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Gallup: Number of Americans Who View Country Through Class-Warfare Prism Declines To Pre-Obama Levels
Fewer Americans See U.S. Divided Into "Haves," "Have Nots"
The majority would put themselves in the "haves" category if they had to choose
by Lymari Morales
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Americans are now less likely to see U.S. society as divided into the "haves" and "have nots" than they were in 2008, returning to their views prior to that point. A clear majority, 58%, say they do not think of America in this way, after Americans were divided 49% to 49% in the summer of 2008.
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The shift, documented by a Gallup poll conducted Nov. 28-Dec. 1, is noteworthy in that it came after 3 ½ years of economic turmoil in which more Americans have become unemployed and more have become negative about their personal finances. The current poll was also conducted as the Occupy Wall Street movement continues to focus on the disparities between the wealthiest 1% of Americans and everyone else.
If they had to choose, 58% of Americans would say they are in the "haves," rather than the "have nots" group. This breakdown has held remarkably steady over the past two decades of economic boom and bust, with a record-high 67% of Americans putting themselves in the "haves" category during the strong economic times of the late 1990s.
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Not surprisingly, Republicans and Democrats are on opposite ends of the spectrum in both cases, with Democrats more likely than Republicans to say society is divided into haves and have nots, and more likely to see themselves in the "have nots" group. However, it is independents and moderates who since 2008 have grown significantly less likely to see society this way.
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Postgraduates and those making $75,000 or more per year join Republicans as those most likely to label themselves as "haves." Americans making less than $30,000 per year, nonwhites, those with a high school education or less, and those not employed join Democrats as the groups most likely to label themselves as "have nots."
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Implications
Americans' views of their own position as "haves" or "have nots" have been remarkably stable, even as the nation's economic problems have intensified. Still, the finding that fewer Americans now than in 2008 consider U.S. society as divided into "haves" and "have nots" suggests a decreasing -- rather than increasing -- level of worry about unfair income distribution in the U.S. at this time.
As populists and politicians have made inequality more of a political issue, moderates and independents in particular are turning away from the idea of a society divided in two. Thus, Americans as a whole are no more likely to see the country as divided into haves and have nots than at any time in the past two decades.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/151556/Fewer-Americans-Divided-Haves-Nots.aspx
What strategy will they gravitate towards next?
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Where does Gallup say "leftist class warfare"?
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who pushes the haves and have nots kind of agenda straw?
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who pushes the haves and have nots kind of agenda straw?
The people who can afford lobbyists
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The people who can afford lobbyists
LOL orrrrrrrrrr
Obama
pelosi
schwartz
jackson lee
reid
etc.
etc..
etc...
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LOL orrrrrrrrrr
Obama
pelosi
schwartz
jackson lee
reid
etc.
etc..
etc...
LoL right back
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Looks like right wing class warfare is still working fine
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thats funny whats that sharp increase under clinton doing there?
how much is their "fair" share straw?
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thats funny whats that sharp increase under clinton doing there?
how much is their "fair" share straw?
no idea
nothing in anything you or I posted talks about fairness
still looking for the part where Gallup says the "leftist clas warfare strategy" isn't working
I can't even find leftist or class warfare
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no idea
nothing in anything you or I posted talks about fairness
still looking for the part where Gallup says the "leftist clas warfare strategy" isn't working
I can't even find leftist or class warfare
LOL does the term "fair share" mean anything to you?
whos been yelling that phrase for 3 years now?
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LOL does the term "fair share" mean anything to you?
whos been yelling that phrase for 3 years now?
who has been yelling that?
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who has been yelling that?
ARE YOU FUCKING JOKING?
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ARE YOU FUCKING JOKING?
No
I see neither you nor Tony has an answer
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No
I see neither you nor Tony has an answer
Straw - do you consider yourself informed?
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Straw - do you consider yourself informed?
I consider him one of the five dumbest people on this board.
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still waiting for someone to show anyone YELLING about "fair share" and how that is actually class warfare
Does anyone here think it was class war far when Clinton raised taxes.
How about when Bush 1 did it?
How about when Reagan did it....multiple times
The whole idea of class warfare is classic Orwellian projection where the people who are doing something attempt to deflect attention by accusing others of doing the very same thing and you can quite cleary see the results of their efforts
To be clear, raising marginal tax rates a few % points back to the place where they were in the 1990's is not class warfare
taxing investment is the same way that we tax wages (you know stuff you get for actually work) is not class warfare
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still waiting for someone to show anyone YELLING about "fair share" and how that is actually class warfare
Does anyone here think it was class war far when Clinton raised taxes.
How about when Bush 1 did it?
How about when Reagan did it....multiple times
The whole idea of class warfare is classic Orwellian projection where the people who are doing something attempt to deflect attention by accusing others of doing the very same thing and you can quite cleary see the results of their efforts
To be clear, raising marginal tax rates a few % points back to the place where they were in the 1990's is not class warfare
taxing investment is the same way that we tax wages (you know stuff you get for actually work) is not class warfare
Why do we need to raise taxes?
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Why do we need to raise taxes?
you failed my test yesterday so no more responses to your stupid question
if you want to re-test that's fine
you can even take the same test and now that you know the answer you might have a better chance this time around
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you failed my test yesterday so no more responses to your stupid question
if you want to re-test that's fine
you can even take the same test and now that you know the answer you might have a better chance this time around
FAIL - why raise taxes Straw?
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FAIL - why raise taxes Straw?
yes you failed
usually I would require a 30 day waiting period but I'll make an exception for you
would you like to re-test?
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yes you failed
usually I would require a 30 day waiting period but I'll make an exception for you
would you like to re-test?
Hahaha, what a tool this guy is.
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Hahaha, what a tool this guy is.
next test is for you
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next test is for you
Sorry, you reduced yourself to joke status with your claims about the post office and George Washington.
As it stands, I find it entertaining to watch you waste so much time and effort avoiding defending any of your childish points.
You seem to think you're special on here when in reality you're a loser.
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Sorry, you reduced yourself to joke status with your claims about the post office and George Washington.
As it stands, I find it entertaining to watch you waste so much time and effort avoiding defending any of your childish points.
You seem to think you're special on here when in reality you're a loser.
LoL
whatever you say short bus
If you have a problem with my posts then you're free to not read them or respond
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LoL
whatever you say short bus
If you have a problem with my posts then you're free to not read them or respond
Straw - if we raise taxes and still have a 1.4 Trillion dollar deficit? Whats the point?
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Straw - if we raise taxes and still have a 1.4 Trillion dollar deficit? Whats the point?
are you ready to re-test?
just let me know
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Straw - if we raise taxes and still have a 1.4 Trillion dollar deficit? Whats the point?
Straw is a neo-Keynesian retard that thinks a few trillion more in stimulus will fix everything.
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Straw is a neo-Keynesian retard that thinks a few trillion more in stimulus will fix everything.
never said that
stop lying