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whats the name of the exercise cena is doing at 0:45 ?
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reverse hyperextension
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yeah Hyper-extension
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reverse hyperextension
dont think thats it , reverse hypers are when you lock your torso in place and lift your legs up
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whats the name of the exercise cena is doing at 0:45 ?
Looks like a glute-ham raise.
It's a hard and very effective hamstring builder.
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Looks like a glute-ham raise.
It's a hard and very effective hamstring builder.
i cant do a single rep
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glute ham raises.
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dont think thats it , reverse hypers are when you lock your torso in place and lift your legs up
oh yeah, my bad. other guy is right it's glute-ham raise.
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i cant do a single rep
Most people can't when they first start.
You can have a training partner give you an assist by helping push you up a bit through the sticking point.
Or, you can spot yourself using a broom handle or body bar: place a 10 lb plate on the ground, insert one end of the stick into the plate's hole while holding the stick vertically, and use your hands to walk yourself up. The plate helps keep the stick from kicking out.
This method is more effective if you use your hands only as much as is needed, keeping the bulk of the stress on the hams.
And, if your gym doesn't have that style of hyper-extension bench, you can do the same thing on a seated pull-down machine; kneeling on the seat with the thigh pads resting on top of your ankles.
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glute ham raises.
This....if you walk into a gym and they don't have one....walk out.
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This....if you walk into a gym and they don't have one....walk out.
90 % of gyms dont
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you can do it on a lot of late machines or a varation of it put your hills under the pad that holds your knees down and lower and raise yourself you may need to get one of them ab balls to push of of with your hands.
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This....if you walk into a gym and they don't have one....walk out.
haha, i'm not going to pay nearly $80 a month for the only gym around here that has that kind of equipment (then they also have these ridiculous hidden fees).
i'll just go to the powerhouse gym, that only has free weights and a few basic machines, because it's $30 a month and i don't have to wait 20 minutes for some 120 pound guy to finish his set of presses with 6 minutes rest in between each one.
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you can do it on a lot of late machines or a varation of it put your hills under the pad that holds your knees down and lower and raise yourself you may need to get one of them ab balls to push of of with your hands.
you can also do it by having someone just push down with their weight on the back of your heels while you kneel down on a mat. most gyms have a "trainer" that will do that kind of stuff if you ask.
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a little more crotch shot than I'd like to see in HD.
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i cant do a single rep
If your posterior chain is that weak you need to start training it other wise you run the risk of hamstring pulls, knee injuries, etc. Ham flute raise is superior to machine leg curls.....multi joint vs single joint trumps single joint everytime.
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If your posterior chain is that weak you need to start training it other wise you run the risk of hamstring pulls, knee injuries, etc. Ham flute raise is superior to machine leg curls.....multi joint vs single joint trumps single joint everytime.
what are other ways to billed up my "posterior chain " ?
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you can also do it by having someone just push down with their weight on the back of your heels while you kneel down on a mat. most gyms have a "trainer" that will do that kind of stuff if you ask.
Ill take my chance with the lat machine unless a nice lady is willing to. The lat machine or method aesthetics mentioned is prolbaly the best hamstring movement for bodybuilding a person can do.
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what are other ways to billed up my "posterior chain " ?
good mornings,stiff leg dead lifts, cable pull throughs, dimel deadlifts, hip thrusts which looks very gay,sled pulling is proably under rated also
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i cant do a single rep
so you are a weak twink .. maybe that bunk test will strengthen your buttox
Can the mods change the title of the thread to Butt Exercise?
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what are other ways to billed up my "posterior chain " ?
Single leg rdl's , regular rdl's , deadlifts w/
Straight or trap bar, hamstring drops, pull throughs and more.
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so you are a weak twink .. maybe that bunk test will strengthen your buttox
Can the mods change the title of the thread to Butt Exercise?
is your dong still broken ?
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cialis should work fine,,so id follow what grant suggested.
about the test thing,,yes you can change,,i always prefer one ester over combo of esters,,simply because blood levels will be easier to keep stable.
when ever i do sust or omna i inject an amp/day,,,,when ever i inject one long ester test i inject it twice a week which make it a lot easier and a lot more time effective.
romania is known for fakes when it comes to amps so make sure you got the real deal,,,if you inject 750 mg of test and still cant get it on to f**k a hot (or ugly Wink) chic,,,,then try to use less anti estrogens,,people count too much on anti estrogens and it fucks up their sex life because estrogen is important too,,
also if this dont work get in some proviron,,,proviron will make the softest noodle hard and functionable,,,infact proviron is better than viagra and cialis in my opinion,,but this is my opinion.
if none of the above help,,,then the problem is in the head or is more serious and needed medical attention from a doc.
