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Oh great. Our image in the Muslim world was picture perfect during the Obama presidency. Now it's permanently tainted. Thanks Barry.
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are you for or against urinating on dead Taliban fighters ?
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That depends. Are you a Taliban fighter?
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That depends. Are you a Taliban fighter?
nope
are you?
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I'm all for pissing on these dirtbags , just don't get caught.
We've created enough terrorists already.
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Urinated We Stand
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Oh great. Our image in the Muslim world was picture perfect during the Obama presidency. Now it's permanently tainted. Thanks Barry.
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Obama deserves the blame for a lot of shit but how in the hell are you pinning this on him? Under Bush the torture shit at least went back to Rumsfeld for sure. Are you saying orders to piss on these guys came down from high up lol?
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Obama deserves the blame for a lot of shit but how in the hell are you pinning this on him? Under Bush the torture shit at least went back to Rumsfeld for sure. Are you saying orders to piss on these guys came down from high up lol?
No president can't micro-manage a nation....especially a squad of soldiers. What they did was deplorable and brings great dishonor to the U.S Marine code. Shame on them for doing such a disgusting thing as pissing on a dead person.
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I don't really give a rat's ass about those guys getting pissed on. I'd like to hear the genius behind who uploaded the video to the net and if there's another story behind that.
I also don't get how GW blames this on Obama.
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I don't really give a rat's ass about those guys getting pissed on. I'd like to hear the genius behind who uploaded the video to the net and if there's another story behind that.
I also don't get how GW blames this on Obama.
I dont think he was. I think his point was to make an absurd post to remind the twats who blamed Bush for every little thing like that of the same thing.
I have no problem with this, only that the video was made public.
Personally - I would have preferred that they be doused with pigs blood and then fed to hogs.
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I dont think he was. I think his point was to make an absurd post to remind the twats who blamed Bush for every little thing like that of the same thing.
Ah, people started pointing fingers at the Bush admin when stuff started coming out connecting Rumsfeld to the abu ghraib torture stuff. There's nothing like that here unless I missed it.
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Obama deserves the blame for a lot of shit but how in the hell are you pinning this on him? Under Bush the torture shit at least went back to Rumsfeld for sure. Are you saying orders to piss on these guys came down from high up lol?
I think he was being sarcastic. Our standing in the Muslim world, as if we should give a fuck, is even lower under The Usurper's watch.
I couldn't care less about them relieving themselves in a place where some dead Taliban happened to catch a golden shower but videotaping it was pretty foolish.
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Oh great. Our image in the Muslim world was picture perfect during the Obama presidency. Now it's permanently tainted. Thanks Barry.
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oh brother...you're reaching again as usual..Obama has nothing to do with this and you are the ONLY person I have seen who has tried to link him to this..WOW....when are you going to become intelligent?
by the way fuck those dead Taliban.....I love that our soldiers urinated on them
Hey George...can I piss on you as well???
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oh brother...you're reaching again as usual..Obama has nothing to do with this and you are the ONLY person I have seen who has tried to link him to this..WOW....when are you going to become intelligent?
by the way fuck those dead Taliban.....I love that our soldiers urinated on them
Hey George...can I piss on you as well???
From what I gather, you're into getting pissed on. You might think it kinky. I just think it's gay. :)
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From what I gather, you're into getting pissed on. You might think it kinky. I just think it's gay. :)
to quote an immortal bodybuilder.....it's only gay if you want it to be...and I guess you WANT it to be ::)
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It is poetic justice ( no andre, not the movie starring Tupac) that only the two conservatives who posted in this thread understood my point perfectly. One or two libertarians also got the message.
The rest of you are great for comic relief.
Thanks!
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I don't really give a rat's ass about those guys getting pissed on. I'd like to hear the genius behind who uploaded the video to the net and if there's another story behind that.
This ^^^
Put the video cameras down gents...
From what I gather, you're into getting pissed on. You might think it kinky. I just think it's gay. :)
lol
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Its bad.....doesn't help etc...undisciplined and unneccesary. Ok that said, whatever! They had just killed these guys..whats worse? Oddly while Karzi was whining about how this was hurting the peace process, the Taliban are shaking it off and forging ahead...because they know Barry is on the run and wants to leave. They know all about the elections...I wouldn't be surprised if they took a break next fall. In any event I'm headed over in less then 4 months and I'll tell you all about it from there.
