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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: Growth NOOB on December 29, 2011, 07:40:42 AM
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What do you guys think? I can grab more when this runs out but I want to plan what to do specifically with these. Should I contemplate even 30ius for 53 days?
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It's up to you.. if money isn't a problem run the highest dose you can...
if you never done hgh why not start with 10iu a day
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Stats? Previous gh usage?
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Spring what up bro. I was a pussy my first year and ran only 5iu/day. Now I'm running 15 iu of Kigs split into three doses. 1Pre bed, one awake, one post workout. I never looked better or felt better as I know u been having Some of the blues. It shall pass bro. I'm bumpin up to 21 iu next week. What are u runnin btw? I really like these Kigs as they cheap and zero sides. My IGF came in at 666 lol and I'm runnin a Gram of c or e a week. My bf is like nothing. Veins everywhere and my BP and liver values vastly improved. LB
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Spring what up bro. I was a pussy my first year and ran only 5iu/day. Now I'm running 15 iu of Kigs split into three doses. 1Pre bed, one awake, one post workout. I never looked better or felt better as I know u been having Some of the blues. It shall pass bro. I'm bumpin up to 21 iu next week. What are u runnin btw? I really like these Kigs as they cheap and zero sides. My IGF came in at 666 lol and I'm runnin a Gram of c or e a week. My bf is like nothing. Veins everywhere and my BP and liver values vastly improved. LB
are you the same guy from pro muscle? good to see you here. I was the only non hater
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160IU FOR 10 DAYS.
:D
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160IU FOR 10 DAYS.
:D
mother of god. I couldn't even imagine the horrid bloat, hand numbness, and excruciating wrist pain
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wish i could afford to run a fraction of that............... very jealous sitting here reading all these 8iu plus gh runs everyone seems to be running at the mo
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mother of god. I couldn't even imagine the horrid bloat, hand numbness, and excruciating wrist pain
LOL. BRB injecting 40iu of GH, 4 times a day. That would be awfully interesting.
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Run the higher dose, it'll much more beneficial
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are you the same guy from pro muscle? good to see you here. I was the only non hater
That's me brotha!
And thanks to rhino and everyone else for their input. I'm honestly considering doing something crazy like running 30ius.
I wish we had more onfo on mega dosing with hgh.
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gh15...said...you...need ...to...work..your...way ...up...to...mega...dose s..of...gh...
start...at...5...move... to...8...10...15...et... cetera...
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LOL. BRB injecting 40iu of GH, 4 times a day. That would be awfully interesting.
you will look like palumbo in no time, you should do it and then post some pics for our entertaiment ;D ;D ;D
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gh15...said...you...need...to...work..your...way...up...to...mega...doses..of...gh...
start...at...5...move... to...8...10...15...et... cetera...
I started off at 10 my first go and admittedly had somewhat bad sides. I've been priming myself with 5iu the past week so I think I'm gona jump right to 20iu in a few days lol.
This is gona be great. Definitely taking before and after shots.
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Some of you guys are fucken crazy. Why not 5-10 ius everyday until it runs outs. You don't think that shits going to make your heart and everything else grow! People are taking these strong compounds to lightly.
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but but, gh15 says its ok? ::)
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you will look like palumbo in no time, you should do it and then post some pics for our entertaiment ;D ;D ;D
LOL.
I doubt I can even afford 1600iu of GH. And for the love of god, I wouldn't if it'd make me Palumbo.
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What's wrong with having a big heart?
More blood flow, increased circulation, etc.
All positives ;D
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And 1600ius isn't nearly as expensive as you'd think. Everything included I got it for well under $2,000. Why not just splurge a little a tranform your physique?
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Kigs?
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What's wrong with having a big heart?
More blood flow, increased circulation, etc.