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Single leg rdl's , regular rdl's , deadlifts w/
Straight or trap bar, hamstring drops, pull throughs and more.
i can pull 500 for a single but i still cant do a single rep of the glute ham raises
are rdls the same as sldl ?
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i can pull 500 for a single but i still cant do a single rep of the glute ham raises
are rdls the same as sldl ?
your prolly just dont have the motor skills to do it. Kinda like if you never benched before but was asked to bench 315 at the size you are you wouldnt be able to.
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Does you boyfriend pumps you hard from the ass, maybe he wants it tight? huh :D
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Squatting 506lbs for reps easily there. 2x25kg, 2x20kg, 1x15kg per side.
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i can pull 500 for a single but i still cant do a single rep of the glute ham raises
are rdls the same as sldl ?
But you can probably do damn near the entire stack on leg curls (not being a dick by any means)..right? If you can't do a single rep on GH raise it's usually one of two things 1. you're doing the movement improperly (there are a couple of ways to do this) and 2. You have a weak link in your posterior chain.
We're not designed to move in isolation (single joint) but rather in multi-joint and in multi-plains. If you're pulling a 500 deadlift chances are you're pulling with your hips and back which usually means you're not recruiting your hamstrings making it more hip dominant than knee dominant. Make sense?
When you have a weak link in your posterior chain (hamstrings, glutes, low back) it can create all kinds of problems, injury speaking not to mention doing a relatively simple bodyweight exercise such as GH raise. Your weak link is your hamstrings and should be worked simultaneously with glutes and low back.
The difference between RDL and 1RDL's is bi-lateral and uni-lateral (or open chain and closed chain) I prefer 1RDL's simply to balance strengths from one leg to the other. Since we don't walk two legs at a time (unless you hop everywhere) it only makes sense.
If you bodybuild and do isolation make sure you pair it with something thats multi-joint eg: Leg extensions/Single leg squat, leg curls/GH raise or 1RDL.
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Reverse Hypers fixed my fucked up back bigtime....not 100% but much better.
We have a nice plate loaded unit at my gym.
Highly recommended exercise if you have back isues or not.
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Coach, most gyms do not have a glute-ham.
When I get enough dough, I will be adding one to my basement, but don't you think if one is squatting/deadlifting/doing 45 degree hypers seriously and consistently, that their hamstrings will be strong???
I've used a glute-ham, and needed to be taught which muscles to recruit (including pushing off with your toes a bit against the plate), and then it all made sense.
But, I don't think a glute ham is essential to overall knee health.
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Coach, most gyms do not have a glute-ham.
When I get enough dough, I will be adding one to my basement, but don't you think if one is squatting/deadlifting/doing 45 degree hypers seriously and consistently, that their hamstrings will be strong???
I've used a glute-ham, and needed to be taught which muscles to recruit (including pushing off with your toes a bit against the plate), and then it all made sense.
But, I don't think a glute ham is essential to overall knee health.
To be clear, I never intended to mean that GH raise were essential for overall knee health but rather a strong posterior chain. As far as DL and squats being enough for strong hamstrings, not IMO. It's true the deeper you go the more hamstring recruitment there is but as far as I'm concerned you lose it at the top of the lift. The problem is most people who follow this philosophy are quad dominant and thats usually where problems are.
You're right, you probably won't find one in a commercial gym but you can do the RDL's and variations.
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The Coach whats your take on De Franco, Tate, and Ripptoe?
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To be clear, I never intended to mean that GH raise were essential for overall knee health but rather a strong posterior chain. As far as DL and squats being enough for strong hamstrings, not IMO. It's true the deeper you go the more hamstring recruitment there is but as far as I'm concerned you lose it at the top of the lift. The problem is most people who follow this philosophy are quad dominant and thats usually where problems are.
