOP speaker and the entire senate (and half of house, right?) supporting this bill.

you can't leave them outta the blame. 


My point is that if the repubs were united here, i'd understand.  But this is something the repubs were VERY happy with.  Now they get to wear the stain of "Americans' taxes went up 1500$ because of this small pocket of tea party people".
Title: Re: Obama: Taces will go up in 11 days if House doesn't act
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 20, 2011, 12:13:42 PM
Obama is to blame solely for this mess?

I'll concede every dem and obama = garbage.

however, you have the GOP speaker and the entire senate (and half of house, right?) supporting this bill.

you can't leave them outta the blame. 


My point is that if the repubs were united here, i'd understand.  But this is something the repubs were VERY happy with.  Now they get to wear the stain of "Americans' taxes went up 1500$ because of this small pocket of tea party people".



Stop being a clown - this is a phoney scam since the payroll tax funds SS!   
Title: Re: Obama: Taces will go up in 11 days if House doesn't act
Post by: 240 is Back on December 20, 2011, 12:32:09 PM


Stop being a clown - this is a phoney scam since the payroll tax funds SS!   

are the senate repubs corrupt for supporting it?  should we vote them out in 2012?

i can't get past this division.  Either the tea party is inept or the repubs in senate are evil and corrupt - which is it?
Title: Re: Obama: Taces will go up in 11 days if House doesn't act
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 20, 2011, 12:33:52 PM
are the senate repubs corrupt for supporting it?  should we vote them out in 2012?

i can't get past this division.  Either the tea party is inept or the repubs in senate are evil and corrupt - which is it?

Dear God - just STFU already.   You are mindless.    Again you fool - HOW DID THIS ALL COME ABOUT IN THE FIRST PLACE!   
Title: Re: Obama: Taces will go up in 11 days if House doesn't act
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 20, 2011, 12:38:37 PM
Christie destroys your bullshit talking points.   

Title: Re: Obama: Taces will go up in 11 days if House doesn't act
Post by: Fury on December 20, 2011, 12:50:52 PM
The house already passed a one year extension. All the senate had to do was take the right choice and approve the bill with the Keystone pipeline but they're too pussy to do that because it would put 240's King against the wall.

Surprise, surprise, Obama pissing on thousands of potential jobs to get reelected.
Title: Re: Obama: Taces will go up in 11 days if House doesn't act
Post by: Fury on December 20, 2011, 12:55:58 PM
This guy and his supporters are hilarious. Pass this democrat bill or else you hate Americans!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Obama: Taces will go up in 11 days if House doesn't act
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 20, 2011, 12:57:07 PM
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/12/20/video-president-obama-slams-house-vote-against-payroll-tax-cut-deal-calls-out-republicans-for-their-refusal-to-cooperate/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+FoxNewsInsider+%28Fox+News+Inside



Obama is such a cry baby.   
Title: Re: Obama: Taces will go up in 11 days if House doesn't act
Post by: Fury on December 20, 2011, 01:00:41 PM
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/12/20/video-president-obama-slams-house-vote-against-payroll-tax-cut-deal-calls-out-republicans-for-their-refusal-to-cooperate/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+FoxNewsInsider+%28Fox+News+Inside



Obama is such a cry baby.   

House passes a one year extension. The dem senate then rejects that and passes a joke of a 2 month extension. Then in typical fashion, the DNC mouthpiece on here, 240, gets on and tries to tell us how a 2 month extension is better than a 12 month one. Too funny.
Title: Re: Obama: Taces will go up in 11 days if House doesn't act
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 20, 2011, 01:04:48 PM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/12/19/krauthammer_senate_payroll_tax_bill_an_abomination_worst_ever_crafted_by_man.html




"This shows to an outside observer, who know about this stuff and have no political axe to grind. This is the bill passed by the Senate is an abomination. It's one of the worst ever crafted by the hands of man. Saying that in this Congress is saying a lot," Krauthammer said about the fight over a two-month or one-year extension.

"It can't be administered probably in time, and fairly," Krauthammer said about the two-month extension. "It's nuts as tax policy, a two-month extension. A one-year extension isn't even a tax cut, it's a tax holiday. This is a -- to do two-month extension is essentially a long tax weekend. It's not going to have any effect whatsoever on hiring practices. The idea that Obama saying that this is a jobs provision is not going to have any affect on jobs whatsoever. So it's a terrible bill."

"The House Republicans are right on principle and on policy. But on the politics of it, they are going to get killed on this. And that's the irony, that they people who are actually trying to do the right thing by extending it to at least a year, are being trapped. The Democrats have set a trap, and the Republicans are walking in on it. It's a perfect example of in a corrupt environment if you act on principle, as I think the conservatives in the House are doing, you will are going to get nailed on politics," Krauthammer concluded.



Title: Re: Obama: Taces will go up in 11 days if House doesn't act
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 20, 2011, 01:07:33 PM
House passes a one year extension. The dem senate then rejects that and passes a joke of a 2 month extension. Then in typical fashion, the DNC mouthpiece on here, 240, gets on and tries to tell us how a 2 month extension is better than a 12 month one. Too funny.


Obama creates chaos and then blames everyone else.   
Title: Re: Obama: Taces will go up in 11 days if House doesn't act
Post by: tonymctones on December 20, 2011, 03:47:07 PM
what are "taces" is that the new term obama is using so he can raise taxes but not call it taxes like in the health care bill?
Title: Re: Obama: Taces will go up in 11 days if House doesn't act
Post by: MCWAY on December 21, 2011, 05:47:38 AM
The house already passed a one year extension. All the senate had to do was take the right choice and approve the bill with the Keystone pipeline but they're too pussy to do that because it would put 240's King against the wall.

Surprise, surprise, Obama pissing on thousands of potential jobs to get reelected.

All this is about is Obama, trying to blame Republicans for HIS bungling.