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Title: Enough with the military hero worship
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on December 29, 2011, 11:09:08 AM
I understand that soldiers do a hard job and that there are incredible acts of bravery and courage in war zones. But not everyone that put on a uniform is a fucking hero.

Stop with the continuous ass kissing please and thank you
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: Wiggs on December 29, 2011, 11:11:07 AM
I'm a vet and I actually agree with you.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: makaveli25 on December 29, 2011, 11:16:53 AM
I start to get annoyed a little bit to. We had some real douche bagge pricks from my highschool that joined. Most of them haven't even seen any action. They get paid to do it. They live for free. They only have to work for twenty years and they can retire. It's like any other career. I'm pretty conservative and pro military but it does get old.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: njanvi on December 29, 2011, 11:18:14 AM
We live in a hero culture. Everyone who's ever picked up an old lady's purse is a hero
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: Swlabr on December 29, 2011, 11:22:35 AM
agreed...most...of...the ...kids...I...know...who ...went...into...the...m ilitary...were...dumb... as...shit...and...acted. ..like...total...tools.. .

no...respect...
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: Borracho on December 29, 2011, 11:23:53 AM
But they nearly died for you bitches!
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: Tito24 on December 29, 2011, 11:44:54 AM
yes i always found that americans are so patriotic its sickening sometimes. hero doesnt mean shit anymore then.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: Parker on December 29, 2011, 11:50:59 AM
 lot of these guys come back, there will an escalation of domestic violence...
These guys heads are so warped that it ain't funny.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: makaveli25 on December 29, 2011, 11:52:08 AM
If I see a guy with a missing limb or a bad injury I have no problem thanking them for their service. That's a big sacarfice to make.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: Parker on December 29, 2011, 11:58:02 AM
If I see a guy with a missing limb or a bad injury I have no problem thanking them for their service. That's a big sacarfice to make.
And look where we are now---Iraq is fucked, Afghanistan is still cracked, Iran is threatening to cut off oil, we've lost crucial tech to them, China has us by the balls economically, our borders are not safe...we have a shitty economy by being baited into two wars, and greedy fucks on wall street.
So, was a limb worth it? Hell no, I'd be mad as hell...

Oh, but we got a US made boogeyman, and now we are looking for another nemesis---we should look in the mirror
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: Tito24 on December 29, 2011, 11:58:20 AM
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Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: Raymondo on December 29, 2011, 11:59:21 AM
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I liked that movie, very extreme.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: Wiggs on December 29, 2011, 12:00:38 PM
(http://www.moviepulp.be/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/harsh-times.jpg)

Very good movie.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: _bruce_ on December 29, 2011, 12:12:50 PM
 :D
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: Raymondo on December 29, 2011, 12:13:41 PM
:D

A shame nobody introduced him to the barbell row :)
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: mass243 on December 29, 2011, 12:16:15 PM

* Must... keep.... my...... mouth shut *   ;D
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: erics on December 29, 2011, 12:26:34 PM
Oh, but we got a US made boogeyman, and now we are looking for another nemesis---we should look in the mirror

Only children need to believe in heroes.

America is like the teenager who thinks he is more important than he really is.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: BayGBM on December 29, 2011, 12:33:33 PM
I understand that soldiers do a hard job and that there are incredible acts of bravery and courage in war zones. But not everyone that put on a uniform is a fucking hero.

Stop with the continuous ass kissing please and thank you

I never started so no need to stop.  I thank them for their service just as I do teachers, police, firefighters, etc.  Worship?  Not even close.  They have awards, medals, and honors for the incredible acts of bravery.  It should end there.  I don't even believe in VA hospitals.  Those injured in war should  get a kind of govt. health credit card that they use to pay medical bills at any hospital that normal people go to.  Veteran preference in hiring for govt jobs I can understand.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: wes on December 29, 2011, 12:35:38 PM
Soldiers are just the tools that get used and forgotten by governments.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: doozejooze on December 29, 2011, 02:57:42 PM
I always thank them for their service. Of course there are some "Joel the Shit Bag Rags" but for the most part they are all heroes. So I treat them all as such since the odds are in my favor to do so. VA hospitals are great in theory but not in practice. Sadly, these folks are relegated to secondary care. Verdict in .....heroes. Thanks for your service Wiggs
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: arce1988 on December 29, 2011, 02:58:54 PM
  Semper Fidelis
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: BayGBM on December 29, 2011, 07:11:38 PM
Soldiers are just the tools that get used and forgotten by governments.

x2.