Coach, one thing that I don't like in the S&C community that has arisen in the last 15 years are terms like "quad dominant". For many many years there was only squats, hyperextensions, leg curls and leg extensions for overall hip/leg development, and you know what? Some of the most versatile, not overly fat, impressive lifters came from that era. There was no such thing as a glute ham raise 30 years ago, and they were not found in Division I strength rooms 20 years ago, or even when I graduated in '98.
I have never seen an athlete who was hamstring dominant, to be honest. Whether their sport was cycling, tennis, football, baseball, field hockey, etc.
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The Coach whats your take on De Franco, Tate, and Ripptoe?
All great trainers but Tate is more business than anything now. Defranco has been gimmicky with some of the circus tricks he's been doing. I've met him several times. Awesome gym tho.
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All great trainers but Tate is more business than anything now.
is he still working with CF?
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Coach, one thing that I don't like in the S&C community that has arisen in the last 15 years are terms like "quad dominant". For many many years there was only squats, hyperextensions, leg curls and leg extensions for overall hip/leg development, and you know what? Some of the most versatile, not overly fat, impressive lifters came from that era. There was no such thing as a glute ham raise 30 years ago, and they were not found in Division I strength rooms 20 years ago, or even when I graduated in '98.
I have never seen an athlete who was hamstring dominant, to be honest. Whether their sport was cycling, tennis, football, baseball, field hockey, etc.
That was 30 years ago this is now. It used to be that most training was bodybuilding driven but they still had the main lifts. Today, it's almost just the opposite. Bodybuilding is now starting to incorporate "functional" exercises in their programs. People have taken notice of what the S&C community has done in the way of research. To the best of my knowledge bodybuilding training hasn't changed all that much at least in the 37 years I've been involved.
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is he still working with CF?
Who? Rippetoe or Tate?
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That was 30 years ago this is now. It used to be that most training was bodybuilding driven but they still had the main lifts. Today, it's almost just the opposite. Bodybuilding is now starting to incorporate "functional" exercises in their programs. People have taken notice of what the S&C community has done in the way of research. To the best of my knowledge bodybuilding training hasn't changed all that much at least in the 37 years I've been involved.
I just can`t get into all that stuff......I guess I`m to old school to start using rubber bands and wobble boards and bosu balls and shit like that.
I don`t think Arnold used them! :)
Sorry Joe,you`re a great guy,great bodybuilder,and great trainer,but I can`t get my head wrapped around this new shit.
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I just can`t get into all that stuff......I guess I`m to old school to start using rubber bands and wobble boards and bosu balls and shit like that.
I don`t think Arnold used them! :)
Sorry Joe,you`re a great guy,great bodybuilder,and great trainer,but I can`t get my head wrapped around this new shit.
I hate wobble and bosu balls. Thats not what I meant by "functional".
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Who? Rippetoe or Tate?
tate i read rippetoe had a fallout
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But you can probably do damn near the entire stack on leg curls (not being a dick by any means)..right? If you can't do a single rep on GH raise it's usually one of two things 1. you're doing the movement improperly (there are a couple of ways to do this) and 2. You have a weak link in your posterior chain.
We're not designed to move in isolation (single joint) but rather in multi-joint and in multi-plains. If you're pulling a 500 deadlift chances are you're pulling with your hips and back which usually means you're not recruiting your hamstrings making it more hip dominant than knee dominant. Make sense?
When you have a weak link in your posterior chain (hamstrings, glutes, low back) it can create all kinds of problems, injury speaking not to mention doing a relatively simple bodyweight exercise such as GH raise. Your weak link is your hamstrings and should be worked simultaneously with glutes and low back.
The difference between RDL and 1RDL's is bi-lateral and uni-lateral (or open chain and closed chain) I prefer 1RDL's simply to balance strengths from one leg to the other. Since we don't walk two legs at a time (unless you hop everywhere) it only makes sense.
If you bodybuild and do isolation make sure you pair it with something thats multi-joint eg: Leg extensions/Single leg squat, leg curls/GH raise or 1RDL.
yep its the old Louie Simmons theory on why a lift stalls, because of a weak muscle group.
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I hate wobble and bosu balls. Thats not what I meant by "functional".
OK,then I still like you! ;D
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To be clear, I never intended to mean that GH raise were essential for overall knee health but rather a strong posterior chain. As far as DL and squats being enough for strong hamstrings, not IMO. It's true the deeper you go the more hamstring recruitment there is but as far as I'm concerned you lose it at the top of the lift. The problem is most people who follow this philosophy are quad dominant and thats usually where problems are.