All positives ;D
actually a big heart causes the opposite of what u mentioned
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wish i could afford to run a fraction of that............... very jealous sitting here reading all these 8iu plus gh runs everyone seems to be running at the mo
if getting cheap hgh into canada wasn't such a fucking pain in the ass I would shoot 15iu a day no problem
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are you the same guy from pro muscle? good to see you here. I was the only non hater
Ya bro- called out Steve Murphy on fake shit and I get
Banned. Guess what- I was right. Kigtropin is the best I have had. The rips
Are not the same. I run 15-20 iu Kigs never look better zero
Sides and my IGF is high. Bro I been on boards since
The 90's and the truth hurts. Btw that scamming
Piece of shit is no longer a sponsor. They don't want me
On PM their loss. I'll bring what I got on
The table here. Good to see you.
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That's me brotha!
And thanks to rhino and everyone else for their input. I'm honestly considering doing something crazy like running 30ius.
I wish we had more onfo on mega dosing with hgh.
Spring run em high. U will never feel or look better. 20 bro. Split. I seen
U when u were in contest shape. More The better- gotta
Be clean. Rips are shit. Dirty. Kigs are
Top dog now like Gh15 say. That's what it is. Bro I'll post a
Pic of my legs when I get a Minut. Sik. The vascularity. My
Bf is like 2 or 3 or whatevet and I eat pizza ;)
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Ya bro- called out Steve Murphy on fake shit and I get
Banned. Guess what- I was right. Kigtropin is the best I have had. The rips
Are not the same. I run 15-20 iu Kigs never look better zero
Sides and my IGF is high. Bro I been on boards since
The 90's and the truth hurts. Btw that scamming
Piece of shit is no longer a sponsor. They don't want me
On PM their loss. I'll bring what I got on
The table here. Good to see you.
welcome to the thunderdome
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Spring run em high. U will never feel or look better. 20 bro. Split. I seen
U when u were in contest shape. More The better- gotta
Be clean. Rips are shit. Dirty. Kigs are
Top dog now like Gh15 say. That's what it is. Bro I'll post a
Pic of my legs when I get a Minut. Sik. The vascularity. My
Bf is like 2 or 3 or whatevet and I eat pizza ;)
Thanks my man!
These are novos. I never tried anything else but I absolutely loved the results I got from 10iu. How would you recommend running the 20ius? I IVed at least half my doses so I will probably do the same for my heavy dosing.
Also, what happened at ProMuscle bro? I was away from all the boards for months.
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if getting cheap hgh into canada wasn't such a fucking pain in the ass I would shoot 15iu a day no problem
Stavios my good man!
I have been a follower of your posts and appreciate any input you can provide. How would you run 20ius per day? I'm thinking 10ius upon waking up, then two 5iu shots throughout the day?
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Stavios my good man!
I have been a follower of your posts and appreciate any input you can provide. How would you run 20ius per day? I'm thinking 10ius upon waking up, then two 5iu shots throughout the day?
I'd just do 10iu waking up and 10iu before going to bed
why not 4 shots ? Cause I am too lazy to bring seringes with me during the day to do 2 more shots
not sure it would make any difference also
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I'd just do 10iu waking up and 10iu before going to bed
why not 4 shots ? Cause I am too lazy to bring seringes with me during the day to do 2 more shots
not sure it would make any difference also
Thanks for your input bro.
I am curious about what you said before. Without being too specific if you don't want to, but why is it so difficult to get cheap hgh in Canada?
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lol. i was banned from promuscle also. crybaby fucks. not to mention that pussy jello. lol. tough guy with another man in his avatar! fuckin homo. you and steven murphy must have made a ton w that hgh scam. tatoo
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160IU FOR 10 DAYS.
:D
jessie on promuscle did 50iu a day for a week. that's the most i've ever seen anyone claim to do with actual evidence proving it, as he subsequently posted pictures of his bloated feet that had worse cankles than my arthritis ridden grandma's legs. said he put on 40 pounds in a month, all water weight. funny thing too was they were riptropin so it made the water retention that much worse
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I had major sides for 2 straight weeks with just 5 iu of Kigs ed, 5 on 2 off. Major sides. Don't underestimate kigs or pharm grade., If you have been off gh for a while or are just coming on for the first time you will be miserable if you start injecting 15-20 iu daily at the beginning.
start @ 5 work to 8 then go to 10... etc etc etc.
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i would do ten IU's for 160 days. one shot a day post workout.