I love that phrase "support the troops." Truth is no one cares... ::)
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: Nirvana on December 29, 2011, 07:16:03 PM
Yes I hear a lot of people brag about going into the marines, though truthfully, they have no other options in life. 

For sure the ones who get deployed deserve respect but the countless others who stay home and use the military as a form of welfare aren't heroes at all.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: che on December 29, 2011, 07:16:32 PM
Soldiers ,firefighters ,cops and the pilot that landed the airplane in the Hudson river are not heroes , they are just doing their fucking job , that's why they get paid for.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: reppingfor20 on December 29, 2011, 07:18:19 PM
I understand that soldiers do a hard job and that there are incredible acts of bravery and courage in war zones. But not everyone that put on a uniform is a fucking hero.

Stop with the continuous ass kissing please and thank you

x2, most of them are not "hero's", it's a job at the end of the day. 
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: haider on December 29, 2011, 07:21:01 PM
Soldiers ,firefighters ,cops and the pilot that landed the airplane in the Hudson river are not heroes , they are just doing their fucking job , that's why they get paid for.
x2

just as important as any other person doing their job that benefits society. Everyone contributes to society in their own way, why a doctor or technician is any less of a hero than a military person in their everyday job is beyond me.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: reppingfor20 on December 29, 2011, 07:23:15 PM
x2

just as important as any other person doing their job that benefits society. Everyone contributes to society in their own way, why a doctor or technician is any less of a hero than a military person in their everyday job is beyond me.

to be honest, a doctor/surgeon would be much more of a hero than a soldier, because you can be a soldier and never do jack shit(hero wise).  You know a surgeon is operating on people a few days a week actually doing something to help people.



Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: apply85 on December 29, 2011, 07:28:00 PM
hey tito, what movie is that from?
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: che on December 29, 2011, 07:28:10 PM
x2

just as important as any other person doing their job that benefits society. Everyone contributes to society in their own way, why a doctor or technician is any less of a hero than a military person in their everyday job is beyond me.

If a house is burning down  and you go inside  and risk your life to save the life of a stranger ,you are a hero ,the firefighter is not .
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: DK II on December 29, 2011, 07:31:52 PM
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Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: viking1 on December 29, 2011, 07:36:08 PM
Soldiers ,firefighters ,cops and the pilot that landed the airplane in the Hudson river are not heroes , they are just doing their fucking job , that's why they get paid for.
this guy's my hero  ;)
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Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: haider on December 29, 2011, 07:37:09 PM
to be honest, a doctor/surgeon would be much more of a hero than a soldier, because you can be a soldier and never do jack shit(hero wise).  You know a surgeon is operating on people a few days a week actually doing something to help people.

Are you debussey?

If a house is burning down  and you go inside  and risk your life to save the life of a stranger ,you are a hero ,the firefighter is not .

Firefighter is faced with dangerous situations more often than in other jobs though, so they have more of a chance to do something that could cause them severe harm, or what people call heroic (look at 9/11 for example). But what's less easy to see is how you save peoples life or contribute to their well being in non-emergency situations (like doctors, artists, etc.).
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: johnnynoname on December 29, 2011, 07:39:04 PM
say what you will but THESE GUYS GET LAID LIKE A guy WHEN THEY GET BACK..THEM AND FIREFIGTHERS
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: che on December 29, 2011, 07:43:15 PM
Are you debussey?
Firefighter is faced with dangerous situations more often than in other jobs though, so they have more of a chance to do something that could cause them severe harm, or what people call heroic (look at 9/11 for example). But what's less easy to see is how you save peoples life or contribute to their well being in non-emergency situations (like doctors, artists, etc.).


I risk my life everyday (more than a firefighter) ,am I a hero  ???
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: DK II on December 29, 2011, 07:44:23 PM
say what you will but THESE GUYS GET LAID LIKE A #### WHEN THEY GET BACK..THEM AND FIREFIGTHERS


Have you done a few?

You can say it now, the policies have changed.

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Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: johnnynoname on December 29, 2011, 07:45:32 PM

Have you done a few?

You can say it now, the policies have changed.

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Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
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Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: tu_holmes on December 29, 2011, 07:49:05 PM
If a house is burning down  and you go inside  and risk your life to save the life of a stranger ,you are a hero ,the firefighter is not .


Maybe, but firefighters are doing it really to help people... No one gets into firefighting to take away freedoms, kill people, or be a "bad ass".

They generally are helpful... same as EMTs.

Fuck the Police of course.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: haider on December 29, 2011, 07:50:04 PM
I risk my life everyday (more than a firefighter) ,am I a hero  ???
Hard to know.