You're right, you probably won't find one in a commercial gym but you can do the RDL's and variations.
I agree it's a great piece of equipment for athletes..developed by the soviet union actually
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its very telling how almost 100 percent of commercial gyms dont have a GHR machine but almost every sports team gym whether its high school, college or pro has at least 5 of them, GHR and reverse hyper are two of the greatest most beneficial machines ever made.
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its very telling how almost 100 percent of commercial gyms dont have a GHR machine but almost every sports team gym whether its high school, college or pro has at least 5 of them, GHR and reverse hyper are two of the greatest most beneficial machines ever made.
always like that.
in a sports team gym you'll find more stability balls, kettle-bells, elastics, etc.
the average gym won't carry that. I can't remember the last time someone complained at my gym
for not finding the GHR machine. not sayings its not a good machine, but shit that ppl wont use,
is not worth buying.
Kettle Bells are starting to become a common thing tho. ppl aren't too savvy on all the types of machines out there...
it's hard enough for them to remember to re-rack weights and bring a towel... :-\
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always like that.
in a sports team gym you'll find more stability balls, kettle-bells, elastics, etc.
the average gym won't carry that. I can't remember the last time someone complained at my gym
for not finding the GHR machine. not sayings its not a good machine, but shit that ppl wont use,
is not worth buying.
Kettle Bells are starting to become a common thing tho. ppl aren't too savvy on all the types of machines out there...
it's hard enough for them to remember to re-rack weights and bring a towel... :-\
problem is most gym staff these days are lazy, they sign people up and then give them free reigh of the gym without showing them how to lift, how to use machines, how to rack weights, how to manuever dumbbells, gym etiquette, etc., all they care about is the $$$$$.
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Dave`s right,we have two GHR and a great reverses hyper machine..............I train on St. Lawrence U campus.......only gym in town.
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must have missed him at my gym (Red's)....oh well
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Dave`s right,we have two GHR and a great reverses hyper machine..............I train on St. Lawrence U campus.......only gym in town.
our local high school gym has 5 GHRs and 2 reverse hypers, also 10 power racks and 2 deadlift platforms.
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always like that.
in a sports team gym you'll find more stability balls, kettle-bells, elastics, etc.
the average gym won't carry that. I can't remember the last time someone complained at my gym
for not finding the GHR machine. not sayings its not a good machine, but shit that ppl wont use,
is not worth buying.
Kettle Bells are starting to become a common thing tho. ppl aren't too savvy on all the types of machines out there...
it's hard enough for them to remember to re-rack weights and bring a towel... :-\
The problem is the general public and regular fitness trainers wouldn't know what it was let alone know how to use it. This is also the reason why smaller gyms with good trainers that have knowledge of this equipment make more money per sq ft than the average commercial gym and their clients get better results.
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our local high school gym has 5 GHRs and 2 reverse hypers, also 10 power racks and 2 deadlift platforms.
Thats awesome for a high school. The mid-west takes pride in their sports and athletes. I have to fight to get a fucking medicine ball at our school. The other school I coach at is a public school and when I put in a requisition for anything It takes weeks or over a month to even get a response and the answer is usually "no" >:(
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Thats awesome for a high school. The mid-west takes pride in their sports and athletes. I have to fight to get a fucking medicine ball at our school. The other school I coach at is a public school and when I put in a requisition for anything It takes weeks or over a month to even get a response and the answer is usually "no" >:(
yeah its pretty impressive especially these days when HS kids are encouraged to be little twinks in skinny jeans and girl belts, theyve even got the old school "400 club", "500 club", etc. lists on the walls, good stuff.
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If I recall correctly, Arthur Jones did quite well training the Deland, Fla. high school on Nautilus machines for the majority of their training. Apparently, the Deland high school had one heck of a powerlifting team.
Coach, I'm not saying you are wrong about identifying/addressing weak links in an athlete's body, but terms like "quad dominant" and "posterior chain" are just terms that have been coined in order to convince the population that S&C coaches are smarter than they are. I've been to many a seminar with alleged top quality S&C coaches, and believe me, these aren't exactly Mensa meetings.