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Good to see you here strongrhino. I am a member on proM under another alias but i do miss your raw no bullshit attitude when it came to the drugs aspect
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welcome to the thunderdome
:) glad to be here. This more my style. I expose a fukin fraud (hgh anf igf.com)on other board and I get kicked off! Lol plus donate my time and funds for tests? I been on boards since
90's and you all seem my cup of tea. If I may help
Any way please feel free.
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That's me brotha!
And thanks to rhino and everyone else for their input. I'm honestly considering doing something crazy like running 30ius.
I wish we had more onfo on mega dosing with hgh.
what? I was talking to strongrhino. Not sure I recognize you
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:) glad to be here. This more my style. I expose a fukin fraud (hgh anf igf.com)on other board and I get kicked off! Lol plus donate my time and funds for tests? I been on boards since
90's and you all seem my cup of tea. If I may help
Any way please feel free.
if you even mentioned you ate pizza on there, they would go insane and probably ban you for saying that. We all know all bodybuilders eat 100% clean 100% of the time
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jessie on promuscle did 50iu a day for a week. that's the most i've ever seen anyone claim to do with actual evidence proving it, as he subsequently posted pictures of his bloated feet that had worse cankles than my arthritis ridden grandma's legs. said he put on 40 pounds in a month, all water weight. funny thing too was they were riptropin so it made the water retention that much worse
Did he report on his BP rate?
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Thanks for your input bro.
I am curious about what you said before. Without being too specific if you don't want to, but why is it so difficult to get cheap hgh in Canada?
Cause most sources don't want to ship to Canada cause our custom are too hard to pass by
so basically if you want to order from the internet, you have to have them shipped to the USA and drive over there to pick them and take the chance to lost them at the custom anyway
or you order from domestic source for 250-400$ a box, but they would be bluetops that you don't even know if that's actually hgh inthem
or you can by the hgh on the street and that goes from 500 to 1100$ a box depending on the brend
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:) glad to be here. This more my style. I expose a fukin fraud (hgh anf igf.com)on other board and I get kicked off! Lol plus donate my time and funds for tests? I been on boards since
90's and you all seem my cup of tea. If I may help
Any way please feel free.
I used to be on that board w you.. Welcome to the land of the free (thunder dome home of body build)
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Cause most sources don't want to ship to Canada cause our custom are too hard to pass by
so basically if you want to order from the internet, you have to have them shipped to the USA and drive over there to pick them and take the chance to lost them at the custom anyway
or you order from domestic source for 250-400$ a box, but they would be bluetops that you don't even know if that's actually hgh inthem
or you can by the hgh on the street and that goes from 500 to 1100$ a box depending on the brend
I second that..
I also think that sources up here are just repackaging generics, trying to make you believe that the gh was made legit in canada or even russia. Which is a crock of shit since everybody knows all this shit comes from china, unless its a true pharm brand. But i guess up north we dont really have much choice since are options are limited, so we will believe whatever these sources have to say... BUT on the bright side i'm about to make an order with a intl source who says he will gurantee delivery. We shall wait and see if he comes thru... I'll keep my fellow canadians posted ;)
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jessie on promuscle did 50iu a day for a week. that's the most i've ever seen anyone claim to do with actual evidence proving it, as he subsequently posted pictures of his bloated feet that had worse cankles than my arthritis ridden grandma's legs. said he put on 40 pounds in a month, all water weight. funny thing too was they were riptropin so it made the water retention that much worse
I followed that thread over there when he was making it. I know people think what I am doing is extreme but what Jesse did no doubt was nuts!
The main thing that worries me is the lethargy. I could deal with the pins and needles in my hands and arms. It was definitely painful for a few minutes after waking, but it overall wasn't too bad. The thing that got me for a few weeks was the lethargy. Every afternoon (until I got used to it after a few weeks) I could easily take an hour nap. Obviously not something feasible when working in my line of work. There were two seperate times when IU literally was out cold at my desk.
I am actually really excited for this though. I've been considering taking it to the next level for a while now.
