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Shock Poll : Romney 45% Obama 39% [Drudge Headline]
Rasmussen Reports ^ | DECEMBER 27, 2011 | Rasmussen Reports
Mitt Romney has now jumped to his biggest lead ever over President Obama in a hypothetical Election 2012 matchup. It’s also the biggest lead a named Republican candidate has held over the incumbent in Rasmussen Reports surveying to date.
The latest national telephone survey finds that 45% of Likely U.S. Voters favor the former Massachusetts governor, while 39% prefer the president. Ten percent (10%) like some other candidate in the race, and six percent (6%) are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)
A week ago, Romney trailed Obama 44% to 41%. The week before that, he held a slight 43% to 42% edge over the president. The two candidates have been essentially tied in regular surveys since January, but Romney remains the only GOP hopeful to lead Obama in more than one survey. Despite Romney’s current six-point lead, his latest level of support is in line with the 38% to 45% he has earned in matchups with the president this year. However, Obama’s 39% is a new low: Prior to this survey, his support has ranged from 40% to 46% in matchups with Romney.
A generic Republican candidate holds a narrow lead over the president again this week as has been the case all but three times in weekly tracking since late May. Obama leads all the other named GOP candidates by as little as seven and as much as 15 percentage points. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, Texas Governor Rick Perry and businessman Herman Cain have all surged ahead of the president at one point but did not maintain those leads.
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Good news even if Ras trends Right.
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Good news even if Ras trends Right.
Look - I don't like or trust Romney and i know I will get dissapointed and heartburn once he gets into office, but compared to Obama - there is no choice at all.
Its about national survival at this point.
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Look - I don't like or trust Romney and i know I will get dissapointed and heartburn once he gets into office, but compared to Obama - there is no choice at all.
Its about national survival at this point.
lol...
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lol...
Obama second term equals 100% of bullshit.
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Obama second term equals 100% of bullshit.
But hey... all he has to do is equal Bush right.. in your words for 75% of his term.. he did an awesome job.. he just fucked up in 2006 correct?
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But hey... all he has to do is equal Bush right.. in your words for 75% of his term.. he did an awesome job.. he just fucked up in 2006 correct?
Wrong douchebag - Obama's first term has been a disaster. As for Bush - he went down hill in February 2005 when he tried to ram amnesty for ilegals though followed by Meirs, Katrina, etc.
Obama has had the first term of what most have as a second term, ridden with failure, corruption, collapse, cronyism, etc.
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If Bush had cut spending, we'd have been better off.
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LATEST MATCH-UP RESULTS CAN BE FOUND BY CLICKING HERE.
Obama
39%
Romney
45%
Dec 27-28, 2011
Obama
47%
Gingrich
37%
Dec 26, 2011
Obama
48%
Bachmann
35%
Dec 22, 2011
Obama
47%
Santorum
37%
Dec 16-17, 2011
Obama
43%
Paul
35%
Dec 10-11, 2011
Obama
46%
Perry
34%
Dec 4-5, 2011
Obama
41%
Huntsman
34%
Dec 2-3, 2011
Obama
42%
Johnson
27%
Oct 4-5, 2011
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If Bush had cut spending, we'd have been better off.
You mean congress.
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Obama second term equals 100% of bullshit.
No, according to Chris Rock, it means GANGSTA SHIT.
What are you going to do with 4 more years of Obama's cock staring you in the face?
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No, according to Chris Rock, it means GANGSTA SHIT.
What are you going to do with 4 more years of Obama's cock staring you in the face?
We already have gangsta shit - ever hear of Fast and Furious or Obama laundering drug money you incompetent fool?
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That's pretty mild compared to what he is going to do in his second term. You know the one he is going to get instead of resigning and seeking a pardon? ::)
Can your jaws handle four more years of sucking his schlong?
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That's pretty mild compared to what he is going to do in his second term. You know the one he is going to get instead of resigning and seeking a pardon? ::)
Can your jaws handle four more years of sucking his schlong?
And you applaud that? 2 ead border agents and 300+ dead in mexico and growing is ok by you?
Figures coming from an obamabot like yourself.
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huge - nearly 20 point swing - obama losing to mitt by 6, but leading newt by 10?
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If Bush had cut spending, we'd have been better off.
Absolutely. Unfortunately, Bush was too busy spending $1 trillion on blowing up third-world countries. That wasted $1 trillion could've literally doubled the size of the Bush tax cuts.
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And you applaud that? 2 ead border agents and 300+ dead in mexico and growing is ok by you?
Figures coming from an obamabot like yourself.
No answer about the pardon or the condition of your jaws?
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We already have gangsta shit - ever hear of Fast and Furious or Obama laundering drug money you incompetent fool?