More like a bunch of chubby guys with goatees who were frustrated bodybuilders. Ragging on bodybuilding type training, being lean, etc.
Now, Dr. Ken Leistner is a wealth of knowledge, and I don't recall ever seeing him train a guy on a GHR. Go pull some anchor chain (one in each hand) and tell me that your hamstrings aren't going to be completely fried/worked from top to bottom. That is what I call "functional" training.
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If I recall correctly, Arthur Jones did quite well training the Deland, Fla. high school on Nautilus machines for the majority of their training. Apparently, the Deland high school had one heck of a powerlifting team.
Coach, I'm not saying you are wrong about identifying/addressing weak links in an athlete's body, but terms like "quad dominant" and "posterior chain" are just terms that have been coined in order to convince the population that S&C coaches are smarter than they are. I've been to many a seminar with alleged top quality S&C coaches, and believe me, these aren't exactly Mensa meetings.
More like a bunch of chubby guys with goatees who were frustrated bodybuilders. Ragging on bodybuilding type training, being lean, etc.
Now, Dr. Ken Leistner is a wealth of knowledge, and I don't recall ever seeing him train a guy on a GHR. Go pull some anchor chain (one in each hand) and tell me that your hamstrings aren't going to be completely fried/worked from top to bottom. That is what I call "functional" training.
We drag heavy (4-5 plates) sleds with 2" rope for 20-40 yards at a time.
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We're not designed to move in isolation (single joint) but rather in multi-joint and in multi-plains. If you're pulling a 500 deadlift chances are you're pulling with your hips and back which usually means you're not recruiting your hamstrings making it more hip dominant than knee dominant. Make sense?
Not to me. Do you mean he's pulling the deadlift with "hips and back" or the GH raise? If the former, how else are you supposed to pull it? How can a deadlift be "knee dominant"? Your knee joint barely articulates... and what do you mean "pulling with your back"? Aren't back muscles mostly locked in isometric contraction during a deadlift? It's mainly a hip exercise, and your hamstrings extend the hips as well as flexing the knees.
Maybe you aren't implying he's somehow deadlifting wrong, or that there's some other way to deadlift, but this is how this reads to me...
When you have a weak link in your posterior chain (hamstrings, glutes, low back) it can create all kinds of problems, injury speaking not to mention doing a relatively simple bodyweight exercise such as GH raise. Your weak link is your hamstrings and should be worked simultaneously with glutes and low back.
I can agree this is probably true... however the reason he can't do a GH raise seems obvious to me, yet this quote isn't very clear. Hamstrings have two functions, extending the hips and flexing the knees. In a deadlift, they extend the hips. In a GH raise, they flex the knees.
So yes he needs to strengthen hamstrings, but not indiscriminately. Romanian deadlifts, squat, reverse hyper, and regular deadlifts are all hamstrings exercises, and all "work simultaneously with glutes and low back," but they emphasize the hip extension aspect, not the knee flexion aspect, so I don't think they will help.
If anything leg curls SHOULD help, but if he wants to get better at the glute ham raise, he should just do the glute ham raise... this will really work the knee-flexion capacity of his hamstrings.
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Train the GHR in a fashion promoted by none other than Arthur Jones (a name that hates to be mentioned by the Louie lovers of the world, despite their use of chains, which, alas Arthur Jones advocated): NEGATIVE ONLY.
When you can do about 6 reps lowering in 6-8 seconds each, you will be able to do at least 3 perfect GHR's.
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If I recall correctly, Arthur Jones did quite well training the Deland, Fla. high school on Nautilus machines for the majority of their training. Apparently, the Deland high school had one heck of a powerlifting team.
Coach, I'm not saying you are wrong about identifying/addressing weak links in an athlete's body, but terms like "quad dominant" and "posterior chain" are just terms that have been coined in order to convince the population that S&C coaches are smarter than they are. I've been to many a seminar with alleged top quality S&C coaches, and believe me, these aren't exactly Mensa meetings.
More like a bunch of chubby guys with goatees who were frustrated bodybuilders. Ragging on bodybuilding type training, being lean, etc.
Now, Dr. Ken Leistner is a wealth of knowledge, and I don't recall ever seeing him train a guy on a GHR. Go pull some anchor chain (one in each hand) and tell me that your hamstrings aren't going to be completely fried/worked from top to bottom. That is what I call "functional" training.