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What do you guys think of my proposed cycle:
700mg sust per week
600mg tren-e per week
100mg anadrol every day (for 5 weeks or so)
20iu novotropin hgh every day
50mg proviron every day
500ius hcg per week
50-75mcg T3 every day for a few weeks
I am considering throwing in some arimidex. I have never used arimidex before but a few people have recommended running it. Can anyone share their thoughts on this and if it will be necessary?
Thanks!
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What do you guys think of my proposed cycle:
700mg sust per week
600mg tren-e per week
100mg anadrol every day (for 5 weeks or so)
20iu novotropin hgh every day
50mg proviron every day
500ius hcg per week
50-75mcg T3 every day for a few weeks
I am considering throwing in some arimidex. I have never used arimidex before but a few people have recommended running it. Can anyone share their thoughts on this and if it will be necessary?
Thanks!
i think aromasin is better than adex, it works better and doesn't seem to have as bad side effects when running it for long durations. if you aren't getting gyno from high estrogen, or bloofy (you will get bloofy from drol anyways) there's no reason to run an ai, since ai's will ruin your cholesterol levels and make your joints ache, i wouldn't run them unless i felt they were needed. letrozole as the last resort if you are getting incurable gyno, but it's strong stuff.
cycle looks good, i don't think you can go wrong with a lot of anabolics and GH, just get a good diet and training regime so you don't waste the cycle. i'd keep the t3 levels more consistent though, no sense in randomly dosing t3 and bouncing your thyroid levels all over because it takes a month for your thyroid to fully recover so day to day fluctuations in dosing, when you are already suppressing your thyroid, is just going to leave you with inconsistent t3 levels.
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I second that..
I also think that sources up here are just repackaging generics, trying to make you believe that the gh was made legit in canada or even russia. Which is a crock of shit since everybody knows all this shit comes from china, unless its a true pharm brand. But i guess up north we dont really have much choice since are options are limited, so we will believe whatever these sources have to say... BUT on the bright side i'm about to make an order with a intl source who says he will gurantee delivery. We shall wait and see if he comes thru... I'll keep my fellow canadians posted ;)
seems good 8)
keep us updated !
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what? I was talking to strongrhino. Not sure I recognize you
Alpha that's springwater. He good- maybe he post some of the pics I saw in contest shape before he touched HGH. Beast mode. I'm glad to be here. The censored board really pissed me off. I had definitive Evidence of a scammer named Steven Murphy and I post spectrometry assay showing Corn starch and mannitol being sold and I'm booted from pm and UG. Also donated second highest $ for testing. Well as it turned out hghandigf1.com was a scam. They should ask me back And publicly apologize. LISTEN TO GH15 he knows his shit 100% and We are lucky to have him here. On PM the fat moderator claimed
He was someone else linked via ip address. Maybe the fat moderator should come over here and learn something. Anyway good to see you alpha and I'll get some Pics of me on only 10 iu of Kigs- now 20. Never look or feel better. Springwater do your thing bro and post your good pics so the boys know what up!
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i think aromasin is better than adex, it works better and doesn't seem to have as bad side effects when running it for long durations. if you aren't getting gyno from high estrogen, or bloofy (you will get bloofy from drol anyways) there's no reason to run an ai, since ai's will ruin your cholesterol levels and make your joints ache, i wouldn't run them unless i felt they were needed. letrozole as the last resort if you are getting incurable gyno, but it's strong stuff.
cycle looks good, i don't think you can go wrong with a lot of anabolics and GH, just get a good diet and training regime so you don't waste the cycle. i'd keep the t3 levels more consistent though, no sense in randomly dosing t3 and bouncing your thyroid levels all over because it takes a month for your thyroid to fully recover so day to day fluctuations in dosing, when you are already suppressing your thyroid, is just going to leave you with inconsistent t3 levels.
Thank you very much for your input.
I may pass on the arimidex or any ai for now.
Can you comment more on what you were saying about T3? I am not sure I follow what you mean. I read lots of different T3 protocols and am not sure which to follow. I ran up to 75mcg for 2 weeks (after 2 weeks of 50mcg) with good results, but I was also on 10iu growth and test. I have been doing 25mcg for the past 10 days or so. How would you recommend I run it?