Ever heard of Iran Contra?
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Ever heard of Iran Contra?
Yes I did, and don't remember 2 dead law enforcement agents, 300 + civilians dead and counting, 1500 assault rifles still unaccounted for him the hands of the drug cartels, or a deputy AG saying he did this at the best of the President.
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Ever heard of Iran Contra?
Well shit, they did it in the past so we might as well give the Messiah a free pass.
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Well shit, they did it in the past so we might as well give the Messiah a free pass.
Yeah, President Taft spent a lot of taxpayer dollars expanding the West Wing. This justifies all of Barry's spending to date. Afterall, other President's have spent money too...
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Well shit, they did it in the past so we might as well give the Messiah a free pass.
Not at all.. as ive stated many of many of many times as my plan as to not vote for Obama
(i swear you guys are retarded like seriously)
But its hilarious that you Ronald cock suckers cry about shit a president does as "the worst president ever" but the guy you cock suck has done on a grander scale...
taxes
bail out
money laundering
etc...
but this guy is the worst president ever..
get a fucking grip
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Not at all.. as ive stated many of many of many times as my plan as to not vote for Obama
(i swear you guys are retarded like seriously)
But its hilarious that you Ronald cock suckers cry about shit a president does as "the worst president ever" but the guy you cock suck has done on a grander scale...
taxes
bail out
money laundering
etc...
but this guy is the worst president ever..
get a fucking grip
LOL
8 years compared to 3. After 8 years of obama can you only imagine?
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Not at all.. as ive stated many of many of many times as my plan as to not vote for Obama
(i swear you guys are retarded like seriously)
But its hilarious that you Ronald cock suckers cry about shit a president does as "the worst president ever" but the guy you cock suck has done on a grander scale...
taxes
bail out
money laundering
etc...
but this guy is the worst president ever..
get a fucking grip
No, he's bad. Whether or not he's the worst has to be judged in a historical context and that will take time...probably a good deal of time.
But, given your past statements, I don't understand your support of RP.
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No, he's bad. Whether or not he's the worst has to be judged in a historical context and that will take time...probably a good deal of time.
But, given your past statements, I don't understand your support of RP.
Past statements such as?
one example
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Past statements such as?
one example
Such as people who go without health insurance. RP is not going to support Obamacare and it wouldn't surprise me if he either tries to overturn it or works to defund it.
RP's market competition and tax reforms may help, but I'm highly skeptical. And charitable giving by physicians is already being stretched to the max, IMO.
Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of Obamacare, I'm just not seeing RP's alternative doing any better and I can easily see fewer people being covered - something you've indicated you're against.
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Such as people who go without health insurance. RP is not going to support Obamacare and it wouldn't surprise me if he either tries to overturn it or works to defund it.
RP's market competition and tax reforms may help, but I'm highly skeptical. And charitable giving by physicians is already being stretched to the max, IMO.
Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of Obamacare, I'm just not seeing RP's alternative doing any better and I can easily see fewer people being covered - something you've indicated you're against.
Im no fan of Obamacare.. it sucks.. much to do about nothing. I said if we are going to spend the money, if we are to pursue it, it might as well help everyone. What we got now is pure shit, and is my main gripe.
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Such as people who go without health insurance. RP is not going to support Obamacare and it wouldn't surprise me if he either tries to overturn it or works to defund it.
RP's market competition and tax reforms may help, but I'm highly skeptical. And charitable giving by physicians is already being stretched to the max, IMO.
Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of Obamacare, I'm just not seeing RP's alternative doing any better and I can easily see fewer people being covered - something you've indicated you're against.
RP's alternative would do a lot to help those who need health care - the current health care market is underperforming because it is hobbled with government restrictions and regulations.
Is it any surprise that two of America's most regulated industries - health care and banking - continually disappoint Americans?
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RP's alternative would do a lot to help those who need health care - the current health care market is underperforming because it is hobbled with government restrictions and regulations.
Is it any surprise that two of America's most regulated industries - health care and banking - continually disappoint Americans?
Imagine the cost of computers and tv's if the govt regulated everything regarding those items?
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Imagine the cost of computers and tv's if the govt regulated everything regarding those items?
Imagine what would happen if computers were regulated the same way that pharmaceuticals are... we'd be getting a new computer every what? 25 years? We'd still all be using some piece of shit sold by IBM or Apple in the 80s. LOL.
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Im no fan of Obamacare.. it sucks.. much to do about nothing. I said if we are going to spend the money, if we are to pursue it, it might as well help everyone. What we got now is pure shit, and is my main gripe.
I think he'd pursue, highly unlikely to help everyone. The only one I think that would do that is universal healthcare and that's not going to fly with RP or most of the public, IMO. And I don't see market correction occurring...in fact history suggests otherwise.