-Are you doing it for yourself or for the benefit of others?
-Are you sacrificing the possibility of other jobs because you think you can serve society in this way the best?
-Are the risks you take foolhardy or because of a sense of duty?


There's no way to possibly know why someone does something, so its very difficult for someone else to say how heroic an action is.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: che on December 29, 2011, 07:53:29 PM
Hard to know.

-Are you doing it for yourself or for the benefit of others?
-Are you sacrificing the possibility of other jobs because you think you can serve society in this way the best?
-Are the risks you take foolhardy or because of a sense of duty?


There's no way to possibly know why someone does something, so its very difficult for someone else to say how heroic an action is.

I'm doing it for the benefit of other ,I'm building America

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Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: haider on December 29, 2011, 07:54:13 PM
Thanks for your service  ;)
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: BILL ANVIL on December 29, 2011, 07:58:24 PM
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: BILL ANVIL on December 29, 2011, 08:00:42 PM
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: freespirit on December 29, 2011, 10:02:59 PM


Army retards.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: aesthetics on December 29, 2011, 10:15:04 PM
crab fishing is more dangerous than being a marine. especially a PMC, they make 300k a year, starting salary, to walk dogs, literally.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: Nomad on December 29, 2011, 10:52:12 PM
I only kiss ass of the guys who are in the special and elite units. One, the absolute majority of them dont like to brag about their crazy exploits and missions to the public even after retiring.

Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: Parker on December 29, 2011, 11:06:58 PM
say what you will but THESE GUYS GET LAID LIKE A #### WHEN THEY GET BACK..THEM AND FIREFIGTHERS
Not as much as you think---they spend most of their time having mental breakdowns...

And of course there is the "You can trust a marine with your life, but not your wife".
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: calfzilla on December 30, 2011, 12:36:10 AM
I understand that soldiers do a hard job and that there are incredible acts of bravery and courage in war zones. But not everyone that put on a uniform is a fucking hero.

Stop with the continuous ass kissing please and thank you

Hate to say it but I agree. Not all soldiers are heros. Also the military mostly fights wars and die for corporate america, no longer freedom. I always have to bite my tongue when some friends on fb go on and on about how the military are heros and shit. They get paid to do a job and do it.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: freespirit on December 30, 2011, 12:58:53 AM
Hate to say it but I agree. Not all soldiers are heros. Also the military mostly fights wars and die for corporate america, no longer freedom. I always have to bite my tongue when some friends on fb go on and on about how the military are heros and shit. They get paid to do a job and do it.

 >:(

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Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: calfzilla on December 30, 2011, 01:40:31 AM
^ saw the title and got out of there. Like gh15 i care deeply about animals and cant tolerate any harm.
Title: Thank your Heroes in uniform today in this threat
Post by: Stark on December 30, 2011, 01:49:40 AM
I want to thank all my brothers and sisters in arms today - wherever you are right now be save and thank you for your service.

We here at getbig with you all the very best for the new year!!!

You are all heroes!!

Stay frosty
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: Tapeworm on December 30, 2011, 02:34:57 AM
We're a war society.  I've heard we spend as much on our military as the rest of the world combined (and probably far more since ME operations began 10 years ago).  I'm 39 and am hard pressed to remember a time when the US wasn't at war/ policing/ peacekeeping/ under threat.  We're in a perpetual state of war.   Of course there's continual propaganda.

That being said, I support our troops.  That's why I don't want them to die halfway around the world for some rich man's agenda.  As hard as the propagandists try to sell it to us, there's no noble cause being fought for.  You can support the troops or you can support the agenda, but not both.
Title: Re: Thank your Heroes in uniform today in this threat
Post by: Tapeworm on December 30, 2011, 02:40:08 AM

Stay frosty

Wtf that's my line.

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Title: Re: Thank your Heroes in uniform today in this threat
Post by: Stark on December 30, 2011, 02:50:16 AM
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Title: Re: Thank your Heroes in uniform today in this threat
Post by: Cleanest Natural on December 30, 2011, 02:59:33 AM
"threat" ?? what a moron

go fuck off with your obsession for violence
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: phreak on December 30, 2011, 05:52:10 AM
"The best of the best!"

That's why they have to be recruited, using threats and bribes, from the dregs of society. All the stupid kids become engineers, lawyers or doctors.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: The_Punisher on December 30, 2011, 06:03:36 AM
And look where we are now---Iraq is fucked, Afghanistan is still cracked, Iran is threatening to cut off oil, we've lost crucial tech to them, China has us by the balls economically, our borders are not safe...we have a shitty economy by being baited into two wars, and greedy fucks on wall street.
So, was a limb worth it? Hell no, I'd be mad as hell...