Also, do you think I am running the test and tren high enough for the correlating high dose of gh? Some have even said it's a waste to not run at least a gram of test on 10ius, let alone 20iu. What are your thoughts? Thanks
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Alpha that's springwater. He good- maybe he post some of the pics I saw in contest shape before he touched HGH. Beast mode. I'm glad to be here. The censored board really pissed me off. I had definitive Evidence of a scammer named Steven Murphy and I post spectrometry assay showing Corn starch and mannitol being sold and I'm booted from pm and UG. Also donated second highest $ for testing. Well as it turned out hghandigf1.com was a scam. They should ask me back And publicly apologize. LISTEN TO GH15 he knows his shit 100% and We are lucky to have him here. On PM the fat moderator claimed
He was someone else linked via ip address. Maybe the fat moderator should come over here and learn something. Anyway good to see you alpha and I'll get some Pics of me on only 10 iu of Kigs- now 20. Never look or feel better. Springwater do your thing bro and post your good pics so the boys know what up!
Thanks brother! I am going to take some before shots, and certainly after shots.
How does my proposed cycle look to you? Anything you would change?
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Thank you very much for your input.
I may pass on the arimidex or any ai for now.
Can you comment more on what you were saying about T3? I am not sure I follow what you mean. I read lots of different T3 protocols and am not sure which to follow. I ran up to 75mcg for 2 weeks (after 2 weeks of 50mcg) with good results, but I was also on 10iu growth and test. I have been doing 25mcg for the past 10 days or so. How would you recommend I run it?
Also, do you think I am running the test and tren high enough for the correlating high dose of gh? Some have even said it's a waste to not run at least a gram of test on 10ius, let alone 20iu. What are your thoughts? Thanks
yeah, you are definitely running a significant dosage of anabolics because tren is a very, very potent androgen with high binding affinity and a strong binding ability. then you also have testosterone as well as 700mg of drol a week, both the drol and testo work on causing muscle cell hypertrophy via growth pathways other than by directly binding to the androgen receptor sites, so you have all your bases covered with gear and the GH. the only thing i would add to this would be insulin, but you know, personal preference and it's not necessary.
what i meant about keeping your t3 dosage consistent was keeping it at the same dosage daily, rather than using random daily dosage (which i wasn't sure if that's what you meant by "50-75mg t3 ed"), but it appears you weren't doing that and just experimenting with different weekly dosages. i didn't mean to imply anything bad would happen as a result, just that the t3 would work more optimally when you were dosing it consistently each day since t3 is absorbed and becomes active very quickly after ingestion, and has a half life of somewhere around 1-2 days so as a result you'd have fluctuating t3 levels when ideally you'd just want a nice consistent t3 level in the blood for the desired effects.
50-75mg of t3 is a good dosage to run for a long duration usage, if you go higher, you're going to start hitting dosages primarily for cutting. not that you can't gain mass on high t3 dosages, but it's like trying to skate uphill and you are working against yourself since t3 vastly increases protein turnover, which means protein synthesis and protein degradation, the latter is going to make it more difficult to add real muscle fiber.
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Alpha that's springwater. He good- maybe he post some of the pics I saw in contest shape before he touched HGH. Beast mode. I'm glad to be here. The censored board really pissed me off. I had definitive Evidence of a scammer named Steven Murphy and I post spectrometry assay showing Corn starch and mannitol being sold and I'm booted from pm and UG. Also donated second highest $ for testing. Well as it turned out hghandigf1.com was a scam. They should ask me back And publicly apologize. LISTEN TO GH15 he knows his shit 100% and We are lucky to have him here. On PM the fat moderator claimed
He was someone else linked via ip address. Maybe the fat moderator should come over here and learn something. Anyway good to see you alpha and I'll get some Pics of me on only 10 iu of Kigs- now 20. Never look or feel better. Springwater do your thing bro and post your good pics so the boys know what up!
i don't like to get involved in drama, pretty dumb and silly since it doesn't help anyone in the bodybuilding community. but, i think it's ridiculous when people are deriding gh15 for not using a "real life" name or face associated with his posts.