Good post. All this talk about muscle imbalances rarely helps anything... my brother has been telling me I'm "quad dominant" for years... what can I do about it? I would exercise hamstrings as much as any other muscle, they were always sore, and quite strong.
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Good post. All this talk about muscle imbalances rarely helps anything... my brother has been telling me I'm "quad dominant" for years... what can I do about it? I would exercise hamstrings as much as any other muscle, the were always sore, and quite strong.
Thanks, Cephissus.
I am a former Division I athlete who worked his ass off, because I had gotten a very late start in my respective sport, and got to where I was because I was a very good athlete first, before I was a good player at my sport (tennis).
However, I am convinced that damned near any program would work for a lot of top level athletes, if the program were actually followed with some level of committment/drive. I was surprised as hell when I interned in a Div. I strength room at how lazy some of the very best athletes are. They don't put the required effort into their routine AT ALL. Yet, they still advance because they are the genetic elite.
Now, when you take a genetic elite end of the bell curve individual, you get crazy results when they bust their ass at the program.
Look at a school like Butler. Tiny school. Tough as nails basketball team. I guarantee you their S&C room looks NOTHING like the video we saw from University of Texas. Yet their squad gets results, and I have not heard of their athletes getting inujured time and again.
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Another great post.
I think a lot of people go way off the deep end with the "strength and conditioning" stuff. Being at the top is mostly a matter of breeding (ie genetics), not training. A lot of sad people who can't accept this and think they can make up for the deficiencies they've received FROM BIRTH through "hard work."
I would laugh but it really is sad...
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Another great post.
I think a lot of people go way off the deep end with the "strength and conditioning" stuff. Being at the top is mostly a matter of breeding (ie genetics), not training. A lot of sad people who can't accept this and think they can make up for the deficiencies they've received FROM BIRTH through "hard work."
I would laugh but it really is sad...
The other thing is that the word "great" is used far too often. I was certainly above average/very good for both strength and athleticism (probably more for strength, as I never saw another tennis player deadlift 500). However, it is only when you get to see the true genetic elite (either in the weight room or on your respective field) that you realize that it simply doesn't matter how much hard work you put it, you won't be the cream of the crop.
That does not mean that you shouldn't bust your ass in the gym and out, because a stronger/fitter athlete is always better than one who isn't, but you have to set realistic goals, and put the Rocky montage where it belongs, in the fucking movies.
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You both make good arguments but in todays strength and conditioning its not all about "strength and conditioning". It's also about injury prevention for the athlete and creating programs that are effective while reducing the risk of injury. In that sense s&c is light years from what it used to be and the new benches and exercises that you see in a college setting are just for that.......to be able to create power and strength, reducing the risk of injury and transferring that onto field or court.
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You both make good arguments but in todays strength and conditioning its not all about "strength and conditioning". It's also about injury prevention for the athlete and creating programs that are effective while reducing the risk of injury. In that sense s&c is light years from what it used to be and the new benches and exercises that you see in a college setting are just for that.......to be able to create power and strength, reducing the risk of injury and transferring that onto field or court.
Coach, no offense, but it has always been the Strength and Conditioning coach's job to get their athletes 1) stronger, 2) more fit, and 3) less prone to injury. Ken Mannie (of MSU fame) once said something to the effect (and I'm paraphrasing here): "If you hurt your athlete in the gym, you are committing malpractice. You are missing the entire point of what your job is, and that is at the same time to make your athlete stronger, and to prevent injury."
Here is an example: Would I have athletes's squat? Of course. Would I have them attempt limit weights? No. Hell, I wouldn't even have them use a barbell. I'd have them use a safety squat bar, so as not to place their shoulders in external rotation. I've seen guys subluxate their shoulders doing barbell squats. I wouldn't neglect an athlete's external rotation either, as pec stretches and external rotation would be de riguer.
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And I understand that. Point being is that strength training has evolved and continues to all the time. With an athlete you're not going to see a leg curl in at most universities but you will see something thats more effective that lessens the risk of injury. Out of the 4 big universities that went to I cannot say I saw one. And of course there's a reason for that.
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Groink > Cena
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Groink > Cena
when Groink does push ups he doesnt push his body up he pushes the earth down.