Oh, but we got a US made boogeyman, and now we are looking for another nemesis---we should look in the mirror

recently, I walked into a bar in Maryland and what I saw really touched me. there were half a dozens young kids, average age around 22, with missing limbs, one in particular lost both legs and one arm.......I said to myself, these are casualties of war and these young Vets will live like this for the rest of their lives........was this sacrifice worth it?.....was this Iraq war that sent them there in the first place worth it?........time will tell
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: Tapeworm on December 30, 2011, 06:16:34 AM
recently, I walked into a bar in Maryland and what I saw really touched me. there were half a dozens young kids, average age around 22, with missing limbs, one in particular lost both legs and one arm.......I said to myself, these are casualties of war and these young Vets will live like this for the rest of their lives........was this sacrifice worth it?.....was this Iraq war that sent them there in the first place worth it?........time will tell

Not since WW2.  Poor fuckers.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: BILL ANVIL on December 30, 2011, 12:25:04 PM
Hate to say it but I agree. Not all soldiers are heros. Also the military mostly fights wars and die for corporate america, no longer freedom. I always have to bite my tongue when some friends on fb go on and on about how the military are heros and shit. They get paid to do a job and do it.

lol yeah they think they are fighting for the nation, when they're really fighting for massive corporations and dying in the name of Wallmart, Mcdonalds ect.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: supernick on December 30, 2011, 01:19:00 PM
I'm a vet and I actually agree with you.
me too
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on December 30, 2011, 01:40:39 PM
I can't understand their bitching if they get a leg blown off, they'd happily do the same to innocent Iraqi or afghan citizens. Fuck them, part of the job
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: sean on December 30, 2011, 01:51:01 PM


listen to this fucking crybaby wigga!  and how about the under achiever wearing the shirt. HERO!

Also, isnt it awkward when someone emphatically 'thanks' a 'serviceman' in your presence. Its like everyone is thinking the same thing but the thankful civilian just blabbers on about how "thankful' they are..
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on December 30, 2011, 07:20:13 PM
Respect to the real heroes for sure, but yeah...

MANY go into the military 'cos they couldn't get a regular job or because they want a free education. 

The ones wanting a free education leave as soon as they have their degree.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: Archer77 on December 30, 2011, 07:28:34 PM
I'm a vet and I actually agree with you.


Same here.  I've know military personnel who spent their entire careers working in an office sorting requisition orders or being janitors. 
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: el numero uno on December 30, 2011, 07:39:19 PM
Respect to the real heroes for sure, but yeah...

MANY go into the military 'cos they couldn't get a regular job or because they want a free education. 

The ones wanting a free education leave as soon as they have their degree.

X2

I don't live in America, but it's the same thing over here with our police. Nowadays if you want to be a cop, it's free and if you fail the tests you can repeat as many times as you can. I know a bunch a drugaddicts/alcoholics guys who failed the tests like 5 times, then they approved and now they're in their way to be cops.

Why they wanted to be cops? Because they were too lazy or dumb to follow a real career. And their laziness took away good jobs from them. The problem is that they do it because it's easy money, they won't do shit, if there's a problem they DON'T show up when you call them, that's fucked up. They get paid for doing NOTHING!

At least before it was free to take the tests, guys would put a lot of effort since it wasn't cheap and they really wanted to be cops.

Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: BayGBM on October 11, 2014, 11:45:41 AM
Army vet not allowed to hang jacket on U.S. Airways flight
By Amy Graff

Thousands of people took to Twitter to express their outrage over a U.S. Airways flight attendant who refused to allow an Army veteran to hang his decorated jacket on a recent flight.

On Flight 1930 between Portland, Ore., and Charlotte, N.C., First Sgt. Albert Marle asked a flight attendant to hang his navy-blue Army Ranger and combat veteran’s jacket to stop it from wrinkling, according to WSOC-TV. The unnamed attendant refused saying the closet is reserved for first-class passengers.

Marle didn’t question her response and without making any fuss he politely returned to his seat.

Passengers who witnessed the incident did make a fuss, however, offering Marle their seats in first-class so he could hang his jacket.

Passengers also took to Twitter blasting the airline for disrespecting a member of the military.

First-class passenger Brian Kirby tweeted: “Do not fly US Air, I have just witnessed a US solider heavily decorated disgraced. Will be sharing with other media outlets ASAP.”

Brian’s wife, Laura Kirby, chimed in: “@USAirways is it really in your policy to disrespect brave men such as Sergeant Marle? Flight attendant Ava of US 1930 from PDX to CLT.”