all the things he says are true, so what does it matter who he is in real life? if he's actually a pro or just an NPC competitor, it doesn't matter, he tells it how it is, and most importantly he doesn't try to sell some garbage snake oil or supplement claiming it will be what turns someone pro.
in fact, what's ironic about it is a lot of the people who use their real names, and associate their real life with their forum posting only do so because they have some kind of monetary gain from it. they are either selling some supplement or some garbage ass "new research drug" that is a huge scam.
i'm sorry, but after the experiences i've had on different boards and after i've read the posts by the people using their real names on boards, i'm going to trust the word of the anonymous guy on getbig 9 out of 10 times more than i will from someone selling a new product trying to cash in on their real life name.
*addendum this doesn't apply to everyone using their real names, as there are a lot of honest, and sincere guys out there who i have respect and admiration for but i'm sure people know exactly who i'm talking about when i refer to the "research chemicals"
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i don't like to get involved in drama, pretty dumb and silly since it doesn't help anyone in the bodybuilding community. but, i think it's ridiculous when people are deriding gh15 for not using a "real life" name or face associated with his posts.
all the things he says are true, so what does it matter who he is in real life? if he's actually a pro or just an NPC competitor, it doesn't matter, he tells it how it is, and most importantly he doesn't try to sell some garbage snake oil or supplement claiming it will be what turns someone pro.
in fact, what's ironic about it is a lot of the people who use their real names, and associate their real life with their forum posting only do so because they have some kind of monetary gain from it. they are either selling some supplement or some garbage ass "new research drug" that is a huge scam.
i'm sorry, but after the experiences i've had on different boards and after i've read the posts by the people using their real names on boards, i'm going to trust the word of the anonymous guy on getbig 9 out of 10 times more than i will from someone selling a new product trying to cash in on their real life name.
*addendum this doesn't apply to everyone using their real names, as there are a lot of honest, and sincere guys out there who i have respect and admiration for but i'm sure people know exactly who i'm talking about when i refer to the "research chemicals"
Fully agree good post. No drama I have always listened to GH15 when it comes to well- growth and had significant changed in my physique.
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I did 40iu a day for a week at the beginning of this year, I was handicapped by the fifth day and had pumps from even typing, my head felt like it would explode
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yeah, you are definitely running a significant dosage of anabolics because tren is a very, very potent androgen with high binding affinity and a strong binding ability. then you also have testosterone as well as 700mg of drol a week, both the drol and testo work on causing muscle cell hypertrophy via growth pathways other than by directly binding to the androgen receptor sites, so you have all your bases covered with gear and the GH. the only thing i would add to this would be insulin, but you know, personal preference and it's not necessary.
what i meant about keeping your t3 dosage consistent was keeping it at the same dosage daily, rather than using random daily dosage (which i wasn't sure if that's what you meant by "50-75mg t3 ed"), but it appears you weren't doing that and just experimenting with different weekly dosages. i didn't mean to imply anything bad would happen as a result, just that the t3 would work more optimally when you were dosing it consistently each day since t3 is absorbed and becomes active very quickly after ingestion, and has a half life of somewhere around 1-2 days so as a result you'd have fluctuating t3 levels when ideally you'd just want a nice consistent t3 level in the blood for the desired effects.
50-75mg of t3 is a good dosage to run for a long duration usage, if you go higher, you're going to start hitting dosages primarily for cutting. not that you can't gain mass on high t3 dosages, but it's like trying to skate uphill and you are working against yourself since t3 vastly increases protein turnover, which means protein synthesis and protein degradation, the latter is going to make it more difficult to add real muscle fiber.
Excellent post bro. You really are extremely knowledgeable.
I apologize for the clumsy way I worded my T3 dosages. How long would you recommend running T3? I have heard it really is something that needs to be cycles every few weeks, but who knows if that is accurate.
Great post about gh15 too. Very true about trusting someone who is anonymous rather than a named person who will post bullshit to protect himself.
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Excellent post bro. You really are extremely knowledgeable.
I apologize for the clumsy way I worded my T3 dosages. How long would you recommend running T3? I have heard it really is something that needs to be cycles every few weeks, but who knows if that is accurate.