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I should have posted this...he said it much better.
Rep. Allen West (R-Fla.), a former Army lieutenant colonel, sends THE WEEKLY STANDARD an email commenting on the Marines' video, and has given us permission to publish it.
“I have sat back and assessed the incident with the video of our Marines urinating on Taliban corpses. I do not recall any self-righteous indignation when our Delta snipers Shugart and Gordon had their bodies dragged through Mogadishu. Neither do I recall media outrage and condemnation of our Blackwater security contractors being killed, their bodies burned, and hung from a bridge in Fallujah.
“All these over-emotional pundits and armchair quarterbacks need to chill. Does anyone remember the two Soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division who were beheaded and gutted in Iraq?
“The Marines were wrong. Give them a maximum punishment under field grade level Article 15 (non-judicial punishment), place a General Officer level letter of reprimand in their personnel file, and have them in full dress uniform stand before their Battalion, each personally apologize to God, Country, and Corps videotaped and conclude by singing the full US Marine Corps Hymn without a teleprompter.
“As for everyone else, unless you have been shot at by the Taliban, shut your mouth, war is hell.”
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I should have posted this...he said it much better.
Rep. Allen West (R-Fla.), a former Army lieutenant colonel, sends THE WEEKLY STANDARD an email commenting on the Marines' video, and has given us permission to publish it.
“I have sat back and assessed the incident with the video of our Marines urinating on Taliban corpses. I do not recall any self-righteous indignation when our Delta snipers Shugart and Gordon had their bodies dragged through Mogadishu. Neither do I recall media outrage and condemnation of our Blackwater security contractors being killed, their bodies burned, and hung from a bridge in Fallujah.
“All these over-emotional pundits and armchair quarterbacks need to chill. Does anyone remember the two Soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division who were beheaded and gutted in Iraq?
“The Marines were wrong. Give them a maximum punishment under field grade level Article 15 (non-judicial punishment), place a General Officer level letter of reprimand in their personnel file, and have them in full dress uniform stand before their Battalion, each personally apologize to God, Country, and Corps videotaped and conclude by singing the full US Marine Corps Hymn without a teleprompter.
“As for everyone else, unless you have been shot at by the Taliban, shut your mouth, war is hell.”
Yes, well said.
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Personally I think it should be a standard practice preferably right before we shoot them.
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...The Corps got no choice, these guys' will get hammered.
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That's too bad. PR PC BS
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Its bad.....doesn't help etc...undisciplined and unneccesary. Ok that said, whatever! They had just killed these guys..whats worse? Oddly while Karzi was whining about how this was hurting the peace process, the Taliban are shaking it off and forging ahead...because they know Barry is on the run and wants to leave. They know all about the elections...I wouldn't be surprised if they took a break next fall. In any event I'm headed over in less then 4 months and I'll tell you all about it from there.
Barry's not on the run as you put it...we've thrown everything at the Taliban and they just keep coming no matter how many we kill....Obama is smart to get us the hell out of there....we've done all we can....no sense letting our boys keep getting killed ...we are not going to win..at least not in the way we want to....better to pack it up and go home...I guarantee you that Karzai will be the first guy out of Afghanistan once we leave
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That depends. Are you a Taliban fighter?
LOL! ;D
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Barry's not on the run as you put it...we've thrown everything at the Taliban and they just keep coming no matter how many we kill....Obama is smart to get us the hell out of there
I'm guessing every GOP candidate except ron paul disagrees with you
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I should have posted this...he said it much better.
Rep. Allen West (R-Fla.), a former Army lieutenant colonel, sends THE WEEKLY STANDARD an email commenting on the Marines' video, and has given us permission to publish it.
“I have sat back and assessed the incident with the video of our Marines urinating on Taliban corpses. I do not recall any self-righteous indignation when our Delta snipers Shugart and Gordon had their bodies dragged through Mogadishu. Neither do I recall media outrage and condemnation of our Blackwater security contractors being killed, their bodies burned, and hung from a bridge in Fallujah.
“All these over-emotional pundits and armchair quarterbacks need to chill. Does anyone remember the two Soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division who were beheaded and gutted in Iraq?