Quickly the tweets went viral and thousands of Twitter users, many with handles suggesting they’re vets, responded in disgust and said they’d never fly U.S. Airways again.

Lauderdale Vet wrote: “@Bkirby72 @USAirways I’ll definitely remember this the next time I have to choose an airline.”

Mathew S Harrison tweeted: “@USAirways @Bkirby72 This veteran will never fly USAir ever again.  They are on my official boycott list FOREVER! #BOYCOTTUSAirways”

The Kirbys contacted WSOC-TV with the story. “It may not have seemed like a big deal and he certainly wouldn’t have made a big deal about it but it’s important someone stands up and says this is not correct it needs to be fixed,” Brian told the news station.

WSOC-TV reached out to Marle and his family and his parents said their son doesn’t want to attract attention to himself.

U.S. Airways released an apology:  "We apologize for the situation and are reviewing the incident internally. We have a long and proud history of serving our military members and hold the men and women who serve our country in the highest regard."

The airline claims the flight attendant received four requests to hang jackets on the flight and the closet was full, but passengers are saying the attendant didn’t explain this on the actual flight.

“Her response wasn’t that there’s not space in the coat closet or ‘I’ve hung too many jackets up.’ It was just simply, ‘Our airline policy says I’m not going to do it, so I’m not going to do it,’” Brian Kirby told WSOC-TV. “I was really appalled at not only the way she looked at him but the way she spoke to him in an angry type of attitude.”
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 11, 2014, 11:48:28 AM
Elites give them the title of HERO to troll them(us) actually. They don't really believe it. Elites actually believe that these people's lives are worthless...
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: tu_holmes on October 11, 2014, 11:49:55 AM
Elites give them the title of HERO to troll them(us) actually. They don't really believe it. Elites actually believe that these people's lives are worthless...

I will say, that if the "Elites", as you put it, cared about them, they would be much more selective about sending them off to die in foreign lands.

Too many politicians are too quick to send people off to war.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: BayGBM on October 11, 2014, 11:55:50 AM
I will say, that if the "Elites", as you put it, cared about them, they would be much more selective about sending them off to die in foreign lands.

Too many politicians are too quick to send people off to war.

So true.  But if it's not your son or daughter what do you care? 
Answer: you don't.
 ::)
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: tu_holmes on October 11, 2014, 11:57:12 AM
So true.  But if it's not your son or daughter what do you care? 
Answer: you don't.
 ::)

I do care.

I don't see how normal people could not. Everyone is someone's son or daughter... Just like I wouldn't want my children to go off to war if it's not needed, I wouldn't want yours, or anyone else's.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: muscleman-2013 on October 11, 2014, 11:59:32 AM
I respect men who fight to defend their country.  Current US military does no such thing.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: Hulkotron on October 11, 2014, 12:12:32 PM
I fly on US Air and will continue to do so.

The guy did not pay for first-class service so why should he receive it?
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: The True Adonis on October 11, 2014, 12:13:19 PM
I fly on US Air and will continue to do so.

The guy did not pay for first-class service so why should he receive it?
They could have at least let him hang his jacket up there. 
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: tu_holmes on October 11, 2014, 12:15:35 PM
They could have at least let him hang his jacket up there. 

They have let me stow my guitar in there before.

More than likely, there was no room or hangers, yet the flight attendant instead of saying, "let me see what I can do." or "We don't have anymore room in the closet... I'm so sorry", just spouted out the "line" that they are told to say.

"First Class only"

This is what happens when people do not think for themselves.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: anabolichalo on October 11, 2014, 12:17:21 PM
any fool can be a punk with a gun

but

a real hero looks like this
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: Shockwave on October 11, 2014, 05:29:49 PM
Elites give them the title of HERO to troll them(us) actually. They don't really believe it. Elites actually believe that these people's lives are worthless...
Hell, we dont believe were heros. Ask military vets, especially those who were in combat roles/have seen combat, and i guarantee you 99% will tell you that youre crazy if you think theyre heros.

I get uncomfortable anytime someone makes a big deal about my service or pulls the 'thank you so much for defending us' line. I didnt do shit, i was trained to fight, and i didnt even deploy. I just did a job.

Were just dudes doing a job. A particularly dangerous, mentally and physically demanding job (with shit pay and killer benefits), but just another job nontheless.

Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: The True Adonis on October 11, 2014, 06:20:40 PM
Hell, we dont believe were heros. Ask military vets, especially those who were in combat roles/have seen combat, and i guarantee you 99% will tell you that youre crazy if you think theyre heros.