Great post about gh15 too. Very true about trusting someone who is anonymous rather than a named person who will post bullshit to protect himself.
no need to cycle it. 50mcg a day for long durations is perfectly fine. there have been people who have been prescribed thyroid meds by doctors, incorrectly diagnosed with thyroid problems, and had been on high dosages of thyroid medicine for years and years before coming off and returning to full thyroid functionality. i don't know how your t3 is dosed, in the caps or tabs, but i would try to split the dosage up throughout the day, not a big issue but if you get jitters or feel like you're 'tweaking' a bit after dosing the t3 then it will help alleviate that. but at 50mcg it shouldn't make any difference, realistically.
little digression: i don't have much experience with t4 and i know some people use it instead of t3 for purposes of thyroid supplementation for long durations. what i've read about from people with hypothyroidism using t4 for medically prescribed reasons (non-bodybuilding), a lot of them have poor results and even with high dosages of t4 they have continued symptoms of hypothyroidism until they begin t3 supplementation, so to me i feel using t3 would be the superior choice. i've tried t4 only once, and very briefly at low dosages (125mcg) and i actually felt lethargic so i will now instead just use t3. to be fair, i didn't give it enough time nor use a high enough dosage to get an accurate representation of the drug, so i don't want to completely write it off since some people on bodybuilding boards claim it works well for them and i don't want to say they are wrong if it works for them!
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no need to cycle it. 50mcg a day for long durations is perfectly fine. there have been people who have been prescribed thyroid meds by doctors, incorrectly diagnosed with thyroid problems, and had been on high dosages of thyroid medicine for years and years before coming off and returning to full thyroid functionality. i don't know how your t3 is dosed, in the caps or tabs, but i would try to split the dosage up throughout the day, not a big issue but if you get jitters or feel like you're 'tweaking' a bit after dosing the t3 then it will help alleviate that. but at 50mcg it shouldn't make any difference, realistically.
little digression: i don't have much experience with t4 and i know some people use it instead of t3 for purposes of thyroid supplementation for long durations. what i've read about from people with hypothyroidism using t4 for medically prescribed reasons (non-bodybuilding), a lot of them have poor results and even with high dosages of t4 they have continued symptoms of hypothyroidism until they begin t3 supplementation, so to me i feel using t3 would be the superior choice. i've tried t4 only once, and very briefly at low dosages (125mcg) and i actually felt lethargic so i will now instead just use t3. to be fair, i didn't give it enough time nor use a high enough dosage to get an accurate representation of the drug, so i don't want to completely write it off since some people on bodybuilding boards claim it works well for them and i don't want to say they are wrong if it works for them!
Thanks bro.
After sleeping on my proposed cycle (I am already set with the gh), I am considering adding something in. Do you have any suggestions? Maybe I should leave it as is? I never really liked EQ much and it gave me noticeable anxiety. I didn't want to run masteron till the spring. I am considering doing a 20 day blast of 100mg anavar. I got good results from that last time. Any suggestions?
Are you also very knowledgeable about gh? How would you advise I run the 20iu? I'm thinking 8iu upon waking, then three 4iu shots throughout the day.
Thanks!
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i'm not one of those people who think it matters much what specific compounds people run, just the total overall weekly dosage when it comes to making gains, you know? more anabolics, more gh = mo' bigger. so to speak. if you want to have added secondary effects - like hardness/dryness or if you want to get your muscles bloofy as hell with that type of look like someone stuck an airhose into your biceps - then you use specific compounds like winny or anadrol but i don't think it matter otherwise.
with regard to your second question, i don't like to ever claim i'm knowledgeable, or that i know a lot. i mean, it's called an "opinion" for a reason, and that's because everyone always thinks they are right about everything, regardless. i'm not arrogant or conceited enough to think i'm never wrong.
with that said though and about the GH, i liked dosing it in smaller dosages, multiple times a day and every 3 hours. i was running about 2-3iu every 3 hours, roughly. it's hard to tell from just appearances if it makes a huge difference though, but i recently read a post by gh15 stating he suggests the same thing: smaller dosages pinned often instead of few large dosages - so there you go. there was also a medical study that was done specifically on this that i always reference, in which total gh dosages were equivalent, and the dosing protocol that mimicked a pulsatory manner (i.e peaking blood plasma levels of growth hormone and then allowing a trough before peaking gh levels again) produced better results than a steady even infusion of growth hormone throughout the day.