Agreed on Obamacare.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/29/mitt-romney-iowa-caucus-2012_n_1174857.html#comments
LOL - some of the obamabots are pissed off Romney is not releasing his records! Ha ha ha ha ha ! ! ! !
Priceless.
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Good. Love him or hate him, he's the one with the best chance to beat Obama.
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Rasmussen: Romney tops Obama, 45/39;
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2826490/posts
Update: Party affiliation ratio in sample added posted at 12:15 pm on December 29, 2011
by Ed Morrissey
Two polls released today show Barack Obama in serious trouble for re-election. Rasmussen has polled Obama head-to-head against various Republican candidates most of the year, and in today’s matchup against Mitt Romney, Obama falls behind among likely voters to the widest margin yet:
Mitt Romney has now jumped to his biggest lead ever over President Obama in a hypothetical Election 2012 matchup. It’s also the biggest lead a named Republican candidate has held over the incumbent in Rasmussen Reports surveying to date.The latest national telephone survey finds that 45% of Likely U.S. Voters favor the former Massachusetts governor, while 39% prefer the president. Ten percent (10%) like some other candidate in the race, and six percent (6%) are undecided.
A week ago, Romney trailed Obama 44% to 41%. The week before that, he held a slight 43% to 42% edge over the president. The two candidates have been essentially tied in regular surveys since January, but Romney remains the only GOP hopeful to lead Obama in more than one survey. Despite Romney’s current six-point lead, his latest level of support is in line with the 38% to 45% he has earned in matchups with the president this year. However, Obama’s 39% is a new low: Prior to this survey, his support has ranged from 40% to 46% in matchups with Romney.
It’s Obama’s number that is more significant in these early head-to-head matchups. Republicans are still vigorously contesting a primary, which means Republicans haven’t united behind a candidate in the way Democrats are already lined up behind Obama. These head to head matchups will only truly be on an equal basis after the nomination has been wrapped up by someone, whether that’s Romney or another Republican candidate. An incumbent who can’t break 40% in a poll, especially at this stage of the race, is an incumbent in deep, deep trouble.
The internals of this poll show how. Obama is losing independents 45/29, while party loyalty on both sides is pretty stable; Romney gets 79/8 among Republicans, while Obama gets 80/11 among Democrats. Obama carries the under-$20K demographic and the two demographics above $75K, but only within the margin of error, while Romney wins the three middle-class income demos, two by double digits. But the big eye-opener is Romney’s six-point lead among women [see update II], which would be the kiss of death indeed in a general election for any Democrat, Obama included.
Why does Romney score so well against Obama now? A new Gallup poll might explain the shift:
Americans perceive Jon Huntsman, Mitt Romney, and Ron Paul as closest to themselves ideologically, and Michele Bachmann and Barack Obama as furthest away.
A USA Today/Gallup poll asked Americans to rate their own ideology — and the ideology of the eight major presidential candidates — on a 5-point scale with 1 being very liberal and 5 being very conservative. Americans’ mean score on this scale is 3.3, meaning the average American is slightly to the right of center ideologically. Huntsman’s score matches that at 3.3, but that mean rating excludes the 45% of Americans who did not have an opinion of Huntsman. Of the better known candidates, Romney’s and Paul’s 3.5 scores are closest to the average American’s ideology.
I’m a little skeptical of a poll that puts Ron Paul in the mainstream of American politics, but that’s what Gallup finds — at least for now, while Paul gets a late vetting in the primaries. The median ideology rating for Americans is a 3.3 on their scale, and Obama scores a 2.3, which is actually further to the Left than Michele Bachmann is to the Right at 4.0.
Here’s more context in how that benefits Romney:
Overall, 42% of Americans in the Dec. 15-18 poll describe themselves as very conservative or conservative, 19% as very liberal or liberal, and 37% as moderate. Those figures are in line with what Gallup has measured in recent years for ideological self-identification.
It’s safe to say that the conservative 42% of the electorate won’t be casting votes for Barack Obama in his re-election bid, and Romney has a closer affinity to the 37% in the middle than Obama does. That leaves Obama with the liberal 19% and a reduced draw on the moderates, which split 44/40 in the Rasmussen poll for Obama, not nearly enough for him to prevail.
Update: Andrew Malcolm has more thoughts about the Gallup results.
Update II: I misread the columns in the internals. Romney trails by six points among women, 40/46, not leads among them. My apologies.
Update III: Rasmussen informs me that the D/R/I in this sample is 33/34/33, which is very close to the 35/35/29 from the midterms. If anything, it might oversample independents just a bit, but otherwise looks pretty solid.