I get uncomfortable anytime someone makes a big deal about my service or pulls the 'thank you so much for defending us' line. I didnt do shit, i was trained to fight, and i didnt even deploy. I just did a job.

Were just dudes doing a job.
A particularly dangerous, mentally and physically demanding job (with shit pay and killer benefits), but just another job nontheless.


I always say that on here and sometimes the "veterans" get angry about it for some reason.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 11, 2014, 08:32:19 PM
I have a lot of military people in my circle of family and friends. Some of them are legitimate heroes.

Not every Soldier or Marine is Audie Murphy but I think our military earns every bit of respect that they get.  They volunteer to drag ass halfway across the world to some third world toilet, kill people, and try not to get their asses shot off.  They are the only thing keeping the USA from getting rolled on by asshole dictators that hate us and want us out of their way. 

Do people get a little carried away at times?  Yes, but I'd rather members of the armed forces get too much credit than not enough.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: Voice of Doom on October 11, 2014, 08:57:23 PM
joining the military isn't about killing Nazis or freeing the slaves anymore...its about doing the bidding of the corporate state.  there's no honor in that.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: DanielPaul on October 11, 2014, 09:05:30 PM
This whole thread is fucked, you show a hand full of douche bags out of an armed force of over a million.  Those of you shit talkers who aren't American and are bumping your gums the odds are that American sacrifice in one way or another directly or indirectly allows you your freedom too.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: Zillotch on October 11, 2014, 09:28:25 PM
Many who enlist are no more than dimwits with a lack of options. Props to 03 marines, though. Those guys are 'good eggs'. 
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: Primemuscle on October 11, 2014, 09:31:56 PM
X2

I don't live in America, but it's the same thing over here with our police. Nowadays if you want to be a cop, it's free and if you fail the tests you can repeat as many times as you can. I know a bunch a drugaddicts/alcoholics guys who failed the tests like 5 times, then they approved and now they're in their way to be cops.

Why they wanted to be cops? Because they were too lazy or dumb to follow a real career. And their laziness took away good jobs from them. The problem is that they do it because it's easy money, they won't do shit, if there's a problem they DON'T show up when you call them, that's fucked up. They get paid for doing NOTHING!

At least before it was free to take the tests, guys would put a lot of effort since it wasn't cheap and they really wanted to be cops.



It the law of supply and demand. Anyone would be a fool to want to be a policeman today. It's become a thankless job. It is no wonder, HR will bend over backwards to get someone, anyone to take the job.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: catracho on October 11, 2014, 09:36:33 PM
Many who enlist are no more than dimwits with a lack of options. Props to 03 marines, though. Those guys are 'good eggs'. 

yes many are dimwits.  But many are extremely intelligent and feel a need to serve.  You think those graduating from the military acadamies are all idiots?  Really? You think the pilots flying the $20 mil fighters are dummies?  Too much Generalization here.  There are douchebags in all walks of life, from the walmart worker to the wall street invester.  
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: Primemuscle on October 11, 2014, 09:44:38 PM
I start to get annoyed a little bit to. We had some real douche bagge pricks from my highschool that joined. Most of them haven't even seen any action. They get paid to do it. They live for free. They only have to work for twenty years and they can retire. It's like any other career. I'm pretty conservative and pro military but it does get old.

In the U.S. the military service retirement calculations changed in 1986. After 20 years of service, your retirement is 40% of your base pay. It is not until you reach 40 years service that your retirement is 100% of base pay. Very few service personal remain in the military for even 20 years much less 40.

If at any point you cannot do you job, you are out. All military personal must be combat ready to remain in the military. Someone joining at 20 years of age is likely not going to be combat ready when they are 60 years of age.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: rooseveltdunn on October 11, 2014, 09:46:53 PM
yes many are dimwits.  But many are extremely intelligent and feel a need to serve.  You think those graduating from the military acadamies are all idiots?  Really? You think the pilots flying the $20 mil fighters are dummies?  Too much Generalization here.  There are douchebags in all walks of life, from the walmart worker to the wall street invester.  