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i'm not one of those people who think it matters much what specific compounds people run, just the total overall weekly dosage when it comes to making gains, you know? more anabolics, more gh = mo' bigger. so to speak. if you want to have added secondary effects - like hardness/dryness or if you want to get your muscles bloofy as hell with that type of look like someone stuck an airhose into your biceps - then you use specific compounds like winny or anadrol but i don't think it matter otherwise.
with regard to your second question, i don't like to ever claim i'm knowledgeable, or that i know a lot. i mean, it's called an "opinion" for a reason, and that's because everyone always thinks they are right about everything, regardless. i'm not arrogant or conceited enough to think i'm never wrong.
with that said though and about the GH, i liked dosing it in smaller dosages, multiple times a day and every 3 hours. i was running about 2-3iu every 3 hours, roughly. it's hard to tell from just appearances if it makes a huge difference though, but i recently read a post by gh15 stating he suggests the same thing: smaller dosages pinned often instead of few large dosages - so there you go. there was also a medical study that was done specifically on this that i always reference, in which total gh dosages were equivalent, and the dosing protocol that mimicked a pulsatory manner (i.e peaking blood plasma levels of growth hormone and then allowing a trough before peaking gh levels again) produced better results than a steady even infusion of growth hormone throughout the day.
Thanks bro. I think we agree a lot. After years of doing this I found that all you really need are test and tren.
Great post on the gh. It won't be feasible to do the 3iu shots every 3 hours but I can get pretty close to it.
Thanks bro. I'll keep everyone updated on my progress.
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Generally speaking agreed. But i get along fine with a simple gram of long Esther test on higher HGH. And feel fukin great
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What do you guys think of my proposed cycle:
700mg sust per week
600mg tren-e per week
100mg anadrol every day (for 5 weeks or so)
20iu novotropin hgh every day
50mg proviron every day
500ius hcg per week
50-75mcg T3 every day for a few weeks
I am considering throwing in some arimidex. I have never used arimidex before but a few people have recommended running it. Can anyone share their thoughts on this and if it will be necessary?
Thanks!
you need more aas for so much gh
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you need more aas for so much gh
Such as?
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Such as?
just more total mgs. the compounds are ok. add 900-1000mg eq or maybe 500-750mg more test. on so much gh you wont look bloofy.
gh=tank
aas=gas
as the master of the class has mentioned in one of his posts
you will have a big tank, but you need to fill it with more gas
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just more total mgs. the compounds are ok. add 900-1000mg eq or maybe 500-750mg more test. on so much gh you wont look bloofy.
gh=tank
aas=gas
as the master of the class has mentioned in one of his posts
you will have a big tank, but you need to fill it with more gas
Yeah, he should up the Sustanon to 1000mg per week and add in EQ at around 900mg per week
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you need more aas for so much gh
definitely.......... pro level gh abuse, be a waste to run so little gear along side it, id run slin too
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Yeah, he should up the Sustanon to 1000mg per week and add in EQ at around 900mg per week
Im sure OP said he got pretty anxious on EQ in the past.
Well 700 test 600 tren and 700 anadrol a week = 2 grams a week. No too shaby. When you pull the anadrol you will most definitely have to replace with something else, maybe some NPP.. I do agree you could benefit with the high gh with a higher total mg dose of aas.. 20 iu's = potential freak status. Just need all the right pieces
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Im sure OP said he got pretty anxious on EQ in the past.
Well 700 test 600 tren and 700 anadrol a week = 2 grams a week. No too shaby. When you pull the anadrol you will most definitely have to replace with something else, maybe some NPP.. I do agree you could benefit with the high gh with a higher total mg dose of aas.. 20 iu's = potential freak status. Just need all the right pieces
If EQ is not good for him then i agree on replacing it with NPP
i think with 20IU of GH per you could at least use 3 grams or more per week