“The Marines were wrong. Give them a maximum punishment under field grade level Article 15 (non-judicial punishment), place a General Officer level letter of reprimand in their personnel file, and have them in full dress uniform stand before their Battalion, each personally apologize to God, Country, and Corps videotaped and conclude by singing the full US Marine Corps Hymn without a teleprompter.
“As for everyone else, unless you have been shot at by the Taliban, shut your mouth, war is hell.”
And this coming from someone who did this.... ::)
While serving in Taji, Iraq, West received information from an intelligence specialist about a reported plot to ambush him and his men.[6] The alleged plot reportedly involved Yahya Jhodri Hamoodi, a civilian Iraqi police officer.[6] West, who was not responsible for conducting interrogations in Iraq and had never conducted nor witnessed one, had his men detain Hamoodi.[6] In the process of detaining Mr. Hamoodi, soldiers testified that Hamoodi appeared to reach for his weapon and needed to be subdued.[6] Hamoodi was beaten by four soldiers from the 220th Field Artillery Battalion on the head and body.[10] West then fired his pistol near Hamoodi's head,[6] after which Hamoodi provided West with names and information, which Hamoodi later described as "meaningless information induced by fear and pain."[6] At least one of these suspects was arrested as a result, but no plans for attacks or weapons were found.[6] West said "At the time I had to base my decision on the intelligence I received. It's possible that I was wrong about Mr. Hamoodi."[6]
West was charged with violating articles 128 (assault) and 134 (general article) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. During a hearing held as part of an Article 32 investigation in November 2003, West stated, "I know the method I used was not right, but I wanted to take care of my soldiers."[10] The charges were ultimately referred to an Article 15 proceeding rather than court-martial, at which West was fined $5,000.[6] LTC West accepted the judgment and retired with full benefits in the summer of 2004. Asked if he would act differently under similar circumstances again, West testified, "If it's about the lives of my soldiers at stake, I'd go through hell with a gasoline can."[11] After Lieutenant Colonel West was relieved of his command, an interpreter employed by a private contractor said that without his presence the region he previously oversaw "became more dangerous and chaotic".[6]
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And this coming from someone who did this.... ::)
While serving in Taji, Iraq, West received information from an intelligence specialist about a reported plot to ambush him and his men.[6] The alleged plot reportedly involved Yahya Jhodri Hamoodi, a civilian Iraqi police officer.[6] West, who was not responsible for conducting interrogations in Iraq and had never conducted nor witnessed one, had his men detain Hamoodi.[6] In the process of detaining Mr. Hamoodi, soldiers testified that Hamoodi appeared to reach for his weapon and needed to be subdued.[6] Hamoodi was beaten by four soldiers from the 220th Field Artillery Battalion on the head and body.[10] West then fired his pistol near Hamoodi's head,[6] after which Hamoodi provided West with names and information, which Hamoodi later described as "meaningless information induced by fear and pain."[6] At least one of these suspects was arrested as a result, but no plans for attacks or weapons were found.[6] West said "At the time I had to base my decision on the intelligence I received. It's possible that I was wrong about Mr. Hamoodi."[6]
West was charged with violating articles 128 (assault) and 134 (general article) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. During a hearing held as part of an Article 32 investigation in November 2003, West stated, "I know the method I used was not right, but I wanted to take care of my soldiers."[10] The charges were ultimately referred to an Article 15 proceeding rather than court-martial, at which West was fined $5,000.[6] LTC West accepted the judgment and retired with full benefits in the summer of 2004. Asked if he would act differently under similar circumstances again, West testified, "If it's about the lives of my soldiers at stake, I'd go through hell with a gasoline can."[11] After Lieutenant Colonel West was relieved of his command, an interpreter employed by a private contractor said that without his presence the region he previously oversaw "became more dangerous and chaotic".[6]
Good. I completely agree with him.