Only the elite become fighter jet  pilots and graduate from the top military academies (the requirements just to get in are pretty strict) but truth be told a large majority of military folks joined for either of two reasons 1) Free college education and a potential pension or 2) they didn't know what else to do with their lives the army was better than ending up in jail or wal mart. I am not trying to be spiteful, it's just something I have noticed; at my job I deal with vets and VA Healthcare professionals daily and this is pretty much the case across the board. I wouldn't say they are douches though.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: Zillotch on October 11, 2014, 09:52:25 PM
extremely intelligent  

Too bad you don't fall into that category; this interaction wouldn't be nearly as painful.  
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: catracho on October 11, 2014, 09:57:52 PM
Only the elite become fighter jet  pilots and graduate from the top military academies (the requirements just to get in are pretty strict) but truth be told a large majority of military folks joined for either of two reasons 1) Free college education and a potential pension or 2) they didn't know what else to do with their lives the army was better than ending up in jail or wal mart. I am not trying to be spiteful, it's just something I have noticed; at my job I deal with vets and VA Healthcare professionals daily and this is pretty much the case across the board. I wouldn't say they are douches though.
I would agree.  But not everyone has the same opportunities in life.  What is wrong with joining the  military for the college money?  At least they want to go to college!  Who do you think is more motivated, the person that decides to join the  military for 4 years to pay for college or the rich kid driving the BMW who's education is paid for?  Not everyone has the same opportunities in life.  You think some black or hispanic kid that has a dad in jail and a mom on food stamps with 6 bro. and sis. can just go to college?  Is that the kids fault?  
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: catracho on October 11, 2014, 09:59:30 PM
Too bad you don't fall into that category; this interaction wouldn't be nearly as painful.  

Yep, you got me, I don't measure up to the likes of you.  You're the smartest guy here.  Good for you.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: Pumpzilla on October 11, 2014, 10:03:45 PM
>:(

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f31_1325120226


Whew! Shit, dude. You gotta put up some kind of warning for things like that. The second I saw it was a video about an animal getting hurt I hauled my ass right off there. I can't stand seeing any animal getting hurt.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: Shockwave on October 11, 2014, 10:05:27 PM
Props to 03 marines, though.Those guys are 'good eggs'.
Why thank you.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: DroppingPlates on October 11, 2014, 10:10:30 PM
any fool can be a punk with a gun

but

a real hero looks like this

Looks fucking awesome, but a 'hero' should also be able to sprint without running out of oxygen.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: catracho on October 11, 2014, 10:15:51 PM
Looks fucking awesome, but a 'hero' should also be able to sprint without running out of oxygen.

I guess the sprinting part rules this guy out? ;D
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: DroppingPlates on October 11, 2014, 10:22:26 PM
I guess the sprinting part rules this guy out? ;D

Keep Funk51 out of this, he's a good hombre ;D
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 11, 2014, 10:27:07 PM
This thread is an example of generation nothing at it's finest. Putting down those who serve in the military is low. What do many of you do except live in a room in your mother's house smoking dope and shooting steroids to give the appearance of a man?

This new age of liberalism is a disease. 
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: rooseveltdunn on October 11, 2014, 10:30:37 PM
This thread is an example of generation nothing at it's finest. Putting down those who serve in the military is low. What do many of you do except live in a room in your mother's house smoking dope and shooting steroids to give the appearance of a man?

This new age of liberalism is a disease.  

This coming from a baby boomer?

(http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Mike-Tyson-clapping-and-laughing.gif)

Plus you really think military folks do not smoke or do stupid shit?
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: DroppingPlates on October 11, 2014, 10:37:26 PM
This thread is an example of generation nothing at it's finest. Putting down those who serve in the military is low. What do many of you do except live in a room in your mother's house smoking dope and shooting steroids to give the appearance of a man?

This new age of liberalism is a disease. 

You're exaggerating, it's not a matter of putting them down. Respect to all of them who serve, or served, but stop kissing their asses all the time.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: Ken Fresno on October 11, 2014, 11:55:22 PM
I ran a half marathon last sunday in full kit carrying a bergan (rucksack) for charity and the amount of goodwill we got off the public was amazing. Little kids were high fiving us and I've never spoke to so many hot chicks in lycra in my life... I never knew I was such an attention whore.

I think with Afghan drawing to a close the positive spin from the media will end (in the UK at least) and we'll be back to stories about drunken soldiers fighting and smashing up foriegn holiday resorts.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: catracho on October 12, 2014, 12:00:39 AM
I ran a half marathon last sunday in full kit carrying a bergan (rucksack) for charity and the amount of goodwill we got off the public was amazing. Little kids were high fiving us and I've never spoke to so many hot chicks in lycra in my life... I never knew I was such an attention whore.

I think with Afghan drawing to a close the positive spin from the media will end (in the UK at least) and we'll be back to stories about drunken soldiers fighting and smashing up foriegn holiday resorts.

