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Writes The New York Times’ Timothy Egan:
Representative Ron Paul, the congressman who favors the most minimalist American combat role of any major presidential candidate and who said all of the above quotes, has more financial support from active duty members of the service than any other politician.
As of the last reporting date, at the end of September, Paul leads all candidates by far in donations from service members. This trend has been in place since 2008, when Paul ran for president with a similar stance: calling nonsense at hawk squawk from both parties.
This year, Paul has 10 times the individual donations — totaling $113,739 — from the military as does Mitt Romney. And he has a hundred times more than Newt Gingrich, who sat out the Vietnam War with college deferments and now promises he would strike foes at the slightest provocation.
What seems, at first blush, counterintuitive makes more sense upon further review. There’s a long tradition of military people being attracted to politicians with Paul’s strict interpretation of the Constitution.
Not even a full 1 percent of Americans are active-duty military. The troops have become props for politicians who shower them with fulsome praise, while dreaming up schemes to send them into harm’s way.
Yet, these soldiers, sailors, air men and women, and assorted boots on the ground know the cost — in trauma, in lives ruined, in friends lost, in good intentions gone bad — of going to war far more than the 99 percent not currently serving. Where they put their money in a campaign, paltry though it may be in comparison to the corporate lords who control a majority of our politicians, says a great deal.
And if the overwhelming service support for Ron Paul is any indication, the grunts of American foreign policy are gun-shy about further engagement in “useless wars,” to use Dr. Paul’s term.
“It’s not a good sign when the people doing the fighting are saying, ‘Why are we here?’” said Glen Massie, a Marine Corps veteran who lives in Des Moines, Iowa, and is supporting Paul for president. “They realize they’re being utilized for other purposes — nation building and being world’s policeman — and it’s not what they signed up for…”
The young people who actually fought in Iraq know better. They can tell a phony warrior from a real one. And in Ron Paul, the veteran who served as a flight surgeon for the Air Force, the man some call crazy, they hear a voice of sanity — at least in the realm of war and peace.
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And yet the Neocon talking heads like Hannity and Levin insist that the sky will fall if he gets elected.
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And yet the Neocon talking heads like Hannity and Levin insist that the sky will fall if he gets elected.
I lost a close friend in Iraq. i was at the funeral in West Point Cemetary and remember it like it was yesterday. I remember cadets walking by in the snow looking on as if it could have been them.
For me - unless we are prepared to got to war and destroy everything in sight like Attila, take the gold, oil, resources, - not one american life is worth the pofs muslim savages or scum.
I would not trade 100,000 of those sand rats for american life with how disgusting, ungrateful, dirty, and vile those muslim animals are.
My thing is that
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I lost a close friend in Iraq. i was at the funeral in West Point Cemetary and remember it like it was yesterday. I remember cadets walking by in the snow looking on as if it could have been them.
For me - unless we are prepared to got to war and destroy everything in sight like Attila, take the gold, oil, resources, - not one american life is worth the pofs muslim savages or scum.
I would not trade 100,000 of those sand rats for american life with how disgusting, ungrateful, dirty, and vile those muslim animals are.
My thing is that
I'm liking your posts more and more lately!
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I lost a close friend in Iraq. i was at the funeral in West Point Cemetary and remember it like it was yesterday. I remember cadets walking by in the snow looking on as if it could have been them.
For me - unless we are prepared to got to war and destroy everything in sight like Attila, take the gold, oil, resources, - not one american life is worth the pofs muslim savages or scum.
I would not trade 100,000 of those sand rats for american life with how disgusting, ungrateful, dirty, and vile those muslim animals are.
My thing is that
I went to about six or seven memorial services for more than ten fallen Soldiers this year. Definitely sobering.
But one thing you learn about those brave young men is they volunteered to give their lives while serving their country. It isn't really about whether the war is "just" or "unjust." They care about the mission.
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I went to about six or seven memorial services for more than ten fallen Soldiers this year. Definitely sobering.
But one thing you learn about those brave young men is they volunteered to give their lives while serving their country. It isn't really about whether the war is "just" or "unjust." They care about the mission.
Do you believe the War in Iraq was a just cause? ???
Just curious
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I went to about six or seven memorial services for more than ten fallen Soldiers this year. Definitely sobering.
But one thing you learn about those brave young men is they volunteered to give their lives while serving their country. It isn't really about whether the war is "just" or "unjust." They care about the mission.
i'm not disagreeing - but you know what - many of those brave soldiers do not get the choice of why they are there and whether or not all stops are being taken to win and get out.
I value our citizens and soldiers over those ungrateful animals and sand rats to the point that unless we are there to win, take the loot to pasy for it and come home - not one more us soldier shoulsd die or family lose a loved one for this nosense.
These muslim savages, animals, beasts, thugs, and apes are not worth it.
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i'm not disagreeing - but you know what - many of those brave soldiers do not get the choice of why they are there and whether or not all stops are being taken to win and get out.
I value our citizens and soldiers over those ungrateful animals and sand rats to the point that unless we are there to win, take the loot to pasy for it and come home - not one more us soldier shoulsd die or family lose a loved one for this nosense.
These muslim savages, animals, beasts, thugs, and apes are not worth it.
Every single one of them is a volunteer, so from that standpoint they do choose, especially the ones who joined while we were in the middle of a war.
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Every single one of them is a volunteer, so from that standpoint they do choose, especially the ones who joined while we were in the middle of a war.
Channeling John Wayne again.
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Channeling John Wayne again.
Shut up fool. ::)
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Shut up fool. ::)
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lol :-*
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