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And this coming from someone who did this.... ::)
While serving in Taji, Iraq, West received information from an intelligence specialist about a reported plot to ambush him and his men.[6] The alleged plot reportedly involved Yahya Jhodri Hamoodi, a civilian Iraqi police officer.[6] West, who was not responsible for conducting interrogations in Iraq and had never conducted nor witnessed one, had his men detain Hamoodi.[6] In the process of detaining Mr. Hamoodi, soldiers testified that Hamoodi appeared to reach for his weapon and needed to be subdued.[6] Hamoodi was beaten by four soldiers from the 220th Field Artillery Battalion on the head and body.[10] West then fired his pistol near Hamoodi's head,[6] after which Hamoodi provided West with names and information, which Hamoodi later described as "meaningless information induced by fear and pain."[6] At least one of these suspects was arrested as a result, but no plans for attacks or weapons were found.[6] West said "At the time I had to base my decision on the intelligence I received. It's possible that I was wrong about Mr. Hamoodi."[6]
West was charged with violating articles 128 (assault) and 134 (general article) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. During a hearing held as part of an Article 32 investigation in November 2003, West stated, "I know the method I used was not right, but I wanted to take care of my soldiers."[10] The charges were ultimately referred to an Article 15 proceeding rather than court-martial, at which West was fined $5,000.[6] LTC West accepted the judgment and retired with full benefits in the summer of 2004. Asked if he would act differently under similar circumstances again, West testified, "If it's about the lives of my soldiers at stake, I'd go through hell with a gasoline can."[11] After Lieutenant Colonel West was relieved of his command, an interpreter employed by a private contractor said that without his presence the region he previously oversaw "became more dangerous and chaotic".[6]
Gimme a break..if West was a black Dem it would be a different story.....u lib douchbags...how many combat deployments do u have Vince.... ::)
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Gimme a break..if West was a black Dem it would be a different story.....u lib douchbags...how many combat deployments do u have Vince.... ::)
Another guy obsessed with black people ::)
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Gimme a break..if West was a black Dem it would be a different story.....u lib douchbags...how many combat deployments do u have Vince.... ::)
Wrong....I'm against any military personnel who decides to completely ignore the UCMC and since West was an officer, he definitely knows better. Using the excuse that "his men were in danger" is a load of crap because in combat, you are always in danger 24/7.
He took an Iraqi police officer who was on our side, had the shit beat out of him by 4 men, and clearly threated to kill him. Its no wonder that region had destabilized. Even he admitted that he was clearly wrong.
Behavior like that should never be tolerated...otherwise, we are no better than the terrorist.
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Im not familure with the UCMC...maybe UCMJ. West did what he needed to. The only reason he was allowed to retire was because the info he got from this douchbag actually allowed his guys to avoid an ambush. The rest of ur post is PC bullshit from a guy who's never been there.
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He should have pissed on him too.
War is hell.
Get over it, or don't get involved.
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Its bad.....doesn't help etc...undisciplined and unneccesary. Ok that said, whatever! They had just killed these guys..whats worse?
The fact that what they did hampers the United States military is what's worse...Usually at this point career military personnel recite...
"We are not instruments of public relations...we are not instruments of society..."
While it is true this is not written anywhere...De Facto...They are....
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He should have pissed on him too.
War is hell.
Get over it, or don't get involved.
Truth.
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Wrong....I'm against any military personnel who decides to completely ignore the UCMC and since West was an officer, he definitely knows better. Using the excuse that "his men were in danger" is a load of crap because in combat, you are always in danger 24/7.
He took an Iraqi police officer who was on our side, had the shit beat out of him by 4 men, and clearly threated to kill him. Its no wonder that region had destabilized. Even he admitted that he was clearly wrong.
Behavior like that should never be tolerated...otherwise, we are no better than the terrorist.
Oh please. Save your bullshit for your fellow morons on the left.
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The fact that what they did hampers the United States military is what's worse...Usually at this point career military personnel recite...
"We are not instruments of public relations...we are not instruments of society..."
While it is true this is not written anywhere...De Facto...They are....
No shit.......the press is blowing this out of proportion. It will all be forgotten shortly.
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No shit.......the press is blowing this out of proportion. It will all be forgotten shortly.
Excuse me...It wasn't any member of the press that did this...It was that patrol whose members are influenced by bizarre video games that did this...
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The fact that what they did hampers the United States military is what's worse...Usually at this point career military personnel recite...
"We are not instruments of public relations...we are not instruments of society..."
While it is true this is not written anywhere...De Facto...They are....
Sigh...upon rereading I realized my ellipsis may have confused some onlookers.
To clarify...While it is true that it isn't written anywhere that the United States Military are instruments of public relations or tools of social acceptance...De Facto...They indeed are instruments of public relations, and instruments of of social acceptance...