Getbig.com: American Bodybuilding, Fitness and Figure
Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: Soul Crusher on December 26, 2011, 07:50:14 AM
-
Enjoy
-
-
-
what about his argument to you find convincing?
do you agree with all his views?
what exactly are your feelings on what he has stated regarding keynes, what do you agree and disagree with.
thanks.
-
what about his argument to you find convincing?
do you agree with all his views?
what exactly are your feelings on what he has stated regarding keynes, what do you agree and disagree with.
thanks.
Keynes was a NWO fascist who believed in having a self appointed group of elitists running everything and robbing people of purchasing power through inflation. He was an anti-semetic globalist who only opposed communism for the sole reason it gave some empowerment to the workers, at least in name.
-
-
-
-
Keynes was a NWO fascist who believed in having a self appointed group of elitists running everything and robbing people of purchasing power through inflation. He was an anti-semetic globalist who only opposed communism for the sole reason it gave some empowerment to the workers, at least in name.
hmmm so you also agree with other things rothband stands for? or are you just picking and choosing here.
keynes never lead to inflation or stagflation as it were, show me the evidence from the last stimulus bill, show me post ww2 when inflation and the economy turned downwards, oh ya it didnt. You have perverted ideas of keynes people half accounting for his theories mixing in this and that, that is not keynes.
-
hmmm so you also agree with other things rothband stands for? or are you just picking and choosing here.
keynes never lead to inflation or stagflation as it were, show me the evidence from the last stimulus bill, show me post ww2 when inflation and the economy turned downwards, oh ya it didnt. You have perverted ideas of keynes people half accounting for his theories mixing in this and that, that is not keynes.
Are you fucking kidding? Seriously? unbelievable. Again - show me even one instance of Keynsian bs ever working . just one.
-
hmmm so you also agree with other things rothband stands for? or are you just picking and choosing here.
keynes never lead to inflation or stagflation as it were, show me the evidence from the last stimulus bill, show me post ww2 when inflation and the economy turned downwards, oh ya it didnt. You have perverted ideas of keynes people half accounting for his theories mixing in this and that, that is not keynes.
LOL! Too fucking funny.
-
-
Are you fucking kidding? Seriously? unbelievable. Again - show me even one instance of Keynsian bs ever working . just one.
i just did the stimulus package saves numerous industries and did not cause inflation like those in your position have claimed. It's only downfall was it was too small, it kept your economy from completely collapsing, important industries would have gone bankrupt, airlines, auto-motive, education would have suffered tremendously.
if you cant see this then you are a blind puppet
-
i just did the stimulus package saves numerous industries and did not cause inflation like those in your position have claimed. It's only downfall was it was too small, it kept your economy from completely collapsing, important industries would have gone bankrupt, airlines, auto-motive, education would have suffered tremendously.
if you cant see this then you are a blind puppet
LOL!!!! No inflation?
Energy is higher
Food is higher
used cars are higher
Health Care is higher
Gold and Silver has skyrocketed
you can't be serious.
-
LOL!!!! No inflation?
Energy is higher
Food is higher
used cars are higher
Health Care is higher
Gold and Silver has skyrocketed
you can't be serious.
what are you talking about? what does that have to do with inflation are you purposely being that deceitful in argument or do you truly believe what you are saying? i am questioning how anyone could take the positions you take without being a moron or have some form of indoctrination like christianity or something. Like you dont seem stupid but yet you say stupid things, is this a sign of your intelligence or are you bad at arguing?
im being serious, i said inflation
you responded by listing the prices of commodities as indicating inflation has occured.
Your example are not inflation, there are so many variables wrt energy prices etc that you can't honestly believe that your response using this reasoning was a sure stead sign or marker for inflation.
why do you insist on lying or do you seriously not realize how you are? again im being serious, as an intelligent male to another how can you have such stupid stances on so many subjects?
do you view things as republican versus democrat or are you using reasoning to come to your conclusions? i use reasoning, do you stay within the party lines purposely or have you been that polarized that you cant critically appraise things because youve been brainwashed.
im having somewhat of epiphenous moment, you are so polarized by the propaganda etc that logic and rationality get discarded. Im not trying to insult you but as someone who did not or really does not give a fuck about politics but have recently become as much its odd to see people align more with parties then ideas, individual ones. I dont have liberal or repub ties i have many liberal views but some conservative, in fact many views.
do you act like this in real life? so staunch and unwilling to even consider someone elses point of view? so immune to reason as to willingly toss it aside.Like when you posted an article on global warming, i showed you it was false and a doctored study and it did not phase you, not for a second. You just shrugged it off and kept arguing the course as if what i said was favorable to your position. Are alot of people like this in america? is this why the country is so fucked up? its as if anti-intellectualism is a trend that is becoming huge, people who parrot lies and when confronted lie more never even wondering about the implications of lying on their life.
-
It's only downfall was it was too small, it kept your economy from completely collapsing, important industries would have gone bankrupt, airlines, auto-motive, education would have suffered tremendously.