Ah, the good ole' days! ;D
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: anabolichalo on October 12, 2014, 02:10:41 AM
Looks fucking awesome, but a 'hero' should also be able to sprint without running out of oxygen.

oh really?


why is that?

ronnie would just run you over with his oversized yellow hummer if you would challenge him to a "sprint off"

try to fight him with "mma" ?

he gun you down with his service pistol


face it, only thing that matters is hitting sick poses in thongs
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: DroppingPlates on October 12, 2014, 04:43:06 AM
oh really?


why is that?

ronnie would just run you over with his oversized yellow hummer if you would challenge him to a "sprint off"

try to fight him with "mma" ?

he gun you down with his service pistol


face it, only thing that matters is hitting sick poses in thongs

Thanks for the good laugh :D
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: anabolichalo on October 12, 2014, 05:06:19 AM
Thanks for the good laugh :D
as long as you realize it may be funny but it's not a joke ;)
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: DroppingPlates on October 12, 2014, 05:09:38 AM
as long as you realize it may be funny but it's not a joke ;)

Try to think away that gun and douche mobile.
A true hero fights with bare hands...
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: anabolichalo on October 12, 2014, 05:13:17 AM
Try to think away that gun and douche mobile.
A true hero fights with bare hands...
oh really?

like mister ali stairs and buakaw  ???

they wouldnt last a minute trying to fight a lion with their bare hands

real heroes  ::)


meanwhile mister ronald dean coleman destroys even the mighty silver back in a pose down

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=547119.0;attach=576183;image)
Title: Re: Thank your Heroes in uniform today in this threat
Post by: D.O.A. on October 12, 2014, 05:21:29 AM
I want to thank all my brothers and sisters in arms today - wherever you are right now be save and thank you for your service.

We here at getbig with you all the very best for the new year!!!

You are all heroes!!

Stay frosty
if you want to be chinese you got to eat a lot of rice
Stay frosty
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: anabolichalo on October 12, 2014, 05:25:21 AM
Soliders are not heroes. They are a lower level of consciousness pieces of shits that are used by Satanist to do the dirty work.

SOLDIER = SOUL DIER - the soul of those individual is dead.
:D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D


you got somepoints there


however people are gonna be mad and go crazy
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: Donny on October 12, 2014, 05:28:07 AM
Soliders are not heroes. They are a lower level of consciousness pieces of shits that are used by Satanist to do the dirty work.

SOLDIER = SOUL DIER - the soul of those individual is dead.
you stupid little Kunt.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: Eric2 on October 12, 2014, 07:37:18 AM
And look where we are now---Iraq is fucked, Afghanistan is still cracked, Iran is threatening to cut off oil, we've lost crucial tech to them, China has us by the balls economically, our borders are not safe...we have a shitty economy by being baited into two wars, and greedy fucks on wall street.
So, was a limb worth it? Hell no, I'd be mad as hell...

Oh, but we got a US made boogeyman, and now we are looking for another nemesis---we should look in the mirror


While it's true that the politician can screw up a good war and waste young men's lives. The young men wearing the uniform serving in real harms way are no less than heroes. Without willing men to do so bad war or not. We have no chance at freedom from real tyranny when it comes. To bad lately it's mostly tyranny from our own government that worries me.
Title: Re: Enough with the military hero worship
Post by: Ron on October 12, 2014, 09:36:47 PM

No, soldiers deserve respect.  Some go above and beyond the call of duty, and perform heroically.  Some do not.   For every solder on the battlefield, there are a lot behind him.  So yes, respect they all deserve.  It is not easy nor many of us are capable of just leaving whatever you do, whether it is a family, job or familiar in life to go on duty for six months or a year or more.

Respect.  Different than heroes.  But some soldiers... they deserve being called a hero.
Title: Re: enough with the military hero worship
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 13, 2014, 09:37:40 AM
Soldiers are just the tools that get used and forgotten by governments.

Kind of a pathetic outlook in my opinion. Not that I disagree with the used and forgotten part, but "just tools" really minimizes and discounts what soldiers have done for this country through out our history. Having served for 10 yrs I don't consider what I did to be worthy of any real outpouring of gratefulness, but there are others who sacrificed a hell of a lot, and to refer to them as "just tools that get used and forgotten by governments" just kind of pisses me off  ;) 
Title: Re: Enough with the military hero worship
Post by: Donny on October 13, 2014, 10:56:37 AM
No, soldiers deserve respect.  Some go above and beyond the call of duty, and perform heroically.  Some do not.   For every solder on the battlefield, there are a lot behind him.  So yes, respect they all deserve.  It is not easy nor many of us are capable of just leaving whatever you do, whether it is a family, job or familiar in life to go on duty for six months or a year or more.

Respect.  Different than heroes.  But some soldiers... they deserve being called a hero.

Good Answer Ronald.