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BTW SS, no offence taken what so ever. I like talking about things like this with like minded people. I learn from it.
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when Groink does push ups he doesnt push his body up he pushes the earth down.
Groink drives an ice cream truck covered in human skulls.
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Groink drives an ice cream truck covered in human skulls.
Groink once gave every girl in a strip club prolapsed vaginas in the same night.
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Groink once gave every girl in a strip club prolapsed vaginas in the same night.
Ghosts sit around campfires and tell Groink stories.
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Ghosts sit around campfires and tell Groink stories.
John Wayne used to go to Groink for tips on being a man.
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the lone ranger almost took groink instead of tonto as his partner.
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is your dong still broken ?
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« on: November 23, 2006, 07:43:42 PM »
Quote from: sevastase on November 22, 2006, 05:37:30 AM
hi gh15...i know you got tons of stuff to do and everybody pm's you so i hope u get the time to look at this and let me know what u think...i know u don't answer pm...so if u want me to post it on the forum i can do so....i'm 5'10" 190lbs...just got back to lifting after a layoff ...been off aas for 4 months now...i find my sex drive low...way too low...i think it's emotional with the girl i'm with...i used cialis...and still not much...i tried viagra 100 and that's for sure the real shit but here in romania it's way too expensive...now i never had this problem before , i did have a really high sex drive...i'm 30...and for more info or how i look i have a thread on pic's of members , my name is sevastase...just look mit up on the board and you'll find the thread. I read your post about test and sex drive and it clicked so i shot 2cc of sustanon and i can't get any for about 2 months....can i continue with enthanate?...500mg that is...until i get more sust.?...also i wanna hear your thoughts on the erection issue...viagra ...test ...if it's related to erection or just sex drive...and whatever you think i fucking need to do because i'm 30...in love and the last thing i need now is a limp dick! I apreciate u taking the time and hope u find some advice for me...cheers.
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cialis should work fine,,so id follow what grant suggested.
about the test thing,,yes you can change,,i always prefer one ester over combo of esters,,simply because blood levels will be easier to keep stable.
when ever i do sust or omna i inject an amp/day,,,,when ever i inject one long ester test i inject it twice a week which make it a lot easier and a lot more time effective.
romania is known for fakes when it comes to amps so make sure you got the real deal,,,if you inject 750 mg of test and still cant get it on to f**k a hot (or ugly Wink) chic,,,,then try to use less anti estrogens,,people count too much on anti estrogens and it fucks up their sex life because estrogen is important too,,
also if this dont work get in some proviron,,,proviron will make the softest noodle hard and functionable,,,infact proviron is better than viagra and cialis in my opinion,,but this is my opinion.
if none of the above help,,,then the problem is in the head or is more serious and needed medical attention from a doc.
LMAO! ;D
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BTW SS, no offence taken what so ever. I like talking about things like this with like minded people. I learn from it.
Shows you are a level headed guy when you can discuss matters with folks who have a different viewpoint.
However, I think that far too many universities have jumped on the WSB bandwagon, and no offense meant to Louie, as he has trained a large number of Elite "equipped" lifters, but I don't see many of his tools applying to the collegiate athlete. Wide stance squats, heavy good mornings, board presses etc. have little place in the athlete's bag of tricks. However, band tension, chains, and assistance lifts are a great thing, but not pushed to the limits that a competitive powerlifter does, as the competition for them is the LIFT, not the athletic field.
Further, WSB continues to evolve, and we have seen a shift to more bodybuilding style training. So, everything that is old is new again.
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These two week certication to be a trainer from the internet makes the holder of these certificates think they are scientist. The do use a lot of buzz words and phrases to make things sound scientific. Is this to make people think they are scientist in exercise physiology?
One friend was studing how to calibrate a treadmill with math formulas on his personal trainer course. Unless you are an engineer designing and building one why do you need to calibrate a treadmill?
Gyms use these certificates to lower their liability insurance. A lot of these big certificate companies started in the bedroom on the computer of some 20 sometime kid.
On "reputable" text book on personal training that goes for almost $100 bucks is written by several phd's in exercise physiology. They have their pictures in the book and they all look out of shape and pudgy. The book is filled with mathmatic formulas that have no rhyme or reason why they are necessary to qualify a person to be a personal trainer but I bet it looks good to a jury in a law suit.