I haven't seen any evidence that this was going to happen. Yes, you are right, it kept stagnant ailing companies who should have been left to go under to stay alive sucking up tax payer dollars just to collapse down the road. Bank of America is teetering on the brink of Chapter 11, GM is still struggling, education in all areas is worse now than it has ever been (quality and price both in public and higher education institutions).
It did succeed in the above, propping up failing industries who under a free market system would have been left to go under, and new companies to rise up and take their place. Instead we are left with a failed system of central planning that has only kicked the can down the road, not solved any of the problems that we faced 4 years ago.
So yes, I agree, it succeeded in its purpose. However, its purpose was doomed from the start.
-
hmmm so you also agree with other things rothband stands for? or are you just picking and choosing here.
keynes never lead to inflation or stagflation as it were, show me the evidence from the last stimulus bill, show me post ww2 when inflation and the economy turned downwards, oh ya it didnt. You have perverted ideas of keynes people half accounting for his theories mixing in this and that, that is not keynes.
Funny that you bring that up. Keynesian economists were screaming from the rooftops that the post-WWII drawdown of government spending would spark a massive depression... yet somehow it sparked prosperity. Things that make you go "hmmmm."
P.S. I do agree with everything Rothbard had to say about economics. :)
-
i just did the stimulus package saves numerous industries and did not cause inflation like those in your position have claimed. It's only downfall was it was too small, it kept your economy from completely collapsing, important industries would have gone bankrupt, airlines, auto-motive, education would have suffered tremendously.
if you cant see this then you are a blind puppet
Prove it.
-
still waiting for those real life examples.
-
-
FAIL
-
-
The idea of Keynesianism as a means of fixing an economy is dead. This lesson should have been noticed after Japan's lost decade (now two) but people are stupid. Much like the morons who think they can do communism/socialism better than the last group, there will always be a group of naive fools who think the same of Keynes.
-
The idea of Keynesianism as a means of fixing an economy is dead. This lesson should have been noticed after Japan's lost decade (now two) but people are stupid. Much like the morons who think they can do communism/socialism better than the last group, there will always be a group of naive fools who think the same of Keynes.
The theory of Keynesiansim isn't necessarily flawed, it's the application of it during fiscal recession and massive budget deficits that has been wrongfully applied through massive central planning. Something Keynes himself did not even hint at suggesting.
Some posters on this board attack the theory outright without really understanding it's premise or application, but then again, this wouldn't be Getbig if someone wasn't running around like with a loudspeaker and a doomsday sign strapped to their back.
-
The theory of Keynesiansim isn't necessarily flawed, it's the application of it during fiscal recession and massive budget deficits that has been wrongfully applied through massive central planning. Something Keynes himself did not even hint at suggesting.
Some posters on this board attack the theory outright without really understanding it's premise or application, but then again, this wouldn't be Getbig if someone wasn't running around like with a loudspeaker and a doomsday sign strapped to their back.
That is no different than those who claim socialism or communism as a theory is not flawed, just its implementation.
The same natural predictable results always occur when you have the human element involved.
-
The theory of Keynesiansim isn't necessarily flawed, it's the application of it during fiscal recession and massive budget deficits that has been wrongfully applied through massive central planning. Something Keynes himself did not even hint at suggesting.
Some posters on this board attack the theory outright without really understanding it's premise or application, but then again, this wouldn't be Getbig if someone wasn't running around like with a loudspeaker and a doomsday sign strapped to their back.
That's all well and good but the fact that no one applies it correctly during fiscal recession indicates that it's a flawed system.
-
-
-
-
That's all well and good but the fact that no one applies it correctly during fiscal recession indicates that it's a flawed system.
Well one wouldn't say that a jackhammer is a flawed tool if one were to use it to extract a tooth, the application of its use is guilty of being flawed.
The real issue here is central planning gone wild.
-
Well one wouldn't say that a jackhammer is a flawed tool if one were to use it to extract a tooth, the application of its use is guilty of being flawed.
The real issue here is central planning gone wild.
And why is that? The old phrase "power corrupts . . . . " comes to mind. And when the promises of the central planners fall flat and never pan out - what is always the response? Well we didnt spend enough, we need more control, etc etc etc.
-
-
-
The theory of Keynesiansim isn't necessarily flawed, it's the application of it during fiscal recession and massive budget deficits that has been wrongfully applied through massive central planning. Something Keynes himself did not even hint at suggesting.
Some posters on this board attack the theory outright without really understanding it's premise or application, but then again, this wouldn't be Getbig if someone wasn't running around like with a loudspeaker and a doomsday sign strapped to their back.
The thing is that Keynesianism is necessarily flawed. The very idea of "deficient demand" causing recessions is laughable and was destroyed as an economic theory in the 19th century - long before Keynes was around (see the debates between Say/Mill/Ricardo vs. Malthus). The entire basis of Keynesian economics rests on Keynes's supposed refutation of Say's law - but as it turns out, Keynes did not understand Say's law and the classical economists who did actually had far better insights behind what causes recessions than Keynes.
-
BTW, 333, I highly suggest you read and in fact study Rothbard's "America's Great Depression." Available for free online at mises.org. He nails it when it comes to business cycle theory and the history surrounding the Great Depression.